DT Posted 12 January, 2014 Share Posted 12 January, 2014 No we don't. But we should be looking at a GK that is an improvement on Boruc, (just as we 'upgraded' on Cork even though many last season - myself included- did not think this was a position to strengthen),not someone to sit on the bench. Fair point. I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wessex saint Posted 24 January, 2014 Share Posted 24 January, 2014 That classy paper The Mirror reporting that the mancs have bid 22.5m for him. Personally think if he goes anywhere it'll be Chelsea and hopefully not til the summer. Can't wait for this window to be over ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 24 January, 2014 Share Posted 24 January, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 24 January, 2014 Share Posted 24 January, 2014 Dear Mr Moyes. Down South things are more expensive than up North. That includes left backs. Hope that helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 24 January, 2014 Share Posted 24 January, 2014 Shaw will go to Chelsea. No point the others bidding when its so obvious. Equally obvious it will not be this window but the summer, especially now NC has gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 24 January, 2014 Share Posted 24 January, 2014 It's Shaw, Lovren and Wanyama I expect to want out most of all. Why? I don't expect any of them to "want out". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 24 January, 2014 Share Posted 24 January, 2014 Chelsea. In the summer. £27.5m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
student Posted 24 January, 2014 Share Posted 24 January, 2014 Selling Shaw wouldn't be that bad for you and I think it's actually reasonably likely. 1. Pochettino won't be too bothered, he is clearly going to leave at the end of the year and will give him a good chance to either walk out now or leave with a great reputation and blame someone else. 2. It's a position which can be replaced reasonably easily, you can easily get a LB of a similar level for half the money plus you have target coming through. 3. The chairwoman might want pochettino out and can save money by getting him to walk whilst also making some good cash. 4. It's probably paper bull**** and won't happen. 5. If Moyes will promise him the LB role, which seems to be the story, then it's an offer Shaw will have to take very seriously Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sussexsaint Posted 24 January, 2014 Share Posted 24 January, 2014 Selling Shaw wouldn't be that bad for you and I think it's actually reasonably likely. 1. Pochettino won't be too bothered, he is clearly going to leave at the end of the year and will give him a good chance to either walk out now or leave with a great reputation and blame someone else. 2. It's a position which can be replaced reasonably easily, you can easily get a LB of a similar level for half the money plus you have target coming through. 3. The chairwoman might want pochettino out and can save money by getting him to walk whilst also making some good cash. 4. It's probably paper bull**** and won't happen. 5. If Moyes will promise him the LB role, which seems to be the story, then it's an offer Shaw will have to take very seriously All above I'm afraid I disagree with quite strongly. Apart from 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandwichsaint Posted 24 January, 2014 Share Posted 24 January, 2014 Chelsea. In the summer. £27.5m. Big call - 'feeder club' v 'the project'. £££££££'s - money talks, always. (luckily we seem to have a conveyor belt of talent at Staplewood though the sale of any one of our top boys would absolutely weaken the whole edifice). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bewildered Posted 24 January, 2014 Share Posted 24 January, 2014 I think he'll wind up at Chelsea in the summer, and for more than 22m. Shaw is one of the hottest defensive talents in Europe and when the time comes to sell I would be shocked if there is only one club that tries to sign him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 24 January, 2014 Share Posted 24 January, 2014 What happened to the Citeh rumour of £30m folding all done and dusted no installations cash in a suitcase (£30m ain't going to fit in a briefcase). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CityRanger Posted 25 January, 2014 Share Posted 25 January, 2014 There's no better time to sell a young english left back than now. If you want to that is... Chelsea and Man U having over 30's in that position and Man City needing 'home grown' players means if we can hold out we'll get top, top money for Luke. Personally, I'll be very surprised if he's not a Chelsea player next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sussexsaint Posted 25 January, 2014 Share Posted 25 January, 2014 I hate the sense of entitlement united fans have, rather he went anywhere than there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 25 January, 2014 Share Posted 25 January, 2014 He would be better off going to Chelsea, Utd are in decline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 25 January, 2014 Share Posted 25 January, 2014 You can't say you're not selling anyone in January then sell your most valuable asset in January. . What if Man City offer £75mil, do we say "no we promised our fans we wont sell anyone"? Everybody has a price. Shaws price will be higher in Jan, but if clubs want to pay that premium and not wait till summer nobody, will turn that down, even Cortese. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le Tissier Posted 25 January, 2014 Share Posted 25 January, 2014 If moyes was any good he would be putting a 15 million bid in for lovren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 25 January, 2014 Share Posted 25 January, 2014 2. It's a position which can be replaced reasonably easily, you can easily get a LB of a similar level for half the money Is it? A pacey left back that is strong,good in the air, has a great touch, solid in defence and decent going forward isn't the easiest thing to find. If it was then why spend £30m on ours? This sort of thing is exactly what was said when Bridge was replaced by Le Saux. It was a terrible deal and one that saw us far far weaker after Wayne had gone. I seem to recall the same thing was said of Bale, "too much money to turn down and we can use that cash to strengthen the squad", but his sale took us from promotion candidates to relegation fodder. A left back can and currently does make our side tick. When Shaw is not in the side, we don't just concede more goals but we also struggle to create chances. I agree he is likely to leave, the kind of wages man city, united and Chelsea can offer would turn anyone's heads, but don't think for a second that all that cash will make it easy to replace him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 25 January, 2014 Share Posted 25 January, 2014 If moyes was any good he would be putting a 15 million bid in for lovren Me he would, but he is injured? Still can't quite work out why no one signed Morgan and shaw last summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SB Posted 25 January, 2014 Share Posted 25 January, 2014 Forget the open letter, if he wants to go he will, that's a good price although Chelsea would be the better option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Ash Posted 25 January, 2014 Share Posted 25 January, 2014 Is he really worth that much? If everyone takes off their rose tinted specs he's worth about 12m tops. 22m is a steal, can buy a striker and left back for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 25 January, 2014 Share Posted 25 January, 2014 Is he really worth that much? If everyone takes off their rose tinted specs he's worth about 12m tops. 22m is a steal, can buy a striker and left back for that. Rubbish. He is worth loads more than 12 million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 25 January, 2014 Share Posted 25 January, 2014 27.5m + Evra I would take right now. As long as the money is invested in the first team. Unfortunately, we would probably get Buttner or whatever his name is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 25 January, 2014 Share Posted 25 January, 2014 Is he really worth that much? If everyone takes off their rose tinted specs he's worth about 12m tops. 22m is a steal, can buy a striker and left back for that. At current market prices, yes he is worth that much. This is an 18 year old that already looks good enough to play at the very highest level. It will be a world record fee for a left back to get him IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 25 January, 2014 Share Posted 25 January, 2014 For me, whether or not we sell also depends on how good we think Targett could be. Those who have seen him, could he be up to Luke's level? We do seem to be able to produce a decent left back in recent years -Bridge, Bale (even though he doesn't plAy there now) & now Shaw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintoaks Posted 25 January, 2014 Share Posted 25 January, 2014 For me' date=' whether or not we sell also depends on how good we think Targett could be. Those who have seen him, could he be up to Luke's level? We do seem to be able to produce a decent left back in recent years -Bridge, Bale (even though he doesn't plAy there now) & now Shaw.[/quote'] I have seen the Matt Targett play numerous times and he will be saints left back in in a year or so. Saints highly rate him. He is where Luke Shaw was a year or so ago, just on the verges but not quite ready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintoaks Posted 25 January, 2014 Share Posted 25 January, 2014 Bloody iPads... Meant to say, have seen Matt play ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alain Perrin Posted 25 January, 2014 Share Posted 25 January, 2014 That's why I wouldn't have said it. Say we have no plans to sell, we don't want to etc fine but the way it's been phrased it will look silly, even if it is a great fee coming in.. But that's what they said: "We have also said that we have no plans to sell any of the squad during the January transfer window. Yesterday I met the rest of the staff and gave them the same message of support." Clearly plans change but it's the fans/press that regurgitate the quotes incorrectly, not the club. Sent from my RM-821_eu_euro1_276 using Board Express Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 25 January, 2014 Share Posted 25 January, 2014 Mmm, now let me think ..Have I heard this " rumour " before ? this thread started in March LAST YEAR......Can there really be any truth in it ? .....or .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 25 January, 2014 Share Posted 25 January, 2014 LOL Targett might be a good prospect but will never be as good as Shaw is now. Some fans seem to undervalue Shaw. He is awesome hence all the top PL clubs want to sign him. Whoever replaces him will be a lesser player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 25 January, 2014 Share Posted 25 January, 2014 LOL Targett might be a good prospect but will never be as good as Shaw is now. Some fans seem to undervalue Shaw. He is awesome hence all the top PL clubs want to sign him. Whoever replaces him will be a lesser player. Well, that's encouragement for the rest of the Academy players They might just as well throw themselves off the Itchen Bridge right now then ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 25 January, 2014 Share Posted 25 January, 2014 Well, that's encouragement for the rest of the Academy players They might just as well throw themselves off the Itchen Bridge right now then ?? No. Its just a fact. No shame in not being as good as Shaw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 25 January, 2014 Share Posted 25 January, 2014 Targett is nowhere near as good as Shaw. That's not to say he won't be a decent player but there's a big difference in ability between them. Would be silly to sell Shaw now. Wait until the summer when a bidding war will increase his price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 25 January, 2014 Share Posted 25 January, 2014 Me he would, but he is injured? Still can't quite work out why no one signed Morgan and shaw last summer. Cortese? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 25 January, 2014 Share Posted 25 January, 2014 Seeing how keen we are to promote young players, it is interesting that Targett has never really had a sniff in a first team game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanovski Posted 25 January, 2014 Share Posted 25 January, 2014 Friend of mine who worked with the saints first team for a year said target was as good as shaw at the time (2 years ago) and still thinks Hes held in high regard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 25 January, 2014 Share Posted 25 January, 2014 Friend of mine who worked with the saints first team for a year said target was as good as shaw at the time (2 years ago) and still thinks Hes held in high regard If that was true wouldn't he be replacing Fox on occasions or have been given a try in the C1C ? He's evidently not considered as good as Clyne at LB anyway so for a real LB that isn't exactly a glowing recommendation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 25 January, 2014 Share Posted 25 January, 2014 Seeing how keen we are to promote young players, it is interesting that Targett has never really had a sniff in a first team game. Especially as Fox is not highly regarded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick1976.4.38 Posted 25 January, 2014 Share Posted 25 January, 2014 if shaw,no,when shaw goes,how about shifting clyne to the left and chambers stays on the right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SO16_Saint Posted 25 January, 2014 Share Posted 25 January, 2014 Rumoured by some numpty feed on twitter that Man Utd are bidding for Shaw Sent from my GT-N5110 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 25 January, 2014 Share Posted 25 January, 2014 Some interesting opinions on Targett. I spoke to Doddsy just before the season started about our youth players and who they were excited about. He said Targett wasn't as good as shaw yet but was only a little bit behind ability wise. He said he will be there in a season or so. Cheers. Who else did he mention? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 26 January, 2014 Share Posted 26 January, 2014 Lukaku + cash for Shaw instead of straight cash. Chelsea really, really want him and it's no secret that it's where Shaw wants to end up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Posted 26 January, 2014 Share Posted 26 January, 2014 if shaw,no,when shaw goes,how about shifting clyne to the left and chambers stays on the right Clyne is so one footed that's not going to work - he has to play on the right Chambers of the two is probably a lot better on the left Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 26 January, 2014 Share Posted 26 January, 2014 Clyne is so one footed that's not going to work - he has to play on the right Chambers of the two is probably a lot better on the left This. When Clyne's played on the left he seems reluctant to even boot the ball away with his left. Would get found out and get us into trouble if he played there regularly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 26 January, 2014 Share Posted 26 January, 2014 None will be sold this window, but the summer will be the time that will show just how ambitious our owners are for pushing on to the next level or becoming a club who will be happy with mid table/bottom half relegation battles. I really do expect her to be looking for buyers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stepgar Posted 26 January, 2014 Share Posted 26 January, 2014 Lukaku + cash for Shaw instead of straight cash. Chelsea really, really want him and it's no secret that it's where Shaw wants to end up. Deffo take a slice of that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berkshiresaint Posted 26 January, 2014 Share Posted 26 January, 2014 None will be sold this window, but the summer will be the time that will show just how ambitious our owners are for pushing on to the next level or becoming a club who will be happy with mid table/bottom half relegation battles. I really do expect her to be looking for buyers! Just because we may sell a player for top money this does not mean the club has lost its ambition. Sell him for an extortionate amount then reinvest that money makes perfect business sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 26 January, 2014 Share Posted 26 January, 2014 Looks like the papers are going for the old approach of Shaw moving every single day, knowing once it will actually happen. Getting bored of it now. Shame these clubs havent produced any players of note from their own academies in the last 10 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 26 January, 2014 Share Posted 26 January, 2014 More paper talk about Chelsea renewing interest, inspired by Man U's bid of £22m and with end of Cole imminent. And again that Shaw prefers Chelsea. Hope he won't go before Summer but jungle drums beating Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stepgar Posted 26 January, 2014 Share Posted 26 January, 2014 What bugs more than anything is that he is English. I really don't think I would care half as much if he was any other nationalty. It really gripes to think that as soon as he leaves he will be called in to the full England squad and will develope even further and very one will rave about how good he is is playing for ........? Make sense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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