Glasgow_Saint Posted 19 March, 2013 Share Posted 19 March, 2013 Anyone missing? I wonder if Nigel would return for any of these (next season) if he gets Reading or Leeds job? Emmanuel Mayuka Frazer Richardson Guly do Prado Danny Butterfield Steve De Ridder Danny Fox Billy Sharp Dean Hammond Tadanari Lee Danny Seaborne Richard Chaplow Lee Barnard Ryan Dickson Tommy Forecast Jonathan Forte Aaron Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ant Posted 19 March, 2013 Share Posted 19 March, 2013 From that list I'd rather we keep Mayuka, Richardson, Guly, Fox and possibly Sharp until adequate replacements are acquired (even if only to act as squad players). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 19 March, 2013 Share Posted 19 March, 2013 two things that will determine this: a) what league we are in b) who we bring in Safe to say though that the majority of that list may end up going if we stay up as they aren't the players to push us up the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shirleysfc Posted 19 March, 2013 Share Posted 19 March, 2013 Release - Glasgow Saint - CB Fry Retain - Turkish - Hypochondriac - Bearsy - Tokyo Re-sign - Delldays Out on loan - Barry Sanchez - 110 Persaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 19 March, 2013 Share Posted 19 March, 2013 Release - Glasgow Saint - CB Fry Retain - Turkish - Hypochondriac - Bearsy - Tokyo Re-sign - Delldays Out on loan - Barry Sanchez - 110 Persaint Good news. I've been trying hard to get my contract extended, even given a reasonable assessment of ours and West Hams chances of staying up on the "remaining games" thread. Not wind ups for a while. Once i've signed the deal i can do a puncheon and revert to type. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shirleysfc Posted 19 March, 2013 Share Posted 19 March, 2013 Good news. I've been trying hard to get my contract extended, even given a reasonable assessment of ours and West Hams chances of staying up on the "remaining games" thread. Not wind ups for a while. Once i've signed the deal i can do a puncheon and revert to type. Anyone we can get on loan from UI? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 19 March, 2013 Share Posted 19 March, 2013 Please can we get rid of Billy Sharp. I really like the guy, but the endless talk of him coming back/playing in the Prem just does my head in. Struggling to get a look in at Forest now, yet people will still want him in the Prem. There must be a reason he has not been given a crack at it before. Both parties should just move on in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 19 March, 2013 Author Share Posted 19 March, 2013 Release - Glasgow Saint - CB Fry Retain - Turkish - Hypochondriac - Bearsy - Tokyo Re-sign - Delldays Out on loan - Barry Sanchez - 110 Persaint Delldays is like one of them average players at Saints that get better when they dont play/post Delldays is our Chaplow We need to add shirleysfc to the out on loan list due to yet another top contribution to a thread "who are you" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 19 March, 2013 Share Posted 19 March, 2013 Delldays is like one of them average players at Saints that get better when they dont play/post Delldays is our Chaplow We need to add shirleysfc to the out on loan list due to yet another top contribution to a thread "who are you" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrunkenSaint Posted 19 March, 2013 Share Posted 19 March, 2013 Anyone missing? I wonder if Nigel would return for any of these (next season) if he gets Reading or Leeds job? Emmanuel Mayuka Frazer Richardson Guly do Prado Danny Butterfield Steve De Ridder Danny Fox Billy Sharp Dean Hammond Tadanari Lee Danny Seaborne Richard Chaplow Lee Barnard Ryan Dickson Tommy Forecast Jonathan Forte Aaron Martin I'd keep Mayuka and that's about it from that lot, im sure MP has a lot of South American/Spanish players in mind to strengthen us but we need to get rid of that list first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 19 March, 2013 Share Posted 19 March, 2013 From that list I'd rather we keep Mayuka, Richardson, Guly, Fox and possibly Sharp until adequate replacements are acquired (even if only to act as squad players). Richardson cant get a game with Yoshida prefered at right back when Clyne has been unavailable. Our first XI is decent and if we can add strength in depth in the summer we can push on to be a midtable side next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 19 March, 2013 Share Posted 19 March, 2013 From that list I'd rather we keep Mayuka, Richardson, Guly, Fox and possibly Sharp until adequate replacements are acquired (even if only to act as squad players). (In Will Smith accent) "Awwwww HELL NO." The others I perhaps agree with, unless better reinforcements can be made, but I'd rather no back up left back than Fox. I'd rather play Jos or Forren at left back. Or Seaborne. Or my wife. Ok perhaps not her, but you get the gist. Even Harding would have been better back up than Fox. I loathe knocking a Saints player but Fox is not Premier League quality and never will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ant Posted 19 March, 2013 Share Posted 19 March, 2013 (edited) Richardson cant get a game with Yoshida prefered at right back when Clyne has been unavailable. Our first XI is decent and if we can add strength in depth in the summer we can push on to be a midtable side next year. Perhaps, but I still think Frazer's decent cover - especially if we end up short in central defence and need Yoshida there. By all means get rid if there's a viable replacement, but not before we source one! But yes, it's clear there's substantial improvement we can (and ought to) make to the overall quality of the squad if we want to step up. I'd rather no back up left back than Fox. [...] Even Harding would have been better back up than Fox. Twaddle. Why hasn't Seaborne been utilised at LB then? How did Fox keep Harding out of the starting XI for most of last season? Edited 19 March, 2013 by ant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 19 March, 2013 Share Posted 19 March, 2013 Twaddle. Why hasn't Seaborne been utilised at LB then? How did Fox keep Harding out of the starting XI for most of last season? Because we were in the Championship. Fox is better going forward but Harding was the better defender. Thank God we promoted Shaw when we did, he's been exceptional. A new left back much needed in the summer. The others I'd keep, but I think Sharp will probably be off anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 19 March, 2013 Author Share Posted 19 March, 2013 (edited) re-sale value? Emmanuel Mayuka £2m Frazer Richardson £250k Guly do Prado £free Danny Butterfield £Free Steve De Ridder £free Danny Fox £1m Billy Sharp £1.5m Dean Hammond £500k Tadanari Lee £500k Danny Seaborne £100k Richard Chaplow £free Lee Barnard £free Ryan Dickson £free Tommy Forecast £free Jonathan Forte £free Aaron Martin £100k Give or take 500k you have £6.5m worth for sale right there Edited 19 March, 2013 by Glasgow_Saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Mikey Posted 19 March, 2013 Share Posted 19 March, 2013 Twaddle. Why hasn't Seaborne been utilised at LB then? How did Fox keep Harding out of the starting XI for most of last season? I'd rather have Sam Fox (c.1984) at LB. Younger viewers can look those norks up on Google... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamesaint Posted 19 March, 2013 Share Posted 19 March, 2013 Whose contracts will expire in the summer? I know that Forecast's, Dickson's and Chaplow's will (fat chance of getting £100k for him). Would have thought that Seaborne and Forte are at the end of theirs. Doubt that Mayuka's or Lee's will expire. How about anyone else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowgli Posted 19 March, 2013 Share Posted 19 March, 2013 Please can we get rid of Billy Sharp. I really like the guy, but the endless talk of him coming back/playing in the Prem just does my head in. Struggling to get a look in at Forest now, yet people will still want him in the Prem. There must be a reason he has not been given a crack at it before. Both parties should just move on in my opinion. Exactly my thoughts. Was brought in to get us over the line and he repaid us in spades. But he needs to be playing regular football and he's not going to get that here (not Forest it seems). Could see hime ending up back at Sheffield United to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 19 March, 2013 Author Share Posted 19 March, 2013 Could see hime ending up back at Sheffield United to be honest. Ouch! From the premiership to league 1 in under 12 months Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 19 March, 2013 Share Posted 19 March, 2013 Agree with your list, but would keep Mayuka and probably add either Hooiveld or Fonte to it (depending on how serious Saints are about European ambitions, neither of those two are going to see us improve). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 19 March, 2013 Share Posted 19 March, 2013 Because we were in the Championship. Fox is better going forward but Harding was the better defender. Thank God we promoted Shaw when we did, he's been exceptional. A new left back much needed in the summer. The others I'd keep, but I think Sharp will probably be off anyway. Harding was no way close to being a better defender, nor as good going forward. Harding was just dreadful. Done a job in L1 but pretty awful apart from that. Fox is a top half Champ player, but is being shown up in the Prem as he isn't good enough at this level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 19 March, 2013 Share Posted 19 March, 2013 (In Will Smith accent) "Awwwww HELL NO." The others I perhaps agree with, unless better reinforcements can be made, but I'd rather no back up left back than Fox. I'd rather play Jos or Forren at left back. Or Seaborne. Or my wife. Ok perhaps not her, but you get the gist. Even Harding would have been better back up than Fox. I loathe knocking a Saints player but Fox is not Premier League quality and never will be. Neither is Seaborne or Harding, or Hooiveld at LB for that matter. Personally I think Fox is more than capable at LB for a lower Prem team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capitalsaint Posted 19 March, 2013 Share Posted 19 March, 2013 nice job on the pic glasgow, looks official. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 19 March, 2013 Author Share Posted 19 March, 2013 nice job on the pic glasgow, looks official. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 19 March, 2013 Share Posted 19 March, 2013 Glasgow loves a pic-post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 19 March, 2013 Share Posted 19 March, 2013 Neither is Seaborne or Harding, or Hooiveld at LB for that matter. Personally I think Fox is more than capable at LB for a lower Prem team. He isn't. He is too slow and static for this league and is a liability every time he plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 19 March, 2013 Author Share Posted 19 March, 2013 Glasgow loves a pic-post. A picture tells a thousand words Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 19 March, 2013 Share Posted 19 March, 2013 Our first XI is decent and if we can add strength in depth in the summer we can push on to be a midtable side next year. Agreed, but only if we really push on and substantially increase our shots at goal stats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 19 March, 2013 Share Posted 19 March, 2013 A picture tells a thousand words Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 19 March, 2013 Share Posted 19 March, 2013 Release - Glasgow Saint - CB Fry Retain - Turkish - Hypochondriac - Bearsy - Tokyo Re-sign - Delldays Out on loan - Barry Sanchez - 110 Persaint Whooooohhhoooooo! I made the cut. Bearsy is banned though Shirley, can we swap him for CB Fry instead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 19 March, 2013 Share Posted 19 March, 2013 A picture tells a thousand words Well, that one was 4 really. Maybe I should reincarnate myself as the new MLG? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom8558 Posted 19 March, 2013 Share Posted 19 March, 2013 Release - Glasgow Saint - CB Fry Retain - Turkish - Hypochondriac - Bearsy - Tokyo Re-sign - Delldays Out on loan - Barry Sanchez - 110 Persaint Bring in Deppo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 19 March, 2013 Share Posted 19 March, 2013 (edited) He isn't. He is too slow and static for this league and is a liability every time he plays. Related to this, I wonder why there was no thread slating Shaw after the free-kick that went straight to a Liverpool player on saturday and nearly (possibly should have, as Sturridge wasn't offside) resulted in a goal? If it had been Fox you can be damn well sure there would be 6-7 pages about it. Similarly, had Guly messed up the one on one Lambert did... Edited 19 March, 2013 by Saint_clark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shirleysfc Posted 19 March, 2013 Share Posted 19 March, 2013 Whooooohhhoooooo! I made the cut. Bearsy is banned though Shirley, can we swap him for CB Fry instead? G'wan then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 19 March, 2013 Share Posted 19 March, 2013 Agreed, but only if we really push on and substantially increase our shots at goal stats Good point, as Ollalanas stats proved at the weekend the team that has the most shots at goal doesn't win in more than 50% of games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 19 March, 2013 Share Posted 19 March, 2013 Release - Glasgow Saint - CB Fry Retain - Turkish - Hypochondriac - Bearsy - Tokyo Re-sign - Delldays Out on loan - Barry Sanchez - 110 Persaint What a dull place this would be without such posters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 19 March, 2013 Share Posted 19 March, 2013 Read it again dalikdic, all the good ones are staying* *Apart from Glesga and Bearsy but .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capitalsaint Posted 20 March, 2013 Share Posted 20 March, 2013 Well, that one was 4 really. Maybe I should reincarnate myself as the new MLG? you're certainly more annoying than him. anybody else noticed this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capitalsaint Posted 20 March, 2013 Share Posted 20 March, 2013 don't worry glasgow, i've got your back. kelvinshandpuppet won't mess with us any more. also richardson should stay, he's a solid backup to clyne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 20 March, 2013 Share Posted 20 March, 2013 don't worry glasgow, i've got your back. kelvinshandpuppet won't mess with us any more. also richardson should stay, he's a solid backup to clyne. Really? Was woeful vs Everton away, and don't think he's played since ? Yoshida and Cork have both been preferred to him playing in his 'proper' position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capitalsaint Posted 20 March, 2013 Share Posted 20 March, 2013 Really? Was woeful vs Everton away, and don't think he's played since ? Yoshida and Cork have both been preferred to him playing in his 'proper' position. you mean richardson? kelvinsrightglove is always woeful, hence my confusion. you're probably right, i just like having a right back who is able to whip in a fairly decent cross. maybe i'm still hanging onto my view of him in the championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 20 March, 2013 Share Posted 20 March, 2013 you're certainly more annoying than him. anybody else noticed this? Amazing, I'm on to a winner. Watch this space... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 20 March, 2013 Share Posted 20 March, 2013 you mean richardson? kelvinsrightglove is always woeful, hence my confusion. you're probably right, i just like having a right back who is able to whip in a fairly decent cross. maybe i'm still hanging onto my view of him in the championship. I am a master RB, crosses like Mr. Whippy. Richardson simply isn't Premiership quality. Much like your grammar. FFS, take a hint from your name and use some capital letters once in a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 20 March, 2013 Share Posted 20 March, 2013 Read it again dalikdic, all the good ones are staying* *Apart from Glesga and Bearsy but .... Matter of opinion, or is that not allowed in your world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melmacian_saint Posted 21 March, 2013 Share Posted 21 March, 2013 Really? Was woeful vs Everton away, and don't think he's played since ? Yoshida and Cork have both been preferred to him playing in his 'proper' position. Except he wasn't. He had a good run of games until Fulham were he got seriously injured and was stretched off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 21 March, 2013 Share Posted 21 March, 2013 Except he wasn't. He had a good run of games until Fulham were he got seriously injured and was stretched off. Did you go? He was atrocious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 22 April, 2013 Author Share Posted 22 April, 2013 Anyone missing? I wonder if Nigel would return for any of these (next season) if he gets Reading or Leeds job? Emmanuel Mayuka Frazer Richardson Guly do Prado Danny Butterfield Steve De Ridder Danny Fox Billy Sharp Dean Hammond Tadanari Lee Danny Seaborne Richard Chaplow Lee Barnard Ryan Dickson Tommy Forecast Jonathan Forte Aaron Martin stand by this list and seems the club and Mirror agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 22 April, 2013 Share Posted 22 April, 2013 Please can we get rid of Billy Sharp. I really like the guy, but the endless talk of him coming back/playing in the Prem just does my head in. Struggling to get a look in at Forest now, yet people will still want him in the Prem. There must be a reason he has not been given a crack at it before. Both parties should just move on in my opinion. Like with Lambert, Boruc, Clyne, Rodriguez, Yoshida, Hooiveld, Fonte, Shaw, Schneiderlin, Ramirez, Ward-Prowse and Lallana, you mean ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 22 April, 2013 Share Posted 22 April, 2013 Like with Lambert, Boruc, Clyne, Rodriguez, Yoshida, Hooiveld, Fonte, Shaw, Schneiderlin, Ramirez, Ward-Prowse and Lallana, you mean ? What an utterly bizarre post. Not even an ounce of consistency in the comparisons. Boruc has played in Serie A & SPL, so some top levels, including Champions League football. Jos has also played SPL & Champions League football. Yoshi played in a top division in Holland. Clyne, Rodriguez & Lallana and probably even Morgan are all younger and have had less time establishing themselves in the Championship. Gaston has played Serie A and has international experience, prior to joining Saints. Shaw & JWP are academy graduates both not yet even 19. Until last year Lambert hadn't even played at Championship level, so judging whether a guy in his late 20's can make the jump from L1 to the Prem is perceived as a greater risk, especially seeing as it would have taken a sizable offer to prise him away from Saints. Even this year there were doubts from fans and pundits whether or not he could do it on this level. Sharp has been regularly playing and scoring in the Championship for a more prolonged period (even then usually closer to the bottom end of that league than the top) than those you mention - yet still no-one took a punt on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 22 April, 2013 Share Posted 22 April, 2013 What an utterly bizarre post. Not even an ounce of consistency in the comparisons. Boruc has played in Serie A & SPL, so some top levels, including Champions League football. Jos has also played SPL & Champions League football. Yoshi played in a top division in Holland. Clyne, Rodriguez & Lallana and probably even Morgan are all younger and have had less time establishing themselves in the Championship. Gaston has played Serie A and has international experience, prior to joining Saints. Shaw & JWP are academy graduates both not yet even 19. Until last year Lambert hadn't even played at Championship level, so judging whether a guy in his late 20's can make the jump from L1 to the Prem is perceived as a greater risk, especially seeing as it would have taken a sizable offer to prise him away from Saints. Even this year there were doubts from fans and pundits whether or not he could do it on this level. Sharp has been regularly playing and scoring in the Championship for a more prolonged period (even then usually closer to the bottom end of that league than the top) than those you mention - yet still no-one took a punt on him. I just posted a list of the 12 Saints players without previous Prem experience before this season who have done pretty well, as there also "must be a reason [they haven't] had a crack at it before", it was up to you to justify the difference between them and Sharp. Of all of those, I think the Lambert argument is at the very least the same argument, and (contrary to my expectations) he's done well. So why couldn't Sharp ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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