Statistics show we are as safe as Man U...

[NickG]

....

 

If teams continue with the same current form for their remaining games - teams with 8 games left gain the same amount of points as they have over the last 8, those with 9, the amount of points they have gained over the last 9.

 

The final table will look like this...

 

Newcastle 45

Norwich 42

Aston Villa 41

Saints 40

West Ham 40

Stoke 39

Sunderland 37

Wigan 36

QPR 32

Reading 27

 

Safe as West Ham, therefore as safe as Man U?

 

Current form quickly changes - Aston Villa look good due to winning last two games against Reading and QPR.

 

Also takes no account with how easy or hard games left are (not that ours is logical QPR/Man C/ Liverpool?)

 

Don't think that will be that close to how it will ends but shows -

 

 

all those teams could easily be dragged into it - lose two games in a row now and pressure will be on for any of us.

 

37/38 will probably be enough.

[Saint-Armstrong]

Statistics also show we are 16th out of 20 on a 30 game form table, considering all results this season. 18th-20th go down.

 

Far from safe.

[Saint_clark]

It would be hilarious if West Ham went down now, for several reasons.

[pingwing]

It would be hilarious if West Ham went down now, for several reasons.

 

Mainly because they'll be broke and with their tails between their legs offering fat sam another contract seeing as no one else in their right mind would manage them (accept Appleton seeing as he's always ready for a new challenge)

 

Plus I like the conformation of the 3 teams promoted last year we are the best.

[CB Fry]

It would be hilarious if West Ham went down now, for several reasons.

 

 

The only hilarious thing is this forum's deranged obsession with West Ham. Pathetic, bitter small time mentality. WHU fans don't give us a moments thought. But there's a rant about them on here every single day.

 

 

...and right on cue, this:

 

Mainly because they'll be broke and with their tails between their legs offering fat sam another contract seeing as no one else in their right mind would manage them (accept Appleton seeing as he's always ready for a new challenge)

 

Plus I like the conformation of the 3 teams promoted last year we are the best.

 

Complete mentalists.

[trousers]

I think that sums up the majority of football fans and football forums.

 

Form is a temporary thing subject to change for better or worse.

 

If we get relegated there'll be people on here proclaiming the opposite... "Our form was improving under Adkins ergo we would have stayed up if we hadn't changed manager"...

Edited 19 March, 2013 by trousers

[Saint_clark]

The only hilarious thing is this forum's deranged obsession with West Ham. Pathetic, bitter small time mentality. WHU fans don't give us a moments thought. But there's a rant about them on here every single day.

 

 

...and right on cue, this:

 

 

 

Complete mentalists.

 

I don't give a f*ck about any of that. It'll be funny because of the way West Ham fans were so smug after beating us 4-1 at their place, and also because of your comment about them being as safe as United.

[CB Fry]

If we get relegated there'll be people on here proclaiming the opposite... "Our form was improving under Adkins ergo we would have stayed up if we hadn't changed manager"...

 

There is a teeny wee chance that if we do go down, the change of manager will be discussed as a contributory factor. Good that you noticed.

[Lets B Avenue]

Mainly because they'll be broke and with their tails between their legs offering fat sam another contract seeing as no one else in their right mind would manage them (accept Appleton seeing as he's always ready for a new challenge)

 

 

Looks like he's ready right now.

[The9]

Statistics also show we are 16th out of 20 on a 30 game form table, considering all results this season. 18th-20th go down.

 

Far from safe.

 

2 places from relegation is 100% safe.

 

However, statistics which only extrapolate what's gone before and apply it in a blanket manner to the future are not as accurate as those which consider the detail of the future as well. i.e. after 8 matches against mostly top teams we'd have been screwed, and it was never going to be representative of the whole season.

Edited 19 March, 2013 by The9
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[The9]

The only hilarious thing is this forum's deranged obsession with West Ham. Pathetic, bitter small time mentality. WHU fans don't give us a moments thought. But there's a rant about them on here every single day.

 

...and right on cue, this:

 

Complete mentalists.

 

To be fair most of the "obsession" with West Ham is mainly based on one bonkers comment about how safe or likely to win the title they were compared to Man U, which came out them being used as an early benchmark for success of a fellow promoted side due to their half decent start at a time when we were playing top teams every match (plus Wigan).

[aintforever]

....

 

If teams continue with the same current form for their remaining games

 

I didn't bother reading after that because it wont happen.

[CB Fry]

To be fair most of the "obsession" with West Ham is mainly based on one bonkers comment about how safe or likely to win the title they were compared to Man U, which came out them being used as an early benchmark for success of a fellow promoted side due to their half decent start at a time when we were playing top teams every match (plus Wigan).

 

 

If you can find that comment about West Ham winning the title, do post it up.

 

It exists by the way. Wes Tender said it and he is a bellend.

[derry]

Since we sorted the team after WBA we have taken 27 points from 20 games with a +4 goal difference. If we just keep doing that we will have 42ish points.

[Saint Charlie]

Since we sorted the team after WBA we have taken 27 points from 20 games with a +4 goal difference. If we just keep doing that we will have 42ish points.

 

Also coincides with Cork becoming back.

[derry]

Also coincides with Cork becoming back.

 

And Shaw playing regularly at left back.

[Wes Tender]

If you can find that comment about West Ham winning the title, do post it up.

 

It exists by the way. Wes Tender said it and he is a bellend.

 

Stop trying to deflect attention away from the crass stupidity of your comment, which everybody knows is the reason for this thread when they read the title. Here is a reminder of what you said:-

 

13th January Quote CB Fry:

West Ham currently as likely to go down as Man United are.

 

As for the other quote from me, here it is in context:-

 

It doesn't matter how you try and dress it up, it is still the most ludicrous thing that you have said on this forum in my memory. You might as well say that West Ham have an equal chance to Manchester United of being champions. That is equally as barmy. Sometimes you're just really barking.

 

So you see, it wasn't an opinion of mine. It was riduculing you, not something that difficult to achieve. If you like, I'll also quote all the others on that thread who thought you were the bellend.

[Lighthouse]

If only we could have found a winner at Norwich. We'd have 2 extra points, be above West Ham and therefore guaranteed safety already.

 

FWIW I still think it's QPR, Reading and Villa going down.

[CB Fry]

Stop trying to deflect attention away from the crass stupidity of your comment, which everybody knows is the reason for this thread when they read the title. Here is a reminder of what you said:-

 

13th January Quote CB Fry:

 

As for the other quote from me, here it is in context:-

 

 

 

So you see, it wasn't an opinion of mine. It was riduculing you, not something that difficult to achieve. If you like, I'll also quote all the others on that thread who thought you were the bellend.

 

Wrong.

 

So you see, it was you completely misunderstanding my point, making a thick-as-pigsh it comparison and looking like a bellend in the process.

 

And I don't need to deflect attention from what I said. I stand by it and I am right. West Ham are as likely to go down as Man United. Ie they aint going down.

 

Finishing TOP ONE is very different to finishing TOP SEVENTEEN and you demonstrated just how spectacularly dumb you are by making the comparison. You did it. Not me.

 

 

The rest of you clowns can talk stats and odds all day long but it won't make West Ham go down because they won't be going down.

 

See you all in May when you can remind me how pointless your little statistical flights of fancy were.

Edited 19 March, 2013 by CB Fry

[Saint_clark]

Wrong.

 

So you see, it was you completely misunderstanding my point, making a thick-as-pigsh it comparison and looking like a bellend in the process.

 

And I don't need to deflect attention from what I said. I stand by it and I am right. West Ham are as likely to go down as Man United. Ie they aint going down.

 

Finishing TOP ONE is very different to finishing TOP SEVENTEEN and you demonstrated just how spectacularly dumb you are by making the comparison. You did it. Not me.

 

 

The rest of you clowns can talk stats and odds all day long but it won't make West Ham go down because they won't be going down.

 

See you all in May when you can remind me how pointless your little statistical flights of fancy were.

 

You do realise that should Wigan win their other game in hand, West Ham will be 3 points (a one game swing) above the relegation zone?

[aintforever]

Just admit you were talking b*ll*x CB Fry. Even if West ham do stay up you were talking a load of cr@p.

 

It's like me saying before the Man City game that it's impossible we will lose today, then after we win saying I told you so. West Ham could still go down, Man Utd can't, they are just facts.

[Wes Tender]

When you've got yourself into a hole, the best advice that you could take, is to stop digging.

 

Several people have given sensible, intelligent reasons why West Ham were currently (at that time) far more likely than Man Utd to go down.

 

Irrefutable amongst them was the fact that Man Utd were probably safe at that time, whereas West Ham were not.

 

And as your understanding of the English language appears to be so lacking, I will point out once again that the reverse analogy of West Ham being as likely to end up champions as Man Utd was not my opinion, but an illustration of the stupidity of your thought processes that I thought that would be within your capability.

 

Finishing TOP ONE is very different to finishing TOP SEVENTEEN? What the f*ck are you going on about? Top one against bottom three is surely what you meant to say, but then again, who knows what you mean to say.

[trousers]

There is a teeny wee chance that if we do go down, the change of manager will be discussed as a contributory factor. Good that you noticed.

 

Good that you noticed that I noticed.

[Turkish]

Just admit you were talking b*ll*x CB Fry. Even if West ham do stay up you were talking a load of cr@p.

 

It's like me saying before the Man City game that it's impossible we will lose today, then after we win saying I told you so. West Ham could still go down, Man Utd can't, they are just facts.

 

I think most people that aren't a complete f*ckwit knew th point he was making. man United wont go down and neither will West Ham, it's no surprise that most of the mugs on here don't understand that point though.

[JackFrost]

 

And I don't need to deflect attention from what I said. I stand by it and I am right. West Ham are as likely to go down as Man United. Ie they aint going down.

 

West Ham are not mathematically safe but Man U are. Even I think West Ham are unlikely to go down but you're repeating a set-in-stone comment that is factually wrong.

 

Finishing TOP ONE is very different to finishing TOP SEVENTEEN and you demonstrated just how spectacularly dumb you are by making the comparison. You did it. Not me.

 

And how intelligent do you think it is to claim that the probability of relegation is identical when comparing one club that is 6 points above the relegation zone and have lost 5 of their last 7 games, and another club that is 47 points clear and are mathematically impossible to go down?

 

Seriously, if you dig yourself into a hole stop digging.

 

As for claiming other posters are demonstrating just how spectacularly dumb they are when they disagree with you, not long after you yourself post crap like this http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?43653-Le-Tiss-running-his-mouth-off-again&highlight=trolling

 

that's barely anything more than trolling.

[NickG]

I think most people that aren't a complete f*ckwit knew th point he was making. man United wont go down and neither will West Ham, it's no surprise that most of the mugs on here don't understand that point though.

 

At best he worded it badly and then stubbornly and aggressively stuck with his error, not big deal but can't then be surprised that people pick him up only.

 

If he said initially that he didn't think West Ham would be relegated or just couldn't see them even getting close to being drawn into it then most would agree, all would get his point.

 

But he didn't. What he says is wrong. They are not as safe as man U, even with half a brain anyone else can see that.

 

I think they will be well clear, but if they get 0 or 1 point from next game they will worry. Their message board has loads saying they aren't safe.

 

If you could get odds on man U staying up you would bet all your savings.

 

We know he wouldn't bet all his savings that West Ham stay up and he knows they don't have same chance of being relegated.

 

Bet no-one would have problem with his opinions, only recently noticed him but he does seem stressy and argumentative.

[Turkish]

At best he worded it badly and then stubbornly and aggressively stuck with his error, not big deal but can't then be surprised that people pick him up only.

 

If he said initially that he didn't think West Ham would be relegated or just couldn't see them even getting close to being drawn into it then most would agree, all would get his point.

 

But he didn't. What he says is wrong. They are not as safe as man U, even with half a brain anyone else can see that.

 

I think they will be well clear, but if they get 0 or 1 point from next game they will worry. Their message board has loads saying they aren't safe.

 

If you could get odds on man U staying up you would bet all your savings.

 

We know he wouldn't bet all his savings that West Ham stay up and he knows they don't have same chance of being relegated.

 

Bet no-one would have problem with his opinions, only recently noticed him but he does seem stressy and argumentative.

 

As the master of saying things wrong, it's somewhat ironic that you are the one pointing it. Remind me how we are getting on this season with our league one squad. Why don't you stick to making up some statistics then immediately admit they are a load of bo llocks because they don't take into account who future opponents might be or are skewed by who previous opponents have been for other teams like in you did in the OP. it really is gripping stuff.

[aintforever]

I think most people that aren't a complete f*ckwit knew th point he was making. man United wont go down and neither will West Ham, it's no surprise that most of the mugs on here don't understand that point though.

 

I think everyone understands the point he was making, it's not very likely that West Ham will go down.

 

He just had to act like a typical SaintsWebForum mong and go one step further and say it was as likely as Man U going down which is complete c*ck, that is why people pick up on it.

[NickG]

As the master of saying things wrong, it's somewhat ironic that you are the one pointing it. Remind me how we are getting on this season with our league one squad. Why don't you stick to making up some statistics then immediately admit they are a load of bo llocks because they don't take into account who future opponents might be or are skewed by who previous opponents have been for other teams like in you did in the OP. it really is gripping stuff.

 

Find an error I made (not your usual trolling made-up, mis-quoting out of context spoiling) will gladly admit it and back down. You know you have been corrected on the one you raise so won't rise to the trolling.

 

If you dont like threads like this and find them boring few simple tips..

 

If you don't like my threads, too dull for your gripping life...don't open one you can see I started

 

If you don't like stats don't open one with stats in title.

 

Stats help paint a picture, give some information....for example this proves West Ham are still potential relegation candidates.

 

Alternatively, admit you love it and that is you read with interest and post twice for your gripping enjoyment

[Turkish]

Find an error I made (not your usual trolling made-up, mis-quoting out of context spoiling) will gladly admit it and back down. You know you have been corrected on the one you raise so won't rise to the trolling.

 

If you dont like threads like this and find them boring few simple tips..

 

If you don't like my threads, too dull for your gripping life...don't open one you can see I started

 

If you don't like stats don't open one with stats in title.

 

Stats help paint a picture, give some information....for example this proves West Ham are still potential relegation candidates.

 

Alternatively, admit you love it and that is you read with interest and post twice for your gripping enjoyment

 

Why quote stats and then say they are wrong as Villas stats aren't accurate because they had a couple of easy games and that they don't any hard games teams might have coming up? You admitted yourself on the OP that your stats are a load of bo llocks as soon as you started going on about villa last two fixtures distorting them.

[Turkish]

I think everyone understands the point he was making, it's not very likely that West Ham will go down.

 

He just had to act like a typical SaintsWebForum mong and go one step further and say it was as likely as Man U going down which is complete c*ck, that is why people pick up on it.

 

And it's completely unlike Saintsweb Mongs to still be going on about it weeks later, like the way you are doing, yes?

[aintforever]

And it's completely unlike Saintsweb Mongs to still be going on about it weeks later, like the way you are doing, yes?

 

I only posted because he carried on talking sh!te on this thread instead of just admitting he was wrong.

[Turkish]

I only posted because he carried on talking sh!te on this thread instead of just admitting he was wrong.

 

The only ones I can we talking sh**e are the ones going on and on and on and on and on about West Ham, those making up stats to prove something and immediately admitting their stats are wrong and people like Les Bender and yourself who try as they might seem to find it impossible to do anything but talk sh*te.

[Saint_clark]

It's funny how some people get so wound up when they're wrong.

[aintforever]

The only ones I can we talking sh**e are the ones going on and on and on and on and on about West Ham, those making up stats to prove something and immediately admitting their stats are wrong and people like Les Bender and yourself who try as they might seem to find it impossible to do anything but talk sh*te.

 

LOL, that's rich coming from you. Still to this day banging on about something Matt le God might have said pre-season.

[CB Fry]

When you've got yourself into a hole, the best advice that you could take, is to stop digging.

 

Several people have given sensible, intelligent reasons why West Ham were currently (at that time) far more likely than Man Utd to go down.

 

Irrefutable amongst them was the fact that Man Utd were probably safe at that time, whereas West Ham were not.

 

And as your understanding of the English language appears to be so lacking, I will point out once again that the reverse analogy of West Ham being as likely to end up champions as Man Utd was not my opinion, but an illustration of the stupidity of your thought processes that I thought that would be within your capability.

 

Finishing TOP ONE is very different to finishing TOP SEVENTEEN? What the f*ck are you going on about? Top one against bottom three is surely what you meant to say, but then again, who knows what you mean to say.

 

Top seventeen is what I meant to say and I note you still dont get it. Me saying West Ham won't go down (top seventeen) is not the same as saying West Ham can win the league (top one) which was your pigsh it thick interpretation of what I said.

 

My point is your "reverse anology" was senseless garbage. My point, you see, is fundementally based on something that will actually happen (WHU staying up).

 

Your "reverse analogy" is not and is nothing more than a banner as high as the moon saying "Good God Wes Tender is a freaking moron."

 

There's some English language for you which I am sure you are too dumb to comprehend.

Edited 19 March, 2013 by CB Fry

[Turkish]

LOL, that's rich coming from you. Still to this day banging on about something Matt le God might have said pre-season.

 

Again ironic considering only recently you completely made up a post about something I was meant to have said in preseason, when I actually said nothing like that at all.

[CB Fry]

I think everyone understands the point he was making, it's not very likely that West Ham will go down.

 

He just had to act like a typical SaintsWebForum mong and go one step further and say it was as likely as Man U going down which is complete c*ck, that is why people pick up on it.

 

 

 

Frankly its the West Ham obsessed spanners on here making a thing of it. I wrote as a throwaway line I expected people to get. Boy did I get that bit wrong.

 

It's not wrong. In August both clubs will be in the PL next year. Both clubs will finish top seventeen. Both clubs will stay up. I said it then, I say it now.

 

Nothing I say on it is wrong, because it is what I think and the statistical anomaly was a freaking given in what I wrote.

 

It was only the lifeless, dumb brigade on here who feel the need to tell me stuff like Man U have more points than WHU. No sh it.

 

Fanks everyone.

[aintforever]

Again ironic considering only recently you completely made up a post about something I was meant to have said in preseason, when I actually said nothing like that at all.

 

I only brought that up once (Saints can't compete with swansea in the transfer market lol), and that was because you were being your usual ***tish self.

[aintforever]

Frankly its the West Ham obsessed spanners on here making a thing of it. I wrote as a throwaway line I expected people to get. Boy did I get that bit wrong.

 

It's not wrong. In August both clubs will be in the PL next year. Both clubs will finish top seventeen. Both clubs will stay up. I said it then, I say it now.

 

Nothing I say on it is wrong, because it is what I think and the statistical anomaly was a freaking given in what I wrote.

 

It was only the lifeless, dumb brigade on here who feel the need to tell me stuff like Man U have more points than WHU. No sh it.

 

Fanks everyone.

 

LOL, how hard is it to admit you were wrong?

[Turkish]

I only brought that up once (Saints can't compete with swansea in the transfer market lol), and that was because you were being your usual ***tish self.

 

, even now you don't get it and are making stuff up, as that isnt what i said at all. Too thick, as you repeatedly prove.

Edited 19 March, 2013 by Turkish

[CB Fry]

LOL, how hard is it to admit you were wrong?

 

 

If West Ham go down I'm wrong.

 

I've said I think they won't and a bunch of spanners on here have got jolly excited. Fu ck em. I'm right.

[Golac's Cunning Stunts]

The only hilarious thing is this forum's deranged obsession with West Ham. Pathetic, bitter small time mentality. WHU fans don't give us a moments thought. But there's a rant about them on here every single day.

 

 

...and right on cue, this:

 

 

 

Complete mentalists.

Ha ha you bit on the bait good and proper, so this thread has fulfilled it's primary purpose. As for saying WHU fans don't give us a moment's thought, this is incorrect. They do. They are always posting jealous and bitter comments on their forum about us. Mostly along the lines of casting us as a poorly supported club with cheating and diving players who are a one man team. Lambert FC.

 

You have gone down in my estimation for trying to defend such a pompous argument.

[aintforever]

You see dumbass, even now you don't get it and are making stuff up. Too thick, as you repeatedly prove.

 

I just wish that one day I will be as clever as you.

 

"just because we are owned by billionaires means nothing" - your exact words LOL

[Turkish]

I just wish that one day I will be as clever as you.

 

"just because we are owned by billionaires means nothing" - your exact words LOL

 

I'm flattered that you remembered a post I made from June last year, truely flattered, now take that sentence, include it in the rest of the paragraph i wrote and put it in context with the rest of the post and there you gave my whole point. As thick as a whale omelette aren't you princess.

[maysie]

Glib, throwaway comment has actually got people debating the fact that Man U aren't as likely to go down as West Ham?! Of course they're not and that much is obvious. Pretty obvious that the comment was made to put across the fact that in the posters opinion there was not a hells chance of West Ham getting relegated. You could set it in any context really, I don't think Man City will catch Man U to win the league. **** it I'm going to say it Man city are as likely to win the league as Reading - please don't shoot me.

 

Most of the time CB Fry comes across as an obnoxious troll (no offence intended) but I think some of you may have taken this a tad far.

[CB Fry]

Ha ha you bit on the bait good and proper, so this thread has fulfilled it's primary purpose. As for saying WHU fans don't give us a moment's thought, this is incorrect. They do. They are always posting jealous and bitter comments on their forum about us. Mostly along the lines of casting us as a poorly supported club with cheating and diving players who are a one man team. Lambert FC.

 

You have gone down in my estimation for trying to defend such a pompous argument.

 

You keep trawling the West Ham forum for howwible comments about us then. I bet there's about three.

 

Oh well, at least we get to play them next year too so you can relive this great football rivalry all over again. Nutjob.

[Turkish]

Glib, throwaway comment has actually got people debating the fact that Man U aren't as likely to go down as West Ham?! Of course they're not and that much is obvious. Pretty obvious that the comment was made to put across the fact that in the posters opinion there was not a hells chance of West Ham getting relegated. You could set it in any context really, I don't think Man City will catch Man U to win the league. **** it I'm going to say it Man city are as likely to win the league as Reading - please don't shoot me.

 

Most of the time CB Fry comes across as an obnoxious troll (no offence intended) but I think some of you may have taken this a tad far.

 

* points finger and sneers*

 

maysie thinks Reading have the same chance of winning the league as Man City, that is the most mental thing I've ever read in the whole of Innnernezzzz mongboard history and here are some stats to prove it.

 

Man City have a 7.34% chance of winning the league

Reading -0.0001224% chance

 

Maysie is mental, sneer, sneer, sneer.

 

But those stats mean nothing as Man City have to play Man United and Reading have to play QPR so have an easier run in but Reading had an easier game Saturday or something.

[CB Fry]

Glib, throwaway comment has actually got people debating the fact that Man U aren't as likely to go down as West Ham?! Of course they're not and that much is obvious. Pretty obvious that the comment was made to put across the fact that in the posters opinion there was not a hells chance of West Ham getting relegated. You could set it in any context really, I don't think Man City will catch Man U to win the league. **** it I'm going to say it Man city are as likely to win the league as Reading - please don't shoot me.

 

Most of the time CB Fry comes across as an obnoxious troll (no offence intended) but I think some of you may have taken this a tad far.

 

None taken. Occassionally I do post stuff to provoke but that original WHU comment wasn't one of them. Frankly bizarre the life it has taken on but also quite funny.

[maysie]

* points finger and sneers*

 

maysie thinks Reading have the same chance of winning the league as Man City, that is the most mental thing I've ever read in the whole of Innnernezzzz mongboard history and here are some stats to prove it.

 

Man City have a 7.34% chance of winning the league

Reading -0.0001224% chance

 

Maysie is mental, sneer, sneer, sneer.

 

But those stats mean nothing as Man City have to play Man United and Reading have to play QPR so have an easier run in but Reading had an easier game Saturday or something.

 

I'm a nutter what can I say. Just love living on the edge. They'll be more crazy outlandish statements like this in the future.

 

Here's a taster... I think Lambert is as likely to play for England as John Parkin.