Tokyo-Saint Posted 13 March, 2013 Share Posted 13 March, 2013 Yes Bearsy it is (really), it is designed to rust on the outside. All lobster shacks are now being made from it, maybe this is what we will have next to the stadium. Here is a story about it, just for you and MLG: I've had this Maine 'buoy bell' wind chime for about eight years now. I really like it. It has the haunting melancholy sound of a bell buoy at sea being tossed by wind and waves. It is made of COR-TEN steel which is designed to rust on the surface to create a protective barrier against further rusting. It came painted black on the outside and was supposed to develop this rich rust patina naturally over time. Well, the unpainted inside did rust completely after about a year, but the outside only rusted slightly, near the bottom, even after exposure to the sun, rain, and snow of the northeast for eight years. I wanted it to have a nice rust patina that looked like it had been hanging on the eaves of a lobster shack, at the end of a pier, for many a year, being splashed and buffeted by nor'easters and sudden gales. Seeing it was taking so long, I decided to take things into my own hands and, ah, "help" mother nature along and accelerate the process. I searched the net and found mostly dangerous methods to induce rust on steel using highly caustic or acidic chemical solutions. However I finally did find a simple safe method, using on-hand household chemicals, buried deep within a thread on the subject at a metalworking forum. I got spectacular results which have not only withstood the wind and rain of the southwest but have actually improved with the help of mother nature. I like the results so much, and there is so little practical information on the subject that is accessible to the general public, I thought I'd share this simple method with the instructables community. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 13 March, 2013 Share Posted 13 March, 2013 tokyos got good good results rubbing household chemicals on his main boy's bell. Edit: that was summary for those too lazy to read whole paragraph of Tokyo-Saint nonsenses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 13 March, 2013 Share Posted 13 March, 2013 thanks for infos tho! Is rusty steel more cheap than non-rusty steel? Is this to make project more affordables? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 13 March, 2013 Share Posted 13 March, 2013 Yeah that's what I thought. Is that going to be the sandcruser bit or is that something else like a massive megastore to buy foam hands in and stuff? Don't be silly, we all know that it's the Exclusive Press box, just for the Echo & #factless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 13 March, 2013 Share Posted 13 March, 2013 Incidentally there is also Scandinavian folk rock band called Corten steel but I do not think they are part of the plans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 13 March, 2013 Share Posted 13 March, 2013 Yes Bearsy it is (really), it is designed to rust on the outside. All lobster shacks are now being made from it, maybe this is what we will have next to the stadium. Here is a story about it, just for you and MLG: I've had this Maine 'buoy bell' wind chime for about eight years now. I really like it. It has the haunting melancholy sound of a bell buoy at sea being tossed by wind and waves. It is made of COR-TEN steel which is designed to rust on the surface to create a protective barrier against further rusting. It came painted black on the outside and was supposed to develop this rich rust patina naturally over time. Well, the unpainted inside did rust completely after about a year, but the outside only rusted slightly, near the bottom, even after exposure to the sun, rain, and snow of the northeast for eight years. I wanted it to have a nice rust patina that looked like it had been hanging on the eaves of a lobster shack, at the end of a pier, for many a year, being splashed and buffeted by nor'easters and sudden gales. Seeing it was taking so long, I decided to take things into my own hands and, ah, "help" mother nature along and accelerate the process. I searched the net and found mostly dangerous methods to induce rust on steel using highly caustic or acidic chemical solutions. However I finally did find a simple safe method, using on-hand household chemicals, buried deep within a thread on the subject at a metalworking forum. I got spectacular results which have not only withstood the wind and rain of the southwest but have actually improved with the help of mother nature. I like the results so much, and there is so little practical information on the subject that is accessible to the general public, I thought I'd share this simple method with the instructables community. Christ, thought I'd managed to post a new reply while downstairs watching telly. Heart started beating again when I was an hour into it and realized it hadn't mentioned Golf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 13 March, 2013 Share Posted 13 March, 2013 (edited) When I used it bear, I typically accelerate the rust by spraying with ammonium chloride and then sprat the sculpture with a mix of linseed oil and turpentine. Even though the customer has to apply another coat of oil every year, it saves on average £1000-2000 per sculpture on galvanising and painting costs. Theses are for regular size structures mind so probably more for the sandcrawler thing. This will help pay for more gold teeth for puncheons. Edited 13 March, 2013 by Tokyo-Saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 13 March, 2013 Share Posted 13 March, 2013 Why? This is not being infered. No grizzling from me. Simply calling it as I see it. Some posters share the club's ambitions; whereas, the noisy ones who wreck every thread they get their hands on, seem dead set against anything improving at the club. I don't understand the mentality of an interweb troll, I don't know what you get from it. If you object to the club progressing, state your reasons why. If you want to see the club progress, but have some reservations over spending, or us over-streaching, fair enough, state them, but don't just snipe snide comments from the sidelines. What are your problems with the club commissioning, and releasing CAD visulisations? No one objects to the club progressing. No one. Not a single person. Understand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 13 March, 2013 Share Posted 13 March, 2013 Still waiting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 13 March, 2013 Share Posted 13 March, 2013 Still waiting. psst. I don't think he wants to answer you so he ran away... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 13 March, 2013 Share Posted 13 March, 2013 When I used it bear, I typically accelerate the rust by spraying with ammonium chloride and then sprat the sculpture with a mix of linseed oil and turpentine. Even though the customer has to apply another coat of oil every year, it saves on average £1000-2000 per sculpture on galvanising and painting costs. Theses are for regular size structures mind so probably more for the sandcrawler thing. This will help pay for more gold teeth for puncheons. do you need to make ur sculptures of main boy's bell more thick tho? I mean cos of sacificial rustings? i'm concerned bout if the additional material would mean more costs. i hope this is all factored in. Possibly explains the hold up in construction of jawa sandcruiser? genuine question. no trolls pls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 13 March, 2013 Share Posted 13 March, 2013 Still waiting. i am willing to help with this. what is question? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 13 March, 2013 Share Posted 13 March, 2013 Crabby, I'm filling in for MLG to tonight, he has given me full powers. Any questions you have for him, you can ask me as I have all the information. Bear, yes these thick bells can add to the construction costs but luckily NC is a famously small man so we will save money in other areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 13 March, 2013 Share Posted 13 March, 2013 FFS bear, I'm filling in not you. He wants a serious answer about cortens steel not some rabble about brummy prostitutes smellin of rihanna. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 13 March, 2013 Share Posted 13 March, 2013 here is test to see who is mlg jnr. Search this thread and find someone who needs correcting bout something. First one to do a correction is official mlg fluffer for night. GO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 13 March, 2013 Share Posted 13 March, 2013 They are not really even plans, they are just drawings and artist impressions. Might as well of been whacked up by the 9 or something. The last stadium I designed was on PES 2013 fwiw. It was St Mary's. Ish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 13 March, 2013 Share Posted 13 March, 2013 FFS bear, I'm filling in not you. He wants a serious answer about cortens steel not some rabble about brummy prostitutes smellin of rihanna. here is test to see who is mlg jnr. Search this thread and find someone who needs correcting bout something. First one to do a correction is official mlg fluffer for night. GO! Shouldn't cortens & steel have capital letters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 13 March, 2013 Share Posted 13 March, 2013 Crabby, I'm filling in for MLG to tonight, he has given me full powers. Any questions you have for him, you can ask me as I have all the information. . err no that is incorrect. I am mlg tonight. http://www.bearsyismlgtonite.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 13 March, 2013 Share Posted 13 March, 2013 OK, OK. Here's the crux of my questions. I've emboldened the bit where I've asked what I'd like to know, but so far I haven't had any answers. I've quoted MLG's original diatribe to "set the scene" for you. Here you go; If we can average over 30k in a relegation season, a half decent season would require a bigger stadium. Every sell out we've had this season means the club has turned customers away. Question 1: And how many games was that? I'd love to know. We are playing in a packed out stadium whilst in a relegation battle, Cortese has ambitions and it seems resources for Saints not to be in a relegation battle. Therefore the stadium is too small. What exactly would he now be waiting for? He can already see that Saints will fill St Mary's when in a relegation battle, if the club was actually doing well he'll need his bigger stadium. The surrounding development is also largely independent of what league we are in and will add to revenue streams. Question 2: How big do you think we are, seriously? If you sell out your stadium out when in a relegation fight and have ambitions of competing much higher up the league, then yes, it is too small. Question 3: How many times have they sold out then? I'd like to know. Question 4: I'd also like to know as to why you think it's a sensible investment to spend £30m+ expanding the stadium on the basis that a few games out 19 this season were sold out (and bearing in mind that it's still a novelty as we're back in the top division for the first time in seven years). Have you noticed it isn't merely a capacity increase, far more to it than that which will benefit revenue streams. My reference to the training ground is that unlike Pompey, Cortese/Liebherr have a history of seeing through building projects. I doubt they are the type that put time money and effort into pipe dreams. Cortese means business. Question 5: I didn't realise you'd been following their work for so long. I'd love to see some examples of their joint projects together.. then we'd know that it isn't factless bile, won't we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 13 March, 2013 Share Posted 13 March, 2013 here is test to see who is mlg jnr. Search this thread and find someone who needs correcting bout something. First one to do a correction is official mlg fluffer for night. GO! Capital H please, Bear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 13 March, 2013 Share Posted 13 March, 2013 bastard dubai! bloody sandpeople lurking on jawa sandcruiser threads! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 13 March, 2013 Share Posted 13 March, 2013 mine at least had link to external evidences. MLG always does that, or if not video evidences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 13 March, 2013 Share Posted 13 March, 2013 The last stadium I designed was on PES 2013 fwiw. It was St Mary's. Ish. Hi 9, I don't believe you meant to put a dot/full stop or whatever in between st Mary's and ish, these should be together or something. Love MLG junior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 13 March, 2013 Share Posted 13 March, 2013 PS: For those who think people are rounding on him and reject all progress for the club. For me, it's absolutely clear; All it is the same people asking the same pertinent questions to someone who refuses to listen. No-one objects to progress, but they have a right to reject someones viewpoint, especially if it's skewed in their opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 13 March, 2013 Share Posted 13 March, 2013 At LAST! Total CONCLUSIVE proof that WE need a BIGGER STADIUM! http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2292717/Middlesbrough-fans-free-pint-new-season-ticket-deal.html If ONLY we weren't almost selling out every week, IF ONLY we needed MORE ST holders, then THE REST OF US could demand the same promotion at SMS+ Free beer for ST Holders. Hell, it's almost worth the ticket tax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 13 March, 2013 Share Posted 13 March, 2013 Those seem like tough questions crabby, you came to the right place. Answers 1) loads 2) massive 3) Loads again 4) very serious I'll come back to you with the examples as I'm going to have my dinner now. You're welcome Tokyos Aka MLG jnr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 13 March, 2013 Share Posted 13 March, 2013 (edited) Question 1: And how many games was that? I'd love to know. We is done 6 sold outs season so far. http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/southampton-fc/zuschauerzahlen/verein_180.html Question 2: How big do you think we are, seriously? we is currently 18th biggest club in england, but we is getting more bigger with superman cortese & liebherr millions Edit: it might of been 17th biggest actually. i can't quite remember. i will check with mlg. Question 3: How many times have they sold out then? I'd like to know. who? it is not clear from ur quotings Edit: Was it readings? Readings is done 11 sold outs season so far http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/reading-fc/zuschauerzahlen/verein_1032.html Question 4: I'd also like to know as to why you think it's a sensible investment to spend £30m+ expanding the stadium on the basis that a few games out 19 this season were sold out (and bearing in mind that it's still a novelty as we're back in the top division for the first time in seven years). cos cortese thinks we is gonna be much success and he is backing visions with liebherr millions. Question 5: I didn't realise you'd been following their work for so long. I'd love to see some examples of their joint projects together.. then we'd know that it isn't factless bile, won't we? i think me & mlg was referring to training grounds Edited 13 March, 2013 by Bearsy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 13 March, 2013 Share Posted 13 March, 2013 At LAST! Total CONCLUSIVE proof that WE need a BIGGER STADIUM! http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2292717/Middlesbrough-fans-free-pint-new-season-ticket-deal.html If ONLY we weren't almost selling out every week, IF ONLY we needed MORE ST holders, then THE REST OF US could demand the same promotion at SMS+ Free beer for ST Holders. Hell, it's almost worth the ticket tax Fat chance of that. I'm still waiting for my pint from Plymouth away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 13 March, 2013 Share Posted 13 March, 2013 Too slow dumb bear, I already answer all the questions well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 13 March, 2013 Share Posted 13 March, 2013 i had to ring mlg to get a couple of them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 13 March, 2013 Share Posted 13 March, 2013 Fat chance of that. I'm still waiting for my pint from Plymouth away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 13 March, 2013 Share Posted 13 March, 2013 (edited) Hi 9, I don't believe you meant to put a dot/full stop or whatever in between st Mary's and ish, these should be together or something. Love MLG junior. Yeah I did. Also, it's an online convention (and one of journalism) nowadays to ignore the "dot" after "St", so you can't have that one either. See here http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/reading/9923524/Reading-sack-Brian-McDermott-with-Paolo-Di-Canio-and-****-Advocaat-front-runners-to-take-over-at-Madejski.html "Zenit St Petersburg". This is to do with no being out-pendanted, as opposed to any desire to fluff for MLG, for the record. If you wish to take issue regarding the full stop, you should be indicating that "Ish" is not a sentence and doesn't deserve to be one, as all sentences contain verbs. But that, again, is just artistic license. Edited 13 March, 2013 by The9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 13 March, 2013 Share Posted 13 March, 2013 (edited) Whatever the9, I'm MLG for the night. Ish. If you have any questions about rusty steal just put them forward. Otherwise stop spamming up the stadium thread with non stadium/non rusty stuff. Btw - did you mean to put "no being out-pendanted" or did you really want to put "not" instead or whatever? Edited 13 March, 2013 by Tokyo-Saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamesaint Posted 13 March, 2013 Share Posted 13 March, 2013 Why? This is not being infered. No grizzling from me. Simply calling it as I see it. Some posters share the club's ambitions; whereas, the noisy ones who wreck every thread they get their hands on, seem dead set against anything improving at the club. I don't understand the mentality of an interweb troll, I don't know what you get from it. If you object to the club progressing, state your reasons why. If you want to see the club progress, but have some reservations over spending, or us over-streaching, fair enough, state them, but don't just snipe snide comments from the sidelines. What are your problems with the club commissioning, and releasing CAD visulisations? Good questions and well put. I think you just have to accept that some very odd people post on here. They must lead rather dull lives but I suppose if they spend their time on here they are not doing damage somewhere else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 13 March, 2013 Share Posted 13 March, 2013 Good questions and well put. I think you just have to accept that some very odd people post on here. They must lead rather dull lives but I suppose if they spend their time on here they are not doing damage somewhere else. Sigh. Yet another one who didn't read or understand what was being written. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 13 March, 2013 Share Posted 13 March, 2013 how come i posted all mlg's answers to them dumb questions and no-one is attacking me bout them? What did i do wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 13 March, 2013 Share Posted 13 March, 2013 Good questions and well put. I think you just have to accept that some very odd people post on here. They must lead rather dull lives but I suppose if they spend their time on here they are not doing damage somewhere else. Jesus Christ. Care to name a single person on this forum who "objects to the club progressing". Just one name. Fairyland stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamesaint Posted 13 March, 2013 Share Posted 13 March, 2013 Jesus Christ. Care to name a single person on this forum who "objects to the club progressing". Just one name. Fairyland stuff. I think that everyone knows who are the "noisy ones who ruin every thread they get their hands on" and who "seem dead set against anything improving;" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 13 March, 2013 Share Posted 13 March, 2013 I think that everyone knows who are the "noisy ones who ruin every thread they get their hands on" and who "seem dead set against anything improving;" I don't. Can you point them out? I don't think I've ever heard of anyone who is dead set against Saints improving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 13 March, 2013 Share Posted 13 March, 2013 I think that everyone knows who are the "noisy ones who ruin every thread they get their hands on" and who "seem dead set against anything improving;" Do they? I don't think that everyone does know actually. In fact I don't think anyone does except you. Care to enlighten us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junction 9 Posted 13 March, 2013 Share Posted 13 March, 2013 Jesus Christ. Care to name a single person on this forum who "objects to the club progressing". Just one name. Fairyland stuff. Turkish is bound to be single. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 13 March, 2013 Share Posted 13 March, 2013 I think that everyone knows who are the "noisy ones who ruin every thread they get their hands on" and who "seem dead set against anything improving;" This is Bearsy isn't it? I know he has some strange opinions and is a filthy pervert but even he wants saints to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamesaint Posted 13 March, 2013 Share Posted 13 March, 2013 I don't. Can you point them out? I don't think I've ever heard of anyone who is dead set against Saints improving. Well stop and think really, really hard, read a few more threads , think a little bit harder and you never know, the names of a fewb negative posters may come to you. But you have to think realy, really hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 13 March, 2013 Share Posted 13 March, 2013 I think that everyone knows who are the "noisy ones who ruin every thread they get their hands on" and who "seem dead set against anything improving;" As I said. Absolute fairyland stuff. No one here is dead set against Saints improving. No one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 13 March, 2013 Share Posted 13 March, 2013 Well stop and think really, really hard, read a few more threads , think a little bit harder and you never know, the names of a fewb negative posters may come to you. But you have to think realy, really hard. How is being 'negative' as you put it the same as being dead set against saints improving? I challenge you to name one poster. Just one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamesaint Posted 13 March, 2013 Share Posted 13 March, 2013 This is Bearsy isn't it? I know he has some strange opinions and is a filthy pervert but even he wants saints to win. Correct. Bearsy is very odd but anyonewho can write such a masterful precis of 50 Shades of grey is fine by me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 13 March, 2013 Share Posted 13 March, 2013 Correct. Bearsy is very odd but anyonewho can write such a masterful precis of 50 Shades of grey is fine by me. See you are trying to change the subject whilst failing to provide the name of anyone on here who is dead set against saints improving... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 13 March, 2013 Share Posted 13 March, 2013 Well stop and think really, really hard, read a few more threads , think a little bit harder and you never know, the names of a fewb negative posters may come to you. But you have to think realy, really hard. Nope. Not got it. Alpine? Although if your idea of negative is disagreeing with MLG's idiocy, then your benchmarks clearly need some work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 13 March, 2013 Share Posted 13 March, 2013 Nope. Not got it. Alpine? Although if your idea of negative is disagreeing with MLG's idiocy, then your benchmarks clearly need some work. He says a few posters are dead set against saints improving so it can't just be Alpine. There is a few of these posters but he can't seem to actually name any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 13 March, 2013 Share Posted 13 March, 2013 Nope. Not got it. Alpine? Although if your idea of negative is disagreeing with MLG's idiocy, then your benchmarks clearly need some work. can't you let mlg have his sunshine tho kraks? he's having a hard time of it, i hear that the new fm match engine is not v.good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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