Patrick Bateman Posted 12 March, 2013 Share Posted 12 March, 2013 http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=101121345&postcount=50 Then you scroll down that thread and see the same company doing a design for the new Anfield which does actually look really good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 12 March, 2013 Share Posted 12 March, 2013 Looks like "fantasy island" stuff. I just can't see the ground as shown there happening, let alone the redvelopment of the estate and waterfront around it. Southampton City Council have consistantly failed the city in the planning/development stakes and would never be so imaginative in seeing this scheme through. A few squat flats for eastern european migrants is more likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted 12 March, 2013 Share Posted 12 March, 2013 Looks like something from when of the very very distant future episodes of Doctor Who. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 12 March, 2013 Share Posted 12 March, 2013 Looks like something from when of the very very distant future episodes of Doctor Who. What when they start running out of ideas and start doing zany construction projects instead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 12 March, 2013 Share Posted 12 March, 2013 It's match day so where is everyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 12 March, 2013 Share Posted 12 March, 2013 It's match day so where is everyone? Empty seats ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 12 March, 2013 Share Posted 12 March, 2013 I'd get married in that Wouldn't you rather wear a white dress? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 12 March, 2013 Share Posted 12 March, 2013 Where's the gas works gone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 12 March, 2013 Share Posted 12 March, 2013 not going to happen imo, just pie in the sky nonesense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 12 March, 2013 Share Posted 12 March, 2013 Where's the gas works gone? That'll become a Holiday Inn or similar. From when we moved in. the land around that is too "contaminated" on that part of the old Gas site to allow full time residential but a hotel would be permitted. All it needs is an offer the owners of the Industrial estate cannot refuse and the gravel pit going. Then it needs someone with a LOT of capital available and the redevelopment and housing will make a lot of profit. The Stadium expansion is as much "PR" for the Council as anything to get them to push through the big bucks land deal. Now the profits and bonus on a deal of that size would be far more than taking a football club from L1 to PL safety. All IMHO says the cynic in me of course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimond Geezer Posted 12 March, 2013 Share Posted 12 March, 2013 I like the Southampton Shard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trader Posted 12 March, 2013 Share Posted 12 March, 2013 (edited) ... Edited 12 March, 2013 by Trader Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 12 March, 2013 Share Posted 12 March, 2013 Looks more like it should be the home of McClaren F1 team! Since when did Steve have an F1 team? I know he's out of work, but hadn't realised he had changed sport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 12 March, 2013 Share Posted 12 March, 2013 Melted down as Nick Nack (lololol pmsl) is trying to erase the clubs history etc. Its a serious point, not having Ted's statue in any revamped stadium would be a step too far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 12 March, 2013 Share Posted 12 March, 2013 Its a serious point, not having Ted's statue in any revamped stadium would be a step too far. Yeah, I am sick of the new owners not showing respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaneNero Posted 12 March, 2013 Share Posted 12 March, 2013 Looks like the ****ing Starship Enterprise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted 12 March, 2013 Share Posted 12 March, 2013 Although the emirates was pretty impressive. Soulless bowl, with some leather seats and absolutely no atmosphere isn't my type of impressive. This is impressive... Uploaded with ImageShack.us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 12 March, 2013 Share Posted 12 March, 2013 I can appreciate large well made stadiums and small stadiums with character. It isn't an either or scenario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alehouseboys Posted 12 March, 2013 Share Posted 12 March, 2013 Its a serious point, not having Ted's statue in any revamped stadium would be a step too far. It will probably have been relocated to a quiet corner, 'elf'n'safety, you couldn't just leave something like that stuck out front, someone might trip over it. Nice to have a vision tho...and yeah, that 'Southampton Shard' does look good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabrone Posted 12 March, 2013 Share Posted 12 March, 2013 I thought originally it was going to be an education centre or something of that ilk. Is that to educate us in the word of Cortese? It might look nice but will the seats be heated and will I get my prawn sandwiches served to me? Looks impressive if it ever gets built. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 12 March, 2013 Share Posted 12 March, 2013 It will probably have been relocated to a quiet corner, 'elf'n'safety, you couldn't just leave something like that stuck out front, someone might trip over it. Nice to have a vision tho...and yeah, that 'Southampton Shard' does look good. Or laugh so much that they walk into a lamppost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 12 March, 2013 Share Posted 12 March, 2013 Link to the architects are here... http://www.infinite3d.co.uk/3d-visualisations/sport/southampton-training-ground.html Seems to be a few others very similar... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 12 March, 2013 Share Posted 12 March, 2013 Aren't those exactly the same artists impressions that were on that DVD sent out with season tickets last summer? Some changes have been made to the design, the new ones are far more detailed and for the first time we see images of the development around the stadium which looks to be hotel, retail, offices, apartments etc to raise revenue streams. The original images... The new images... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 12 March, 2013 Share Posted 12 March, 2013 I don't like the monochrome Saints badge on the conference suite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 12 March, 2013 Share Posted 12 March, 2013 what is the brown wedge? Are all the businesses located down that neck of the woods leaving? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurzel Posted 12 March, 2013 Share Posted 12 March, 2013 what is the brown wedge? Are all the businesses located down that neck of the woods leaving? If Cortese says they're leaving .... then they're leaving ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpweySaint Posted 12 March, 2013 Share Posted 12 March, 2013 Interesting but such development needs a much wider scope then us. If we were to invest heavily I imagine council and private business would also need to invest. It could well happen and could make the waterfront more of a focal point bringing it that non matchday revenue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloridaMarlin Posted 12 March, 2013 Share Posted 12 March, 2013 I like the blocks of flats with holes in them. Very Miami Vice. Will we be required to turn up on matchday in silk jackets with the sleeves rolled back, pastel shade trousers, and Bass Weejun loafers or espadrilles with no socks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 12 March, 2013 Share Posted 12 March, 2013 Some changes have been made to the design, the new ones are far more detailed and for the first time we see images of the development around the stadium which looks to be hotel, retail, offices, apartments etc to raise revenue streams. The original images... The new images... What are you on? They are EXACTLY the same, there is nothing new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 12 March, 2013 Share Posted 12 March, 2013 Interesting but such development needs a much wider scope then us. If we were to invest heavily I imagine council and private business would also need to invest. It could well happen and could make the waterfront more of a focal point bringing it that non matchday revenue I would imagine that's the idea. The club doesn't own most of that land so it must be banking on the council wanting to revamp the area. Would probably rely on some compulsory purchase orders as well. Regenerates the area (which it needs), generates new revenue for both the council and club, new jobs. Plus just like Pompey a council supporting the local football club wins votes. Also clearly this has been worked on since the start of the season so some people are taking this seriously. The main issue for me though is access. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 12 March, 2013 Share Posted 12 March, 2013 (edited) What are you on? They are EXACTLY the same, there is nothing new. Look at the second image of the originals and compare with the first image of the new ones I posted. The stadium facade looks very different. We also didn't see any of the hotel, apartments, retail, offices etc in the old images. Edited 12 March, 2013 by Matthew Le God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 12 March, 2013 Share Posted 12 March, 2013 (edited) Some inconsistencies there. In the view of the main entrance (with the brown shoebox on the left) the Chapel roof is raised abover the Itchen but in the aerial view from the south-east only the Kingsland roof is raised. Edited 12 March, 2013 by Whitey Grandad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 12 March, 2013 Share Posted 12 March, 2013 What are you on? They are EXACTLY the same, there is nothing new. Ah okay, this one is different; http://imageshack.us/a/img600/4350/southamptontraining3dre.jpg I didn't look closely enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 12 March, 2013 Share Posted 12 March, 2013 Not sure I like the grey facade - should be white or red. But glad to see we'll be back in stripes again when it is built. Out of interest how many more fans will it hold? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 12 March, 2013 Share Posted 12 March, 2013 Anyone else noticed the fans are wearing red and white stripes (insert dramatic music here)? Is this just because it is what the architect whacked up or is there a hint towards the future? Or are we just at home to Stoke in these plans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpweySaint Posted 12 March, 2013 Share Posted 12 March, 2013 I would imagine that's the idea. The club doesn't own most of that land so it must be banking on the council wanting to revamp the area. Would probably rely on some compulsory purchase orders as well. Regenerates the area (which it needs), generates new revenue for both the council and club, new jobs. Plus just like Pompey a council supporting the local football club wins votes. Also clearly this has been worked on since the start of the season so some people are taking this seriously. The main issue for me though is access. Mm that's rather what I had in mind. If investment came from all quarters and there was a bit of genuine ambition something brilliant could happen for the football club and the city. I think the argument goes that if the place had enough draw to keep people coming from the local (i'm talking hampshire, somerset, dorset etc) area it could be an important part of the city and make the stadium more of a focal point then it currently is. Hopefully any investment on this level would encourage additional transport links as well to make the whole area more accessible. Be that maybe subsidised buses from the main station or even the talked about additional platform such issues could be overcame. As much as southampton has a fair ammount going on something like this could help it compete with the draw of London. Just look at gunwharf over in Portsmouth. Excellent use of available space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 12 March, 2013 Share Posted 12 March, 2013 Anyone else noticed the fans are wearing red and white stripes (insert dramatic music here)? Is this just because it is what the architect whacked up or is there a hint towards the future? Or are we just at home to Stoke in these plans? at least no-one is wearing jester hats or massive foam hands. I also notice they've done away with programme sellers. I spose in 2176 or whenever it's all gone digital. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 12 March, 2013 Share Posted 12 March, 2013 They are sold by the lap dancers that live in the big Jaw sandcruser. They found this to be a more successful way of selling them and brought in this system when we reached the champions league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 12 March, 2013 Share Posted 12 March, 2013 did you lol bout earlier in this thread when you mentioned sandpeople and dubai assumed you meant him & eric? That was v.good from dubai i thought. Spudders needs to give him +2 reputations points. On topics does anyone reckon ticket prices would double for fancy new stadium, like with Arsenal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 12 March, 2013 Share Posted 12 March, 2013 Dubai Phil - he is easily startled but soon returns in greater numbers and with more golf stories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 12 March, 2013 Share Posted 12 March, 2013 not going to happen imo, just pie in the sky nonesense You mean like this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junction 9 Posted 12 March, 2013 Share Posted 12 March, 2013 Am I right in saying that is forum about sky scrapers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 12 March, 2013 Share Posted 12 March, 2013 You mean like this? One thing we have over that lot, at least our Stadium proposals can feature a full sized pitch! (And not resemble a sh*t hole, although based on their love for Fratton Park, give the public what they want!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lloydie Posted 12 March, 2013 Share Posted 12 March, 2013 What are you on? They are EXACTLY the same, there is nothing new. If you can't notice the increase in detail on pic 4 from pic 2 you need to visit an optician. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lloydie Posted 12 March, 2013 Share Posted 12 March, 2013 I did not notice your later observation so i duely retract my previous post kind sir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 12 March, 2013 Share Posted 12 March, 2013 Not getting to excited, seen plans for Stoneham, West Quay and Test Park in my life time, also ones to buy houses behind the East Stand at The Dell, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lloydie Posted 12 March, 2013 Share Posted 12 March, 2013 I think one thing many people are jumping to conclusions about so far, but not neccessarily limited to, are: *red and white stripes making a comeback. *no ted bates statue. *that anyone really knows the capacity yet.(id imagin... a possible premature conclusion of my own) This seems purely to be a mock up of 'wants' that the club want to have for a purely architectural viewpoint. Anyone looking into stuff like the statue or kit from this and drawing conclusions are probably asking a bit much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlakeySFC Posted 12 March, 2013 Share Posted 12 March, 2013 Love the pics and they're amazing but I can't see Cortese continuing the Stadium Expansion development when we go down unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 12 March, 2013 Share Posted 12 March, 2013 They're just mock ups done by one company. I'm sure lots of designs have been made but the company are probably using it for publicity more than anything. I don't doubt that Cortese has his ambitions set pretty high and he has definitely looked into an expansion, but that is some way off just yet. Anyone remember this??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 12 March, 2013 Share Posted 12 March, 2013 Love the pics and they're amazing but I can't see Cortese continuing the Stadium Expansion development when we go down unfortunately. The training ground planning application went in when Saints were in League One, construction started when in the Championship and will be finished this summer. Saints didn't need a training ground like they will have in League One or the Championship. These plans for the stadium are for the long term benefit of the club and more than just adding capacity to the stadium, they are about increasing revenue streams for the club in other areas. They're just mock ups done by one company. I'm sure lots of designs have been made but the company are probably using it for publicity more than anything. I don't doubt that Cortese has his ambitions set pretty high and he has definitely looked into an expansion, but that is some way off just yet. Anyone remember this??? Unlike Pompey owners of the past decade, Cortese/Liebherr have a strong record of delivering on their projects. I doubt this is a pipe dream and think Cortese has every intention of seeing it through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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