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  • Boruc was phenomenal - he saved us the game
  • We should have won that game
  • It was not a penalty, now looking at it on the screens it shows me it is never a penalty at all
  • The ball was heading out
  • We should have had a penalty for a Luke Shaw being fouled at the other end I feel
  • Today we regained our fighting spirit that was missing against QPR
  • When the team has that spirit, we play a lot better and did play well today
  • I think we are on the right path, but we really need to be more clinical
  • The attackers aren't finishing enough right now
  • I think Lambert and Rodriguez have characteristics that compliment eachother, and they have a good future together
  • We have to focus on our own games, we have to win and get results
  • QPR, Aston Villa and Reading have to win their games too to get in front of us
  • But we need to start scoring more and winning more games

Posted

  • Boruc was phenomenal - he saved us the game
  • We should have won that game
  • It was not a penalty, now looking at it on the screens it shows me it is never a penalty at all
  • The ball was heading out
  • We should have had a penalty for a Luke Shaw being fouled at the other end I feel
  • Today we regained our fighting spirit that was missing against QPR
  • When the team has that spirit, we play a lot better and did play well today
  • I think we are on the right path, but we really need to be more clinical
  • The attackers aren't finishing enough right now
  • I think Lambert and Rodriguez have characteristics that compliment eachother, and they have a good future together
  • We have to focus on our own games, we have to win and get results
  • QPR, Aston Villa and Reading have to win their games too to get in front of us
  • But we need to start scoring more and winning more games

Not much to argue with there.

Posted
  • Boruc was phenomenal - he saved us the game
  • We should have won that game
  • It was not a penalty, now looking at it on the screens it shows me it is never a penalty at all
  • The ball was heading out
  • We should have had a penalty for a Luke Shaw being fouled at the other end I feel
  • Today we regained our fighting spirit that was missing against QPR
  • When the team has that spirit, we play a lot better and did play well today
  • I think we are on the right path, but we really need to be more clinical
  • The attackers aren't finishing enough right now
  • I think Lambert and Rodriguez have characteristics that compliment eachother, and they have a good future together
  • We have to focus on our own games, we have to win and get results
  • QPR, Aston Villa and Reading have to win their games too to get in front of us
  • But we need to start scoring more and winning more games

 

Good succinct summary

Posted
  • Boruc was phenomenal - he saved us the game
  • We should have won that game
  • It was not a penalty, now looking at it on the screens it shows me it is never a penalty at all
  • The ball was heading out
  • We should have had a penalty for a Luke Shaw being fouled at the other end I feel
  • Today we regained our fighting spirit that was missing against QPR
  • When the team has that spirit, we play a lot better and did play well today
  • I think we are on the right path, but we really need to be more clinical
  • The attackers aren't finishing enough right now
  • I think Lambert and Rodriguez have characteristics that compliment eachother, and they have a good future together
  • We have to focus on our own games, we have to win and get results
  • QPR, Aston Villa and Reading have to win their games too to get in front of us
  • But we need to start scoring more and winning more games

 

Not bad for a man who needs an interpretrer

Posted
Not much to argue with there.

 

Actually, there is IMO.

 

"Luke Shaw foul". I assume by Snodgrass. Clearly outside the area, and barely any contact (though I think it was just enough for a foul, but not to go to ground).

"The ball was heading out". Utterly irrelevant to whether it was a foul inside the area or not.

"Lambert and Rodriguez together". I actually couldn't disagree more.

 

And Boruc made an amazing save, really hats off there. But he had little else to do all game; had we lost that game there would be some serious finger-pointing going on right now. Lallana poor, Ramirez poor, our most productive midfielder kept on the bench for all but 5 minutes.

Posted
  • Boruc was phenomenal - he saved us the game
  • We should have won that game
  • It was not a penalty, now looking at it on the screens it shows me it is never a penalty at all
  • The ball was heading out
  • We should have had a penalty for a Luke Shaw being fouled at the other end I feel
  • Today we regained our fighting spirit that was missing against QPR
  • When the team has that spirit, we play a lot better and did play well today
  • I think we are on the right path, but we really need to be more clinical
  • The attackers aren't finishing enough right now
  • I think Lambert and Rodriguez have characteristics that compliment eachother, and they have a good future together
  • We have to focus on our own games, we have to win and get results
  • QPR, Aston Villa and Reading have to win their games too to get in front of us
  • But we need to start scoring more and winning more games

 

 

If we had a striker like Suarez or even Loic Remy we would be top half by now. Lambert is too much of a workhorse, does great work but as Lallana cannot score easy goals his work will always go to waste. I'd personally turf Lallana right out of it, put SRL in his place and let JRod be the front man.

Posted
Actually, there is IMO.

 

"Luke Shaw foul". I assume by Snodgrass. Clearly outside the area, and barely any contact (though I think it was just enough for a foul, but not to go to ground).

"The ball was heading out". Utterly irrelevant to whether it was a foul inside the area or not.

"Lambert and Rodriguez together". I actually couldn't disagree more.

 

And Boruc made an amazing save, really hats off there. But he had little else to do all game; had we lost that game there would be some serious finger-pointing going on right now. Lallana poor, Ramirez poor, our most productive midfielder kept on the bench for all but 5 minutes.

If there's one thing I'll give this guy credit for, it's how he improved Jayrod. Don't get me wrong he's still worth nowhere near £7m, but he's gone from being p*ss-poor under Adkins to being merely mediocre/average under MP.

Posted
If there's one thing I'll give this guy credit for, it's how he improved Jayrod. Don't get me wrong he's still worth nowhere near £7m, but he's gone from being p*ss-poor under Adkins to being merely mediocre/average under MP.

You see, I'm just not seeing it. I thought he was laboured today, ineffectual in front of goal, and I thought he blunted our attack overall.

Posted
Yes, of course, but then you would argue that black was white.

 

Clearly I wouldn't, but for someone who only thinks in such extremes I can see why you're so easily confused.

Posted
You see, I'm just not seeing it. I thought he was laboured today, ineffectual in front of goal, and I thought he blunted our attack overall.

I never said he was great today, just generally over the past several games he's gone from being a league one forward under Adkins to being a championship forward under MP. Still not prem level and I'm not convinced he ever will be. Why we got rid of Billy to replace him with this dross and lose £7m in the process is beyond me.

Posted
I never said he was great today, just generally over the past several games he's gone from being a league one forward under Adkins to being a championship forward under MP. Still not prem level and I'm not convinced he ever will be. Why we got rid of Billy to replace him with this dross and lose £7m in the process is beyond me.

 

He's got better, I'll obviously agree with that (though it was a fairly low benchmark to begin with). I agree with the rest of your assessment though; £7M plus the £12M for Ramirez was rather wasted IMO. But there we go.

Posted
He's got better, I'll obviously agree with that (though it was a fairly low benchmark to begin with). I agree with the rest of your assessment though; £7M plus the £12M for Ramirez was rather wasted IMO. But there we go.

To think we could of signed Cazorla + Michu + Jelavic for that exact sum. :facepalm:

Posted
I was never good at maths but 12 + 2 + 5 = 12 + 7 = 19 no?

 

Only the slightest of problem......convincing those players to go to a newcomer in the league on (at least för Cazorla and Jelavic) lower wages than what they get now......

Posted
Only the slightest of problem......convincing those players to go to a newcomer in the league on (at least för Cazorla and Jelavic) lower wages than what they get now......

 

Kind of the point I was making, along with the issue of singing on fees, wages, bonus payments etc. the simple 'we could have bought x instead for the same amount (or in 110 per saints case x +y+ z)' is, and always will be b0llocks.

Posted
Ramirez was decent today, especially first half.

 

Boggy pitch negated him and AL as the game went on.

 

HA! Except he can't pass, tackle, run, or shoot. Apart from that though, yeah, legend.

Posted
HA! Except he can't pass, tackle, run, or shoot. Apart from that though, yeah, legend.

 

Nearly scored, and showed some good touches. One or two flicks/clever passes which didn't come off because he was clearly far quicker of thought than the receiver.

 

This guy is good, and will become superb.

 

My frustration with him is lack of fitness; does seem to tire badly after 60 mins.

Posted
Ramirez was decent today, especially first half.

 

Boggy pitch negated him and AL as the game went on.

 

Yes. Bless our players for not being able to string a pass together on a terrible pitch. It shouldn't be allowed, really. Our artisans should only be allowed to show their grace on bowling green type pitches. Shame on the Premier League for allowing today's farce to go ahead and make our experts look so average; it's just not on.

Posted
Yes. Bless our players for not being able to string a pass together on a terrible pitch. It shouldn't be allowed, really. Our artisans should only be allowed to show their grace on bowling green type pitches. Shame on the Premier League for allowing today's farce to go ahead and make our experts look so average; it's just not on.

 

You´re saying we didn´t do that?

Posted
You're making zero sense now.

 

I can put it this way.

There was one team passing the ball around better than the other, both in total amount of passes and in accuracy...

 

Small hint.....it was not Norwich.

Posted
I can put it this way.

There was one team passing the ball around better than the other, both in total amount of passes and in accuracy...

 

Small hint.....it was not Norwich.

 

I know there was. What on earth point are you trying to make?

Posted
I know there was. What on earth point are you trying to make?

 

Then I apologise, my english probably decieves me.

Thought you were slating the team that we didn´t in your comment to Charlie.

Posted
Actually, there is IMO.

 

"Luke Shaw foul". I assume by Snodgrass. Clearly outside the area, and barely any contact (though I think it was just enough for a foul, but not to go to ground).

"The ball was heading out". Utterly irrelevant to whether it was a foul inside the area or not.

"Lambert and Rodriguez together". I actually couldn't disagree more.

 

And Boruc made an amazing save, really hats off there. But he had little else to do all game; had we lost that game there would be some serious finger-pointing going on right now. Lallana poor, Ramirez poor, our most productive midfielder kept on the bench for all but 5 minutes.

 

Disagree with the boruc statement

He collected everything that was crossed bar some corners

Let face it at the beginning of the season we were begging for a keeper to do that

( sorry super KD)

Posted
Then I apologise, my english probably decieves me.

Thought you were slating the team that we didn´t in your comment to Charlie.

 

You definitely missed the point, apology accepted. My point was: even if the pitch was sh*t, it's no excuse for the various misplaced passes and averageness we saw from some of our players (Lallana and Ramirez especially). And player in the 70s and 80s would have dreamed of playing on a pitch as good as today. Rarely heard them complaining about lack of fatigue and misplaced passes.

Posted
Disagree with the boruc statement

He collected everything that was crossed bar some corners

Let face it at the beginning of the season we were begging for a keeper to do that

( sorry super KD)

 

He was very confident all game and very commanding of his area. Makes it so much easier for the CB's when your keeper constantly takes control as he did today.

 

Sign him up.

Posted
You definitely missed the point, apology accepted. My point was: even if the pitch was sh*t, it's no excuse for the various misplaced passes and averageness we saw from some of our players (Lallana and Ramirez especially). And player in the 70s and 80s would have dreamed of playing on a pitch as good as today. Rarely heard them complaining about lack of fatigue and misplaced passes.

 

Agree entirely. It might be a reason why passes are misplaced but never an acceptable excuse I think.

Posted
Nearly scored, and showed some good touches. One or two flicks/clever passes which didn't come off because he was clearly far quicker of thought than the receiver.

 

This guy is good, and will become superb.

 

My frustration with him is lack of fitness; does seem to tire badly after 60 mins.

 

This.

Posted
He was very confident all game and very commanding of his area. Makes it so much easier for the CB's when your keeper constantly takes control as he did today.

 

Sign him up.

 

This, he's been excellent and looks good for another 2-3 seasons i would think, how old is he, guessing 34-ish?

Posted
You definitely missed the point, apology accepted. My point was: even if the pitch was sh*t, it's no excuse for the various misplaced passes and averageness we saw from some of our players (Lallana and Ramirez especially). And player in the 70s and 80s would have dreamed of playing on a pitch as good as today. Rarely heard them complaining about lack of fatigue and misplaced passes.

 

Lallana and Ramirez were well below average ... We only created 15 chances today. Our creative payers need to get a grip. Or maybe it's the lunatic fans that do ...

Posted
Lallana and Ramirez were well below average ... We only created 15 chances today. Our creative payers need to get a grip. Or maybe it's the lunatic fans that do ...

 

Sorry, are you suggesting they both played really well? Just so I know; I can't work it out.

 

If Gaston played really well, why was he (according to the commentators I watched) rightly taken off? Why did the radio summary I heard say he played "poorly"? Did MP make an error here? If Ramirez and Lallana massively contributed to setting up 15 chances, the manager must be wrong and so must the commentators for criticising Ramirez's performance? Surely?

 

If you could clarify that, that would be great. I though Ramirez was well below par and so was Lallana; but I'd be happy to to hear the other point of view of how they actually played brilliantly, and I'm just too stupid to appreciate it.

Posted
Sorry, are you suggesting they both played really well? Just so I know; I can't work it out.

 

If Gaston played really well, why was he (according to the commentators I watched) rightly taken off? Why did the radio summary I heard say he played "poorly"? Did MP make an error here? If Ramirez and Lallana massively contributed to setting up 15 chances, the manager must be wrong and so must the commentators for criticising Ramirez's performance? Surely?

 

If you could clarify that, that would be great. I though Ramirez was well below par and so was Lallana; but I'd be happy to to hear the other point of view of how they actually played brilliantly, and I'm just too stupid to appreciate it.[/QUOT

They played perfectly well, helping to contribute to 15 chances. They might have been below par ... If par is barca or the garlicticos of Madrid. For a mid level premier side they were fine. Not great, but not sh1 t as you suggest.

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