Dazza82 Posted 9 March, 2013 Share Posted 9 March, 2013 2 points dropped if only we could take our chances, Still another point on the board Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
student Posted 9 March, 2013 Share Posted 9 March, 2013 6 winnable games left for you and I think you only need to win 4 out of the remaining 9 or 3 wins and 2 draws. I think you'll probably win 3 and then maybe cause an upset somewhere along the way. Still think you'll see it out unless one of Villa or QPR go on an incredible run Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 9 March, 2013 Share Posted 9 March, 2013 I thought it was a much improved performance from last week to be fair. The side looks so much more comfortable in defence without Fox. Norwich didn't get anything past them. Just infuriating that we wasted so many glorious chances up front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 9 March, 2013 Share Posted 9 March, 2013 FFS that was EXCRUCIATING! I may have topped myself if the penalty had gone in. Why can't we put chances away? Why? Why? Someone explain please. When the shots at goal diagram was displayed all 7 of our shots were straight at the centre of the goal There you go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAY-Z Posted 9 March, 2013 Share Posted 9 March, 2013 We've never really had a problem scoring over the course of the season, we're starting to look worryingly ineffective though. Deep deep in the mire when we should be pulling away. Decision isn't being justified. I think the biggest reason for this is we hardly ever get the ball to the byline - whenever we have the ball put wide we always cut inside so defenders know they only have to defend the 18 yard box do can stay compact and don't get spread out enough to create space for the forwards, or and variety in cross angles for defenders to deal with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 9 March, 2013 Share Posted 9 March, 2013 We are where we are because we deserve to be, down the bottom as we dont have good enough players, the question is why when smaller clubs without our supposed money not only survive but also flourish and also pick up silverware as well. so, if we stay up, even if it is 17th, is that not success in our first season in the prem? Good point today, had the chances to win it, need to be more ruthless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WGC Saint Posted 9 March, 2013 Share Posted 9 March, 2013 That was never a pen as the fat ***** fouled Shaw prior to that anyway! Great save Boruc. On such incidents seasons turn. Let's hope that's the catalyst for some improvement in the coming weeks. I too fancy us to get something out of both Liverpool and Chelski...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 9 March, 2013 Share Posted 9 March, 2013 Glad to get a point at the end. Boruc is my hero. Not sure what was worse the ref or the weather. Last few games we just hav'nt looked like we are going to score, despite having loads of possesion. I'm looking forward to seeing he Liverpool match next week, where we will need to get some points. Thought JRod had another cracking game. I'm a big fan of Jay, but he was poor today. Static and a lack of movement, offered nothing other than some wild unctrolled shots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 9 March, 2013 Share Posted 9 March, 2013 Played well, dominated, couldn't score, story of our season really. Shocking finishing and of all the eight shots we had on target they all bar one went in the centre of the goal according to stream stats. Spider motm & what puzzles me is the penalty took over 3 minutes to sort out and yet the ref blew up on 93 mins 17 seconds, why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 9 March, 2013 Share Posted 9 March, 2013 Good performance to go there and really make Norwich look real poor. If only we could shoot......thought everyone put in a shift today, GR included - conditions weren't the best 2nd half and it showed as both teams grinded to a halt until fatty dived at the end. Bring on Liverpool - we can do them at SMS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhari Posted 9 March, 2013 Share Posted 9 March, 2013 We did enough to win that. On another day Gastons lob goes in, J-Rod scores at least 1, AL scores into an empty net......OR, Yoshida scores an own goal and we concede a last gasp penalty. So can't complain about a point really. AL is not ht eplayer he was though. And some strange subs today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 9 March, 2013 Share Posted 9 March, 2013 Shocking finishing and of all the eight shots we had on target they all bar one went in the centre of the goal according to stream stats. Spider motm & what puzzles me is the penalty took over 3 minutes to sort out and yet the ref blew up on 93 mins 17 seconds, why? Think he was cold and wanted to get inside for a cuppa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 9 March, 2013 Share Posted 9 March, 2013 Shocking finishing and of all the eight shots we had on target they all bar one went in the centre of the goal according to stream stats. Spider motm & what puzzles me is the penalty took over 3 minutes to sort out and yet the ref blew up on 93 mins 17 seconds, why? I guess Clattenburg had had enough of the Norfolk spring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 9 March, 2013 Share Posted 9 March, 2013 Other than one season in div 1 Lallana has been a pants finisher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 9 March, 2013 Share Posted 9 March, 2013 I'm a big fan of Jay, but he was poor today. Static and a lack of movement, offered nothing other than some wild unctrolled shots. he is the only player we got that gets to the byline, which on another day could of got us a goal or two. not sure he was poor today, just lacked a bit of composure when finished. Rest of his game was ok at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thornhill_saints Posted 9 March, 2013 Share Posted 9 March, 2013 Norwich were ****!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
110_Persaint Posted 9 March, 2013 Share Posted 9 March, 2013 Bring on Liverpool - we can do them at SMS. How exactly did today's performance fill you with enough confidence to say that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max_saints Posted 9 March, 2013 Share Posted 9 March, 2013 don't see how anyone can argue the penalty call, clear push from shaw. if that were fox this forum would have gone into meltdown. poor poor finishing from both sides exemplified by holts penalty miss. draw was a fair result between two very poor teams in sh!t weather. and I think most of us are running out of patience for ramirez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studentsaint Posted 9 March, 2013 Share Posted 9 March, 2013 Quality Boruc but the possession and shot stats show we dominated them. If we go down we won't look back on one game but all of them? Most points dropped from winning positions, should have won so many games but we are the least clinical side in the league. 2 saving tackles from yoshida, instinct of a cb playing at th but poor going forward. What foes punch have to do to put Ramirez out of the side he is useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 9 March, 2013 Share Posted 9 March, 2013 We made Norwich look very poor, had to rely on some last ditch action from Yoshida and Jos to ensure we didn't pay dearly for profligate finishing. Boruc the hero at the end, justly saving an undesevered Norwich Penalty. A very good point to get, but it could have been so much better, and that is the key point of contention. Our play today was good but we couldn't have scored in a pre-paid brothel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 9 March, 2013 Share Posted 9 March, 2013 The rent boys bleating about the penalty are so bias, what about the Rodriguez one in the Villa game? What goes around comes around and we got lucky that Boruc saved it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 9 March, 2013 Share Posted 9 March, 2013 On the subject of the refereeing though, about a minute before the penalty there was the clearest foul you could imagine on Yoshi right down in the Norwich corner, right in front of the Lino - yet he flagged for a goal kick. FWIW, I do think there was a slight push from Shaw inside the box but Holt was running away from the goal and went over far too easily. Can see why it was given but if that was Man U it would never have been, you can guarantee it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Tony Posted 9 March, 2013 Share Posted 9 March, 2013 Absolute embarassment, Norwich are so, so poor and we are even worse, a point simply isn't enough. Now watch us go beat Liverpool.. Sent from my HTC One S using Tapatalk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 9 March, 2013 Share Posted 9 March, 2013 We made Norwich look very poor, had to rely on some last ditch action from Yoshida and Jos to ensure we didn't pay dearly for profligate finishing. Boruc the hero at the end, justly saving an undesevered Norwich Penalty. A very good point to get, but it could have been so much better, and that is the key point of contention. Our play today was good but we couldn't have scored in a pre-paid brothel. Your first paragraph contradicts itself completely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintalan Posted 9 March, 2013 Share Posted 9 March, 2013 two points lost could have been three but for Boruc! wins by Villa and QPR mean we are now really scrapping! Agreed but whatever folk say about Yoshida his 2 interceptions in the 6yd box saved us too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 9 March, 2013 Share Posted 9 March, 2013 Looked totally lost upfront despite numerous chances straight at their keeper every time, can't help feeling we'd be no worse off under Adkins we are certainly no better Agreed. Bizarre choices today too; Clyne and Puncheon fit enough for the bench but not a run out. Lallana poor throughout but no change, Ramirez should have been taken off far earlier, he's just a wet fanny and a football pitch is no place for a wet fanny (as he's amply demonstrated on more than one occasion this season). Yoshida isnt a right back, and bringing on Guly and JWP towards the end spoke volumes for me. Dominated posession quite well and thank God for the holy goalie, he got Luke Shaw out of jail; not sure what all the remonstrations were about, it was a foul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen Posted 9 March, 2013 Share Posted 9 March, 2013 It's odd that some people are saying that we should have won because Norwich were so poor. I think Norwich were poor because we made them look that way. They are above us in the league and the bookies, and probably most of us, had them favourites to win. That they didn't is testimony to the way we outplayed them for most of the game in atrocious conditions. Having said that, I don't know what's happened to our forwards. It used to be that we'd worry about the defence but could be confident that the forwards could outscore the opposition. Still, a point gained rather than 3 points lost, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 9 March, 2013 Share Posted 9 March, 2013 don't see how anyone can argue the penalty call, clear push from shaw. if that were fox this forum would have gone into meltdown. poor poor finishing from both sides exemplified by holts penalty miss. draw was a fair result between two very poor teams in sh!t weather. and I think most of us are running out of patience for ramirez Actually that was the most effective I have seen him play away from home yet - in the first half anyway. The weather obviously got the better of him in the second half though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 9 March, 2013 Share Posted 9 March, 2013 Absolute embarassment, Norwich are so, so poor and we are even worse, a point simply isn't enough. Now watch us go beat Liverpool.. Sent from my HTC One S using Tapatalk 2 A slightly OTT reaction right there! It was generally an awful game, but it wasn't en embarrassment was it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 9 March, 2013 Share Posted 9 March, 2013 (edited) Played well but couldn't score. Lallana was poor and shouldn't have started. Gaston stood out first half, but needs to work on his corners, atrocious on the whole today., and tired in the second half despite having a few decent moments. Much better than he has been away from home recently. Cork and Schneiderlin both fantastic again. Not sure whats happened up front. We hadn't had a 0-0 since we were in L1 and under Pochettino we've had 2. Lambert was ok, but didn't ever really look like scoring. Been poor since Lallana came back in and took the armband off him. J-Rod worked his balls off and had some good runs but didn't really look like scoring. Didn't think Hooiveld played particularly well and thought we missed Clyne. Yoshi covered well but he's just not a full back. Edited 9 March, 2013 by Saint Garrett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
los_saint Posted 9 March, 2013 Share Posted 9 March, 2013 Our negative subs in the last 10 very nearly cost us. Invited pressure when we were on top. Villa win, QPR win. Gap closes Wrong. At the start of the day we were 3 points off the drop zone and now we're 4 off the drop zone. Keep up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 9 March, 2013 Share Posted 9 March, 2013 Played well but couldn't score. Lallana was poor and shouldn't have started. Gaston stood out first half, but needs to work on his corners, atrocious on the whole today. Cork and Schneiderlin both fantastic again. Not sure whats happened up front. We hadn't had a 0-0 since we were in L1 and under Pochettino we've had 2. Lambert was ok, but didn't ever really look like scoring. Been poor since Lallana came back in and took the armband off him. J-Rod worked his balls off and had some good runs but didn't really look like scoring. Didn't think Hooiveld played particularly well and thought we missed Clyne. Yoshi covered well but he's just not a full back. On the contrary, I thought Jos played pretty well actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 9 March, 2013 Share Posted 9 March, 2013 Wrong. At the start of the day we were 3 points off the drop zone and now we're 4 off the drop zone. Keep up. Thanks to Wigan not playing. Hopefully the cup will be a massive distraction for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomobz Posted 9 March, 2013 Share Posted 9 March, 2013 I'm worried about Lambert becoming so ineffective. That was my main concern when we lost Adkins and sadly it's slowly becoming reality... We might need to go striker hunting in the summer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stknowle Posted 9 March, 2013 Share Posted 9 March, 2013 Yep... phew. But we deserved to win. Bad day for results around us. We needed 3 points today. Liverpool and Chelsea to come. 1 point out of a possible 9 IMHO and I can't see us contending for another point for two more games. Not looking good for MP. Not looking good at all. Still at least we have Nigel Adkins on the payroll still for the Championship if it goes wrong! The thing is we didn't deserve to. We should have won, but because we didn't create much despite all the possession, and because when we did create we missed, we didn't deserve to win. This would be ok if it wasn't happening every week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Kucho Posted 9 March, 2013 Share Posted 9 March, 2013 Clattenburg is a rubbish ref, he had a shocker in the home game against Norwich and his decision making was poor again today. We played a decent game, but nothing more. Have to say the matchday thread was depressing with certain posters trolling all through game. That brings me to another point, this place is becoming more depressing by the week. I read the forum as I don't live local and like to read reports from people who have been to the games (and some posts some good reports with interesting views) and who have heard news about the club that doesn't get put on the OS. However some (Barry Sanchez, Miltonroader, Dalek, 110 Saint etc) seem to think they have to post their ridiculous comments over and over again until someone reacts to them. Putting them on ignore solves only half the problem as others will quote them. Rant over. Back on topic, Pleased with point we gained, thought we could of had more, but it wasn't to be today. Chelsea and Liverpool next and I can see us getting something from those 2 games, we play better against top clubs than we do against our rivals. COYRs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 9 March, 2013 Share Posted 9 March, 2013 Guly was slated by some on here for his miss vs Stoke, according to the Guly haters it cost us the win so did Lallana's terrible miss today cost us the win? Awful miss from him but not surprising. He has always been overrated here and I didn't even notice him on the pitch until that miss. And how poor are Ramirez's corners? Can we ensure that he is never on corner duty again? Another unspectacular performance from our £12 million man. It isn't a good point, regardless of what happened at the end. Norwich were poor and were there for the taking but we didn't take advantage. Liverpool and Chelsea up next at home.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hans gruber Posted 9 March, 2013 Share Posted 9 March, 2013 Clattenburg is an utter c*nt. That was an appalling decision. Hats off to Boruc, tho. if someone said to me explain the referee 25 words or less. this is it.... closer to a gold mdal winning dive than a penalty..... we needed to do better with our chances. nice save by boruc though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tractor_Saint Posted 9 March, 2013 Share Posted 9 March, 2013 Was it a penalty? Watch the linesman... [video=youtube;jvFWYN5z-a4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvFWYN5z-a4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
110_Persaint Posted 9 March, 2013 Share Posted 9 March, 2013 Never a pen but immaterial now so who cares. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 9 March, 2013 Share Posted 9 March, 2013 I'm a big fan of Jay, but he was poor today. Static and a lack of movement, offered nothing other than some wild unctrolled shots. he bombed it down the line and got a cross in a couple of times i thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tractor_Saint Posted 9 March, 2013 Share Posted 9 March, 2013 And the Boruc save close up... [video=youtube_share;We7qtl2yxoQ]http://youtu.be/We7qtl2yxoQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 9 March, 2013 Share Posted 9 March, 2013 he bombed it down the line and got a cross in a couple of times i thought. Very difficult for him to use his pace against defenders in such awful conditions today. That has been his best attribute recently so it's no surprise he wasn't as effective today. Needs to work on his shooting though - as does Lallana. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 9 March, 2013 Share Posted 9 March, 2013 And the Boruc save close up... [video=youtube_share;We7qtl2yxoQ]http://youtu.be/We7qtl2yxoQ Good power but good height! We got lucky today Thank fook for Boruc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Jonny Posted 9 March, 2013 Share Posted 9 March, 2013 Well done Boruc, saved the day / evening. Confident we'll kick on and start to take our chances, we'll win at least one of the next two, I'm certain of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 9 March, 2013 Share Posted 9 March, 2013 Never a pen but immaterial now so who cares. 110 persaint a penalty I'm afraid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suomi Saint Posted 9 March, 2013 Share Posted 9 March, 2013 Looking at it objectively, Saints dominated the game and made Norwich look poor. The only thing missing was the end product. Our players just haven't got the quality in front of goal. Clearly, the conditions were awful, and, equally, so was the referee. That was never a penalty in a million years, and MP told him that very politely it would seem. But of course, we are still deep in the mire. Even QPR are catching up. It's going to be squeaky bum time. But, the performance today was good in my opinion, and we should take some encouragement from that. Even Ramirez got his finger out, but Guly was pretty anonymous unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOSaint Posted 9 March, 2013 Share Posted 9 March, 2013 The problem with our attack is that our top goalscorer is too easily forced deep or wide to get the ball and as a result spends too much time with his back to goal. All our other attacking players have some combination of poor finishing & poor delivery and often spend too much time faffing about with the ball around the edge of the area allowing opposition defences to organise themselves. If we do stay up, our attacking options are going to need a serious review if we genuinely want to push further up the table next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 9 March, 2013 Share Posted 9 March, 2013 Least Sunderland are now in the mix as well.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thornhill_saints Posted 9 March, 2013 Share Posted 9 March, 2013 Yep Maya needs to learn how to pass the ball! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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