Back passing to keeper, why Saints ?

[Saints Warrior]

I fail to see the benifit of Saints consistantly passing back to our less than safe pair of hands between the sticks. Are the players not told that own goals don't count ?

[Appy]

To keep the ball?

[Andre]

1. Boruc is a safe pair of hands between the sticks these days; and

2. It's something that almost every team does, it just means we're out of ideas (which, yes, needs to change).

[110_Persaint]

It's MP's horrendous tactics - keep the ball at all costs, tiki-taka in the first third of the pitch rather than take a chance by playing through-balls or punting it up towards Rickie. Have had it up to here with this numpty and am running out of patience with him.

[Huffton]

Safe hands? You can't pick up a back pass...

[DrZuess1979 the 2nd]

It's MP's horrendous tactics - keep the ball at all costs, tiki-taka in the first third of the pitch rather than take a chance by playing through-balls or punting it up towards Rickie. Have had it up to here with this numpty and am running out of patience with him.

Punting it up to Rickie ? Whist he s being man marked by Samba !!!

[trousers]

It's MP's horrendous tactics - keep the ball at all costs, tiki-taka in the first third of the pitch rather than take a chance by playing through-balls or punting it up towards Rickie. Have had it up to here with this numpty and am running out of patience with him.

 

:lol:

[Graffito]

To keep the ball?

 

Correct. It's an important part of how we play. A keeper with good distribution is like an extra outfield player. Reina does it very well for Liverpool.

[GAS]

Have there been any own goals? Surely the keeper is in the modern game an important player and not just a keeper. Boruc is very comfortable and confident kicking with the left and the right. So why not use his distribution?

[the saint in winchester]

Too much tippy tappy and crop circle running, passing it back and playing in triangles. Reminded me of the days of the dutch fellas - no penetration or attack on goal.

No, this wasn't the day for diagonal balls for Lambert to get outjumped by Samba, but it would have been the perfect game for Mayuka to take it and run at them. Another player who clearly has been brought in for non-footballing reasons.

[Tokyo-Saint]

It's MP's horrendous tactics - keep the ball at all costs, tiki-taka in the first third of the pitch rather than take a chance by playing through-balls or punting it up towards Rickie. Have had it up to here with this numpty and am running out of patience with him.

 

Nice trolling! See after some early doubts, you are actually ok at this.

[CB Saint]

It's MP's horrendous tactics - keep the ball at all costs, tiki-taka in the first third of the pitch rather than take a chance by playing through-balls or punting it up towards Rickie. Have had it up to here with this numpty and am running out of patience with him.

 

Here's your problem, when you post stuff like this, no one takes any of your other posts seriously even if what your saying is valid. HTH.

[Saint Without a Halo]

It's MP's horrendous tactics - keep the ball at all costs, tiki-taka in the first third of the pitch rather than take a chance by playing through-balls or punting it up towards Rickie. Have had it up to here with this numpty and am running out of patience with him.

 

ERR one of the problems yesterday was a lack of creativity in the final pass and the fact we could do little else than lump it forward to a Rickie who was well marshalled by that tall lump of lard Samba! resulting in bags of possession and no end product. This is where our only really creative midfielder, Lallana was missed 2nd half!

[110_Persaint]

Here's your problem, when you post stuff like this, no one takes any of your other posts seriously even if what your saying is valid. HTH.

Here's the problem, if no one else on here has the balls to criticize our new messiah, I'll stand up to the plate. We would not have lost yesterday under Adkins. HTH.

[trousers]

Here's the problem, if no one else on here has the balls to criticize our new messiah, I'll stand up to the plate. We would not have lost yesterday under Adkins. HTH.

 

:lol:

[for_heaven's_Saint]

Here's the problem, if no one else on here has the balls to criticize our new messiah, I'll stand up to the plate. We would not have lost yesterday under Adkins. HTH.

 

You're so brave. Thanks for being the voice of the fans.

[beatlesaint]

We did it a lot under NA and we still do it a lot under MP.

Problem is half the defence aint very bloody good at it and are more likely to under hit the ball as anything the keeper might do wrong.

Step forward Jose in particular for this particular fault.

[norwaysaint]

I understand the arguments, but I did actually find it frustrating how much it happened from potentially attacking positions on Saturday. There were times we were in a position to put a decent ball in, or run at a player from just outside the box, when instead we started a series of increasingly defensive passes that ended up back at the keeper, then got passed out only to end up giving the ball away far closer to our goal than the whole move had started out.

[red&white56]

I understand the arguments, but I did actually find it frustrating how much it happened from potentially attacking positions on Saturday. There were times we were in a position to put a decent ball in, or run at a player from just outside the box, when instead we started a series of increasingly defensive passes that ended up back at the keeper, then got passed out only to end up giving the ball away far closer to our goal than the whole move had started out.

 

I share your concern, we had nobody running off the shoulder of he last defender looking for the through ball. Too often the ball went wide and instead of running down the line, the ball was passed back giving Rangers all the time in the world to get organised. I wasn't that bothered when Lallana went off and I though J-Rod would give us somebdy who would run at their defence.

[SaintSarah]

Yes but did you see the qpr players hanging all around the box like vultures when we had a goalkick, they had done their homework and made short distribution a real problem for Boruc he looked under real pressure and his long kicks went nowhere of any use.

[Saint Garrett]

Yes but did you see the qpr players hanging all around the box like vultures when we had a goalkick, they had done their homework and made short distribution a real problem for Boruc he looked under real pressure and his long kicks went nowhere of any use.

 

Yup! Agree. Them and toon both played us at our own game by pressing high with pacey players on the full backs, not giving us the opportunity to create from the back.

[Olallana]

Here's the problem, if no one else on here has the balls to criticize our new messiah, I'll stand up to the plate. We would not have lost yesterday under Adkins. HTH.

 

Remember Sunderland at home?

[david in sweden]

Correct. It's an important part of how we play. A keeper with good distribution is like an extra outfield player. Reina does it very well for Liverpool.

 

EXACTLY.....goalies are a team member the same as others, and not just a " legal pair of hands" . Many have good placement when they kick out. Boruc isn't so bad at all.

 

Goalies can kick it directly up field and change the flow of the game, whereas without back-passing it's very easy for a defender with his back to goal to be caught in possession by a skilful striker.

 

Although I do agree that it is a boring (yet necessary) move sometimes.

[Red]

ERR one of the problems yesterday was a lack of creativity in the final pass and the fact we could do little else than lump it forward to a Rickie who was well marshalled by that tall lump of lard Samba! resulting in bags of possession and no end product. This is where our only really creative midfielder, Lallana was missed 2nd half!

 

 

Not by me! Thought JR was far better than AL, and made the goal. Unlucky not to have got a 2nd - didn't see much from AL. Really don't understand the AL love-in? Yes, he has been superb in the past, and when on form - right now he is not on form-simple! There is of course an argument that we should stick with our better players and hope they will soon rediscover their form - maybe, not sure I am totally convinced by that myself, but please let's not pretend he is the Messiah!

[Saint Garrett]

Not by me! Thought JR was far better than AL, and made the goal. Unlucky not to have got a 2nd - didn't see much from AL. Really don't understand the AL love-in? Yes, he has been superb in the past, and when on form - right now he is not on form-simple! There is of course an argument that we should stick with our better players and hope they will soon rediscover their form - maybe, not sure I am totally convinced by that myself, but please let's not pretend he is the Messiah!

 

Fully agree. J Rod has offered much more on the left recently.

[tajjuk]

I share your concern, we had nobody running off the shoulder of he last defender looking for the through ball. Too often the ball went wide and instead of running down the line, the ball was passed back giving Rangers all the time in the world to get organised. I wasn't that bothered when Lallana went off and I though J-Rod would give us somebdy who would run at their defence.

 

There has to be space for people to run into, there was very little of it. QPR set up very deep to defend in numbers and hoped to nick a goal and they did just that. I doubt Samba even got to the centre crircle. Our final third passing just wasn't snappy enough, Lambert's touch was off and Puncheon slowed the play down every time. Jay Rod is full of running and pace but his touch and dribbling isn't good enough in tight spaces. Many times when we tried quick one twos the ball bounced off someone and QPR cleared.

 

Thought Boruc looked the calmest in possession through most of that game.