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They get lots of business on match days but the staff there say they get basically nobody in for the rest of the week. Might be a better idea to only open it on matchdays and when they have live music on...
That must apply to most pubs around football grounds up and down the country. Can't see how that pub isn't a viable business. Probably not helped with how few home games we've had this season.
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less home games, at stupid times, sunday lunch times, monday evenings etc, which has probably meant a lot less people going for a pint before and after, i dont think i have for a non saturday home game this season. It's not in a nice area and not a great pub, just handy for football, can see why it's dead during the week.

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That must apply to most pubs around football grounds up and down the country. Can't see how that pub isn't a viable business. Probably not helped with how few home games we've had this season.

 

Pretty much. Less games and more specifically a lot of different timetables. I imagine that unless we're playing on the afternoons/evenings on Saturday/Sundays the crowd is not even significantly bigger. Even when we last were in the PL the timetable variation was nowhere near as big.

 

A big difference with other local pubs near football grounds is that they attract some of the local population as well as some of their city centre crowds. Afraid St.Mary's is not that kind of area where people will go unless they are watching the football. Too far from the city centre and the pub itself is quite isolated.

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Pretty much. Less games and more specifically a lot of different timetables. I imagine that unless we're playing on the afternoons/evenings on Saturday/Sundays the crowd is not even significantly bigger. Even when we last were in the PL the timetable variation was nowhere near as big.

 

A big difference with other local pubs near football grounds is that they attract some of the local population as well as some of their city centre crowds. Afraid St.Mary's is not that kind of area where people will go unless they are watching the football. Too far from the city centre and the pub itself is quite isolated.

 

it would have closed several years back if it werent for St Mary's for all those reasons. Also the local demographic simply arent pub goers.

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Pretty much. Less games and more specifically a lot of different timetables. I imagine that unless we're playing on the afternoons/evenings on Saturday/Sundays the crowd is not even significantly bigger. Even when we last were in the PL the timetable variation was nowhere near as big.

 

A big difference with other local pubs near football grounds is that they attract some of the local population as well as some of their city centre crowds. Afraid St.Mary's is not that kind of area where people will go unless they are watching the football. Too far from the city centre and the pub itself is quite isolated.

 

it would have closed several years back if it werent for St Mary's for all those reasons. Also the local demographic simply arent pub goers.

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They're closing because the other manager (not Calven the big guy with almost a afro) ran off with load of money/takings from the pub and has forced them to close.

Apart from matchdays, on Friday and Saturday nights most weeks they would have something going on (like Drum & Bass - dance music nights / bands) but apart from that and footie days not alot else so they were running without making any money anyway and just about getting by.

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It should have stayed as a gay bar, gay bars are busy 7 days a week, especially Sundays. When I lived in Clapham, the one there was packed on a Sunday (source bearsy 2013).

 

Also, anyone remember the topless bar maids upstairs in the Alfred? That was funny, it wasn't like they got in some fit staff to do it or anything. It just looked like they told the usual staff there was a new uniform and it just consisted in a pair of trousers.

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It should have stayed as a gay bar, gay bars are busy 7 days a week, especially Sundays. When I lived in Clapham, the one there was packed on a Sunday (source bearsy 2013).

 

Also, anyone remember the topless bar maids upstairs in the Alfred? That was funny, it wasn't like they got in some fit staff to do it or anything. It just looked like they told the usual staff there was a new uniform and it just consisted in a pair of trousers.

 

When was this? Do not remember that, whenever I go upstairs it's always some moody bloke.

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It was around the time Burley was manager I guess. 2007 according to this forest forum http://www.footballforums.net/forums/showthread.php/187954-Soton-vs-Forest

 

They seemed to enjoy it. It was probably the worst titty bar I have ever been to and I have been to a fair few. It looked like a minor celeb was about to walk though the bar at any moment and say this was an appeal and for just £4 a month these minging b!tches would be able to afford tops to wear.

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Across the UK, pubs are closing at a rate of 18 per week. It's sad, a shame.

 

Tesco can sell you a pint for 89p whereas you pay £4 in a pub...

 

Not helped by a government (successive governments) who are hell bent on curing binge drinking by increasing the bloody price of booze...

 

What's needed is a government which understands:

 

a) alcahol education could be ASSISTED by encouraging responsible parents to take their kids to 'drinking' environments from a young age

b) local pubs used to be a home to the 'Big Society' - local people meeting and helping one another, sharing problems and halving them

c) pubs can create wealth - recycling money into the local economy rather than into faceless corporate monsters

d) most people are responsible when treated responsibly

e) happiness underpins a successful economy - it boosts confidence and well-being (reducing the health budget and welfare budget)

f) drinking at home is the scourge of society since this is when most depression and drink-related illness actually occurs (not in social environments - where the environment tempers behaviour).

 

So ultimately, we need a government which invests in pubs.

 

Simples.

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Tesco can sell you a pint for 89p whereas you pay £4 in a pub...

 

Not helped by a government (successive governments) who are hell bent on curing binge drinking by increasing the bloody price of booze...

 

What's needed is a government which understands:

 

a) alcahol education could be ASSISTED by encouraging responsible parents to take their kids to 'drinking' environments from a young age

b) local pubs used to be a home to the 'Big Society' - local people meeting and helping one another, sharing problems and halving them

c) pubs can create wealth - recycling money into the local economy rather than into faceless corporate monsters

d) most people are responsible when treated responsibly

e) happiness underpins a successful economy - it boosts confidence and well-being (reducing the health budget and welfare budget)

f) drinking at home is the scourge of society since this is when most depression and drink-related illness actually occurs (not in social environments - where the environment tempers behaviour).

 

So ultimately, we need a government which invests in pubs.

 

Simples.

 

Spot on, 100% agree. Such a shame the government can't or won't see it like this.

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Tesco can sell you a pint for 89p whereas you pay £4 in a pub...

 

Not helped by a government (successive governments) who are hell bent on curing binge drinking by increasing the bloody price of booze...

 

What's needed is a government which understands:

 

a) alcahol education could be ASSISTED by encouraging responsible parents to take their kids to 'drinking' environments from a young age

b) local pubs used to be a home to the 'Big Society' - local people meeting and helping one another, sharing problems and halving them

c) pubs can create wealth - recycling money into the local economy rather than into faceless corporate monsters

d) most people are responsible when treated responsibly

e) happiness underpins a successful economy - it boosts confidence and well-being (reducing the health budget and welfare budget)

f) drinking at home is the scourge of society since this is when most depression and drink-related illness actually occurs (not in social environments - where the environment tempers behaviour).

 

So ultimately, we need a government which invests in pubs.

 

Simples.

 

Absolutely brilliantly put.

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