Graffito Posted 24 February, 2013 Posted 24 February, 2013 Though Newcastle's pace stretched us (our defence seemed to be playing deeper leaving a lot of space between defence and midfield) they didn't have to work too hard for that victory. It just wasn't our day, from refs decisions to 50:50s, to lucky ricochets, to our performance. Although nothing went our way, ultimately we were architects of our own downfall. Inevitably Fox will get lambasted by all and sundry but he couldn't do much about the penalty decision. I think the handball was accidental. Tbh I don't know why Shaw was subbed. Puncheon looked bright when he came on and might have replaced Rodrigues sooner as he'd offered little.
SaintBobby Posted 24 February, 2013 Posted 24 February, 2013 We're doomed. Truly doomed. Fail to thrash QPR on Saturday and we're as good as down....
Whitey Grandad Posted 24 February, 2013 Posted 24 February, 2013 Whichever way you look at it, letting in four goals is not going to get us anywhere.
VectisSaint Posted 24 February, 2013 Posted 24 February, 2013 Re name this thread to the "post your to blame vote here" Forget mom poll, let`s have a scapegoat poll.. Why would we need a poll, unless it is a choice between Fox and Foy?
Bearsy Posted 24 February, 2013 Posted 24 February, 2013 Clyne on the left and Richardson on the right. It worked well the one time we did it. you mean everton away?
jasonb Posted 24 February, 2013 Posted 24 February, 2013 No knee jerk from me. By the sounds of it we performed well up there. However, they had too much for us on the day. I think they made 7 changes from their Europa league win and still looked too strong for us. They are now showing they are a top 8 side with the players they have added to their squad. Something to aspire to. I am not downbeat in the slightest. A quick look over at their match thread shows we aren't too far away. Very complimentary from most of them. A proper football club with knowledgable supporters. Now lets batter old twitch next week as they are truly awful and shouldn't be any match for our first 11 playing their A game. Newcastle today were too strong and frankly too good even with a little help from us on a couple of goals. Well played.
Ohio Saint Posted 24 February, 2013 Posted 24 February, 2013 Whichever way you look at it, letting in four goals is not going to get us anywhere. They were the better team today, but 4 goals was a bit of a fluke for them.
Thedelldays Posted 24 February, 2013 Posted 24 February, 2013 on another note, what a legend lambert is
Convict Colony Posted 24 February, 2013 Posted 24 February, 2013 Expected this defeat. The important game is against QPR and Norwich coming up. I think we will beat QPR. yes am loving this and this season I hope your 17th prediction is right :-)
Ohio Saint Posted 24 February, 2013 Posted 24 February, 2013 Pardew being quite gracious in his comments considering how he left us.
CanadaSaint Posted 24 February, 2013 Posted 24 February, 2013 For me, Pochettino made a big mistake with his starting line up by leaving Puncheon out. We really missed his pace and his interplay with Clyne, and his absence gave Newcastle the comfort to attack us down that side. In fact, I think that Pochettino was our-coached by Pardew today. He's smart enough to learn, though.
Saint_clark Posted 24 February, 2013 Posted 24 February, 2013 Pardew being quite gracious in his comments considering how he left us. ...What?
Ohio Saint Posted 24 February, 2013 Posted 24 February, 2013 ...What? He was being interviewed on Saints player. he was very fair about our performance today. Oh!! You mean how I phrased his termination? oops!
Thedelldays Posted 24 February, 2013 Posted 24 February, 2013 Pardew being quite gracious in his comments considering how he left us. whats he saying
jasonb Posted 24 February, 2013 Posted 24 February, 2013 Oh yeah... Kinda lost in the result but that was the ton up for SRL???? I know a fair few were in the lower divisions but what a success. Best £1m the club has ever spent in the modern era.
Ohio Saint Posted 24 February, 2013 Posted 24 February, 2013 whats he saying We bossed the first 20 of each half, we will stay up, as good as any of the recent teams they played. All good stuff....Even pleased that Ricky scored, since they won any way
Mr Saints Posted 24 February, 2013 Posted 24 February, 2013 Fonte in for Hooiveld next Saturday please. Well done Rickie. Legend.
suewhistle Posted 24 February, 2013 Posted 24 February, 2013 Never a penalty, but I'm wondering if the rules have changed?? Must admit I'm not sure what the rules say, but his arms were just slightly back in the position you have them when you're trying to balance yourself. Sometimes I reckon some people on here haven't played football, they're so harsh on the slightest mistake. Nothing went well for us today, although both of our goals were good ones. It was fairly obvious why Shaw went off, and it wasn't because he was playing badly, but he's a 17 year old kid on a booking up against some very experienced and physical opponents (look how he got his booking, for example). So a day to write off, I'm afraid. I thought having our game called off due to snow and being able to watch was going to be a baaad thing. :-(
rshephard3 Posted 24 February, 2013 Posted 24 February, 2013 Pards said Saints better team first 20 mins of each half. He loves SRL and told him early on in his Saints days he could play in the prem. Went on to praise Debuchy and staff at Newcastle as you'd expect. Very gracious and said our recent run shows our quality and is why we'll be fine this season.
Shroppie Posted 24 February, 2013 Posted 24 February, 2013 In hindsight, wish Jose had come on for Shaw, assuming he needed to come off, pushing Jos or Yoshida to LB. IIRC that was the lineup against Stoke, who were also strong and direct, and it was pretty effective.
Chez Posted 24 February, 2013 Posted 24 February, 2013 The rule is the same as it has always been, "deliberately handling the ball". cheers. I thought that was the case. Far far too many pens beign given when shots and crosses are smashed into arms in their natural positions. Foy is a useless ****.
BILLY Posted 24 February, 2013 Posted 24 February, 2013 Fonte in for Hooiveld next Saturday please. Well done Rickie. Legend. What about Forren? Hope Fox never wears the shirt again!
Ohio Saint Posted 24 February, 2013 Posted 24 February, 2013 Deliberately handling the ball should also carry a card though? So according to current rules, was there a balls up?
JoeShmoe Posted 24 February, 2013 Posted 24 February, 2013 Newcastle are a good side, they won't be down there for long. Cabaye, Tiote and Sissoko are very good players, better than what we have When it went to 2-2 we were dominating but game changed as soon as Shaw went off. Agree about Punch, he should be playing every week, and Ramirez doesn't seem to fit in at all, neither this or that. I'd sell him in the summer and get the money back
Chez Posted 24 February, 2013 Posted 24 February, 2013 How many OGs has Hooiveld scored now this season? I know they are always the result of bad luck, and there was nothing he could have done about that one today, but you have to wonder if it can possibly just be coincidence. far too easy for their wide left player (can't recall whom it was) getting into the box and crossing it in. That is where a lot of the blame lies for that own goal.
CanadaSaint Posted 24 February, 2013 Posted 24 February, 2013 Must admit I'm not sure what the rules say, but his arms were just slightly back in the position you have them when you're trying to balance yourself.( The rules say that it's hand ball if a player "handles the ball deliberately (except for the goalkeeper within his own penalty area)", but it's been interpreted differently fo some time. That allows tools like Foy and Dowd the licence to be homers and to give a penalty in one case but not another. FIFA needs to get a grip on this because nobody really knows what hand ball is any more.
Thedelldays Posted 24 February, 2013 Posted 24 February, 2013 come on...we got a penalty at villa when there was no contact.. at least this one is debatable
Chez Posted 24 February, 2013 Posted 24 February, 2013 In hindsight, wish Jose had come on for Shaw, assuming he needed to come off, pushing Jos or Yoshida to LB. IIRC that was the lineup against Stoke, who were also strong and direct, and it was pretty effective. Yoshida played right back that day. When he played left back against West Ham he was woeful.
BILLY Posted 24 February, 2013 Posted 24 February, 2013 come on...we got a penalty at villa when there was no contact.. at least this one is debatable There was intent on Jay Rod at Villa and contact with Puch from the keeper.
alidiasagent Posted 24 February, 2013 Posted 24 February, 2013 Watched the game, we played well in the 2nd half. First half (post 5 mins in) wasn't great viewing we really struggled to keep hold off the ball. Sadly Fox cost us the game, he really lacked composure, Shaw was caught out a few times but Fox had a poor game. Lallana was excellent in the second half which was great to see, we struggled to get a foothold in the middle overall. Newcastle looked pretty decent, Sissoko is a class act. Also some nice comments about us on the NUFC forum http://www.nufc-forum.com/nufcforum/index.php?topic=48830.0
Roger Posted 24 February, 2013 Posted 24 February, 2013 There was intent on Jay Rod at Villa and contact with Puch from the keeper. Behave.
Mr Saints Posted 24 February, 2013 Posted 24 February, 2013 What about Forren? Hope Fox never wears the shirt again! Fonte was playing well before his injury so it's a no brainer IMO
Shroppie Posted 24 February, 2013 Posted 24 February, 2013 Yoshida played right back that day. When he played left back against West Ham he was woeful. Thanks for the correction. That leaves the question as to what our cover is at LB apart from Fox.
monkadill Posted 24 February, 2013 Posted 24 February, 2013 A post with some reason, i wonder if half the haters and posters on here ever watch the game?? Thought we played well but thought Newcastle had the rub of the green. If Lambo had scored the header it may have been a different story. Agree about your comment about Puncheon.
Roger Posted 24 February, 2013 Posted 24 February, 2013 A post with some reason, i wonder if half the haters and posters on here ever watch the game?? Thought we played well but thought Newcastle had the rub of the green. If Lambo had scored the header it may have been a different story. Agree about your comment about Puncheon. Yes lambert should have been able to turn his head the other way in mid air lol.
Stud mark of doom Posted 24 February, 2013 Posted 24 February, 2013 The team as a whole didn't turn up today. Disappointing that all 4 goals were a product of individual errors that were made under little/no pressure. Lallana Rodriguez Cork Fox Shaw Clyne Davis All rubbish today. I'd put Gaston well ahead of most of those in the rubbish today league.
Roger Posted 24 February, 2013 Posted 24 February, 2013 I'd put Gaston well ahead of most of those in the rubbish today league. I dont know how you come to that conclusion.
BILLY Posted 24 February, 2013 Posted 24 February, 2013 Fonte was playing well before his injury so it's a no brainer IMO We haven't seen Fotten play yet - Norway International CB.
Trader Posted 24 February, 2013 Posted 24 February, 2013 Should Boruc have saved the second goal? 25 yards out and straight down the middle. Or should I not bring that up as he's flavour of the month on here? I think Kelvin or Gazzaniga would have kept that out. Cue Delldays inevitable response calling me a ****.
110_Persaint Posted 24 February, 2013 Posted 24 February, 2013 nathan dyer scores at wembley Wow. About as off-topic in a thread as you can get. Just wow.
Ohio Saint Posted 24 February, 2013 Posted 24 February, 2013 Should Boruc have saved the second goal? 25 yards out and straight down the middle. Or should I not bring that up as he's flavour of the month on here? Maybe he should/could have saved it. Maybe Ricky should/could have scored his second opportunity. Maybe Lallana should/could have scored his miss, or Gaston from his FK What is your point?
swesaint Posted 24 February, 2013 Posted 24 February, 2013 Gazzaniga - maybe Kelvin - no Boruc by far the better keeper though.
110_Persaint Posted 24 February, 2013 Posted 24 February, 2013 Where is the MoM poll? Some players put in some really good shifts today and ought to be recognised.
Shroppie Posted 24 February, 2013 Posted 24 February, 2013 Was swerving and dipping - very difficult but I think he was surprised by it. On the pen, having now seen it think it was very harsh. Very close range, no deliberate attempt to block the ball, little chance of getting out of the way. Would never have been given against, for example, Manure.
CB Saint Posted 24 February, 2013 Posted 24 February, 2013 Danny fox was ther difference between Newcastle and Saints today. Unfortunately he played for us.
Trader Posted 24 February, 2013 Posted 24 February, 2013 Maybe he should/could have saved it. Maybe Ricky should/could have scored his second opportunity. Maybe Lallana should/could have scored his miss, or Gaston from his FK What is your point? My point is he should have foooking saved it.
BILLY Posted 24 February, 2013 Posted 24 February, 2013 Should Boruc have saved the second goal? 25 yards out and straight down the middle. Or should I not bring that up as he's flavour of the month on here? I think Kelvin or Gazzaniga would have kept that out. Cue Delldays inevitable response calling me a ****. It was off side anyway! Cheating ****s
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