Saint-Armstrong Posted 24 February, 2013 Share Posted 24 February, 2013 .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
110_Persaint Posted 24 February, 2013 Share Posted 24 February, 2013 We win on away goals! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 24 February, 2013 Share Posted 24 February, 2013 Would have been delighted with 2 points from Man City and Newcastle. We've got 3 instead! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 24 February, 2013 Share Posted 24 February, 2013 Positives: We scored two good goals. Negatives: Danny Fox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travelling Saint Posted 24 February, 2013 Share Posted 24 February, 2013 Well and truly Foxed out of that one!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monk Posted 24 February, 2013 Share Posted 24 February, 2013 Danny Fox can sack off. Waste of space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 24 February, 2013 Share Posted 24 February, 2013 we never do well up there, QPR on Saturday is huge! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 24 February, 2013 Share Posted 24 February, 2013 Killed ourselves 2 or 3 times in that game, our own-undoing. Generally pathetic in the first half, but better in the 2nd half - but we never really got a control of the game. Very huff and puff and you have to say that Newcastle easily deserved that win. They were much stronger and quicker than us all over the pitch, and sharper when it mattered. These 2 week lay offs do not do us any favours at all. Next week is huge. Nervous for it already! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Saint Posted 24 February, 2013 Share Posted 24 February, 2013 Away to a good team playing to their potential. I'm disappointed, but mainly only because it was a defeat after two weeks of anticipation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 24 February, 2013 Share Posted 24 February, 2013 Foy was cr@p in the first half, Fox was cr@p in the second. Look forward to smashing QPR next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pangy Posted 24 February, 2013 Share Posted 24 February, 2013 Maybe if Shaw never picked up a yellow Fox would not of got on the pitch Lambert was to isolated up top,no real support until Gaston came on AL turned up for about 15 mins Draw a line under it and concentrate on QPR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laughba Posted 24 February, 2013 Share Posted 24 February, 2013 Why was a newcastle player wearing yellow today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 24 February, 2013 Share Posted 24 February, 2013 Re name this thread to the "post your to blame vote here" Forget mom poll, let`s have a scapegoat poll.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 24 February, 2013 Share Posted 24 February, 2013 QPR is now massive! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obelisk Posted 24 February, 2013 Share Posted 24 February, 2013 More points dropped from a winning position. I thought we looked ok 2nd half, certainly better then the first, but an arguable penalty and a farce own goal screwed us. It just makes Saturday's game a little more important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOSaint Posted 24 February, 2013 Share Posted 24 February, 2013 The team as a whole didn't turn up today. Disappointing that all 4 goals were a product of individual errors that were made under little/no pressure. Lallana Rodriguez Cork Fox Shaw Clyne Davis All rubbish today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgehog Posted 24 February, 2013 Share Posted 24 February, 2013 Fox rubbish. Referee did us no favours, and is Ramirez the new Guly? 3 points against QPR is a must! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 24 February, 2013 Share Posted 24 February, 2013 we played alright. hardly tested their keeper though...passed it around ok at times but lets be honest, they were better than us today..quicker, stronger and just better than us today many teams will find it very hard to get a win at St James for the rest of the season..they have added such pace and power Lambert, cork and morgan did well...lambert was just excellent again even at time isolated lallana was a passenger in the 1st half...good in the 2nd rodriguez was no where at all I would very surprised to see puncheon out and when he came on, he was looking good. surely he wont be out next week and I hope gaston turns up next week I cant see hooiveld playing next week, like an accident waiting to happen...not really his fault for the own goal and danny fox....oh dear. QPR will be a hard game next week as they looked half decent against man united and they DO have some good players who can play if they dare turn up well, this might bring the loonies down to earth about some unstoppable march to 10th place..for all the teams that are so bad (apparently) above us...yet we just cant get above 15th place...does that make them not as bad as suggested or us even worse..? massive game next week, we really need to win it...i think we will\ theirs WAS a penalty...and you all would be livid had we not got that decision the ref was a fukker though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish fingers Posted 24 February, 2013 Share Posted 24 February, 2013 Hopefully we can stop hating Guly now and actually hate someone who is sh1t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yate Saint Posted 24 February, 2013 Share Posted 24 February, 2013 It's clear that Newcastle will be a force again next season. I would worry about having so many French players though. We didn't really get going and shame Puncheon didn't come on a bit earlier to give us a bit more going forward. Back to Fonte and Yoshida next week me thinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkeith Posted 24 February, 2013 Share Posted 24 February, 2013 Something for MP to think about, the way they stretched and isolated our defence, particularly in the first half. Newcastle are on the up since the transfer window. Must learn for this for next week. Fonte back to calm the back four down I hope. I am of down the lane to watch the league cup final, before the bed wetters take over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Posted 24 February, 2013 Share Posted 24 February, 2013 Thought we were generally poor today - may be too long a break? However without the two gifts for France day we would have drawn! Just hope it does not matter at the end of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasiak-9- Posted 24 February, 2013 Share Posted 24 February, 2013 Danny Fox was very, very poor and panicky. Feel disappointed for the CBs, especially Yoshida. I don't think you'll ever see a team concede four goals with the CBs doing as little wrong. I mean don't get me wrong Hooiveld didn't have a great game but the full-backs got roasted. On that point. Clyne is a problem, and a big one at that. Going forward he's fine but at the back and 1-v-1 against a winger running at him I'm very worried. He puts a lot of effort in but the lad is just too lightweight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
110_Persaint Posted 24 February, 2013 Share Posted 24 February, 2013 Clear offside for Cisse's goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobM Posted 24 February, 2013 Share Posted 24 February, 2013 We looked a different team to all other games since MP has been here. Our tight, controlled, high-tempo, passing game only made a few appearances. We didn't look bad, we looked competitive, but the strength and determination we've had of late went missing. I do wonder if the comments pre-game about having two weeks off being a bad thing are spot-on. Newcastle should, in theory, have been tired from a Thursday game and travelling, but they looked faster, fitted and harder working and ultimately that's why they won. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 24 February, 2013 Share Posted 24 February, 2013 For me the manager made his first mistakes today. The problem is he hasnt been here long enough to know fox is pants. Also, unless puncheon was poorly then why not start him and if you havent started him then why the hell does gaston deserve to come in before him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stepgar Posted 24 February, 2013 Share Posted 24 February, 2013 Not sure how the ref saw fit to give a freekick for the worldy TBH. got played at "Our own game" pi**ed off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted 24 February, 2013 Share Posted 24 February, 2013 Scoreline flattered Newcastle, but they probably edged it and deserved the win. Introduction of Fox turned the game in the hosts' favour - no complaints about the penalty but Hooiveld own goal was shocking. Referee Chris Foy was poor, no major decisions wrong but very picky and gave needless free-kicks/bookings. Overall, an OK performance but disappointed not to come away with a point. QPR is huge now - still believe we'll be alright. Keep the faith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 24 February, 2013 Share Posted 24 February, 2013 so, did you all think it was a penalty then? I can't see any complaints, so assume that's the case. What's the official rule these day because there was zero intent, it was totally accidental, his hand/arm wasn't raised to block it, so I don't see it as a handball at all. Then again I could not be more biased. If the roles were reversed would I expect to get the pen? I'm not sure I would actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tractor_Saint Posted 24 February, 2013 Share Posted 24 February, 2013 Great Cisse goal but it was confirmed offside on the replay. Understand why MP took Shaw off as the yellow could have easily been a red later during the game. But sadly Fox had a bad game. His handball was unfortunate but what was he doing for that clearance OG?! Lambert is a class on his own, loads of great cushion headers. Wrong move bringing on Ramirez instead of Punch at that time. If Punch had been in the position Ramirez was a couple of times he'd have scored. Boruc impresses me game in game out. A bit c*cky at times but if he plays like that I'm happy - no chance of saving the pen! All in all, 4-2 was probably a little harsh. Watched the full 90+ minutes on a fantastic internet feed. Now I know why I hate the French. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 24 February, 2013 Share Posted 24 February, 2013 Expected this defeat. The important game is against QPR and Norwich coming up. I think we will beat QPR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 24 February, 2013 Share Posted 24 February, 2013 It's clear that Newcastle will be a force again next season. I would worry about having so many French players though. We didn't really get going and shame Puncheon didn't come on a bit earlier to give us a bit more going forward. Back to Fonte and Yoshida next week me thinks. Bingo - they are a very good team and are for some reason currently in a false position this season. Seriously, a point would have been good for us to get, but we never do well up there and they ARE a good team. First half we looked like we really had two weeks without playing - it showed. But Newcastle are a good side and will/should be top 6 next season again. I'd love to sign Tiote - wouldn't happen, but hey ho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggles31 Posted 24 February, 2013 Share Posted 24 February, 2013 Disappointing, next Saturday is massive with Villa at home to City and Reading away to Everton. Could go 6 points clear. Oh and I hope Fox never plays for us again. Dreadful LB even by Championship standards. Hope MP has realised this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints Warrior Posted 24 February, 2013 Share Posted 24 February, 2013 Its now a clear 5 horse race for a relegation escape between bottom 3 , Sunderland and Saints. We must win vs QPR as I dont think we can sort our defence out before end season. Saints are just too inconsistant during games and still weak at the back so totally relying on goals scored exceeding the ones going in. Big, fast and tough teams will allways cause Saints problems so need to win the 4-5 weaker teams left. If Fox is that bad why do we keep playing him?? This is the same problem we had with NA and player selections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hackedoff Posted 24 February, 2013 Share Posted 24 February, 2013 The new manager has identified and removed the weak link in the team that the previous manager could never see. Now, hopefully he has identified the next two weak links. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 24 February, 2013 Share Posted 24 February, 2013 Its now a clear 5 horse race for a relegation escape between bottom 3 , Sunderland and Saints. We must win vs QPR as I dont think we can sort our defence out before end season. Saints are just too inconsistant during games and still weak at the back so totally relying on goals scored exceeding the ones going in. Big, fast and tough teams will allways cause Saints problems so need to win the 4-5 weaker teams left. If Fox is that bad why do we keep playing him?? This is the same problem we had with NA and player selections. Who else do we play if shaw isn't avaliable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfc4prem Posted 24 February, 2013 Share Posted 24 February, 2013 4-2 harsh but Newcastle deserved the win just about. Rusty after a two week lay-off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 24 February, 2013 Share Posted 24 February, 2013 so, did you all think it was a penalty then? I can't see any complaints, so assume that's the case. What's the official rule these day because there was zero intent, it was totally accidental, his hand/arm wasn't raised to block it, so I don't see it as a handball at all. Then again I could not be more biased. If the roles were reversed would I expect to get the pen? I'm not sure I would actually. Never a penalty, but I'm wondering if the rules have changed?? He was running forwards, arms swaying as they do when you run with energy and the ball hit his arm ... I thought it was harsh on Fox and he shouldn't be blamed for that, in my opinion. We will smash QPR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Saint Posted 24 February, 2013 Share Posted 24 February, 2013 so, did you all think it was a penalty then? I can't see any complaints, so assume that's the case. What's the official rule these day because there was zero intent, it was totally accidental, his hand/arm wasn't raised to block it, so I don't see it as a handball at all. Then again I could not be more biased. If the roles were reversed would I expect to get the pen? I'm not sure I would actually. I prefer the old way in which that would not be a penalty, but if that's the way it is these days, then fair enough as long as all incidents are judged equally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 24 February, 2013 Share Posted 24 February, 2013 How many OGs has Hooiveld scored now this season? I know they are always the result of bad luck, and there was nothing he could have done about that one today, but you have to wonder if it can possibly just be coincidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsbridge Saint Posted 24 February, 2013 Share Posted 24 February, 2013 Foy was the difference between the teams. One way traffic all afternoon with his decisions and non decisions. 4 yellows for us none for them yet Tiote and the other **** kickers knocked lumps off us all day. Go Figure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWD Posted 24 February, 2013 Share Posted 24 February, 2013 Newcastle look a good side to be fair. Played us at our own game by pressing us high up the pitch and we couldn't cope for long periods. Clyne and Shaw were poor as they had no time on the ball, same for Cork. Not really much you can do about an OG like that, hard to blame Fox or Hooiveld. However would still bring Fonte back in next week. Sissoko is a cracking player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 24 February, 2013 Share Posted 24 February, 2013 4-2 harsh but Newcastle deserved the win just about. Rusty after a two week lay-off. As we always are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 24 February, 2013 Share Posted 24 February, 2013 so, did you all think it was a penalty then? I can't see any complaints, so assume that's the case. What's the official rule these day because there was zero intent, it was totally accidental, his hand/arm wasn't raised to block it, so I don't see it as a handball at all. Then again I could not be more biased. If the roles were reversed would I expect to get the pen? I'm not sure I would actually. The rule is the same as it has always been, "deliberately handling the ball". There are no references in the Laws of the Game to "ball to hand" or "hand to ball" or any of the other cock that some of the commentators/pundits come up with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 24 February, 2013 Share Posted 24 February, 2013 Go Figure.We are English, not American! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obelisk Posted 24 February, 2013 Share Posted 24 February, 2013 Thinking back, Rickie was a whisker away from giving us a 3-2 lead. Their 2nd was plainly offside while we gifted them their other goals. It was a game we could easily have got something from but it doesn't help if you have to play the ref as well. Just one of those days. If we're back to our best on Saturday it'll all be forgotten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSaint Posted 24 February, 2013 Share Posted 24 February, 2013 Speaking as one who wasn't that unhappy to see him go, I thought that Mr. Pardew did an excellent job today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 24 February, 2013 Share Posted 24 February, 2013 Who else do we play if shaw isn't avaliable? Clyne on the left and Richardson on the right. It worked well the one time we did it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToreSF Posted 24 February, 2013 Share Posted 24 February, 2013 we played alright. hardly tested their keeper though...passed it around ok at times but lets be honest, they were better than us today..quicker, stronger and just better than us today many teams will find it very hard to get a win at St James for the rest of the season..they have added such pace and power Lambert, cork and morgan did well...lambert was just excellent again even at time isolated lallana was a passenger in the 1st half...good in the 2nd rodriguez was no where at all I would very surprised to see puncheon out and when he came on, he was looking good. surely he wont be out next week and I hope gaston turns up next week I cant see hooiveld playing next week, like an accident waiting to happen...not really his fault for the own goal and danny fox....oh dear. QPR will be a hard game next week as they looked half decent against man united and they DO have some good players who can play if they dare turn up well, this might bring the loonies down to earth about some unstoppable march to 10th place..for all the teams that are so bad (apparently) above us...yet we just cant get above 15th place...does that make them not as bad as suggested or us even worse..? massive game next week, we really need to win it...i think we will\ theirs WAS a penalty...and you all would be livid had we not got that decision the ref was a fukker though Agree with everything you've said here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 24 February, 2013 Share Posted 24 February, 2013 as someone posted above...I would have been happy with 2 points from the last 2 games a few weeks ago...but we now have 3. it still the utter dross, gazza in goal etc that is still hurting us. newcastle will probably finish top half (not us)..they looked good today..fair play to them we got lots of luck against man city..and today it was not our day... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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