Saint Garrett Posted 24 February, 2013 Posted 24 February, 2013 Been poor since he's come on. Fine as backup though.
110_Persaint Posted 24 February, 2013 Posted 24 February, 2013 Easily the worst player in our squad. Clearly at a level lower than everybody else.
slickmick Posted 24 February, 2013 Author Posted 24 February, 2013 Overreaction. Not really, been a liability for far too long now.
Ex Lion Tamer Posted 24 February, 2013 Posted 24 February, 2013 Way too much responsibility on Shaw's shoulders at the moment
Barry Sanchez Posted 24 February, 2013 Posted 24 February, 2013 If you called a taxi for the said man, he would either miss it or fall out in front of it, he truly is that inept.
Barry Sanchez Posted 24 February, 2013 Posted 24 February, 2013 Overreaction. He was **** in the Championship. Reading game?
slickmick Posted 24 February, 2013 Author Posted 24 February, 2013 Been poor since he's come on. Fine as backup though. Not good enough for back up. Costs us far to many goals.
SOTONS EAST SIDE Posted 24 February, 2013 Posted 24 February, 2013 ^ OVERREACTION!!! He's been ****e 90% of the games,he's played. MORE LIKE UNDERREACTION!!!
mickyp Posted 24 February, 2013 Posted 24 February, 2013 bloody awful come on and single handed gave Newcastle the game. Bad managerial substitution
Saint Garrett Posted 24 February, 2013 Posted 24 February, 2013 He was **** in the Championship. Reading game? But very good in every other game of the season. He's allowed an off day? As been mentioned before...who is better than fox but happy to sit on the bench as backup to a 17 year old? On a side note...is this the same taxi as Gulys?!
JustMike Posted 24 February, 2013 Posted 24 February, 2013 He may well go, but it wont be until the end of the season now
Sheaf Saint Posted 24 February, 2013 Posted 24 February, 2013 We were in the ascendancy and looking like we would be the team to go on and win it until he came on. Completely changed the shape of the team and his poor positioning and general crapness gave the game to Newcastle. Very poor from him today.
DT Posted 24 February, 2013 Posted 24 February, 2013 Has been awful all season. Amazed nobody at the club can see his limitations. Will keep dragging us down.
DT Posted 24 February, 2013 Posted 24 February, 2013 But very good in every other game of the season. He's allowed an off day? As been mentioned before...who is better than fox but happy to sit on the bench as backup to a 17 year old? On a side note...is this the same taxi as Gulys?! 'Very good' - are you having a laugh?
sfc1976 Posted 24 February, 2013 Posted 24 February, 2013 Surely one positive from today will be that he never plays again? I mean, surely?
Barry Sanchez Posted 24 February, 2013 Posted 24 February, 2013 But very good in every other game of the season. He's allowed an off day? As been mentioned before...who is better than fox but happy to sit on the bench as backup to a 17 year old? On a side note...is this the same taxi as Gulys?! Yes it is, Guly is better than Fox though as a player, no one to answer your question but that is the boards fault for not signing a better defenders.
Crab Lungs Posted 24 February, 2013 Posted 24 February, 2013 Yes, the penalty could very well be his fault but anyone knows that with the movements you make in football, it happens, it's natural. Try running with your arms by your side, it doesn't work. Sure, he was to blame for a few things this year but jumping on his back for every, single goal we concede is utterly pathetic and shows people up a bit, to be honest. Those who don't agree, I'd say one thing; assess the whole phase of play, not just the end result (Fox giving away penalty/Fox-Hooiveld incident).
slickmick Posted 24 February, 2013 Author Posted 24 February, 2013 But very good in every other game of the season. He's allowed an off day? As been mentioned before...who is better than fox but happy to sit on the bench as backup to a 17 year old? On a side note...is this the same taxi as Gulys?! If thats aimed at me I have nothing against Guly, but Fox has and will cost us big time if we have to rely on him too often.
Ewell Posted 24 February, 2013 Posted 24 February, 2013 Overreaction. Really??? So he has not looked out of his depth all season when we played. It is no coincidence that his exit from the team and the emergence of Luke Shaw has made us more defensively sound. It is not just Shaw coming into the team that has done that. Fox should be sold this summer.
Lighthouse Posted 24 February, 2013 Posted 24 February, 2013 Been poor since he's come on. Fine as backup though. If he is poor when he comes on, he isn't fine as back up. Good back up was Butterfield and Dickson when we were in League 1. Fox is awful at this level.
Nexstar Posted 24 February, 2013 Posted 24 February, 2013 Been poor since he's come on. Fine as backup though. Fine as backup, until he has to come on. In other words, terrible backup.
beatlesaint Posted 24 February, 2013 Posted 24 February, 2013 Has been awful all season. Amazed nobody at the club can see his limitations. Will keep dragging us down. Oh i think MP would possibly have noticed today. If he is as sharp as people say he is it wont have gone un-noticed. I only hope there was a very good reason for Shaw coming off - injury being the only one I can think of, and if so then pray it isnt serious.
Saint Garrett Posted 24 February, 2013 Posted 24 February, 2013 'Very good' - are you having a laugh? He was very good all last season, apart from Blackpool away and that Reading game which has been mentioned. Was an important part of our promotion team, yes. Been shocking this season though, and no he isn't good enough to be first choice in a premiership side. However, he is able backup
Sheaf Saint Posted 24 February, 2013 Posted 24 February, 2013 Yes, the penalty could very well be his fault but anyone knows that with the movements you make in football, it happens, it's natural. Try running with your arms by your side, it doesn't work. Sure, he was to blame for a few things this year but jumping on his back for every, single goal we concede is utterly pathetic and shows people up a bit, to be honest. Those who don't agree, I'd say one thing; assess the whole phase of play, not just the end result (Fox giving away penalty/Fox-Hooiveld incident). Interesting you should say that. The whole period of pressure from Newcastle (prior to the penalty incident) came about because of Fox trying to dribble his way out of trouble in defence and f***ing it up.
JustMike Posted 24 February, 2013 Posted 24 February, 2013 If he is poor when he comes on, he isn't fine as back up. Good back up was Butterfield and Dickson when we were in League 1. Fox is awful at this level. Jos is too and can go in the same taxi...they can share the fare
Joneth Posted 24 February, 2013 Posted 24 February, 2013 Very average Championship left back. Suicidal PL left back. Must have the highest ***** ups / game ratio in the league.
RobM Posted 24 February, 2013 Posted 24 February, 2013 Yes, the penalty could very well be his fault but anyone knows that with the movements you make in football, it happens, it's natural. Try running with your arms by your side, it doesn't work. Sure, he was to blame for a few things this year but jumping on his back for every, single goal we concede is utterly pathetic and shows people up a bit, to be honest. Those who don't agree, I'd say one thing; assess the whole phase of play, not just the end result (Fox giving away penalty/Fox-Hooiveld incident). If you assess the whole phase of play, it's not unreasonable to wonder how Fox was beaten so easily, leaving him chasing and flapping his arms in desperation. You're right, that one moment cannot be taken in isolation, but Fox should have been in control of the situation from the start. Shaw never looked so vulnerable.
Barry Sanchez Posted 24 February, 2013 Posted 24 February, 2013 He may well go, but it wont be until the end of the season now If he stays I am knocking on the door in the week and will try an Ali Dia because if Fox stays after this episode he should be putting in for the popes job as he is surely blessed.
CanadaSaint Posted 24 February, 2013 Posted 24 February, 2013 Yes, the penalty could very well be his fault but anyone knows that with the movements you make in football, it happens, it's natural. Try running with your arms by your side, it doesn't work. Sure, he was to blame for a few things this year but jumping on his back for every, single goal we concede is utterly pathetic and shows people up a bit, to be honest. Those who don't agree, I'd say one thing; assess the whole phase of play, not just the end result (Fox giving away penalty/Fox-Hooiveld incident). Well said. I'm certainly not a Fox fan and I don't think he should be playing, but those two goals were just bad breaks.
beatlesaint Posted 24 February, 2013 Posted 24 February, 2013 Fine as backup, until he has to come on. In other words, terrible backup. Here Here ! All this fine as back up talk is rubbish......he is **** !
doggface Posted 24 February, 2013 Posted 24 February, 2013 Possibly the worst substitute appearance I have ever seen. Shaw must have been struggling.
CaneNero Posted 24 February, 2013 Posted 24 February, 2013 F ucking tattoo'd rod up his arse short back n' sides geeza. Not good enough for the PL, good riddance!!
Nexstar Posted 24 February, 2013 Posted 24 February, 2013 He was very good all last season, apart from Blackpool away and that Reading game which has been mentioned. Was an important part of our promotion team, yes. Been shocking this season though, and no he isn't good enough to be first choice in a premiership side. However, he is able backup Yes he's able to be at fault for 2 goals in a 4-2 defeat. Great.
VectisSaint Posted 24 February, 2013 Posted 24 February, 2013 He really does make Shaw look good! No he doesn't. Shaw makes Shaw look good, because he is good. To be fair to Fox, the last few times he has been called on he has been OK (nothing more). But the problem is that he causes our other defenders to have to cover for him, because his positioning is awful. Makes Jos or Yoshi or whoever is playing on the left of centre to look poor as well.
slickmick Posted 24 February, 2013 Author Posted 24 February, 2013 Yes, the penalty could very well be his fault but anyone knows that with the movements you make in football, it happens, it's natural. Try running with your arms by your side, it doesn't work. Sure, he was to blame for a few things this year but jumping on his back for every, single goal we concede is utterly pathetic and shows people up a bit, to be honest. Those who don't agree, I'd say one thing; assess the whole phase of play, not just the end result (Fox giving away penalty/Fox-Hooiveld incident). Yep, I've assessed it and he was at fault for both goals. 3rd goal: Why did he let his man get behind him so easy ? He will never learn to mark his man well. 4th goal: I wish he could mark opposing players aswell as he did Jos.
captainchris Posted 24 February, 2013 Posted 24 February, 2013 Fox is and has been dreadful. The very worrying part of this is that our manager has yet to work this out! Unbelievable !
SNSUN Posted 24 February, 2013 Posted 24 February, 2013 Poor player, thank God Shaw slipped into left back with consumate ease when he did. I've still seen enough under MP to think we'll survive but pray Shaw stays fit.
Barry the Badger Posted 24 February, 2013 Posted 24 February, 2013 Unfortunately, he is not really up to it. Was fine last season but not one of our stronger players even then.
captainchris Posted 24 February, 2013 Posted 24 February, 2013 Fox has not been 'ok' ........ Wake up and smell the coffee he can't mark and is totally unaware of what is happening around him....
Ewell Posted 24 February, 2013 Posted 24 February, 2013 It's time to Make Yoshida or Forren our left back cover. I would also rather see Matt Targett elevated to the first team rather than see Danny Fox in a Saints shirt again.
Whitey Grandad Posted 24 February, 2013 Posted 24 February, 2013 He is what he is. It's not his fault that he's not very good.
RobM Posted 24 February, 2013 Posted 24 February, 2013 It's time to Make Yoshida or Forren our left back cover. I would also rather see Matt Targett elevated to the first team rather than see Danny Fox in a Saints shirt again. No, definitely not, playing players out of position isn't the answer. Clyne can play LB if needed, so we just have to hope Shaw stays fit and keep Richardson on the bench. This lets us use Clyne as our reserve LB and Cork and Richardson as RB.
Ewell Posted 24 February, 2013 Posted 24 February, 2013 No, definitely not, playing players out of position isn't the answer. Clyne can play LB if needed, so we just have to hope Shaw stays fit and keep Richardson on the bench. This lets us use Clyne as our reserve LB and Cork and Richardson as RB. What a quite brilliant contradiction. Well done sir.
Hodgey Posted 24 February, 2013 Posted 24 February, 2013 The problem with Fox is that if mentally he could cope with the Premiership he may be an adequate back up. As a footballer he'll never be first team material as his passing isn't good enough and he lacks pace which is a key attribute for a Premiership full back, but he has the ability to be a back up (Man Utd away case in point). That said mentally he panics and makes dreadful decisions that cost goals, remember against Man City away when he headed the ball back in play under no pressure, rather than play safe - same today and there are numerous other examples. I can't see that changing and I can't be the only one who fears the worst every time he comes on, I wonder if the players do too. Hoover suddenly looked all at sea as soon as Fox came on. I'd rather move Clyne over there every time and play Richardson/Cork rb, or even give Target some time. Chances are he'll make mistakes, but as Fox will as well you may as well play someone who may learn from them.
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