Turkish Posted 24 February, 2013 Share Posted 24 February, 2013 Don't know why you didn't follow Mark Lawrenson's prediction. After all he is uch a great pundit , completely above criticism. Do you know he got all the scores right yesterday?? I am completely apathetic to what Mark Lawrenson says, however after all the criticism he got for daring not to suggest we might win today felt it appropriate that the man who was labelled as being a clueless idiot unable to tip an old lady out of a wheelchair got every result prediction right. It's you that keeps on squinniny about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 24 February, 2013 Share Posted 24 February, 2013 Cherry picking a random amount of games to prove your point like a lot of the other divs on here I see. Welcome back, I've missed you. I used their last 9 Premier League games, with form like that have they been "sliding down the table", "maintaining their position" or "rising up the table" in that period? You deny the former, why is that? By all accounts a late win yesterday against the run of the game covers up a poor squad at Norwich, they won't go down but aren't anything special by any means. I'd be disappointed if Saints don't finish above them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamesaint Posted 24 February, 2013 Share Posted 24 February, 2013 I am completely apathetic to what Mark Lawrenson says Come on. I reckon you have a soft spot for men with 'taches like he used to have. :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 24 February, 2013 Share Posted 24 February, 2013 (edited) I used their last 9 Premier League games, with form like that have they been "sliding down the table", "maintaining their position" or "rising up the table" in that period? You deny the former, why is that? By all accounts a late win yesterday against the run of the game covers up a poor squad at Norwich, they won't go down but aren't anything special by any means. I'd be disappointed if Saints don't finish above them. 9 games ago they were 11th, today they are 12th. Is dropping one place 'sliding down the table' using your own hand picked amount of games in a pathetic attempt to prove your point? Thats bad, even by your usual 'Mr Wrong' standards. Why did you choose 9 games? Why not 6 or 4 or 2 or 18 or 15 or13? Edited 24 February, 2013 by Turkish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamesaint Posted 24 February, 2013 Share Posted 24 February, 2013 9 games ago they were 11th, today they are 12th. Is dropping one place 'sliding down the table' using your own hand picked amount of games in a pathetic to prove your point? Why 9 games? Why not 6 or 4 or 2 or 18 or 15 or13? and being the first Premiership team to be knocked out of the cup by a non league team is just another "hand picked " game ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 24 February, 2013 Share Posted 24 February, 2013 and being the first Premiership team to be knocked out of the cup by a non league team is just another "hand picked " game ???? What does that have to do with league form and sliding down the table claims? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamesaint Posted 24 February, 2013 Share Posted 24 February, 2013 What does that have to do with league form and sliding down the table claims? It indicatea that not all is well at Norwich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 24 February, 2013 Share Posted 24 February, 2013 I quite like Norwich and thought they looked pretty decent when they played at St Marys. They'll be fine, yesterday was a big win for them. Not in great form but doing enough. Thought they were better than quite a few teams I've seen this season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 24 February, 2013 Share Posted 24 February, 2013 It indicatea that not all is well at Norwich. Does it? chosing my own random amount of games to cherry pick to prove my point, 18 games ago they were 16th, so usuing that form over that period they are climbing up the table and 6 games ago they were 12th, today they are 12th, i would suggest this random amount of games proves they have consoldiated their position and all is very much well. Along with having an excellent young manager who could be the new Alex Ferguson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 24 February, 2013 Share Posted 24 February, 2013 What does that have to do with league form and sliding down the table claims? They had climbed to 7th and since then had fallen to 14th-a slide by any account. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 24 February, 2013 Share Posted 24 February, 2013 (edited) They were 7th and had fallen to 14th-a slide by any account. they were also 17th at one point so rocketed up the table and have no consoldated themselves in midtable if we spread our random amount of selected games to 23 if we want to prove our points. Edited 24 February, 2013 by Turkish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 24 February, 2013 Share Posted 24 February, 2013 I'm not discussing this with you again as we've already done this on another thread. http://guardian.touch-line.com/?CTID=11&CPID=4&TEID=232&pStr=League_Pos&t=3 Maybe you find pictures easier. And with that Im f**king off to the match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 24 February, 2013 Share Posted 24 February, 2013 (edited) http://guardian.touch-line.com/?CTID=11&CPID=4&TEID=232&pStr=League_Pos&t=3 Maybe you find pictures easier. And with that Im f**king off to the match. Proves my point then, they started badly, rocketed up the table and have now consolodated themselves as a midtable side. Over the last 20 games which i'm now going to cherry pick to porve my point (its easy this isn't it) they have been in midtable form, which is why they are now in midtable. Round of applause for Edited 24 February, 2013 by Turkish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamesaint Posted 24 February, 2013 Share Posted 24 February, 2013 Does it? chosing my own random amount of games to cherry pick to prove my point, 18 games ago they were 16th, so usuing that form over that period they are climbing up the table and 6 games ago they were 12th, today they are 12th, i would suggest this random amount of games proves they have consoldiated their position and all is very much well. Along with having an excellent young manager who could be the new Alex Ferguson. I agree with them having an excellent young manager. The new "Alex Ferguson" is maybe a bit too far but i think he was an excellent acqusisition for them. My Birmingham City supporting mate was very disappointed to see him leave them last season. When they played us, they were very well organiised and difficult to break down. However they do seem to have patches of good form followed by patches of poor form. They started off the season very badly but then hit a purple patch. In the last couple of months they have definitely been poor and losing at home to non league luton was really shocking. For Houghton to succeed as a manager he needs to be more consistent. Now that is a sensible response to you. I would welcome your thoughts but not if you want to carry on your childish "look at me" contrariness which you come up with on seemingly every thread. I am sure that fatherhood will make you see the world in a different way. Perhaps you might even grow up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 24 February, 2013 Share Posted 24 February, 2013 Are you genuinely suggesting that making up 6 points on Stoke is as likely surrendering 10 to QPR? QPR are dreadful, they've won 2 games all season. They will need to win 4 or the bounce JUST to get to where we are now. If we finish below them I will throw myself off the Itchen Bridge, whilst every journalist in the country is busy ripping his cock off over how Redknapp is the second coming of Christ. 10th is a realistic aim. No reason we should be looking over our shoulders all season. If we play like we did against Man City, we will beat the likes of QPR, Newcastle, Norwich and Reading in the next few weeks. We've also got West Ham, Stoke and West Brom at St Marys. No reason at all we can't win 4 of those 7 games and that's us safe on 39 points. It is still realistic for us to finish bottom. I'm playing by your rules here. One game at a time. Reading were dead and buried and didn't look like they'd get more than one or two wins all season - in the space of a few games they caught us up. Looking at the fixtures is next to useless - how many times this season was there the belief that we'd win certain games and didn't, or we'd never win but did? Proves my point then, they started badly, rocketed up the table and have now consolodated themselves as a midtable side. Over the last 20 games which i'm now going to cherry pick to porve my point (its easy this isn't it) they have been in midtable form, which is why they are now in midtable. Round of applause for Is there a 'Mr. Realist'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 24 February, 2013 Share Posted 24 February, 2013 (edited) I agree with them having an excellent young manager. The new "Alex Ferguson" is maybe a bit too far but i think he was an excellent acqusisition for them. My Birmingham City supporting mate was very disappointed to see him leave them last season. When they played us, they were very well organiised and difficult to break down. However they do seem to have patches of good form followed by patches of poor form. They started off the season very badly but then hit a purple patch. In the last couple of months they have definitely been poor and losing at home to non league luton was really shocking. For Houghton to succeed as a manager he needs to be more consistent. Now that is a sensible response to you. I would welcome your thoughts but not if you want to carry on your childish "look at me" contrariness which you come up with on seemingly every thread. I am sure that fatherhood will make you see the world in a different way. Perhaps you might even grow up. Wasn't Nigel Adkins the new Alex Ferguson a few months ago? Why was he this but Houghton not? of course they have patches of good form and patches of bad form, thats why they are midtable, if they were permenantly in good form they'd be near the top, permenantly in bad form near the bottom. You dont win one, lose one, draw one in that order over 38 games when you're a midtable side. It's very easy to cherry pick a random amount of games as people have done to try to prove their point that they are sliding down the table or rocketing up it. The reality is that they are doing neither and like most midtable sides will probably flit between 8-14th for most of the season, possibly looking like flirting with relegation or Europe if they have an extended run of good or bad form but will eventaully finish somewhere in between. Edited 24 February, 2013 by Turkish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamesaint Posted 24 February, 2013 Share Posted 24 February, 2013 Wasn't Nigel Adkins the new Alex Ferguson a few months ago? Why was he this but Houghton not? of course they have patches of good form and patches of bad form, thats why they are midtable, if they were permenantly in good form they'd be near the top, permenantly in bad form near the bottom. You dont win one, lose one, draw one in that order over 38 games when you're a midtable side. It's very easy to cherry pick a random amount of games as people have done to try to prove their point that they are sliding down the table or rocketing up it. The reality is that they are doing neither and like most midtable sides will probably flit between 8-14th for most of the season, possibly looking like flirting with relegation or Europe if they have an extended run of good or bad form but will eventaully finish somewhere in between. I think you are right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slickmick Posted 24 February, 2013 Share Posted 24 February, 2013 Wasn't Nigel Adkins the new Alex Ferguson a few months ago? Why was he this but Houghton not? of course they have patches of good form and patches of bad form, thats why they are midtable, if they were permenantly in good form they'd be near the top, permenantly in bad form near the bottom. You dont win one, lose one, draw one in that order over 38 games when you're a midtable side. It's very easy to cherry pick a random amount of games as people have done to try to prove their point that they are sliding down the table or rocketing up it. The reality is that they are doing neither and like most midtable sides will probably flit between 8-14th for most of the season, possibly looking like flirting with relegation or Europe if they have an extended run of good or bad form but will eventaully finish somewhere in between. So what is current form ? How maany games would you say is current ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 24 February, 2013 Share Posted 24 February, 2013 Proves my point then, they started badly, rocketed up the table and have now consolodated themselves as a midtable side. Over the last 20 games which i'm now going to cherry pick to porve my point (its easy this isn't it) they have been in midtable form, which is why they are now in midtable. Round of applause for Chris Hughton could have done with your tortuous logic. He conceded Norwich were in poor form. And we're not discussing whether they are a midtable side. We're discussing their form. Before yesterday, they hadn't won in 9 games. That's not cherry picking, that's worrying form by any reasonable standard. If we were winless in our last 9 (regardless of draws), people on here would be wetting themselves. FACT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 24 February, 2013 Share Posted 24 February, 2013 (edited) Chris Hughton could have done with your tortuous logic. He conceded Norwich were in poor form. And we're not discussing whether they are a midtable side. We're discussing their form. Before yesterday, they hadn't won in 9 games. That's not cherry picking, that's worrying form by any reasonable standard. If we were winless in our last 9 (regardless of draws), people on here would be wetting themselves. FACT Why would we not include yesterday in their current form guide? Over their last 20 games they are in midtable form, over their last 6 they've only lost once, form which was hailed as a glorious upturn by some on here when it was us on a similar run. It's easy spin stats and to select a random amount of games to try to prove a point. They are 12th and midtable, have been midtable for the vast majority of the season and will highly likely finish midtable. That's not tortous logic, it's FACT. Edited 24 February, 2013 by Turkish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 24 February, 2013 Share Posted 24 February, 2013 Before yesterday, they hadn't won in 9 games. That's not cherry picking, that's worrying form by any reasonable standard. If we were winless in our last 9 (regardless of draws), people on here would be wetting themselves. FACT We done that at the start of the season. We weren't in poor form tho cos if you extend back to include the previous 2 seasons we was in fact on winning streak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 24 February, 2013 Share Posted 24 February, 2013 Why would we not include yesterday in their current form guide? Over their last 20 games they are in midtable form, over their last 6 they've only lost once, form which was hailed as a glorious upturn by some on here when it was us on a similar run. It's easy spin stats and to select a random amount of games to try to prove a point. They are 12th and midtable, have been midtable for the vast majority of the season and will highly likely finish midtable. That's not tortous logic, it's FACT. Their first win in ten and two and a half months - they must be relieved they've stopped the rot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 24 February, 2013 Share Posted 24 February, 2013 We done that at the start of the season. We weren't in poor form tho cos if you extend back to include the previous 2 seasons we was in fact on winning streak. Yep but it's not Xmas 2003. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 24 February, 2013 Share Posted 24 February, 2013 (edited) Their first win in ten and two and a half months - they must be relieved they've stopped the rot. And despite all this In your specially selected 9 games their slide down the table has seen them drop a huge one place. In my specially selected last 3 games where we are allowed to use yesterday's result they are in great form, 1 win 2 draws, 5 points, top half form that isn't it. Edited 24 February, 2013 by Turkish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 24 February, 2013 Share Posted 24 February, 2013 they only dropped 1 place in that time as this seasons prem is pretty awful in comparison to recent years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 24 February, 2013 Share Posted 24 February, 2013 they only dropped 1 place in that time as this seasons prem is pretty awful in comparison to recent years You can only beat what's In front of you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 24 February, 2013 Share Posted 24 February, 2013 You can only beat what's In front of you. yeah.we are all not that good...despite us being brilliant and others not being so...or something like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 24 February, 2013 Share Posted 24 February, 2013 Their first win in ten and two and a half months - they must be relieved they've stopped the rot. Meanwhile the unstoppable red hot Saints have won a blistering, breathtaking two in ten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 24 February, 2013 Share Posted 24 February, 2013 not going well is it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 24 February, 2013 Share Posted 24 February, 2013 not going well is it... In fairness, if we had won, we'd be very close indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 24 February, 2013 Share Posted 24 February, 2013 I would happily settle for a top 17 finish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 24 February, 2013 Share Posted 24 February, 2013 In fairness, if we had won, we'd be very close indeed. and if we'd won every game we'd be top. I expect more from you young Andy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 24 February, 2013 Share Posted 24 February, 2013 and if we'd won every game we'd be top. I expect more from you young Andy. Because that is exactly what has been said. We were up against Newcastle at one point and it was a winnable game, therefore it was not an unreasonable prediction to make given that had the score stayed the same, we'd be 3 from 10th and 6 from relegation. But we didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 24 February, 2013 Share Posted 24 February, 2013 Because that is exactly what has been said. We were up against Newcastle at one point and it was a winnable game, therefore it was not an unreasonable prediction to make given that had the score stayed the same, we'd be 3 from 10th and 6 from relegation. But we didn't. We could all make up hypothetical scenarios on where we might be if results had been different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 24 February, 2013 Share Posted 24 February, 2013 not going well is it... Don't let Sh*tehouse hear you say that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 24 February, 2013 Share Posted 24 February, 2013 I see the bed wetters are out in force again. We are still only 6 points of 10th, could easily be achievable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 24 February, 2013 Share Posted 24 February, 2013 I see the bed wetters are out in force again. We are still only 6 points of 10th, could easily be achievable. Er.....are you for real ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 24 February, 2013 Share Posted 24 February, 2013 The poor run continues for struggling Southampton as their slide down the table starts to gather pace. one win in 6 now, with a record of DDLDWL far worse than the form over the last six games Norwich were lamblasted for only this morning by our forum geniuses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 24 February, 2013 Share Posted 24 February, 2013 I see the bed wetters are out in force again. We are still only 6 points of 10th, could easily be achievable. yet, why havent we been above 15th all season...surely it has been 'easily' achievable all season.. 13th was in our grasp today, and now we are 16th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 24 February, 2013 Share Posted 24 February, 2013 yet, why havent we been above 15th all season...surely it has been 'easily' achievable all season.. 13th was in our grasp today, and now we are 16th I don't think there is much at all between the sides from Swansea down. A good run of form from almost any of the teams betweens 10th and 16th could see them get 10th spot IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 24 February, 2013 Share Posted 24 February, 2013 I don't think there is much at all between the sides from swansea down. a good run of form from almost any of the teams betweens 10th and 16th could see them get 10th spot IMO. yeah, good run of form...something we have done all season so why now..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
110_Persaint Posted 24 February, 2013 Share Posted 24 February, 2013 I'll take 17th RIGHT NOW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 24 February, 2013 Share Posted 24 February, 2013 yeah, good run of form...something we have done all season so why now..? Same could be said for most teams 3 or 6 points above us. Why do you think it's impossible for us to have a good run of form? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 24 February, 2013 Share Posted 24 February, 2013 I'll take 17th RIGHT NOW. How dare you. We COULD finish 10th. It's not impossible. Look at the teams we play and the points we're surely going to get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 24 February, 2013 Share Posted 24 February, 2013 Same could be said for most teams 3 or 6 points above us. Why do you think it's impossible for us to have a good run of form? they are better than us though..and have been almost all season.. they are constantly described as terrible, crap on a dire run of form what does that say about us though, not once have we been above 15th place im fine with that as I am a realist in that a 10th place finish is very much, highly unlikely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 24 February, 2013 Share Posted 24 February, 2013 How dare you. We COULD finish 10th. It's not impossible. Look at the teams we play and the points we're surely going to get. Not only is it not impossible it's highly likey, Norwich are sliding down table, they've gone from 11th to 12th in 3 months dontcha know. We've only got them, that clueless idiot BFS and his team of donkeys, long ball merchants Newcastle with that clown Pardew in charge and a few other jokers to rocket past, we are brilliant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 24 February, 2013 Share Posted 24 February, 2013 Not only is it not impossible it's highly likey, Norwich are sliding down table, they've gone from 11th to 12th in 3 months dontcha know. We've only got them, that clueless idiot BFS and his team of donkeys, long ball merchants Newcastle with that clown Pardew in charge and a few other jokers to rocket past, we are brilliant. Let's analyse, who have we got left? Chelsea coming up, we'll definitely beat them - after all we beat City. This is easy. Come on lads. Push for Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 24 February, 2013 Share Posted 24 February, 2013 Let's analyse, who have we got left? Chelsea coming up, we'll definitely beat them - after all we beat City. This is easy. Come on lads. Push for Europe. We scored 3 at QPR so with home advantage and that terrible manager Redknapp in charge we'll probably win next Saturday about 7-0. Norwich are sliding down the table and in terrible form so a win against them is guranteed too. 6 points coming up and a positive goal difference by the 10th March. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max_saints Posted 2 March, 2013 Share Posted 2 March, 2013 are we still pushing for a top 10 finish? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 2 March, 2013 Share Posted 2 March, 2013 are we still pushing for a top 10 finish? This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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