Andre Posted 20 February, 2013 Share Posted 20 February, 2013 So it's not spam, but I wrote a blog post on the most expensive Southampton lineup ever... because I... like doing stuff like that. It's interesting how cheaply we were able to get certain players over the years, and considering the exports we've made (Bale, Walcott, etc.) I think we're a pretty damn good business! I'll put the lineup below, so you don't have to read the blog, but it's a bit more in-depth if you wanna take a look. Basically, our most expensive XI is still less than Fernando Torres. And yes... I know my name is stupid. GK: Paulo Gazzaniga, £2.5m RB: Nathaniel Clyne, £2.5m CB: Rory Delap, £4m CB: Vegard Forren, £4.2m LB: Jelle Van Damme, £2m CM: David Prutton, £2.5m CM: Nigel Quashie, £2.1m AM: Gastón Ramírez, £12m RF: Jay Rodriguez, £6.5m CF: Kevin Phillips, £3.25m LF: Emmanuel Mayuka, £3m Total cost: £44.55m Torres cost: £50m (lol) http://andrepusey1.wordpress.com/2013/02/20/most-expensive-saints-xi/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 20 February, 2013 Share Posted 20 February, 2013 We'd get murdered down the right. Also, can't Prutton and Quashie play in front of the back 4 so we can play 4-2-3-1 or are you planning on getting sacked for being free-thinking and tactically adept ? That's adept, not inept. To be fair to Torres, he did score one of the funniest goals in football history when he counterattacked the 10 Barca players in Chelsea's penalty area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pingwing Posted 20 February, 2013 Share Posted 20 February, 2013 That's pretty funny just on raw transfer spending! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 20 February, 2013 Share Posted 20 February, 2013 [quote=Andre;1628998 GK: Paulo Gazzaniga, £2.5m We didn't pay that much for him did we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
110_Persaint Posted 20 February, 2013 Share Posted 20 February, 2013 Brilliant Let's enjoy this while it lasts... before the start of next season I doubt we'll be less than Ronaldo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ant Posted 20 February, 2013 Share Posted 20 February, 2013 We didn't pay that much for him did we? Thereabouts. "Some media sources claimed that the transfer fee paid by Southampton for Paulo Gazzaniga in 2012 was higher than that paid for Robert Taylor, but the fee was not officially disclosed by either club." Gillingham received £1.5m for Taylor from Manchester City. Transfermarkt reports it as £2.77m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
110_Persaint Posted 20 February, 2013 Share Posted 20 February, 2013 Thereabouts. "Some media sources claimed that the transfer fee paid by Southampton for Paulo Gazzaniga in 2012 was higher than that paid for Robert Taylor, but the fee was not officially disclosed by either club." Gillingham received £1.5m for Taylor from Manchester City. Transfermarkt reports it as £2.77m. Worth every penny IMO. It's ridiculous the number of times he got us out of jail this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 20 February, 2013 Share Posted 20 February, 2013 ******** did we pay that much for him. And if we did it won't be straight up it'll be based on apps etc. An if we did pay that for him...don't you think Gillingham would have spent some money this year?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norwaysaint Posted 20 February, 2013 Share Posted 20 February, 2013 Maybe somebody can do one comparing what they think the actual value of those players was against what the actual value of Torres. i would do it myself but... no actually I wouldn't ever do it myself. Didn't Delgado cost 3.5million, plus I always think we have to say he was really 4.5 million, but for some reason we had to pretend a million of it was for kleber Chala. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berkshire Saint Posted 20 February, 2013 Share Posted 20 February, 2013 We didn't pay that much for him did we? Exactly my thoughts...anything over £500k for him would be pretty ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Armstrong Posted 20 February, 2013 Share Posted 20 February, 2013 I'd always understood the Gazzaniga fee to be £2m.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 21 February, 2013 Share Posted 21 February, 2013 I'd always understood the Gazzaniga fee to be £2m.... 2 million too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 21 February, 2013 Share Posted 21 February, 2013 Torres cost nearly 1000 times what we paid for the best CF ever, £55k for Big Ron, just shows stupid money in football these days. Even inflation cannot account for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andre Posted 22 February, 2013 Author Share Posted 22 February, 2013 We'd get murdered down the right. Also, can't Prutton and Quashie play in front of the back 4 so we can play 4-2-3-1 or are you planning on getting sacked for being free-thinking and tactically adept ? That's adept, not inept. Haha yeah, that formation would be more likely, but we'd be really thin in the middle then... either way it's not an ideal lineup, I just took the most expensive players! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 22 February, 2013 Share Posted 22 February, 2013 Anyone know what the most expensive Saints team would be in terms of sales for each position? My guess is it would be something like: Flowers, Kenna, Richards, Hall, Bridge, Walcott, Ox-C, Surman?, Bale, Davies, Beattie but I without looking it up I could be wildly wrong... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junior Mullet Posted 22 February, 2013 Share Posted 22 February, 2013 Anyone know what the most expensive Saints team would be in terms of sales for each position? My guess is it would be something like: Flowers, Kenna, Richards, Hall, Bridge, Walcott, Ox-C, Surman?, Bale, Davies, Beattie but I without looking it up I could be wildly wrong... Crouch and Kenwyn possibly? What do we think our current team are worth, assuming contracts weren't just about to end? 'Worth' = what you would expect someone to pay for them, not what the club would be willing to sell them for. Boruc - £3m Shaw - £15m Fonte - £3m Yoshida - £5m Clyne - £7m Cork - £6m Schneiderlin - £12m Lallana - £12m Lambo - £5m Punch - £5m Jay Rod - £12m = £85m Subs: Gaston - £14m Hoidveld - £1m Fox - £750k Ward-Prowse - £5m Mayuka - £3.5m Davis - £1.5m Gazza - £2m = £28m odd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andre Posted 22 February, 2013 Author Share Posted 22 February, 2013 Anyone know what the most expensive Saints team would be in terms of sales for each position? My guess is it would be something like: Flowers, Kenna, Richards, Hall, Bridge, Walcott, Ox-C, Surman?, Bale, Davies, Beattie but I without looking it up I could be wildly wrong... I did look that up as well, pretty much on the money there. Stats below. Sort of weird that there are so many strikers, but you can put them in a sort of 3-4-3 if you wanna play Jones and Walcott as playmakers... doesn't really work! GK: Tim Flowers - £2.4m RB: Chris Baird - £3.025m CB: Dean Richards - £8.1m LB: Wayne Bridge - £7m RM: Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain - £15m LM: Gareth Bale - £10m RF: Theo Walcott - £12m LF: Kenwyne Jones - £6m ST: Kevin Davies - £7.5m ST: Peter Crouch - £7m ST: James Beattie - £6m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 22 February, 2013 Share Posted 22 February, 2013 I'd have thought Niemi was more expensive than Gazza. The latter I could have sworn was about £1.5m with a few add ons for apps etc. Niemi was at least £2m up front I think. Also In defence Killer and Hooiveld were both a shade over £2m so you could have them in for McQ, with Delap moving to his place in midfield. Up front I think Tin Man cost marginally more than Mayuka. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 22 February, 2013 Share Posted 22 February, 2013 I did look that up as well, pretty much on the money there. Stats below. Sort of weird that there are so many strikers, but you can put them in a sort of 3-4-3 if you wanna play Jones and Walcott as playmakers... doesn't really work! GK: Tim Flowers - £2.4m RB: Chris Baird - £3.025m CB: Dean Richards - £8.1m LB: Wayne Bridge - £7m RM: Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain - £15m LM: Gareth Bale - £10m RF: Theo Walcott - £12m LF: Kenwyne Jones - £6m ST: Kevin Davies - £7.5m ST: Peter Crouch - £7m ST: James Beattie - £6m Put Shearer in goal and you can increase the value of the team (£3.6m) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
110_Persaint Posted 22 February, 2013 Share Posted 22 February, 2013 Crouch and Kenwyn possibly? What do we think our current team are worth, assuming contracts weren't just about to end? 'Worth' = what you would expect someone to pay for them, not what the club would be willing to sell them for. Boruc - £3m Shaw - £15m Fonte - £3m Yoshida - £5m Clyne - £7m Cork - £6m Schneiderlin - £12m Lallana - £12m Lambo - £5m Punch - £5m Jay Rod - £12m = £85m Subs: Gaston - £14m Hoidveld - £1m Fox - £750k Ward-Prowse - £5m Mayuka - £3.5m Davis - £1.5m Gazza - £2m = £28m odd Literally loled. Please tell me you're not serious? If someone offered us £10m for this pair combined I'd bite their arm off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 22 February, 2013 Share Posted 22 February, 2013 Literally loled. Please tell me you're not serious? If someone offered us £10m for this pair combined I'd bite their arm off. Do you actually know anything at all about football? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 22 February, 2013 Share Posted 22 February, 2013 u trying to say that buying players for £19m giving them half season and then selling for £10m ain't sound business plan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
110_Persaint Posted 22 February, 2013 Share Posted 22 February, 2013 Do you actually know anything at all about football? Even if I knew nothing at all, I'd have to be either blind or a f**king knobhead to think JayRod is worth £12m based on his performances this season, and to think Gaston is worth half of whatever we paid for him, based on his performances this season. And I'm neither blind nor a knobhead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 22 February, 2013 Share Posted 22 February, 2013 Even if I knew nothing at all, I'd have to be either blind or a f**king knobhead to think JayRod is worth £12m based on his performances this season, and to think Gaston is worth half of whatever we paid for him, based on his performances this season. And I'm neither blind nor a knobhead. This year (2013) JRod has been brilliant. So I don't really get where you think he will have devalued at all, I'm not even going to ask where you got this £12m figure. For £7m, he looks fine. Considering players like Downing & Henderson go for the £20m mark, I don't think it's that unrealistic to think JRod is worth around £7-10m. Gaston at 1/2 value is £6m. Errrm yeah, he is EASILY worth that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
110_Persaint Posted 22 February, 2013 Share Posted 22 February, 2013 If you think any club in their right mind is willing to shell out more than £10m for a pair of very attack-minded players (quite often employed as forwards) with 6 league goals between them in a season of shedloads of appearances then you are seriously deluded I am sorry to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 22 February, 2013 Share Posted 22 February, 2013 If you think any club in their right mind is willing to shell out more than £10m for a pair of very attack-minded players (quite often employed as forwards) with 6 league goals between them in a season of shedloads of appearances then you are seriously deluded I am sorry to say. As deluded as paying £50m on a striker at his peak, clearly on the decline, and having only once scored more than 20 League goals. Gaston is not a striker. And JRod has barely played as an out-and-out striker, although his goals return when he has played up top (more often in the cup) hasn't been too bad. Neither have had really extended runs in the team, Gaston particularly has had bad luck with injuries settling in a new country. If you can't see that the pair both have excellent potential, from what is limited time in their first season in the premier league, you are seriously ignorant. Potential comes at a premium if you hadn't noticed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andre Posted 22 February, 2013 Author Share Posted 22 February, 2013 Jay Rodriguez has gone up in value IMO. Not by a lot, mind, but if I was wanting to sell I'd be asking for... let's say £10mil (maybe 8.5). Gaston, on the other hand... down to 10 I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southbourne saint Posted 22 February, 2013 Share Posted 22 February, 2013 Jay Rodriguez has gone up in value IMO. Not by a lot, mind, but if I was wanting to sell I'd be asking for... let's say £10mil (maybe 8.5). Gaston, on the other hand... down to 10 I suppose. Would Torres get in out first eleven. Serious question your thoughts please no place in our team is my opinio for what its worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 22 February, 2013 Share Posted 22 February, 2013 Would Torres get in out first eleven. Serious question your thoughts please no place in our team is my opinio for what its worth. Not currently but I reckon he'd love a change of scenery - would he play better with our players around him? Possibly. Still there's not many strikers good enough to play the lone strikers role, as Lambert is doing exceptionally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 22 February, 2013 Share Posted 22 February, 2013 Jay Rod - £12m Gaston - £14m Disagree strongly on these two. JRod has been decent so far this year but hasn't done enough for other clubs to think he's worth double what we paid imo. Gaston has so far been a flop at £12m. He isn't consistent and never performs away from home. If anything I think his price has gone down to around £8m. Let's be honest with ourselves here, if Gaston had signed for someone like Reading for £12m and performed the same as he has for us, would we consider him worth that amount of money or would we call him a flop? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junior Mullet Posted 22 February, 2013 Share Posted 22 February, 2013 JRod is going to be a seriously good player in the near future. I've been impressed with the way he had progressed with us. He will get a good run in the team under MP and the team works well with him as the leading forward and Lambo tucked in behind with a licence to roam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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