Dig Dig Posted 20 February, 2013 Posted 20 February, 2013 I'm a Saints ambassador and I do it for free and at my own expense!
Sour Mash Posted 20 February, 2013 Posted 20 February, 2013 im curious how a completely terrible player for 90% of his appearances is worth £500 a game in ambassadorial duties... You think £500 is a lot of money for something like that?
Thedelldays Posted 20 February, 2013 Posted 20 February, 2013 You think £500 is a lot of money for something like that? for benali....absolutely
Sour Mash Posted 20 February, 2013 Posted 20 February, 2013 for benali....absolutely With all due respect, it really isn't & you're a bit out of touch with the real world if you think it is.
Thedelldays Posted 20 February, 2013 Posted 20 February, 2013 With all due respect, it really isn't & you're a bit out of touch with the real world if you think it is. well, there is a dispute about it isnt there..?
Give it to Ron Posted 20 February, 2013 Posted 20 February, 2013 With all due respect, it really isn't & you're a bit out of touch with the real world if you think it is. Thats 2 of us then totally out of touch....not exactly a top drawer is he...funnily enough he is more of a legend since he has retired than when he put in numerous crap performances and got boo'ed by the East Stand lot. £500 for a couple of hours work! Le Tiss , Big Ron, Terry Paine maybe but cripes he was a less than average full back.
Sour Mash Posted 20 February, 2013 Posted 20 February, 2013 well, there is a dispute about it isnt there..? Correct.
Sour Mash Posted 20 February, 2013 Posted 20 February, 2013 Thats 2 of us then totally out of touch....not exactly a top drawer is he...funnily enough he is more of a legend since he has retired than when he put in numerous crap performances and got boo'ed by the East Stand lot. £500 for a couple of hours work! Le Tiss , Big Ron, Terry Paine maybe but cripes he was a less than average full back. Try booking a real unknown Z list celeb for an afternoon. Or someone to host a corporate event. They'll charge a lot more than £500.
Sour Mash Posted 20 February, 2013 Posted 20 February, 2013 (edited) Thats 2 of us then totally out of touch....not exactly a top drawer is he...funnily enough he is more of a legend since he has retired than when he put in numerous crap performances and got boo'ed by the East Stand lot. £500 for a couple of hours work! Le Tiss , Big Ron, Terry Paine maybe but cripes he was a less than average full back. Edit: double post. Edited 20 February, 2013 by Sour Mash
aintforever Posted 20 February, 2013 Posted 20 February, 2013 Thats 2 of us then totally out of touch....not exactly a top drawer is he...funnily enough he is more of a legend since he has retired than when he put in numerous crap performances and got boo'ed by the East Stand lot. £500 for a couple of hours work! Le Tiss , Big Ron, Terry Paine maybe but cripes he was a less than average full back. £500 is not exactly top drawer money.
Thedelldays Posted 20 February, 2013 Posted 20 February, 2013 Try booking a real unknown Z list celeb for an afternoon. Or someone to host a corporate event. They'll charge a lot more than £500. will they...tell us about it
aintforever Posted 20 February, 2013 Posted 20 February, 2013 will they...tell us about it Well you could get a sh!t borat look-a-like for £900... http://www.alivenetwork.com/bandpage.asp?bandname=Borat%20(Kazakh%20Dan)&style=Look%20a%20likes
Sour Mash Posted 20 February, 2013 Posted 20 February, 2013 will they...tell us about it I will explain this very slowly to you DellDays...£500.....for such a role....is not.....a lot.....of money......in the real world......
Thedelldays Posted 20 February, 2013 Posted 20 February, 2013 I will explain this very slowly to you DellDays...£500.....for such a role....is not.....a lot.....of money......in the real world...... again..do tell us about and all the z list celebs you have booked..? oh, we are in the real world and I guess, some think it is too much..hence the dispute
Sour Mash Posted 20 February, 2013 Posted 20 February, 2013 Thats 2 of us then totally out of touch....not exactly a top drawer is he...funnily enough he is more of a legend since he has retired than when he put in numerous crap performances and got boo'ed by the East Stand lot. £500 for a couple of hours work! Le Tiss , Big Ron, Terry Paine maybe but cripes he was a less than average full back. Also, just on that point, yes everyone knew he wasn't a great player, but he was always popular with fans, hence the whole Benali day thing at Oldham. Plus he must have been doing something right to continue getting picked by different managers. And he was popular for being a local lad, with a spot on attitude, think everyone knows that.
Sour Mash Posted 20 February, 2013 Posted 20 February, 2013 again..do tell us about and all the z list celebs you have booked..? oh, we are in the real world and I guess, some think it is too much..hence the dispute Maybe try life off this forum and your submarine you might not get so excited by £500
Thedelldays Posted 20 February, 2013 Posted 20 February, 2013 Maybe try life off this forum and your submarine you might not get so excited by £500 so, you have no idea then..... oh, i dont actually work on one by the way
CB Fry Posted 20 February, 2013 Posted 20 February, 2013 again..do tell us about and all the z list celebs you have booked..? oh, we are in the real world and I guess, some think it is too much..hence the dispute Since when was the dispute about the going rate for corporate entertaining? Its about a few things but that isn't actually one of them.
moonraker Posted 20 February, 2013 Posted 20 February, 2013 Having been responsible for booking a number of celebrity types for various functions, £500 is cheap, fees start at about £2500, if you want someone you might actually have heard of you can at least double that double. So £500 whilst might sound a lot it is not in the celebrity appearance market. NB The term celebrity has been used in a generic sense as we all know Franni is not a celebrity!
harvey Posted 20 February, 2013 Posted 20 February, 2013 Thats 2 of us then totally out of touch....not exactly a top drawer is he...funnily enough he is more of a legend since he has retired than when he put in numerous crap performances and got boo'ed by the East Stand lot. £500 for a couple of hours work! Le Tiss , Big Ron, Terry Paine maybe but cripes he was a less than average full back.
so22saint Posted 21 February, 2013 Posted 21 February, 2013 again..do tell us about and all the z list celebs you have booked..? oh, we are in the real world and I guess, some think it is too much..hence the dispute Rory McGrath. he is 5 grand for an evening. as was Giles Brandreth. the company i used to work booked both of these.
sotonist Posted 21 February, 2013 Posted 21 February, 2013 Rory McGrath. he is 5 grand for an evening. as was Giles Brandreth. the company i used to work booked both of these. Congratulations on your escape.
Turkish Posted 21 February, 2013 Posted 21 February, 2013 again..do tell us about and all the z list celebs you have booked..? oh, we are in the real world and I guess, some think it is too much..hence the dispute Paul Merson cost a mate of mine £2k to hire for an evening at her work, she then blew him out when he tried to get her back to his room.
um pahars Posted 21 February, 2013 Posted 21 February, 2013 Seems as though Benali is a bit less than super sub David Fairclough!!!! http://www.unitoneentertainment.co.uk/after_dinner_speakers_football.html#Low_-_High again..do tell us about and all the z list celebs you have booked..? oh, we are in the real world and I guess, some think it is too much..hence the dispute
dubai_phil Posted 21 February, 2013 Posted 21 February, 2013 I was hosting a corp event in Aus some years back. We had the chance to get Steve Irwin for the evening. US$15,000 for the night. To my eternal heartbreak, we didn't. We got a guy from Australia Zoo instead, it still cost us $2500. A standard Radio Jock as MC for a night over here is US$1,000 minimum. Me? I just charge free beer, with the price of it over here perhaps that's why I never get any gigs. Oh, a standard mid-range ranked 30-100 European Tour Golfer is $50,000 a day for Corporate golf events, and a Getty Images Snapper to just do a photo shoot for your company (or wedding etc) is between US$5-7,500. HTH
brmbrm Posted 21 February, 2013 Posted 21 February, 2013 Dilapidations to the house....! He should have rented it through an estate agent, paid their fees, and let them sort things out,not least because everything would have been written down in a contract . Unrelated to the thread maybe, but getting an agent does absolutley **** all to help!!!! They just weant their monthly slice. Rent coming in? Not my rent, just take the slice. Unpaid anything? Not my problem. We've let our house a few tiomes when away, and agents give you zero apart form management in case of property repairs etc. You just need good tenants. If there is no substance to the claims, there will be no payments from Cortese/SFC. If there is, there will be. Specious court actions do not go down at all well
ericofarabia Posted 21 February, 2013 Posted 21 February, 2013 Having been responsible for booking a number of celebrity types for various functions, £500 is cheap, fees start at about £2500, if you want someone you might actually have heard of you can at least double that double. So £500 whilst might sound a lot it is not in the celebrity appearance market. NB The term celebrity has been used in a generic sense as we all know Franni is not a celebrity! Maybe not outside the immediate confines of Southampton, but I'd rather have him than some half wit daytime TV nonentity at a local function, or more importantly at an SFC Corporate Hospitality day.
Give it to Ron Posted 21 February, 2013 Posted 21 February, 2013 Try booking a real unknown Z list celeb for an afternoon. Or someone to host a corporate event. They'll charge a lot more than £500. We did and he did it for free......I give you one Mr Ricky Lambert and he is A list!!! I will also add Frannie did it as well for our Sunday side but there was a link with the club. There is a big difference though isn't there between hiring a celebrity and having one of your ex players hosting at a match. From what you all say though £500 does seem on the small side then.
Hatch Posted 21 February, 2013 Posted 21 February, 2013 it's in The Sun today as well. They say figure is £50,000
OldNick Posted 21 February, 2013 Posted 21 February, 2013 I was not Frannies greatest fan but it is not right that he is belittled so on here. He gave his best and whilst he drove me to distraction he is still a Saint. If £500 is low to hire a celeb for a few hours, it shows how pathetic our society is desperate to be in such a persons company.
Mustapha Fag Posted 21 February, 2013 Posted 21 February, 2013 im not reading all this but did anyone mention Benali and his ex business partner allegedly going bust owing the club money on office rental etc at the stadium? if true i wonder how much was owed
hypochondriac Posted 21 February, 2013 Posted 21 February, 2013 I was not Frannies greatest fan but it is not right that he is belittled so on here. He gave his best and whilst he drove me to distraction he is still a Saint. If £500 is low to hire a celeb for a few hours, it shows how pathetic our society is desperate to be in such a persons company. It's not right but it's par for the course on here.
trousers Posted 21 February, 2013 Posted 21 February, 2013 (edited) I was looking for a "minor celeb" to turn up at a charity quiz night event I was organising about 10 years ago....phoned around a few agencies and the cheapest they could offer was "Big Ron from Eastenders" (the market stall holder who had one line a year!) and he was £2,500. We ended up 'pretending' to book Stu "I could crush a grape" Francis only to announce on the night that he had to cancel "due to unforeseen" circumstances (well, we thought it was amusing at the time...) Edited 21 February, 2013 by trousers
Matthew Le Tissier Posted 21 February, 2013 Posted 21 February, 2013 If you rented out a house and had a room that was locked with all your personal belongings in and agreed by both parties on the agreement to be left alone. And the door was locked in and the items removed and dumped in a training ground storeroom I wouldn't be happy. Allegedly I think there's alot more to it than suggested in this thread!
Bearsy Posted 21 February, 2013 Posted 21 February, 2013 cortese accessed frannies secret sex dungeon
Bearsy Posted 21 February, 2013 Posted 21 February, 2013 in other news if I'm living in a house and there is locked door and people is telling me whatever you do, don't open that door... I'm definitely opening that door. Human nature!
Thedelldays Posted 21 February, 2013 Posted 21 February, 2013 If you rented out a house and had a room that was locked with all your personal belongings in and agreed by both parties on the agreement to be left alone. And the door was locked in and the items removed and dumped in a training ground storeroom I wouldn't be happy. Allegedly I think there's alot more to it than suggested in this thread! If you rent out a house. By law you rent out a house...not certain rooms
The Kraken Posted 21 February, 2013 Posted 21 February, 2013 If you rent out a house. By law you rent out a house...not certain rooms What happens by law if you just enter into an agreement to rent, say, just one bedroom of a shared house? Or two bedrooms? Without seeing the contract you simply have no idea what was rented and what wasn't. There are all sorts of permutations, particularly in a house the size of the one in question.
Matthew Le Tissier Posted 21 February, 2013 Posted 21 February, 2013 If you rent out a house. By law you rent out a house...not certain rooms Errr no So if you have a house. Like a student house lets say. Or a sheltered accommodation property. With seperate lockable rooms Can everyone break into everyone's rooms and pinch things . Also what if both party's solicitors walked round the house and set the rules out from the start and added them in the contract? You don't know what your in about in afraid .
Thedelldays Posted 21 February, 2013 Posted 21 February, 2013 Actually no. You rent a whole property in an assured shorthold tenancy for a minimum of 6 months This was not a student house where individual rooms were rented where the landlord would effectively be responsible for the communal areas and at times, bills as you are letting rooms not the property
The Kraken Posted 21 February, 2013 Posted 21 February, 2013 Actually no. You rent a whole property in an assured shorthold tenancy for a minimum of 6 months This was not a student house where individual rooms were rented where the landlord would effectively be responsible for the communal areas and at times, bills as you are letting rooms not the property So have you seen the contract, and do you know what it does and doesn't cover? I think we know the answer is "no".
The9 Posted 21 February, 2013 Posted 21 February, 2013 There wasn't any bloody contract, that's precisely the problem. Also, the dispute about the £500s is not in any way to do with whether Benali is worth £500 an appearance, even Cortese appears to have paid him every time he did it (except possibly in Dec 09), what he also did was ensure he didn't get more than £1000 a month due to those appearances by preventing Benali accessing the stadium.
VectisSaint Posted 21 February, 2013 Posted 21 February, 2013 If you rent out a house. By law you rent out a house...not certain rooms Simply not true. Nothing more to say really. Renting a house with some rooms inaccessible is perfectly legal and very common.
um pahars Posted 22 February, 2013 Posted 22 February, 2013 If you rent out a house. By law you rent out a house...not certain rooms Not true at all. Obviously depends on contact to to contract, but it is very common to have a room or loft or shed locked and deemed inaccessible for the tenant. I've rented a three bedroom house where the third bedroom, a cupboard and one of the two garden sheds was out of bounds.
Bearsy Posted 22 February, 2013 Posted 22 February, 2013 Not true at all. Obviously depends on contact to to contract, but it is very common to have a room or loft or shed locked and deemed inaccessible for the tenant. I've rented a three bedroom house where the third bedroom, a cupboard and one of the two garden sheds was out of bounds. you would it expect it cheaper tho i spose. I wouldn't pay full market rate for a room full of benalis old moustache trimmings. Also, level with me, you went in them secret rooms didn't you brah?
Tokyo-Saint Posted 22 February, 2013 Posted 22 February, 2013 I can't be the only one on here who is desperate to know what went on in the panic rooms. Come on um pahars, spill the beans and turn a pretty boring thread into an interesting one. What was in the third bedroom?
Bearsy Posted 22 February, 2013 Posted 22 February, 2013 i know! I'm thinking of going along to the court case just to find out what sort of stuff benali was keeping in his sex dungeon!
Tokyo-Saint Posted 22 February, 2013 Posted 22 February, 2013 Not just that one, um pahars' sex dungeon, shed and cupboard too. If I was meeting with an estate agent's and they took me to some house but then as we are looking around suddenly went "NO! not in there. That room is out of bounds. You can live in the rest of the house but not that room.... or the cupboard above the fridge either..... or the 2nd shed" alarm bells would start ringing. I would check milts wasn't the landlord as something fishy was going on.
Bearsy Posted 22 February, 2013 Posted 22 February, 2013 lol yeah i bet you'd open door to 3rd bedroom and find milts surrounded by cctv screens furiously masturbating.
um pahars Posted 22 February, 2013 Posted 22 February, 2013 I can't be the only one on here who is desperate to know what went on in the panic rooms. Come on um pahars, spill the beans and turn a pretty boring thread into an interesting one. What was in the third bedroom? LOL, I should make something juicy up, but sadly the shed was full of a half built vintage car (through the window more like a pile of old car bits). They said the third bedroom was full of furniture and personal possessions that they kept there, rather than put in storage (although I never went in, so could well have been the mad old Aunt locked away). Was only charged for two bedrooms, so didn't wasn't a problem for me.
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