Eastleigh by election candidates in full

[TopGun]

Take your pick!

 

COLIN BEX - Wessex regionalists

 

DAVID BISHOP - Elvis Loves Pets Party

 

JIM DUGGAN - Peace Party

 

RAY HALL - Beer, Baccy and Crumpet Party

 

HOWLING LAUD HOPE - Monster Raving Loony William Hill Party

 

MARIA HUTCHINGS - Conservative

 

DIANE JAMES - UK Independence Party

 

DR IAIN MACLENNAN - National Health Action Party

 

KEVIN MILBURN - Christian Party "Proclaiming Christ's Lordship"

 

JOHN O'FARRELL - Labour

 

DARREN PROCTER - Trade Unionist and Socialist Coalition

 

DANNY STUPPLE - Independent

 

MIKE THORNTON - Liberal Democrats

 

MICHAEL WALTERS - The English Democrats - "Putting England First!"

[Hatch]

I need to hear more from Ray Hall

[Tokyo-Saint]

Just to clarify, is that 'hacksaw' Jim Duggan?

[The Kraken]

Just to clarify, is that 'hacksaw' Jim Duggan?

 

"Hoooooooooooooooooooooooooo!"

[Tokyo-Saint]

Strangest part political broadcast I have ever seen.

 

[Barry Sanchez]

I need to hear more from Ray Hall

 

Me too, his finger is on the pulse, I cant even vote but he gets mine.

[PhilippineSaint]

I read the Trade Unionist and Socialist Coalition as Doctor Proctor maybe he is?

[JackanorySFC]

I need to hear more from Ray Hall

 

Knocked on my door on Friday evening. "Interesting" character, demanding pub beer prices should be cheaper than supermarket prices *OK my friend, you have my attention...*, started going on about fags getting cheaper as it cheers people up when he lost me. I'm a health concious non smoker so told him he'd lost my vote unfortunately - he persisted with his CRUMPET policy (basically the first letter of the word stands for his 7 key plans). Classic local eccentric that I sent over the road to Botley Legion, plenty of punters that share his policies in there!

[ericofarabia]

Knocked on my door on Friday evening. "Interesting" character, demanding pub beer prices should be cheaper than supermarket prices *OK my friend, you have my attention...*, started going on about fags getting cheaper as it cheers people up when he lost me. I'm a health concious non smoker so told him he'd lost my vote unfortunately - he persisted with his CRUMPET policy (basically the first letter of the word stands for his 7 key plans). Classic local eccentric that I sent over the road to Botley Legion, plenty of punters that share his policies in there!

 

I'm with you there. A double taxation on fags to enable cheaper booze would be a far better policy!!

[JackanorySFC]

I'm with you there. A double taxation on fags to enable cheaper booze would be a far better policy!!

 

I'd vote for that.... Just given a crusty young Lib Dem lad the brush off (he wanted to hand a poster on my front wall), election fever really is kicking in here in Botley! The Tory candidate is doing a meet and great in the pub later, if she gets a round in her vote is secured....

[ericofarabia]

I'd vote for that.... Just given a crusty young Lib Dem lad the brush off (he wanted to hang a poster on my front wall), election fever really is kicking in here in Botley! The Tory candidate is doing a meet and great in the pub later, if she gets a round in her vote is secured....

 

You were lucky, The Eastleigh Nudist Rambler wasn't so fortunate ....

 

 

http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/10227482.Naked_Rambler_supports_Lib_Dems_in_by_election/?ref=mmsp

Edited 18 February, 2013 by ericofarabia

[TopGun]

Tory candidate in trouble about her reactionary views. Been gagged by Tory High Command.

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/conservative/9884810/Eastleigh-by-election-Tories-trying-to-hide-candidate.html

[JackanorySFC]

At a local level this Maria Hutchings seems to be letting herself down. The local School, Wildern, is a superb school (far better than when I went there) and will have no problems accommodating her "gifted" child. However the Lib Dems have agreed to build on Botley Park golf course and now I own a house in the area I'm a fully paid up NIMBY... Hmmm, decisions decisions, prob be Beer, Baccy and Crumpets at this rate!

[TopGun]

At a local level this Maria Hutchings seems to be letting herself down. The local School, Wildern, is a superb school (far better than when I went there) and will have no problems accommodating her "gifted" child. However the Lib Dems have agreed to build on Botley Park golf course and now I own a house in the area I'm a fully paid up NIMBY... Hmmm, decisions decisions, prob be Beer, Baccy and Crumpets at this rate!

 

Out of interest what are the potential issues that the new housing proposal causes that makes you a self-admitted NIMBY? It's an area I work in, albeit not near Eastleigh. I'm always interested in local view points about proposed new developments.

Edited 21 February, 2013 by TopGun

[solentstars]

Tory candidate in trouble about her reactionary views. Been gagged by Tory High Command.

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/conservative/9884810/Eastleigh-by-election-Tories-trying-to-hide-candidate.html

not surprised she belongs to the 1980s Tory party.they need to stop speaking to the old bigots of yesterday and a world which went in the 50s and modernise or they will end up like the labour party of the 1970s when militant activists nearly destroyed the party.appealing to old age pensioners and dinosaurs will not win you elections. I pity Cameron having those idiots still in the party.

 

 

 

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Edited 22 February, 2013 by solentstars

[JackanorySFC]

Out of interest what are the potential issues that the new housing proposal causes that makes you a self-admitted NIMBY? It's an area I work in, albeit not near Eastleigh. I'm always interested in local view points about proposed new developments.

 

I live in Botley, a 5 minute walk away from Botley Park golf course. The road that runs from Botley to Borley Green, Winch st is already busy, Botley High St has shocking traffic and the alternative road from hedge end (Woodhouse lane) not equipt for heavy traffic. The sheer number of houses (1400) is huge, Botley only has 2000 on its own. It will completely change the feel of the area, we paid extra for our house as we wanted to live in Botley rather than Hedge End as IMO Hedge End is over developed already (any poor sod that has to use junction 7 at peak hours will confirm that).

 

My main issue is the huge, overwhelming opposition to it the Lib Dems seem to have ignored, big marches, packed public meetings etc. the poor guys in Borley green have it worse though, only a couple of hundreds houses there right now and lovely little place, their houses will drop like a stone in value (mine will too, which is obviously a reason for me being a NIMBY, only a liar would deny that) and completely change their living standards.

[JackanorySFC]

not surprised she belongs to the 1980s Tory party.they need to stop speaking to the old bigots of yesterday and a world which went in the 50s and modernise or they will end up like the labour party of the 1970s when militant activists nearly destroyed the party.appealing to old age pensioners and dinosaurs will not win you elections. I pity Cameron having those idiots still in the party. Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 2

 

True, if the Tories don't win this they'll never win. The Tory candidate wanted to hold a press conference at Wildern School (a top quality Hants School in Hedge End with a catchment area she falls into but chose to send her kid to private school as "the local schools aren't good enough") quite rightly she was told to **** off by the head!

 

Feel sorry for Cameron, trying to modernise them but nutters opposed to gay marriage etc holding them back.

[dronskisaint]

I'm in exile so don't have a vote but listened to the R5 debate for a couple of hours as I drove back from London yesterday.

 

Much anger expressed as the the 'gagged' Ms Hutchings didn't even turn up...out photo opportunity seeking with Camoron and so sent the Meon MP to represent her...he struggled with her views on education in the area!! Head of Cherbourg Primary and a retired 6th Form College lecturer took him to bits. Liberal guy sounded like a good local option...started by apologising for his predecessor which apparently Clegg hasn't yet. Labour guy sounded well-connected but is from out of the area.....he did point out that Eastleigh voted Lib Dem last time to keep the Tories out whereas this time the same vote would keep them in! UKIP woman was just a refugee from the far right of the Tories...banging on about immigrants whether the question was about energy, education, local isssues...whatever. Several disenchanted Tories in the audience did say that they would vote UKIP though....sort of bears out Solentstars point above!

 

Interesting stuff, I was out of the car by the time they did the independents, sadly,there looks to be some air time fun time I missed!

 

My father was a head teacher in Eastleigh in the sixties...I think he'll be spinning in his grave at the Hutchings comment!!

Edited 22 February, 2013 by dronskisaint

[Thedelldays]

At the end of the day.

 

If you were all loaded, you would all send your own kids to a private school that costs a few bob and churns out top grades.

[bridge too far]

At the end of the day.

 

If you were all loaded, you would all send your own kids to a private school that costs a few bob and churns out top grades.

 

FWIW - no

[Thedelldays]

FWIW - no

 

Of course you wouldn't

 

As a millionaire are you saying you would send your kids to redbridge for example... Where teenagers are bunking off, smoking weed and nicking from Kendall shops most lunch times

 

I don't think so

[bridge too far]

Of course you wouldn't

 

As a millionaire are you saying you would send your kids to redbridge for example... Where teenagers are bunking off, smoking weed and nicking from Kendall shops most lunch times

 

I don't think so

 

Sorry - I don't know about schools in the Southampton area as I no longer live there.

 

At the time that my children were in education, we could have just afforded to send them to private schools but we chose not to. They all did very well at state schools.

 

My grandson is very able and his parents could easily afford to send him to a private school but have chosen to send him to the local state primary where he gets special coaching because of his ability.

 

We all think that it's important for children to meet and mix with children from all backgrounds and abilities and that buying education perpetuates a divide. Did you know that the happiest societies are the ones that have the most equality of opportunity?

 

But I respect the right of others to choose to buy privelege even if I think they're misguided.

[trousers]

Did you know that the happiest societies are the ones that have the most equality of opportunity?

 

"Opportunity is what you make of your life not what others do for you" - Bobby Davro, 1983

[Lord Duckhunter]

The whole education system and "choice" is corrupted by money.

 

Whether it's richer people moving into the catchment of good state schools, richer people paying tutors to school their kids into Grammar, or rich paying for private education.

 

Why do people do the 3 things mentioned, because some state schools are awful.

[for_heaven's_Saint]

Of course you wouldn't

 

As a millionaire are you saying you would send your kids to redbridge for example... Where teenagers are bunking off, smoking weed and nicking from Kendall shops most lunch times

 

I don't think so

 

Would have no hesitation in sending my kids to Wildern, regardless of how rich I was.

 

On a different note, there's a house in Hedge End that's absolutely plastered in UKIP propaganda, including numerous banners about immigration. I don't understand how someone can be quite so anti-immigration when they live in Hedge End; it's not exactly a hot-bed for foreigners.

[JackanorySFC]

Of course you wouldn't

 

As a millionaire are you saying you would send your kids to redbridge for example... Where teenagers are bunking off, smoking weed and nicking from Kendall shops most lunch times

 

I don't think so

 

Redbridge is a decent school now, missus thought there for a while and now at a far higher achieving Hants school and she far preferred Redbridge.

[Thedelldays]

Redbridge is a decent school now, missus thought there for a while and now at a far higher achieving Hants school and she far preferred Redbridge.

i used to live about 10 min walk from redbridge...and it used to be an absolute toilet....much on par with millbrook...i went to bellemoor myself and that USED to be good...no i hear it is terrible...

[JackanorySFC]

Would have no hesitation in sending my kids to Wildern, regardless of how rich I was.

 

On a different note, there's a house in Hedge End that's absolutely plastered in UKIP propaganda, including numerous banners about immigration. I don't understand how someone can be quite so anti-immigration when they live in Hedge End; it's not exactly a hot-bed for foreigners.

 

Ha, yeah I know the one, on Bursledon road on the way to the motorway/ Bursledon? The closest we get to foreigners in Hedge End/ Botley are Emran, Adbul, Muhammed and the boys in the 2 Purbani curry houses and Mr Pizza in Hedge End with his 1/4 Italian "heritage"!

 

I can honestly say if I had kids and I was in the catchment area, regardless of money I would happily send my boy/ girl to Wildern. It is a superb school that can do the rare thing of supporting high achievers as well as pushing the borderline kids up from D's to C's & B's. Amazing facilities for sport, drama, science and tech with massive external funding. The only problem is SO30 is growing so fast they will need another secondary school soon and I wonder if it will be able to match Wildern. I also think there's alot to be said for growing up a rounded individual with mates from all backgrounds, not just ones with loaded parents. I say this as en ex Wildern pupil when it was genuinely moody under mr Rocket, Jeff Threllthal (RIP) too over turned that school around and actually drummed some aspiration into losers like me

[TopGun]

I live in Botley, a 5 minute walk away from Botley Park golf course. The road that runs from Botley to Borley Green, Winch st is already busy, Botley High St has shocking traffic and the alternative road from hedge end (Woodhouse lane) not equipt for heavy traffic. The sheer number of houses (1400) is huge, Botley only has 2000 on its own. It will completely change the feel of the area, we paid extra for our house as we wanted to live in Botley rather than Hedge End as IMO Hedge End is over developed already (any poor sod that has to use junction 7 at peak hours will confirm that).

 

My main issue is the huge, overwhelming opposition to it the Lib Dems seem to have ignored, big marches, packed public meetings etc. the poor guys in Borley green have it worse though, only a couple of hundreds houses there right now and lovely little place, their houses will drop like a stone in value (mine will too, which is obviously a reason for me being a NIMBY, only a liar would deny that) and completely change their living standards.

 

I'm assuming that if the proposed new housing is as many as 1,400 that this is land that has been allocated for housing in the local authority core plan though?

[JackanorySFC]

i used to live about 10 min walk from redbridge...and it used to be an absolute toilet....much on par with millbrook...i went to bellemoor myself and that USED to be good...no i hear it is terrible...

 

To be fair the grades aren't exactly amazing but they have a discipline code that is adhered to by almost everyone. The missus' observations were hardly any bullying (certainly not over clothes etc as they are all skint;-)), good community links, kids turning up to parents evening on their own as their old dear is p***ed at home and can't be bothered but the kids genuinely want to better themselves and she misses the weekly Monday morning Police update with what "activity" has been going on over the weekend.

 

She generally preferred the kids at that school to obnoxious little toffs at a certain Winchester school that couldn't be bothered to learn as they were going to work for their parent's company when they left school anyway. Redbridge kids were rough around the edges but had character basically, the school also set in motion a discipline code that didn't have any grey areas, if you messed up you were out.

[for_heaven's_Saint]

Ha, yeah I know the one, on Bursledon road on the way to the motorway/ Bursledon? The closest we get to foreigners in Hedge End/ Botley are Emran, Adbul, Muhammed and the boys in the 2 Purbani curry houses and Mr Pizza in Hedge End with his 1/4 Italian "heritage"!

 

I can honestly say if I had kids and I was in the catchment area, regardless of money I would happily send my boy/ girl to Wildern. It is a superb school that can do the rare thing of supporting high achievers as well as pushing the borderline kids up from D's to C's & B's. Amazing facilities for sport, drama, science and tech with massive external funding. The only problem is SO30 is growing so fast they will need another secondary school soon and I wonder if it will be able to match Wildern. I also think there's alot to be said for growing up a rounded individual with mates from all backgrounds, not just ones with loaded parents. I say this as en ex Wildern pupil when it was genuinely moody under mr Rocket, Jeff Threllthal (RIP) too over turned that school around and actually drummed some aspiration into losers like me

 

Yep that's the one, just up the road from me- quite embarrassing really!

 

I went to Wildern from 01-06 (I think!) and it was a brilliant school then and has only got better, I certainly feel like I owe the school a lot. It consistently receives 'outstanding' at Ofsted and that is not a grading handing out easily.

[solentstars]

Would have no hesitation in sending my kids to Wildern, regardless of how rich I was.

 

On a different note, there's a house in Hedge End that's absolutely plastered in UKIP propaganda, including numerous banners about immigration. I don't understand how someone can be quite so anti-immigration when they live in Hedge End; it's not exactly a hot-bed for foreigners.

 

Agree the vast majority of schools are good and I don't believe most private schools in the UK are much better.my nipper got great grades at a good local school and it on the verge of leaving Cardiff university to go to Oxford to study business and law.

 

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[ericofarabia]

From my school days in Eastleigh, I would do all that I could to avoid my kids from going to Alderman Quilley Secondary Modern (Approved) School.

 

Hopefully it is better now than it was in The 70's. Grade A dump.

[JPTCount]

there's only going to be one outcome though, the coalition win a seat.

[TopGun]

Interesting piece from the BBC website about the local campaign.

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-21544685

[Orange]

Apparently the Lib Dems have been taking down UKIP placards, really are pulling out all the stocks aren't they.

[scotty]

I'm quite surprised that labour have wheeled out John O'Farrell. He's a decent comedy writer, but would have thought he was well past his sell-by date politically given his previous blair/brown baggage.

[Saintandy666]

I'm quite surprised that labour have wheeled out John O'Farrell. He's a decent comedy writer, but would have thought he was well past his sell-by date politically given his previous blair/brown baggage.

 

It's not really a target seat, and they aren't going to win. If you are a conspiracy theorist, maybe they want the Lib Dems to win to destabilise David Cameron.

[Saintandy666]

there's only going to be one outcome though, the coalition win a seat.

 

Yes, though the coalition aren't a party. And depending on which one wins will have massive consequences for both parties, and in particular for the respective leaders.

[TopGun]

Yes, though the coalition aren't a party. And depending on which one wins will have massive consequences for both parties, and in particular for the respective leaders.

 

Agreed. Labour is just watching this one for Con/LD/UKIP rows.

[Give it to Ron]

Of course you wouldn't

 

As a millionaire are you saying you would send your kids to redbridge for example... Where teenagers are bunking off, smoking weed and nicking from Kendall shops most lunch times

 

I don't think so

 

Oi mush don't diss us Redbridge boys you Millbrook lot always ran from Beech, Bartlett and Batty!

I have been out of work for 2 weeks since 1975 and worked for 3 of the biggest companies in the world!

Been at the 2nd largest IT company now over 10 years so you are wrong....again.

[solentstars]

Oi mush don't diss us Redbridge boys you Millbrook lot always ran from Beech, Bartlett and Batty!

I have been out of work for 2 weeks since 1975 and worked for 3 of the biggest companies in the world!

Been at the 2nd largest IT company now over 10 years so you are wrong....again.

My mates went to the old glen Eyre school on the flower garden estate in the 1970s.they are both loaded with money now.I think a lot depends on your attitude and ambition at school.mind you in the 1980s a lot of schools were starved of money. I've worked all my life and a lot of my generation also got apprenticeships.

 

 

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[Barry Sanchez]

I live in Botley, a 5 minute walk away from Botley Park golf course. The road that runs from Botley to Borley Green, Winch st is already busy, Botley High St has shocking traffic and the alternative road from hedge end (Woodhouse lane) not equipt for heavy traffic. The sheer number of houses (1400) is huge, Botley only has 2000 on its own. It will completely change the feel of the area, we paid extra for our house as we wanted to live in Botley rather than Hedge End as IMO Hedge End is over developed already (any poor sod that has to use junction 7 at peak hours will confirm that).

 

My main issue is the huge, overwhelming opposition to it the Lib Dems seem to have ignored, big marches, packed public meetings etc. the poor guys in Borley green have it worse though, only a couple of hundreds houses there right now and lovely little place, their houses will drop like a stone in value (mine will too, which is obviously a reason for me being a NIMBY, only a liar would deny that) and completely change their living standards.

 

What about the people from Botley who have family going back generations and have been ousted by out of towners and Londoners? Can they be nimbys as well, most local people from that area dislike people moving in, not for a house price fall but for an increase, maybe the locals should vote for expansion in Boorley Green afterall.........................

 

 

As you are a nimby could you spell the name of the place you are protecting correct?

Out of towners..............................

 

I will add, I am neither pro or against as I dont live around there anymore, but having been down there last month a lot of people want it for work so it swings both ways, who is selling the land? Thats where I would start, I remember them building the golf course and people objecting, I also remember Grange Park being built, as long as they improve from that then at least its progress.

Edited 24 February, 2013 by Barry Sanchez

[TopGun]

Sunday Telegraph on the by election. Expecting victory for LDs.

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/9889622/Eastleigh-by-election-Maria-Hutchings-I-say-exactly-what-I-think.html

[saintbletch]

Sunday Telegraph on the by election. Expecting victory for LDs.

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/9889622/Eastleigh-by-election-Maria-Hutchings-I-say-exactly-what-I-think.html

 

Interesting read TopGun. Tories third behind UKIP?

 

When the Labour campaign team member knocked my door, I told her that they had the wrong leader.

 

When the Lib Dem campaign team member knocked my door, I told him that they had the wrong leader. (He actually volunteered "Watch this space...")

 

Mrs saintbletch got rid of the UKIP bloke yesterday before I had a chance to tell him that they had the right leader but the wrong policies.

 

Just waiting for Maria or one of her people to knock the door now.

 

I have to say that a by-election with such national focus like the one in Eastleigh, has done wonders to remove the feeling of political disenfranchisement you usually feel as a voter.

 

It's been wonderful to look various people in the eye, call them to account, tell them what you think and to have them whither in front of you.

 

I've never seen campaign team members so keen to get away from my door before.

[Lord Duckhunter]

Sunday Telegraph on the by election. Expecting victory for LDs.

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/9889622/Eastleigh-by-election-Maria-Hutchings-I-say-exactly-what-I-think.html

 

Depends on how this Lord Rennard story develops over the week.

 

It's getting nearer and nearer to Cleggy , with his parliamentary aide admitting that "she took action" after the women confided in her. It beggars belief that accusations were made against the CEO of the party, that Clegg's parliamentary aide took action over it, yet didn't tell Cleggy????? The same guy then steps down for "health reasons". Come on!!! I have a feeling it'll be the normal small lie that'll do for Cleggy on this. He didn't do anything, nothing has been proved yet, but by claiming he knew nothing of the allegations he's leaving himself wide open.

 

If this gathers legs it could tip the balance against the Lib/dems despite strong local representation. No wonder they went for a short campaign...........

[JPTCount]

Yes, though the coalition aren't a party. And depending on which one wins will have massive consequences for both parties, and in particular for the respective leaders.

 

but my point was that it's a two horse race, with one winner, the coalition. i don't think repercussions will be massive, its a tight seat, always has been, and without a massive swing it's just noise. what massive consequences do you think there will be? and for the party leaders......?

[Lord Duckhunter]

Depends on how this Lord Rennard story develops over the week.

 

It's getting nearer and nearer to Cleggy , with his parliamentary aide admitting that "she took action" after the women confided in her. It beggars belief that accusations were made against the CEO of the party, that Clegg's parliamentary aide took action over it, yet didn't tell Cleggy????? The same guy then steps down for "health reasons". Come on!!! I have a feeling it'll be the normal small lie that'll do for Cleggy on this. He didn't do anything, nothing has been proved yet, but by claiming he knew nothing of the allegations he's leaving himself wide open.

 

If this gathers legs it could tip the balance against the Lib/dems despite strong local representation. No wonder they went for a short campaign...........

 

Never thought old cleggys defence that he never knew would fall apart quite so quickly.

 

statement being made tonight, like to see how Clegg gets out of this.

[scotty]

Never thought old cleggys defence that he never knew would fall apart quite so quickly.

 

statement being made tonight, like to see how Clegg gets out of this.

 

Well he made a great start on R4 this morning, said he knew one of the women claiming to have been groped by Rennard, and adding, pricelessly, that "I feel for her."

[Saintandy666]

but my point was that it's a two horse race, with one winner, the coalition. i don't think repercussions will be massive, its a tight seat, always has been, and without a massive swing it's just noise. what massive consequences do you think there will be? and for the party leaders......?

 

Yes, the coalition majority stays the same, but it could alter the balance of power. A Lib Dem win might stop the Tories being quite so cocky in the next few years as they wouldn't be able to believe they have a majority just round the corner. A Lib Dem win would rally their MPs to be more assertive and so on.

 

But the most crucial element is for the leaders.

 

Nick Clegg - The whole lib dem strategy for 2015 is built around retention(even if vote collapses else where), and so far the local elections are holding up well, especially in places like Eastleigh. Many are privately hoping for 30 odd seats, but if Eastleigh is lost the Lib Dems will become seriously worried about total wipeout in 2015 under Clegg.

 

David Cameron - The tories have put up with his wishy washy conservatism for a while now, on the grounds it would win them elections. And he failed to do that. He did not win the 2010 election, and so far he continually shows himself to not be a winner. To win in 2015, the Tories must win places like Eastleigh and if they don't the back benches will become nervous about sticking with Cameron if he isn't a winner.