MP on soccer sat

[Wes Tender]

Interesting that you see it in such a simplistic way?

 

I wouldn't have thought that rational thinking would produce such an 'either/or' result. Can a person who supports team or club not also applaud the good decisions and bemoan the bad ones. Do you not have mates or acquaintances who can't get on?

 

From my personal perspective I've supported Saints for over 50 years, idolised Matt the player and enjoyed Matt the person's company when I've briefly been in it or Matt the pundit - does this disqualify me from being able to see both the positive and the negative things about NC? I felt lousy about the Pardew and the Adkins sackings...I also felt let down by Matt's 'spot betting' revelations but that doesn't mean I have to take sides and speak from one agenda or the other surely?!!

 

I feel these things because for better or for worse I'm a Saints fan but to express the opinion that you have is playground-mentality, agenda-driven cr*p...in my opinion - in the cold light of the day can you logically defend your 'touching' loyalty to one side of an argument to the exclusion of all others?

 

A very well-balanced and sensible response. I can't think of one single poster on here who "has decided they support the chief executive rather than a sports team, but apparently this forum is crawling with them. Presumably they all go to the match just to catch a glimpse of Cortese rather to watch the team play.

[aintforever]

CB finally makes a rational point... that maybe some of us do have a tendancy to want it both ways re the PR stuff. I guess it depends on what we believe should be in teh public domain and how its portrayed. Sacking Adkins was always going to be a highly controvercial issue that would have the media scurrying for rent a gob quotes form all and sundry in the game - and we wre treated to the whole shebang - badly handled all round...but it was a footballing issue and so we can not complain and new manager/old manager will always be big news - negative PR from the club which should have done better.

 

But NON foottballing matters aired in public ? Sorry, what is the point of it? Stirred by the media, will be divisive, and is frankly no-ones business. This is negative PR that is only in teh public domain because certain folks let it be known... so agin why? NO need for it.

 

So there is a difference even if the narcistic crew on here try to tell us otherwise...

 

Of course there's a difference but in principle it's the same, bad PR is bad PR. It's the hypocritical stance of some people that bugs me.

 

Le Tiss calls Cortese a nasty human being and it is damaging the club.

 

Cortese actually acts like (or comes across as) a nasty human being and it doesn't matter, no effect at all.

 

Of course there are unpopular footballing decisions which need to be made and I applaud him for acting decisively but there is alot of petty and pointless bad PR from Cortese which damages the club more than what some ex pro says. there seems a reluctance of some on here to be honest.

[VectisSaint]

A very well-balanced and sensible response. I can't think of one single poster on here who "has decided they support the chief executive rather than a sports team, but apparently this forum is crawling with them. Presumably they all go to the match just to catch a glimpse of Cortese rather to watch the team play.

You must be referring to all those members of the Cult of Cortese, the hordes of people that evidently exist in the minds of one or two of our favourite posters on here. I think you are right, I don't believe one person would actively support a Chairman/Chief Exec of a FC, but then again I don't expect adults to hero worship a footballing legend to the point where no criticism of the way he acts is acceptable in their eyes, even when said player seems to have accepted that he may have been a bit out of order in this case and seems to be making attempts to make amends in some of things he is now saying.

[Turkish]

You must be referring to all those members of the Cult of Cortese, the hordes of people that evidently exist in the minds of one or two of our favourite posters on here. I think you are right, I don't believe one person would actively support a Chairman/Chief Exec of a FC, but then again I don't expect adults to hero worship a footballing legend to the point where no criticism of the way he acts is acceptable in their eyes, even when said player seems to have accepted that he may have been a bit out of order in this case and seems to be making attempts to make amends in some of things he is now saying.

 

Would you describe yourself as a Cortese theist Vectits? Ie you believe in the one almighty chairman, but you don't hold the strong and loyal views of the Cult of Cortese?

[CB Fry]

You must be referring to all those members of the Cult of Cortese, the hordes of people that evidently exist in the minds of one or two of our favourite posters on here. I think you are right, I don't believe one person would actively support a Chairman/Chief Exec of a FC, but then again I don't expect adults to hero worship a footballing legend to the point where no criticism of the way he acts is acceptable in their eyes, even when said player seems to have accepted that he may have been a bit out of order in this case and seems to be making attempts to make amends in some of things he is now saying.

 

 

Who exactly are these people please? I venture to suggest they are nothing but a figment of your imagination.

[tajjuk]

Saying players working harder than ever

completely bought into his style

players have complete desire to achieve, firstly to stay up and then to move on

NC is a very demanding person and MP likes that..they both demand huge levels from their staff

NC desperate for the club to elevate itself to much higher levels

Players getting a lot fitter

plenty of work to do in the season

Very respectful for the work adkins done..

 

the panel then went on to talk about it.

 

MLT - very very impressed. can see what this guy is all about

Tommo - saints look great, need to keep it up

Mers - completely wrong about lambert, he should be a shoe in for england and he is as good as you get as a lone striker in the country

Charlie - love the new southampton style, love the pressing game and long may it continue

Jeff - "Seems cortese knows what he is doing and right all along, hey tis"

 

Thanks for the summary. Much praise has been given in the Football media towards Saints in recent weeks. Makes it nice to be a Saints fan.

 

Rest of the thread has been derailed by a load of MLT/Cortese waffle.