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Really don't see any need for this.

 

Part of the reason trouble is at an all time low is due to this. As said above, there will be beer flying everywhere if we score. It's bad enough in the concourses at some away game getting covered in a beer shower.

 

If people want to be drunk, then yes, it won't make any difference where they are allowed to. This will just be seen as a rubber stamp in some quarters to act like bloody idiots.

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See no real reason why not, those that want to be ****ed already are!

 

Could be a first step to the repeal of lots of the silly rules that were born out of 80's hooligans and maybe even a return to standing areas!

 

I think it was those silly rules that meant the death of hooliganism, actually.

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as it stands now the drinkers will fill up with as much alcohol before the game, then try and neck a pint and a half in 15 minutes at half time. if i go to the pub and watch a game i'll have maybe 3 or 4 pints spread over the course of 2 or so hours, whereas at the stadium i tend to neck two pints in about 40 minutes before hand an another at half time in 10-15. it's just forcing ppl to get more drunk quicker.

 

also we should have a small outer ring of fencing round the ground, like reading or twickenham for example, to allow smokers to go out. was so ****ed off at wembley when i couldn't have a fag on the massive balcony off the third tier! middle of the summer too, stuck in a low ceiling room with 2000 sweaty northerners.

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as it stands now the drinkers will fill up with as much alcohol before the game, then try and neck a pint and a half in 15 minutes at half time. if i go to the pub and watch a game i'll have maybe 3 or 4 pints spread over the course of 2 or so hours, whereas at the stadium i tend to neck two pints in about 40 minutes before hand an another at half time in 10-15. it's just forcing ppl to get more drunk quicker.

 

also we should have a small outer ring of fencing round the ground, like reading or twickenham for example, to allow smokers to go out. was so ****ed off at wembley when i couldn't have a fag on the massive balcony off the third tier! middle of the summer too, stuck in a low ceiling room with 2000 sweaty northerners.

 

Lol no it isn't. How about maybe showing some restraint instead and maybe drinking a little bit less? Same with the smoking show some self control FFS.

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I think it was those silly rules that meant the death of hooliganism, actually.

 

I think it's more to do with effective policing and CCTV being used to ban hooligans from the grounds. Now any wannabe hooligans know this so they take it somewhere else after the game.

 

I doubt we took away their beer and all the trouble makers sat down and said, "I say chaps, lets all sit down and watch the game like jolly good sports."

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I think it was those silly rules that meant the death of hooliganism, actually.
i agree can you imagine what happens when some off those idiots get more drunk and aggressive and unable to control themselves and the thought of having booze spilled on you by some drunken idiot next to you is not very nice ..and those takeing there kids its not a good environment.
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A gentleman in Block 42 turns up on his own, unable to stand up at every game, allowing beer at his seat would be mental.

 

If he's already in that state he's probably had 10 already. I doubt it would make any difference.

 

I don't think drinking would be an issue in terms of people getting drunk. Those that drink will turn up hammered anyway and leave 15 minutes before HT to get another beer. The main problem will be goal celebrations and beer getting chucked all over the place.

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i agree can you imagine what happens when some off those idiots get more drunk and aggressive and unable to control themselves and the thought of having booze spilled on you by some drunken idiot next to you is not very nice ..and those takeing there kids its not a good environment.

 

I agree. Maybe you should campaign for Rugby and Cricket grounds to bring themselves in line with football grounds and ban alchol from being brought up to seats. It's a terrible enviorment for young children to be in at football and cricket as well.

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i agree can you imagine what happens when some off those idiots get more drunk and aggressive and unable to control themselves and the thought of having booze spilled on you by some drunken idiot next to you is not very nice ..and those takeing there kids its not a good environment.

I think the ipswich line is that the family areas should remain alcohol-free zones.

 

Personally, I dont see a problem here. Anything would be better than the inevitable trolley-dash to the half time queue at the bars, and equally inevitable subsequent queue for the bogs.

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If people want to drink let them, some right prudes on here, its football not the ballet, I bet if they were giving seat cusgions out they would be the first in the queue.

 

+1.

 

The ballet crowds are the first to race to the bars for their interval pre-ordered G & T's.

 

And I reckon Turks is against it because he wouldnt be able to hold a pint with his foam hands on anyway. ;)

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Banning something because some people can't handle it properly seems crazy to me, unless there is an explicitly clear safety risk. Drinking beer at a footy ground is no more dangerous than drinking beer at the cinema, at a gig, at the cricket or anywhere else where people sit in stands together. I'd say it's safer than scalding-hot coffee at a footy ground - rather wet with beer than wet and scalded with coffee - so the argument about it being spilt seems dumb.

 

What seems more important is having a way of dealing with problems as they arise, rather than blanket bans. Therefore, if there are people out there who will get tanked up on beer and act like idiots, have something in place to deal with them.

 

If there are people who feel strongly about it, perhaps making the family areas a no-alcohol zone is the answer.

 

For what it's worth, I go to footy for the footy rather than the beer, so I've no vested interest in this.

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Lol no it isn't. How about maybe showing some restraint instead and maybe drinking a little bit less? Same with the smoking show some self control FFS.

 

its the same principle behind pre club drinking, get ****ed at home/spoons on cheap booze so you don;t have to spend money on expensive drinks inside. whereas here the problem is time, not money. same result ensues.

 

i havn't drunk in a stadium for years, the pipes are horrible, and i prefer charlie anyway, plus i can go a full day without a fag so not smoking doesn't bother me. actually the ban improved the stadium imo, was crazy u couldnt smoke in your seat but were allowed to smoke inside.

 

i'd just rather have the choice, just because some louts ruined it years ago we all suffer now, same with ASH sticking their nose in everywhere. the idea that you can drink at half time and not in the stands goes against the governments anti binge drinking culture

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+1.

 

The ballet crowds are the first to race to the bars for their interval pre-ordered G & T's.

 

And I reckon Turks is against it because he wouldnt be able to hold a pint with his foam hands on anyway. ;)

 

dont worry, i'm already ahead of the game and have designed a foam hand with built in cup holder ready for the explosion when drinking in seats is allowed.

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Banning something because some people can't handle it properly seems crazy to me, unless there is an explicitly clear safety risk. Drinking beer at a footy ground is no more dangerous than drinking beer at the cinema, at a gig, at the cricket or anywhere else where people sit in stands together. I'd say it's safer than scalding-hot coffee at a footy ground - rather wet with beer than wet and scalded with coffee - so the argument about it being spilt seems dumb.

 

What seems more important is having a way of dealing with problems as they arise, rather than blanket bans. Therefore, if there are people out there who will get tanked up on beer and act like idiots, have something in place to deal with them.

 

If there are people who feel strongly about it, perhaps making the family areas a no-alcohol zone is the answer.

 

For what it's worth, I go to footy for the footy rather than the beer, so I've no vested interest in this.

 

In future, please can you prelude such thoughts with a "Caution: sensible post ahead" warning. Thanks. :)

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If people want to drink then fine.

 

The only thing that would annoy me would be if people keep going back to get more beer while the game is in progress, meaning you have to keep standing up to let them pass every few mins. If your absorbed in the game that would become very iritating if some **** head keeps doing that.

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It's not needed at all. You'll have people constantly going back and forth for more beers, if we score full pints will going flying everywhere.

 

Be like at gigs, why the feck do they throw beer.... Not the warm stuff I completely understand what this is! :(

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Controversial but as someone who takes his kids to the games I would say no to alcohol in the terraces as it would only take one incident to ruin it for the many who can control themselves. Derby games especially where passion is already at its peak & alcohol would cause some serious damage by the mindless few.And it doesn't really need to be the mindless few either as I've seen perfectly decent people turn into monsters or nuisances after a few shandies. I'm sure the extra policing costs would outweigh the profit on the beer anyway so possibly a non starter. I'm also sure that Sky & all the other media people who pump squillions into the game don't really want to broadcast images of some drunken person swaying with a lager in their hand.

 

Pleas dont get me wrong - I'm all for people having a great time & enjoying a beer or two but football terraces are potentially not as civilised as tennis courts so would prefer safety & enjoyment anytime. Just my humble opinion.

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It's not needed at all. You'll have people constantly going back and forth for more beers, if we score full pints will going flying everywhere.

 

This. I drive down to games and back again - I'd rather not stink of booze if I get pulled over for a dodgy tail light or what not. I love a pint as much as the next man but keep the rules as is for now.

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It's always seemed an odd ban to me. I used to attend games in the dark days of the seventies and I don't recall hooligans actually drinking during the game. If people want to get drunk and behave like idiots they will and will probably tank up at a pub before the game. Or they can drink to excess in the stadium before the game and at half time.

 

I quite often buy a glass of wine before the game (because the "beer" is disgusting and it's easier on the bladder). It would be nice to be able to take it to my seat and sip it while waiting for the game to start. I'm not a threat to anyone and kind of resent the implication that I would be if I had a plastic glass of wine in my hand. I can't see that drinking within sight of the game will necessarily lead to more problems other than people going backwards and forwards to the bar and the bog which I agree could be annoying. But other sports cope. Why not football?

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A gentleman in Block 42 turns up on his own, unable to stand up at every game, allowing beer at his seat would be mental.

 

is that the bloke with long greasy hair, usually in a denim jacket ? if so, 1 time he brought a female companion with him who was also paraletic when they turned up 10 mins after the game started. as she wobbled up level to my seat she fell on her ar$e,releasing a rancid smell of sh!t from her obviously soiled kegs. was disgusting & made worse by her squelching about as she struggled to get up.

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All for it. I've always thought that if you treat people like kids they behave like kids. Treat fans like adults. We should be able to have a pint. I think Saints in particular as a family club should embrace this. It will be self policing and good for sensible, grown up football. We can watch the cricket and rugby and even drink in a show at the Mayflower! Come on - let's change. Pints are us!

 

Mine's a lager!

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