Forester Posted 12 February, 2013 Share Posted 12 February, 2013 Given that we have increasing confidence of staying up, it looks like the opportunity to have the mother of all clear-outs in the summer. Most, but not all, really good servants who would be a great asset for teams lower down the pyramid - but lots of trimming to help create some room for two or three quality signings. Here's my starter for 10 - what do you think? Forecast Davis Richardson Butterfield Seabourne Martin Dixon Fox Chaplow Hammond Guly Forte Barnard Sharp Lee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webby Posted 12 February, 2013 Share Posted 12 February, 2013 Given that we have increasing confidence of staying up, it looks like the opportunity to have the mother of all clear-outs in the summer. Most, but not all, really good servants who would be a great asset for teams lower down the pyramid - but lots of trimming to help create some room for two or three quality signings. Here's my starter for 10 - what do you think? Forecast Davis Richardson Butterfield Seabourne Martin Dixon Fox Chaplow Hammond Guly Forte Barnard Sharp Lee Well, not many of them are here at the moment anyway, but I think Lee and Guly may survive the chop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 12 February, 2013 Share Posted 12 February, 2013 Keep Guly. Maybe keep Lee but not fussed. Maybe keep Fox. Rest can go though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 12 February, 2013 Share Posted 12 February, 2013 Given that we have increasing confidence of staying up, it looks like the opportunity to have the mother of all clear-outs in the summer. Most, but not all, really good servants who would be a great asset for teams lower down the pyramid - but lots of trimming to help create some room for two or three quality signings. Here's my starter for 10 - what do you think? Forecast Davis Richardson Butterfield Seabourne Martin Dixon Fox Chaplow Hammond Guly Forte Barnard Sharp Lee All of the above who are out of contract will probably leave but some of them still have another year so they may be on loan or still hanging around. Wouldn't think that any much more than half will leave definitively in the summer . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue Saint Posted 12 February, 2013 Share Posted 12 February, 2013 Given that we have increasing confidence of staying up, it looks like the opportunity to have the mother of all clear-outs in the summer. Most, but not all, really good servants who would be a great asset for teams lower down the pyramid - but lots of trimming to help create some room for two or three quality signings. Here's my starter for 10 - what do you think? Forecast Davis Richardson Butterfield Seabourne Martin Dixon Fox Chaplow Hammond Guly Forte Barnard Sharp Lee No de Ridder in your list? I would keep lee and Guly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 12 February, 2013 Share Posted 12 February, 2013 I believe that Jose Mourinho was spot on when he said you need a squad of 23 players in the Premier League. GK - Artur Boruc (pending a new contract), Paolo Gazzaniga, Kelvin Davis (player/coach role?) RB - Nathaniel Clyne, Frazer Richardson LB - Luke Shaw, Danny Fox CB - Jose Fonte, Vegard Forren, Maya Yoshida, Jos Hooiveld CM - Morgan Schneiderlin, Jack Cork, Steven Davis, James Ward-Prowse RM/LM - Adam Lallana, Jason Puncheon, Gaston Ramirez, Guly Do Prado ST - Rickie Lambert, Jay Rodriguez, Emmanuel Mayuka, Tadanari Lee Everyone who isn't on that list can leave, and the weaker players who are in that 23 can be replaced if need be. Youth players like Stephens, Chambers etc can come into the side to make up numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonroader07 Posted 12 February, 2013 Share Posted 12 February, 2013 I believe that Jose Mourinho was spot on when he said you need a squad of 23 players in the Premier League. GK - Artur Boruc (pending a new contract), Paolo Gazzaniga, Kelvin Davis (player/coach role?) RB - Nathaniel Clyne, Frazer Richardson LB - Luke Shaw, Danny Fox CB - Jose Fonte, Vegard Forren, Maya Yoshida, Jos Hooiveld CM - Morgan Schneiderlin, Jack Cork, Steven Davis, James Ward-Prowse RM/LM - Adam Lallana, Jason Puncheon, Gaston Ramirez, Guly Do Prado ST - Rickie Lambert, Jay Rodriguez, Emmanuel Mayuka, Tadanari Lee Everyone who isn't on that list can leave, and the weaker players who are in that 23 can be replaced if need be. Youth players like Stephens, Chambers etc can come into the side to make up numbers. Cant disagree with this !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 12 February, 2013 Share Posted 12 February, 2013 Get rid of Lee and get in a better striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forester Posted 12 February, 2013 Author Share Posted 12 February, 2013 No de Ridder in your list? I would keep lee and Guly. Fair shout re Steve. Re Lee, just don't see Premier League quality but perhaps he will prove us wrong. Think we should really push ourselves if we are serious about top half next season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astrasri Posted 12 February, 2013 Share Posted 12 February, 2013 In the new way of doing things, I think Lee may have something to show - keep options open until he's had a few games to prove his capabilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 12 February, 2013 Share Posted 12 February, 2013 Guly has been one of our best players this season! Why would you want rid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 12 February, 2013 Share Posted 12 February, 2013 I believe that Jose Mourinho was spot on when he said you need a squad of 23 players in the Premier League. GK - Artur Boruc (pending a new contract), Paolo Gazzaniga, Kelvin Davis (player/coach role?) RB - Nathaniel Clyne, Frazer Richardson LB - Luke Shaw, Danny Fox CB - Jose Fonte, Vegard Forren, Maya Yoshida, Jos Hooiveld CM - Morgan Schneiderlin, Jack Cork, Steven Davis, James Ward-Prowse RM/LM - Adam Lallana, Jason Puncheon, Gaston Ramirez, Guly Do Prado ST - Rickie Lambert, Jay Rodriguez, Emmanuel Mayuka, Tadanari Lee Everyone who isn't on that list can leave, and the weaker players who are in that 23 can be replaced if need be. Youth players like Stephens, Chambers etc can come into the side to make up numbers. This is spot on. No sense in getting rid of Richardson, Fox and Guly as you aren't going to find better back up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 12 February, 2013 Share Posted 12 February, 2013 We are in the middle of a relegation fight ! Let's not count any chickens yet !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Ash Posted 12 February, 2013 Share Posted 12 February, 2013 Guly has been one of our best players this season! Why would you want rid? I love opposites day! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 12 February, 2013 Share Posted 12 February, 2013 I think we shall survive, however I also believe it is far too early to go predicting this stuff now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LatvianTolix Posted 12 February, 2013 Share Posted 12 February, 2013 Given that we have increasing confidence of staying up, it looks like the opportunity to have the mother of all clear-outs in the summer. Most, but not all, really good servants who would be a great asset for teams lower down the pyramid - but lots of trimming to help create some room for two or three quality signings. Here's my starter for 10 - what do you think? Forecast Davis Richardson Butterfield Seabourne Martin Dixon Fox Chaplow Hammond Guly Forte Barnard Sharp Lee Would keep Martin, Guly and Chaplow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andre Posted 12 February, 2013 Share Posted 12 February, 2013 I'd get rid of the following probably: Tadanari Lee (don't see how he fits in with us) Jack Stephens (is he really ever going to get a chance?) Richard Chaplow (deserves regular football) Danny Butterfield (third back-up, not needed) Dean Hammond (not needed, deserves regular football) Danny Seaborne (not needed, deserves regular football) Steve De Ridder (not needed, deserves regular football) The 23-man squad above looks pretty accurate in my mind, although instead of Lee we'll have a new signing or a youth player (Sinclair? Hoskins?), and unfortunately Hooiveld might be replaced as well. Obviously we'll have more players as well, maybe another winger and Guly might go (hope not). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 12 February, 2013 Share Posted 12 February, 2013 (edited) Me, personally Kelvin - retire Gazza - loan to NPC Richardson Martin Hooiveld Chaplow De ridder Hammond Sharp Lee Dickson Barnard Forte Bring in a keeper to push boruc A young right back A top CB A top CM A top attacker Re-sign brouc and punch Edited 12 February, 2013 by Thedelldays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-scooby Posted 12 February, 2013 Share Posted 12 February, 2013 Forte has just scored so he is staying and getting number 7 ................................. x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 12 February, 2013 Share Posted 12 February, 2013 I'd get rid of the following probably: Tadanari Lee (don't see how he fits in with us) Jack Stephens (is he really ever going to get a chance?) Richard Chaplow (deserves regular football) Danny Butterfield (third back-up, not needed) Dean Hammond (not needed, deserves regular football) Danny Seaborne (not needed, deserves regular football) Steve De Ridder (not needed, deserves regular football) The 23-man squad above looks pretty accurate in my mind, although instead of Lee we'll have a new signing or a youth player (Sinclair? Hoskins?), and unfortunately Hooiveld might be replaced as well. Obviously we'll have more players as well, maybe another winger and Guly might go (hope not). Bit harsh on Stephens, he's only 19 and represented England at under 19 level as recently as november. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 12 February, 2013 Share Posted 12 February, 2013 Dixon?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toe_punt Posted 12 February, 2013 Share Posted 12 February, 2013 Guly has been one of our best players this season! Why would you want rid? Yes, he only needs one goal to get back to net zero over the last 14 months! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Donovan Posted 12 February, 2013 Share Posted 12 February, 2013 Yes, he only needs one goal to get back to net zero over the last 14 months! So are the performances of our midfielders based purely on goals scored? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazlo78 Posted 12 February, 2013 Share Posted 12 February, 2013 Given that we have increasing confidence of staying up, it looks like the opportunity to have the mother of all clear-outs in the summer. Most, but not all, really good servants who would be a great asset for teams lower down the pyramid - but lots of trimming to help create some room for two or three quality signings. Here's my starter for 10 - what do you think? Forecast Davis Richardson Butterfield Seabourne Martin Dixon Fox Chaplow Hammond Guly Forte Barnard Sharp Lee As SuperMikey showed so nicely, we should hang on to Davis, Richardson, Fox, Guly, and perhaps Martin, Chaplow, Sharp and Lee. That leaves Forecast, Butterfield, Seaborne, Dickson, Hammond, Forte, and Barnard. Remember, any of these players could get a new lease of life if they turn out to fit well with MP's tactics - Davis being the obvious example... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazlo78 Posted 12 February, 2013 Share Posted 12 February, 2013 I'd get rid of the following probably: Tadanari Lee (don't see how he fits in with us) Jack Stephens (is he really ever going to get a chance?) Richard Chaplow (deserves regular football) Danny Butterfield (third back-up, not needed) Dean Hammond (not needed, deserves regular football) Danny Seaborne (not needed, deserves regular football) Steve De Ridder (not needed, deserves regular football) The 23-man squad above looks pretty accurate in my mind, although instead of Lee we'll have a new signing or a youth player (Sinclair? Hoskins?), and unfortunately Hooiveld might be replaced as well. Obviously we'll have more players as well, maybe another winger and Guly might go (hope not). Writing off a 19 year old defender now before he's even had the chance to prove himself?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 12 February, 2013 Share Posted 12 February, 2013 If we stay up I expect all those out of contract to leave with the exception of Puncheon and maybe Boruc and those currently on loan to move on. Rest of squad will stay unless we get replacements or they want to leave. We're already set for starters in most positions so I wouldn't expect massive changes and I suspect many squad roles may be fulfilled by youngsters as the process of promotion from the youth teams starts in ernest. I wouldn't rule out a couple of big signings up front and on the wing (be it an attacking midfielder or proper winger). And it will be interesting to see what we do with the goalkeeping situation this summer as right now the best solution appears to be to retain Boruc for another year but I am not sure the club thinks that way. Ultimately the existing squad is bloated but that was bound to happen with the fast progression the club has made. I would expect a lot of movement to occur but little of it to really impact our best 18 as we consider it right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
110_Persaint Posted 12 February, 2013 Share Posted 12 February, 2013 Some of you folks are getting way ahead of yourselves. Let's start with a more realistic scenario. Everyone pick five players they want the club to offload in the summer, that's all. FIVE, no more, no less. For me: Schneiderlin Ramirez Lambert Lallana Shaw Bonus: Cork (fine, you're allowed one bonus player!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 12 February, 2013 Share Posted 12 February, 2013 If we stay up I expect all those out of contract to leave with the exception of Puncheon and maybe Boruc and those currently on loan to move on. Rest of squad will stay unless we get replacements or they want to leave. We're already set for starters in most positions so I wouldn't expect massive changes and I suspect many squad roles may be fulfilled by youngsters as the process of promotion from the youth teams starts in ernest. I wouldn't rule out a couple of big signings up front and on the wing (be it an attacking midfielder or proper winger). And it will be interesting to see what we do with the goalkeeping situation this summer as right now the best solution appears to be to retain Boruc for another year but I am not sure the club thinks that way. Ultimately the existing squad is bloated but that was bound to happen with the fast progression the club has made. I would expect a lot of movement to occur but little of it to really impact our best 18 as we consider it right now. We don't play with "proper wingers" though. So what would be the point in signing one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 12 February, 2013 Share Posted 12 February, 2013 We don't play with "proper wingers" though. So what would be the point in signing one? Maybe we don't play with them because we don't have a good one? We made approaches for the likes of Phillips and Lens in the summer so it is clear the club felt the need for one and I do see a role for one in Pochettino's system - he certainly used a lot of width at Espanyol. Wingers may not be players for all occasions these days but I am certain there will be times in a season when we will be in need for one - either for the impact he can make with the ball or the impact he will make with his presence on the pitch in terms of the space he can make for other players. I don't think it is a desperate need but it is a clear hole in our squad when you look at our overall capability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 12 February, 2013 Share Posted 12 February, 2013 Some of you folks are getting way ahead of yourselves. Let's start with a more realistic scenario. Everyone pick five players they want the club to offload in the summer, that's all. FIVE, no more, no less. For me: Schneiderlin Ramirez Lambert Lallana Shaw Bonus: Cork (fine, you're allowed one bonus player!) That'll be the list of exits if we go down for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saint in winchester Posted 13 February, 2013 Share Posted 13 February, 2013 Some of you folks are getting way ahead of yourselves. Let's start with a more realistic scenario. Everyone pick five players they want the club to offload in the summer, that's all. FIVE, no more, no less. For me: Schneiderlin Ramirez Lambert Lallana Shaw Bonus: Cork (fine, you're allowed one bonus player!) Offload??? Do you mean "retain". The above would be 5 to retain, surely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westofshannonsaint Posted 13 February, 2013 Share Posted 13 February, 2013 Offload??? Do you mean "retain". The above would be 5 to retain, surely. I presume he did, but thankfully we are no longer a "selling club". Other than Ox, who was the last player we were "forced" to sell? Puncheon was made hold to his contract. If we stay up I expect all those out of contract to leave with the exception of Puncheon and maybe Boruc and those currently on loan to move on. Rest of squad will stay unless we get replacements or they want to leave. We're already set for starters in most positions so I wouldn't expect massive changes and I suspect many squad roles may be fulfilled by youngsters as the process of promotion from the youth teams starts in ernest. I think your right. Chaplow & Richardson are out of contract, http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/southampton-fc/kader-vertragsende/verein_180.html Thanks for the service lads. Players on loan - I see that Sharpe is signed up until 2015 & think Pochettino will want to watch him in training before a decision is made. I think most of the others will leave or go out on loan again. Will Hoskins & Reeves get contract extensions? I thought they were ones for the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintBobby Posted 13 February, 2013 Share Posted 13 February, 2013 Given that we have increasing confidence of staying up, it looks like the opportunity to have the mother of all clear-outs in the summer. Most, but not all, really good servants who would be a great asset for teams lower down the pyramid - but lots of trimming to help create some room for two or three quality signings. Here's my starter for 10 - what do you think? Forecast Davis Richardson Butterfield Seabourne Martin Dixon Fox Chaplow Hammond Guly Forte Barnard Sharp Lee Thinks those in bold will stay (if they are still under contract) - although may well be loaned out.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 13 February, 2013 Share Posted 13 February, 2013 Reallistically the squad rates as follows:- - Proven more than capable for the league: Boruc, Clyne, Shaw, Fonte, Yoshida, Cork, Morgan, Gaston, Lallana, Puncheon, Lambert, Jay Rod, JWP, Davis. (14) - Unknown quantities: Mayuka, Forren, Lee, Callum Chambers, Jack Stephens. (5) - Shown they can do a job (but not relied on): Hooiveld, Guly, Fox, Gazza. (4) - Surplus to requirements: Richardson, Chaplow, Butterfield, Davis, Barnard, Sharp, Seabourne, Martin, Forte, Dickson, Hammond, Forecast. (12) 1. First off tie Boruc, Puncheon and Shaw to long term contracts (and anyone else who only has a year) 2. Get rid of the surplus players not worrying about transfer prices for most. 3. Get 3 quality players in to challenge for first team positions (Full back, Centre-back, Attack mid/Forward) plus maybe a keeper. Which makes the 'do a job' players more reserves. We need about 23 players but we don't want a bloated reserve team so we shouldn't have any players past that 23 that aren;t here for the long term to allow plenty of space for the young players to progress. Plus its good to have a close knit squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 13 February, 2013 Share Posted 13 February, 2013 So are the performances of our midfielders based purely on goals scored? agreed! Guly is more of a defensive midfielder................... NOT an attacking midfielder. The sooner people realise this the better - hopefully then they will get off his back as the guy has been superb last 2 months dont get me started on the booing - crazy!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 13 February, 2013 Share Posted 13 February, 2013 Using our unneeded, unused or likely outgoing players, you can make a decent League One team! Something like: Davis Butterfield Martin Seaborne Dickson De Ridder Hammond Chaplow Forte Barnard Hoskins I'd fancy that to challenge in League One. Even going up a league to the Championship and adding current Saints non-first teamers and you get: Gazzaniga Richardson Fonte Hooiveld (for the purposes of this although he's getting a run in the side) Fox Guly Hammond JWP Reeves Sharp Lee It massively highlights the deadwood we have from rising up the leagues so fast that we can field nearly 3 teams of differing quality. Stay in the Premier League and there'll be a lot of outs, lower league clubs will love us. Go down, and while we nay lose our exciting, young quality players, we still have the core of a good Championship team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurzel Posted 13 February, 2013 Share Posted 13 February, 2013 Given that we have increasing confidence of staying up, it looks like the opportunity to have the mother of all clear-outs in the summer. Most, but not all, really good servants who would be a great asset for teams lower down the pyramid - but lots of trimming to help create some room for two or three quality signings. Here's my starter for 10 - what do you think? Forecast Davis Richardson Butterfield Seabourne Martin Dixon Fox Chaplow Hammond Guly Forte Barnard Sharp Lee That's 15 that we consider surplus to requirements ?!?!?! Christ what would Pompey give to have a squad like that ? #WTFILN :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints_is_the_south Posted 13 February, 2013 Share Posted 13 February, 2013 This is spot on. No sense in getting rid of Richardson, Fox and Guly as you aren't going to find better back up. This. We've also not heard any murmurings of discontent that they aren't playing very much either. Richardson for example, a steady eddy sort of player, not going to feature an awful lot but when he does has shown he will get the basis done and provide solid back up. I like Kieran Trippier, the England u-21 right back at Burnley, but would he be happy to move from regular first team football to a Premier League back up at this stage in his career? Probably not. Out for me would be: Forecast Butterfield Seaborne Martin Dickson Chaplow Hammond Forte De Ridder Barnard Sharp Hoskins Reeves The latter probably seem a bit harsh, but there isn't much point them staying here, they might as well get out there and find a good club lower down where they will get regular first team football. Hoskins seems to have found his level, think Reeves is better than League 2 though. Loan out Stephens Chambers Robinson Isgrove Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 13 February, 2013 Share Posted 13 February, 2013 This. We've also not heard any murmurings of discontent that they aren't playing very much either. Richardson for example, a steady eddy sort of player, not going to feature an awful lot but when he does has shown he will get the basis done and provide solid back up. I like Kieran Trippier, the England u-21 right back at Burnley, but would he be happy to move from regular first team football to a Premier League back up at this stage in his career? Probably not. Out for me would be: Forecast Butterfield Seaborne Martin Dickson Chaplow Hammond Forte De Ridder Barnard Sharp Hoskins Reeves The latter probably seem a bit harsh, but there isn't much point them staying here, they might as well get out there and find a good club lower down where they will get regular first team football. Hoskins seems to have found his level, think Reeves is better than League 2 though. Loan out Stephens Chambers Robinson Isgrove Isgrove was looking very lively in the highlights of the U21 game vs Wolves on Monday. Wouldn't be surprised if he's one that Pochettino looks to fast-track into the senior squad in the summer. http://www.player.saintsfc.co.uk/latest-news/article/3073633/date/20130212141500/page/0/name/Highlights:-Wolves-U21s-2-2-Saints-U21s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazlo78 Posted 13 February, 2013 Share Posted 13 February, 2013 Reallistically the squad rates as follows:- - Proven more than capable for the league: Boruc, Clyne, Shaw, Fonte, Yoshida, Cork, Morgan, Gaston, Lallana, Puncheon, Lambert, Jay Rod, JWP, Davis. (14) - Unknown quantities: Mayuka, Forren, Lee, Callum Chambers, Jack Stephens. (5) - Shown they can do a job (but not relied on): Hooiveld, Guly, Fox, Gazza. (4) - Surplus to requirements: Richardson, Chaplow, Butterfield, Davis, Barnard, Sharp, Seabourne, Martin, Forte, Dickson, Hammond, Forecast. (12) Depending on how the players in the "unknown quantities" bracket fare, I'd hang on to Richardson, Chaplow and Sharp. With Clyne deputising as LB we need a solid RB as backup, Chaplow may turn out to have the engine to perform well under Pochettino, and for all I know, Sharp could turn out to be our Le Fondre, coming off the bench to score late goals And Reeves? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lifelongsaint83 Posted 13 February, 2013 Share Posted 13 February, 2013 Jason Puncheon, Danny Butterfield, Dan Seaborne, Tommy Forecast, Ryan Dickson, Frazer Richardson, Richard Chaplow, Ben Reeves and Artur Boruc are out of contract at the end of the season and I think Sam Hoskins might be too. Hopefully Puncheon and Boruc with be given new deals with the rest more than likely leaving. Jonathan Forte, Lee Barnard, Dean Hammond, Billy Sharp, Aaron Martin, Steve De Ridder and Kelvin Davis are surplus to requirements I think (Although I would like Sharp to be given a chance). Maybe Davis can have some sort of backroom staff role too. Obviously this is all depending on if we stay up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 13 February, 2013 Share Posted 13 February, 2013 Depending on how the players in the "unknown quantities" bracket fare, I'd hang on to Richardson, Chaplow and Sharp. With Clyne deputising as LB we need a solid RB as backup, Chaplow may turn out to have the engine to perform well under Pochettino, and for all I know, Sharp could turn out to be our Le Fondre, coming off the bench to score late goals And Reeves? Can see an argument for Richardson but I think it's an area we could improve. I can see another decent DM coming in to challenge/provide cover for Cork/Morgan. If we do that then Cork is a better right back than Richardson. Can't see a role for Chaplow, we have Morgan, Cork, Davis and JWP. Chaplow isn't a DM so in reality is behind Davis and JWP who aren't first teamers either. Reeves should get a season loan to a lower league team. If we are going to keep people in the squad they should be the younger players rather than championship/league 1 level players like Chaplow who aren't going to get any better. Doubt Sharp is going to get a look in under Pochettino, don't think his techinical skills will be up to scratch. More likely to see someone like Seagar promoted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 13 February, 2013 Share Posted 13 February, 2013 And yet nobody has considered that we may just sell at least one of our "must-keep" players. The summer window is far away there will be ins and outs and surprises, same as always. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 13 February, 2013 Share Posted 13 February, 2013 And yet nobody has considered that we may just sell at least one of our "must-keep" players. The summer window is far away there will be ins and outs and surprises, same as always. Could easily see offers coming in for Schneiderlin, Cork, Lambert etc. Im sure Cortese will tell them where to go. His comments when MP took over were interesting re building a team who want to stay at the club long term. We have spent a bit of cash but as soon as you let your best players go then in reality you have to spend more to keep getting better (plus using the money you got from the sale to replace the quality you lost). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 13 February, 2013 Share Posted 13 February, 2013 Could easily see offers coming in for Schneiderlin, Cork, Lambert etc. Im sure Cortese will tell them where to go. His comments when MP took over were interesting re building a team who want to stay at the club long term. We have spent a bit of cash but as soon as you let your best players go then in reality you have to spend more to keep getting better (plus using the money you got from the sale to replace the quality you lost). But some of those players have just a year left on their contracts. If any of them are determined to go (and I'm not sure that would be the case) then it's this summer or lose them for free afterwards. All players are replaceable and if they're going anyway you might as well get some money in for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
110_Persaint Posted 13 February, 2013 Share Posted 13 February, 2013 Offload??? Do you mean "retain". The above would be 5 to retain, surely. It's called taking the ρiss mate. You'd have to be mental to take the OP seriously. I'm astounded at the number of replies in this thread. "15 Players to Leave in Summer?" WTF? FIFTEEN? Absolute joke of a thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazlo78 Posted 13 February, 2013 Share Posted 13 February, 2013 It's called taking the ρiss mate. You'd have to be mental to take the OP seriously. I'm astounded at the number of replies in this thread. "15 Players to Leave in Summer?" WTF? FIFTEEN? Absolute joke of a thread. I just assumed it was a case of 'Effemenitis' (playing too much FM and thinking that real world squads work like in the game)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 13 February, 2013 Share Posted 13 February, 2013 It's called taking the ρiss mate. You'd have to be mental to take the OP seriously. I'm astounded at the number of replies in this thread. "15 Players to Leave in Summer?" WTF? FIFTEEN? Absolute joke of a thread. Although it could be seen as an overkill, I wouldn't be surprised as the majority aren't going to play or be good enough to play for us. Pretty much all those on loan we wouldn't really miss. And if we being in a couple in the summer, plus 1 or 2 youth stepping up, I wouldn't be surprised if that many left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 13 February, 2013 Share Posted 13 February, 2013 And yet nobody has considered that we may just sell at least one of our "must-keep" players. The summer window is far away there will be ins and outs and surprises, same as always. I wouldn't be surprised to see Ramirez leaving this summer, as we try to recoup what we paid for him. Sadly he hasn't been the inspirational game changer we thought we were spending £12 million on. I'd love to see him stick around and prove me wrong, but unless Pochettino sees an upturn in form from him in the tail end of this season, I think we'd go out and look for replacements. Of the other "must keeps", the only other I can see question marks over is Shaw. I wonder whether his head would be turned by the big boys. It'll cost them a fortune to buy him, and we all know he's be better off staying put, but ultimately if his heart is set on moving, we could be in trouble. Fortunately it seems like he's enjoying things, and hopefully he still signs that contract, so for now we can bask in the knowledge he's ours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 13 February, 2013 Share Posted 13 February, 2013 I wouldn't be surprised to see Ramirez leaving this summer, as we try to recoup what we paid for him. Sadly he hasn't been the inspirational game changer we thought we were spending £12 million on. I'd love to see him stick around and prove me wrong, but unless Pochettino sees an upturn in form from him in the tail end of this season, I think we'd go out and look for replacements. Of the other "must keeps", the only other I can see question marks over is Shaw. I wonder whether his head would be turned by the big boys. It'll cost them a fortune to buy him, and we all know he's be better off staying put, but ultimately if his heart is set on moving, we could be in trouble. Fortunately it seems like he's enjoying things, and hopefully he still signs that contract, so for now we can bask in the knowledge he's ours. don't see overmuch problem with Shaw, he'll still be here next August 31st. It's players with WC 2014 ambitions that worry me more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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