Change of tactics on corners

[Horton Heath Saint]

Noticed we are now playing out swinging corners as opposed to in swinging corners.

Any advantage? Seems to me easier to defend as ball is going away from goal.

Thought Danny Fox always put in hard swinging corner aiming at six yard box.

Steve Davis took corners from right side, Danny Fox from the left.

[skintsaint]

Looked like we were never going to score from them I do admit..

 

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[Saint Garrett]

Also noticed we seemed to line up at the edge of the box and make the charge into the box.

[Ken Tone]

And indeed it was from a rubbish corner that they broke away and scored.

 

Much prefer inswingers myself. But as long as we avoid ones that swing both ways, that's ok with me.

[Dr Who?]

For city's break away goal, it looked like we were trying something from the training ground. Someone on the edge of the box was lining up to smash it on the volley, I think it was Fox. It was headed clear and the rest is history.

 

In swinging should be more dangerious and apply pressure, but out swinging need a little more from the training ground rather than putting it in the mix, and hoping for the best.

[adrian lord]

in-swingers too often get claimed by keepers AFAICS, so if the new tactic can be made to work reliably...

[Webby]

If you're attacking the ball from the edge of the box then you can meet an out swinger with more force, whereas an in swinger is always getting closer to the keeper.

 

So, in swinger for near post flick ons and putting pressure on the keeper. Out swinger for attacking headers from the penalty spot area.

[SaintRichmond]

Noticed we are now playing out swinging corners as opposed to in swinging corners.

Any advantage? Seems to me easier to defend as ball is going away from goal.Thought Danny Fox always put in hard swinging corner aiming at six yard box.

Steve Davis took corners from right side, Danny Fox from the left.

 

With respect, I don't agree

 

Back in the era of Terry Paine/ Ron Davies, what actually MADE Davies was Paine's ability to get to the goal line and cross the ball BACk, for Davies to run in on and connect ... result ?? Loads of goals for Ron

 

Also, IMHO, if you ask any Centre Half, they will tell you that it is VERY hard to defend against a ball being crossed in and going AWAY from the defender

 

STILL one of the best things to watch, but (surprisingly) not practised by many so called right wingers these days.

 

I bet Painer curses his luck that he wasn't playing these days

[saint si]

For city's break away goal, it looked like we were trying something from the training ground. Someone on the edge of the box was lining up to smash it on the volley, I think it was Fox. It was headed clear and the rest is history.

 

This. Fox came up for an earlier corner with his arm aloft too. Execution was terrible though ... by which I mean the fault lies with Davis who took it, not Fox.

[itchen_dan]

To be fair, the corner was too lofty but Fox made it so obvious that he was going to be striking it. When Utd used to do it with Scholes, it was so subtle and not until the ball was nearly half way in mid flight did he start to shape up. Fox however was ready to hit it before it was even taken!

[Dr Who?]

This. Fox came up for an earlier corner with his arm aloft too. Execution was terrible though ... by which I mean the fault lies with Davis who took it, not Fox.

 

It was hung up to much. Should have been played flatter!

[Dr Who?]

Lets just say it did not work, and try not pointing the finger at the obvious scapegoat, who really did nothing wrong. He could have been stood with his leg back ready to kick it all I care, the city defence would not have noticed. They cut out the ball while it was in the air floating around for an age. Then broke.

 

Are corners are rubbish, but I am sure we will be working on this part of our game. If not just in swing it in the mix, and get bodies in there.

[Webby]

It was hung up to much. Should have been played flatter!

 

I felt the ref got in the way a bit too

[Golden Balls]

It was hung up to much. Should have been played flatter!

 

Agreed. There was a long time for the defenders to react and get a head on it where it was in the air so long.

[SaintNeil90]

If you're attacking the ball from the edge of the box then you can meet an out swinger with more force, whereas an in swinger is always getting closer to the keeper.

 

So, in swinger for near post flick ons and putting pressure on the keeper. Out swinger for attacking headers from the penalty spot area.

 

This...

 

Theres a book called Soccernomics and in that they talk about the most successful corners, which are in fact the out swinging ones for the reason you have put above.

[Webby]

This...

 

Theres a book called Soccernomics and in that they talk about the most successful corners, which are in fact the out swinging ones for the reason you have put above.

 

And I haven't even read it!

[KelvinsRightGlove]

If delivered well, out-swingers can be really hard to defend.

 

In the right area, it can draw in and commit defenders, and potentially commit the GK.

 

Really, it's all about delivery, a good cross inswinging or out, is a good cross.

[The9]

This...

 

Theres a book called Soccernomics and in that they talk about the most successful corners, which are in fact the out swinging ones for the reason you have put above.

 

Weird, I've read that and don't remember that bit at all. I do know that only about 1/11 corners leads to a goal though, and that Brits are met with bemusement across the rest of the footballing world for the enthusiasm with which we celebrate corners for pretty much that reason.

[John Boy Saint]

I felt the ref got in the way a bit too

He did, he ran across, I thought it was, Cork just as he was about to loft it into the box it seemed distraction enough.

[Deano6]

This...

 

Theres a book called Soccernomics and in that they talk about the most successful corners, which are in fact the out swinging ones for the reason you have put above.

 

I'm really not sure how much of that book you read...

 

Not long ago, the data department at a very big English club carried out a study of corner kicks. The club hadn't been scoring much from corners recently, and the analysts wanted to find out the best way to take them. They watched more than four hundred corners, from different leagues, over several seasons, and concluded: the most dangerous corner was the inswinger to the near post.

 

The beauty of the inswinger was that it sent the ball straight into the danger zone. Sometimes an attacker would get a head or foot to it and divert it in from point-blank range. Sometimes the keeper or a defender stopped the inswinger on the line, whereupon someone bashed it in. And occasionally the ball just swung straight in from the corner. All in all, the analysts found, inswingers produced more goals than outswingers.

 

They took their findings to the club's manager, who like almost all managers is an ex-player. He heard them out. Then he said, "I was a player for many years, and I just know that the outswinger is more effective." He was wrong, but we can understand why he made the mistake: outswingers tend to create beautiful goals (ball swings out, player meets it with a powerful header, ball crashes into net) and beautiful goals stick in the memory. The messy goals generally produced by inswingers don't.