The9 Posted 10 February, 2013 Share Posted 10 February, 2013 I stand by my earlier post during the game. The man should be struck of, no excuse - 'As City made that final attack 35 seconds + after the injury time was up in the first half, I just watched the referee continue with the game until the ball ran to one of our defenders. At this point the ref lifted the whistle to blow until the ball went back to a City player, the whistle was immediately lowered until the ball was lost again to a saints player, where upon the ref blew up. Either time is up or it is not. It should not depend who is in possession of the ball. Now most of what the ref has done in the first half is subjective and a matter of opinion - that passage of play is not. If anyone gets a chance to review the game then look out for it. Something should be done because that without a shadow of a doubt is cheating.' The guidance given to referees is that the ball should be in a neutral area of the pitch when the whistle is blown to end a half, so if we gave possession away with City attacking he should wait until we clear the ball (or City pass it back into midfield) until he blows. If we'd whacked it clear he'd have blown. That's been the case for about 5 years - there have been a couple of dubious whistle blows recently where they've blown at corners or when teams are on the edge of the box with the ball, when the ref shouldn't have blown up but did. He was pretty crappy overall, but this wasn't part of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 10 February, 2013 Share Posted 10 February, 2013 Papa Weigo was hardly ever offside. He was just too quick for the linos to keep up with him. But I am in total agreement with most on here, that the referee was extremely poor, as was the Itchen side lino. And anybody who had money on us beating them 4-1 can jusitfiably be livid that the nailed-on, dead-cert, stonewall penalty wasn't given. It was as blatant a penalty as I can ever remember. I don't think that I have heard any commentator defend the ref's decision on grounds that there was any element of benefit of the doubt, or that the ref was unsighted. It would be nice to believe that the incident will be assessed by the authorities and that accordingly Adkinson has a black mark against his name. :this is true its a common problem for quick players. No wonder Theo Walcott is caught offside 20 times a game, the same reason. It's also ruining the career of Gareth Bale as he suffers from being too quick for the linesman as well and is never offside but always seems to be so. I feel sorry for all these quick players that have so much pace and ability that are regularly peanalised by linesman who can't keep up with them, it's ruining the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 10 February, 2013 Share Posted 10 February, 2013 Bloke in front of me said "They don't want the title race over already" and that was exactly my thoughts. No excuses - awful display from the ref. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 10 February, 2013 Share Posted 10 February, 2013 I stand by my earlier post during the game. The man should be struck of, no excuse - 'As City made that final attack 35 seconds + after the injury time was up in the first half, I just watched the referee continue with the game until the ball ran to one of our defenders. At this point the ref lifted the whistle to blow until the ball went back to a City player, the whistle was immediately lowered until the ball was lost again to a saints player, where upon the ref blew up. Either time is up or it is not. It should not depend who is in possession of the ball. Now most of what the ref has done in the first half is subjective and a matter of opinion - that passage of play is not. If anyone gets a chance to review the game then look out for it. Something should be done because that without a shadow of a doubt is cheating.' :this is true its a common problem for quick players. No wonder Theo Walcott is caught offside 20 times a game, the same reason. It's also ruining the career of Gareth Bale as he suffers from being too quick for the linesman as well and is never offside but always seems to be so. I feel sorry for all these quick players that have so much pace and ability that are regularly peanalised by linesman who can't keep up with them, it's ruining the game. Never mind the linesman, did you see the ref trying to keep up with Spurs' injury time counterattack yesterday, even Lambert would have overtaken him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 10 February, 2013 Share Posted 10 February, 2013 Never mind the linesman, did you see the ref trying to keep up with Spurs' injury time counterattack yesterday, even Lambert would have overtaken him. Why didn't he just flag him offside if he couldn't keep up, like they did with Papa Waigo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 10 February, 2013 Share Posted 10 February, 2013 the suggestion that papa waigo was hardly ever offside is utterly laughable... he was woefully offside countless times.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 10 February, 2013 Share Posted 10 February, 2013 the suggestion that papa waigo was hardly ever offside is utterly laughable... he was woefully offside countless times.. No Jamie, it was because the linesman couldn't keep up. All quick players have the same problem FFS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonroader07 Posted 10 February, 2013 Share Posted 10 February, 2013 If we take away the penalty decision and the 5 minutes of extra time he invented he had an ok match. He let the game flow and in general didn't start waving cards for no reason. But you're judged on the big decisions so a 5/10. One of the worst refs in the Prem, shocking decision for the penalty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djg Posted 10 February, 2013 Share Posted 10 February, 2013 I stand by my earlier post during the game. The man should be struck of, no excuse - 'As City made that final attack 35 seconds + after the injury time was up in the first half, I just watched the referee continue with the game until the ball ran to one of our defenders. At this point the ref lifted the whistle to blow until the ball went back to a City player, the whistle was immediately lowered until the ball was lost again to a saints player, where upon the ref blew up. Either time is up or it is not. It should not depend who is in possession of the ball. Now most of what the ref has done in the first half is subjective and a matter of opinion - that passage of play is not. If anyone gets a chance to review the game then look out for it. Something should be done because that without a shadow of a doubt is cheating.' This.... I noticed that at the time and couldn't believe what he was doing, I thought he was terrible and we were lucky not to be on the end of a decision that went on to cost us...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 10 February, 2013 Share Posted 10 February, 2013 the suggestion that papa waigo was hardly ever offside is utterly laughable... he was woefully offside countless times.. I was being ironic. Same as the chant from the Northam; "he's always offside, Papa Weigo, he's always offside" even when he might not have been. But there were certainly many occasions when he looked onside, after he had adjusted the timingof his runs. It really is a ridiculous situation when a linesman must keep up with play and try to make a judgement about when the ball was played numerous yards behind him. The only way that the decision could be made more accurate, would be with two linesmen on each line, one forward and one back level with the ball. TV replays show that on many occasions the linesmen gets it wrong currently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 10 February, 2013 Share Posted 10 February, 2013 I was being ironic. Same as the chant from the Northam; "he's always offside, Papa Weigo, he's always offside" even when he might not have been. But there were certainly many occasions when he looked onside, after he had adjusted the timingof his runs. It really is a ridiculous situation when a linesman must keep up with play and try to make a judgement about when the ball was played numerous yards behind him. The only way that the decision could be made more accurate, would be with two linesmen on each line, one forward and one back level with the ball. TV replays show that on many occasions the linesmen gets it wrong currently. that is true...the officials were pretty poor at that level Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostBoys Posted 10 February, 2013 Share Posted 10 February, 2013 I do not expect them to get every decision right and I would not agree even if they got them right but you have to get the obvious ones correct and be consistent. there is no doubt in my mind that if Hooiveldt had done the same to Dzecko and Aguero it would have been a peno. He did have a better second half than the dreadful first half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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