anothersaintinsouthsea Posted 6 February, 2013 Share Posted 6 February, 2013 On this thread we have liberals against marraige, I wonder are these the same liberals who used to argue it was a disgrace our future could not be catholic? Just curious. Who are the "liberals" against marriage? Bizarre post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 6 February, 2013 Share Posted 6 February, 2013 To me, the fact that people who believe in talking snakes think it shouldn't happens means that it certainly should. I'm not sure that the students of Hogwarts ever expressed a view on gay marriage. Deleted chapter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 6 February, 2013 Share Posted 6 February, 2013 At a time when the economy is in the sh !tter, all the politicians and press have to chatter about is a non-issue to the vast majority of the population, who are too embarrassed to offend a sector of our society, in which the indulgence in unusual sexual practices are placed above the basic need for humans to procreate. This is when I I turn to "The Life of Brian", a film that still manages to capture the laughable state of politics and religion in most parts of the world, a state ably supported by a dim and self-absorbed congregation: Still the funniest movie ever made. South Park: Bigger, Longer and U**** is next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano6 Posted 7 February, 2013 Share Posted 7 February, 2013 In the words of William L Rowe... "An agnostic is someone who neither believes nor disbelieves in the existence of a deity or deities, whereas a theist and an atheist believe and disbelieve, respectively. In the strict sense, however, agnosticism is the view that humanity does not currently possess the requisite knowledge and/or reason to provide sufficient rational grounds to justify the belief that deities either do or do not exist. In so far as one holds that our beliefs are rational only if they are sufficiently supported by human reason, the person who accepts the philosophical position of agnosticism will hold that neither the belief that God exists nor the belief that God does not exist is rational." Ahhh...that actually clears it up for me somewhat - put me down for atheism. I wholeheartedly support the notion that the belief that God does not exist (given current evidence) is rational. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 7 February, 2013 Share Posted 7 February, 2013 Who are the "liberals" against marriage? Bizarre post. Sorry our future monarchy, typing half the time doing something else, my point is liberals or many of them are against marraige or the idea of a piece of paper binding two people together, did these same people argue that a catholic could not be a monarch simply to prove a point even though they did not believe in a God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 7 February, 2013 Share Posted 7 February, 2013 Putting aside the other flaws in the plan, at least now when it is introduced it won't discriminate against married gay couples. Will still discriminate against couples who choose not to marry. And the people who don't earn enough to benefit from such arrangements and end up paying a higher proportion of their lower income in tax. I agree with you. It's an absolute disgrace. Why should people be discrimated against because they choose not to marry. Or in some cases are so ugly, miserable, paranoid and pathetic they can't either get or keep a partner so are doomed to a life of singledoom. It's disgusting non married people are discrimated against in such a way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anothersaintinsouthsea Posted 7 February, 2013 Share Posted 7 February, 2013 Sorry our future monarchy, typing half the time doing something else, my point is liberals or many of them are against marraige or the idea of a piece of paper binding two people together, did these same people argue that a catholic could not be a monarch simply to prove a point even though they did not believe in a God. Complete strawman: 1. no one on this thread is 'against' marriage 2. I don't know anyone who is 'against' marriage. The only person I know well who has kids and lives with a partner who isn't married is a total Tory. 3. why bring in the issue of catholic monarchs? is this a particular bug bear of yours? 4. Even if someone is "against" marriage why should it follow that they also have strong views on catholics being future monarchs? I consider myself a liberal. I am in favour of people getting married if that is their wish. I think that belief in God is absurd. I think much of organised religion is absurd. I think that having a monarchy is absurd in this day and age. I couldn't care less whether the monarch is protestant, catholic, muslim, atheist etc. I'd guess the vast majority of those who oppose Catholics becoming monarchs will be Church of England stalwarts in which case they're unlikely to be "liberals" and certainly not against marriage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nathan Posted 8 February, 2013 Share Posted 8 February, 2013 Playing devil's advocate...but can I marry myself. My interpretation of marriage is that I should be allowed to. I know some may disagree that this isn't what marriage is, but I'll just call them back dated, old fashioned and not evolved. I should get all the rights that married people get but in my marriage it will just be me. I think all people should be treated equally in law and have all the same rights, but 'marriage' is between a man and a woman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anothersaintinsouthsea Posted 8 February, 2013 Share Posted 8 February, 2013 Playing devil's advocate...but can I marry myself. My interpretation of marriage is that I should be allowed to. I know some may disagree that this isn't what marriage is, but I'll just call them back dated, old fashioned and not evolved. I should get all the rights that married people get but in my marriage it will just be me. I think all people should be treated equally in law and have all the same rights, but 'marriage' is between a man and a woman. I agree, it is disgusting that in our free and open society people like you are discriminated against. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPTCount Posted 8 February, 2013 Share Posted 8 February, 2013 this whole thing has put me off getting married at all, not the gays being able to do it it, but all these old ****ers who think it's ok to discriminate against them. religion is a joke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nathan Posted 8 February, 2013 Share Posted 8 February, 2013 this whole thing has put me off getting married at all, not the gays being able to do it it, but all these old ****ers who think it's ok to discriminate against them. religion is a joke I inherently believe that marriage is between a man and a woman. I have no issues whatsoever with two men or two women being equal in the eyes of the law, but whatever you want to call it, it shouldn't be marriage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 8 February, 2013 Share Posted 8 February, 2013 I inherently believe that marriage is between a man and a woman. I have no issues whatsoever with two men or two women being equal in the eyes of the law, but whatever you want to call it, it shouldn't be marriage. Why not? Under what prerogative? Christianity does not own the word marriage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anothersaintinsouthsea Posted 8 February, 2013 Share Posted 8 February, 2013 I inherently believe that marriage is between a man and a woman. I have no issues whatsoever with two men or two women being equal in the eyes of the law, but whatever you want to call it, it shouldn't be marriage. Fine, but have you got the right to enforce your opinion on the wider of society? Does it bother you if two gay people you've never met get "married"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 8 February, 2013 Share Posted 8 February, 2013 Why not? Under what prerogative? Christianity does not own the word marriage. Should be pointed out that not all Christians are against this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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