Tom8558 Posted 4 February, 2013 Posted 4 February, 2013 As in, say Southampton became a "global club" would you turn your back and support and team more down to the football than the merchandise? Just curious.
Window Cleaner Posted 4 February, 2013 Posted 4 February, 2013 As in, say Southampton became a "global club" would you turn your back and support and team more down to the football than the merchandise? Just curious. and that died out when they started being successful again I think. Old Traff is always full so I doubt if the directors worry too much about FC Manchester anyway.
hypochondriac Posted 4 February, 2013 Posted 4 February, 2013 Hand on heart, if we became like Chelsea or United I would find it very difficult to support Southampton to the extent I have done over the last few years.
Sour Mash Posted 4 February, 2013 Posted 4 February, 2013 and that died out when they started being successful again I think. Old Traff is always full so I doubt if the directors worry too much about FC Manchester anyway. It hasn't died out at all has it. As you're quite clued up on the subject, I'm sure you saw their away support this weekend?
Saint Charlie Posted 4 February, 2013 Posted 4 February, 2013 The smoke bomb element of the fanbase could enjoy spit fuelled away days at Runcorn and Leigh RMI. Scum Army!
Turkish Posted 4 February, 2013 Posted 4 February, 2013 FCUM is a great idea and credit it where its due to those who have made it a success. They've done something about the issues they had with their own club.
Thedelldays Posted 4 February, 2013 Posted 4 February, 2013 it was a great idea...they get 300-1900 going to their games...(total attendances)
Window Cleaner Posted 4 February, 2013 Posted 4 February, 2013 it was a great idea...they get 300-1900 going to their games...(total attendances) seems that the total attendance at Buxton last week-end was 1121. Didn't Road-Sea used to get about 500 ?
Thedelldays Posted 4 February, 2013 Posted 4 February, 2013 so basically...a couple of hundred from OT that go.. I wonder how many go to both or have gone back to OT...?
aintforever Posted 4 February, 2013 Posted 4 February, 2013 We already sell merchandise, why would I stop supporting just because we started selling more?
Window Cleaner Posted 4 February, 2013 Posted 4 February, 2013 so basically...a couple of hundred from OT that go.. I wonder how many go to both or have gone back to OT...? there were 75600 present at the Man U -Saints game so I guess they can spare a few for CoMFC. What do Eastleigh and Totton get now ?
Thedelldays Posted 4 February, 2013 Posted 4 February, 2013 there were 75600 present at the Man U -Saints game so I guess they can spare a few for CoMFC. What do Eastleigh and Totton get now ? maybe Hypo can go to either one of these now he is boycotting SMS...?
hypochondriac Posted 4 February, 2013 Posted 4 February, 2013 maybe Hypo can go to either one of these now he is boycotting SMS...? Nah. I'll watch at the pub and save some money.
Window Cleaner Posted 4 February, 2013 Posted 4 February, 2013 maybe Hypo can go to either one of these now he is boycotting SMS...? I believe a few people actually prefer Totton and Eastleigh because they feel closer to those sides. Nothing wrong with that.
Thedelldays Posted 4 February, 2013 Posted 4 February, 2013 Nah. I'll watch at the pub and save some money. or at the ground, i suspect
Turkish Posted 4 February, 2013 Posted 4 February, 2013 there were 75600 present at the Man U -Saints game so I guess they can spare a few for CoMFC. What do Eastleigh and Totton get now ? Who cares what eastleigh get? You're clearly missing the point. It's a fan owned community club, it's a great idea and good to see some people have got the gumption to get off their arse and do something. They have over 3000 members and each of them owns a part of the club.
Sour Mash Posted 4 February, 2013 Posted 4 February, 2013 so basically...a couple of hundred from OT that go.. I wonder how many go to both or have gone back to OT...? It's a mixed bag from what I know. Some do bit of both, some just do FC United, some United hate the idea of "FC" and wouldn't have anything to do with it. Think they've got a new 5k ground to be built soon. Not going to change the world, but fair play to them for trying to do something.
Dr Who? Posted 4 February, 2013 Posted 4 February, 2013 Fair play to those who did it. Would like to see an FC Southampton, but would always only be on SFC! It is in the heart, and you cannot change..... I have invested far to much!
pap Posted 4 February, 2013 Posted 4 February, 2013 I'll be dropping Southampton FC like a sack of the proverbial when Flower Roads United becomes a Premier League team.
Webby Posted 4 February, 2013 Posted 4 February, 2013 Look, I support Southampton cos it's my home town and I spent many great afternoons and evenings at the Dell, but even when we moved to St.Mary's it seemed as though something had changed. It's not the same, you can't compare the Dell to St.Mary's, but, it's called progress, and keeping up with modern football stadia was a necessity, tons of clubs have done it. Christ knows where we'd be now if we still played at the Dell. Anyway, my point is, things change, and if we become a successful club over the next decade, then so be it. I'll be lapping it up, only wishing I was twenty years younger. I won't be turning away cos we've become too big for our boots. Nope, bring it on.
hypochondriac Posted 4 February, 2013 Posted 4 February, 2013 or at the ground, i suspect Yes you already aired your suspicions last week.
Dr Who? Posted 4 February, 2013 Posted 4 February, 2013 I'll be dropping Southampton FC like a sack of the proverbial when Flower Roads United becomes a Premier League team. Ha ha ha, you can go up front....
Dr Who? Posted 4 February, 2013 Posted 4 February, 2013 Stadium over daisy dip! Always like the idea of watching a team go up through the leagues, I think it comes from my football manager fetish as a kid. Used to think it was real! Nuts I was!
Wade Garrett Posted 4 February, 2013 Posted 4 February, 2013 As in, say Southampton became a "global club" would you turn your back and support and team more down to the football than the merchandise? Just curious. Not a chance.
Frank's cousin Posted 4 February, 2013 Posted 4 February, 2013 LOL .. fricken sad - I really cant believe some of you. Stop supporting if we become successful? Jeez. Whoi gives a flying feck if the club attracts MORE fans of whatever type - you still support in your way - can only assume there is aworry someone else might think you are JCLs... heaven forbid - sorry but if a load of kids and folk from anywhere begin supporting saints on the back of success so what? Its not WHY you start supporting that is important - but that you stick with it. Do you think the St Mary's fans back in the 1890s would have bene worried about the club growing to compete at the highest level.. Its a global game and the thought of our provincial club knowcking at the door of the global elite, no matter how far fetched should be something to be proud of....hyperthetically
krissyboy31 Posted 4 February, 2013 Posted 4 February, 2013 We could go to P*mpey Scot for advice on how to set up a community club!
krissyboy31 Posted 4 February, 2013 Posted 4 February, 2013 LOL .. fricken sad - I really cant believe some of you. Stop supporting if we become successful? Jeez. Whoi gives a flying feck if the club attracts MORE fans of whatever type - you still support in your way - can only assume there is aworry someone else might think you are JCLs... heaven forbid - sorry but if a load of kids and folk from anywhere begin supporting saints on the back of success so what? Its not WHY you start supporting that is important - but that you stick with it. Do you think the St Mary's fans back in the 1890s would have bene worried about the club growing to compete at the highest level.. Its a global game and the thought of our provincial club knowcking at the door of the global elite, no matter how far fetched should be something to be proud of....hyperthetically But remember Frank, for some moaning is part of following your team. If you have nothing to moan about, what then?
Frank's cousin Posted 4 February, 2013 Posted 4 February, 2013 But remember Frank, for some moaning is part of following your team. If you have nothing to moan about, what then? Fair point - in a way though Global brand success would be the perfect solution for them really - you eliminate all the things these fans traditionally moan about eg. Crap players, no trophies, relegation worries, poor form, poor results... and give them the 'brand' , foriegn fans etc - perfect all round really, genius really.
pap Posted 4 February, 2013 Posted 4 February, 2013 Stadium over daisy dip! Always like the idea of watching a team go up through the leagues, I think it comes from my football manager fetish as a kid. Used to think it was real! Nuts I was! No way. The nippers need the theoretical sunshine. Besides, Flower Roads United is obviously a long-term project. By the time the team needs a big stadium, it'll cost 3 million quid per term to go to Uni. Just build it on top of where students used to be.
um pahars Posted 4 February, 2013 Posted 4 February, 2013 Who cares what eastleigh get? You're clearly missing the point. It's a fan owned community club, it's a great idea and good to see some people have got the gumption to get off their arse and do something. They have over 3000 members and each of them owns a part of the club. and they have fans on the board! Huzzah.
Turkish Posted 4 February, 2013 Posted 4 February, 2013 and they have fans on the board! Huzzah. there is your answer steve, set up SF Saints of Southampton. Que a power struggle between you, Richard Chorley, Perry McMillan and Keith Legg.
um pahars Posted 4 February, 2013 Posted 4 February, 2013 there is your answer steve, set up SF Saints of Southampton. Que a power struggle between you, Richard Chorley, Perry McMillan and Keith Legg. Would it be a great idea, would you give us credit and say we had gumption? Would it be good to see us getting off our arses and doing something?
Turkish Posted 4 February, 2013 Posted 4 February, 2013 Would it be a great idea, would you give us credit and say we had gumption? Would it be good to see us getting off our arses and doing something? It would be, when the FC Saints of Southampton roars then i'll give you credit, until then stick to ringing up the echo and begging them to let you comment everytime they want a voice of the fans on a subject.
pap Posted 4 February, 2013 Posted 4 February, 2013 It would be, when the FC Saints of Southampton roars then i'll give you credit, until then stick to ringing up the echo and begging them to let you comment everytime they want a voice of the fans on a subject. None of that fan on the board stuff for Flower Roads United, Turks. Fan going to parole board possibly, but largely, it'll be a dictatorial arrangement where whomever has the most weed at any given time gets to be chairman.
Chez Posted 4 February, 2013 Posted 4 February, 2013 As in, say Southampton became a "global club" would you turn your back and support and team more down to the football than the merchandise? Just curious. how about just if the football business doubled the season ticket price next season?
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 4 February, 2013 Posted 4 February, 2013 I do understand why FCUM was formed - having been to Old Trafford a week ago it is quite clear a vast majority of their home crowd are completely desensitised to the process of going to football and enjoying it. Couple that with extortionate prices and you can see why people turned away. However FCUM have found themselves in scenarios where they've often contradicted their own reasons for forming the club - opting to change a kick off for TV (FA Cup vs. Rochdale) is one example, and their ongoing stadium locations issues are another. I live in Manchester and when you speak to people who support the club they seem sincere enough but have a word with supporters of clubs in the same division as them and they absolutely loathe them. FCUM had a few seasons where they just purchased the best players from the league they were in because of the size of the support and revenue they had. Unfortunately football has changed these days and there is no escaping it. If you want to operate at any half decent level then money rules so you just have to deal with that and get on with it. There are still some things that remain the same and it is up to the supporters to keep it that way but the game is commercial and that is the end of it. There was no good reason why the Man Ud fans fed up with their club couldn't go and support another team - to form another team in some sort of self-righteous act seemed a little egotistical to me when there were far more other clubs who needed their support. As for me, I support Saints no matter what, I could never envisage a scenario where I would turn my back on them and if we disappeared I'd just become a fan of the sport and not a team.
simo Posted 4 February, 2013 Posted 4 February, 2013 What so after we finally get successful and world renowned you want me to stop supporting the team I have all my life and start going to poxy little 500 attendance games rather than the biggest stadia in the world ? Er yeh ok
Turkish Posted 4 February, 2013 Posted 4 February, 2013 What so after we finally get successful and world renowned you want me to stop supporting the team I have all my life and start going to poxy little 500 attendance games rather than the biggest stadia in the world ? Er yeh ok Who is asking you to do that?
ericb Posted 4 February, 2013 Posted 4 February, 2013 To be honest it's not the success that's the problem - not that we'll see much of that in my opinion - more selling your soul to do it. Personally i look at Arsenal, Liverpool, Chelsea and United (at home) to see the warnings of what has happened to the game. If a fc of southampton was set up i think i'd almost 100% go, mainly cause it'd be cheap and fun, the way i think football should be. Besides i think the option would be taken out of my hands anyway since i'd not be able to afford st mary's. Also i really fu.cking hate plastics, and i doubt i'd be able to keep my mouth shut if we started getting them, especially if they sapped the soul from the club like they have at the clubs i mentioned before. The only thing i would say is that i'd probably still do a few aways, just for the laugh and the day out, since normally they can't sanitise the away support anywhere near as much as the home crowd. Mind you i've been falling out of love with football since we got back to the prem' so maybe i'm different to some of our more happy clappy fans.
um pahars Posted 4 February, 2013 Posted 4 February, 2013 It would be, when the FC Saints of Southampton roars then i'll give you credit, until then stick to ringing up the echo and begging them to let you comment everytime they want a voice of the fans on a subject. Tis inspiring to see you like the idea of a club based in the community with fans on the board. What made you change your mind. BTW I don't phone Simon Carter anymore, we Skype every day instead.
Saint_clark Posted 4 February, 2013 Posted 4 February, 2013 What? Why would you stop supporting a club just because it's become successful? FC United was formed because of Glazer, not because they won too many titles FFS.
Andre Posted 4 February, 2013 Posted 4 February, 2013 What? Why would you stop supporting a club just because it's become successful? FC United was formed because of Glazer, not because they won too many titles FFS. So... because of Cortese?
tajjuk Posted 5 February, 2013 Posted 5 February, 2013 So... because of Cortese? Quite a difference there. People might have their issues with NC, but he's not saddled a very profitable club with massive loans that need millions and millions a year worth of interest to service and he doesn't take money out of the club as 'fees' for his sons. What he does is generally what he thinks is in the best interests of SFC, what the Glaziers do is generally in the best interests of the Glaziers.
Andre Posted 5 February, 2013 Posted 5 February, 2013 Quite a difference there. People might have their issues with NC, but he's not saddled a very profitable club with massive loans that need millions and millions a year worth of interest to service and he doesn't take money out of the club as 'fees' for his sons. What he does is generally what he thinks is in the best interests of SFC, what the Glaziers do is generally in the best interests of the Glaziers. I know, just thought I'd prod I agree btw.
The9 Posted 5 February, 2013 Posted 5 February, 2013 As in, say Southampton became a "global club" would you turn your back and support and team more down to the football than the merchandise? Just curious. I was always under the impression they had no problem with winning a load of stuff and being massive, just that the Glazers siphoned off United's profitability to help pay off their other business debts at the expense of the club's success.
manji Posted 5 February, 2013 Posted 5 February, 2013 So some fans would have a problem with us being succesful and we would be landed with a FC Southampton run by Nick Illingsworth ,Um pahars, and Perry McMillan. ****ing retarded luddites.
Chez Posted 5 February, 2013 Posted 5 February, 2013 Quite a difference there. People might have their issues with NC, but he's not saddled a very profitable club with massive loans that need millions and millions a year worth of interest to service and the BVI loan may well cost millions in interest each year, depending on its existence and size.
Chez Posted 5 February, 2013 Posted 5 February, 2013 So some fans would have a problem with us being succesful and we would be landed with a FC Southampton run by Nick Illingsworth ,Um pahars, and Perry McMillan. ****ing retarded luddites. very happy to be successful, not particularly enamoured about paying Arsenal-like prices to watch that success.
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