St marys expansion

[CB Fry]

I can't see a single post where he's recommended it. I can't see a single post where he's said he thinks the stadium should be expanded at all. As far as I can see he hasn't said that we should build a 58k stadium and he hasn't said we should slash prices.

 

like everyone else he's struggling to see why there would be plans to build such a thing and has searched for the only possible way it could be filled. I don't think anybody so far on this thread has said we should build such a big stadium. It's a consensus of agreement, but this is SWF and people have to argue about something, so FC has suggested the only feasible way he can think of that such a stadium could be filled and most other posters have decided to interpret this as him saying this should happen. That's how it seems to me anyhow.

 

Whatever. He's scoped out a load of nonsense as "making financial sense" and "not being as ridiculous as some are making out". You can get all semantic about it but if he didn't think it should or could happen then maybe just not bother discussing it at all.

[capitalsaint]

Whatever. He's scoped out a load of nonsense as "making financial sense" and "not being as ridiculous as some are making out". You can get all semantic about it but if he didn't think it should or could happen then maybe just not bother discussing it at all.

 

If you accept that there are people at the club who are seriously looking at expanding then why not try and understand their reasoning? I think norwaysaint has a fair point.

[CB Fry]

If you accept that there are people at the club who are seriously looking at expanding then why not try and understand their reasoning? I think norwaysaint has a fair point.

 

Franks Cousin does not work at the club. Hope that helps you.

[capitalsaint]

A huge help, I'll stop badgering him for free tickets!

 

I'm saying he falls under the category of trying to understand why people at the club would want to expand.

[AussieDog]

I think one area that doesn't get considered enough when planning for the future, is that generally, fans are loyal and once they have picked a team they stick with them. How many of us older fans actually started out by going to reserve games for free, or by going in the kids sections when we were younger? It certainly kept my interest when I was too broke to pay for a ticket myself as a kid. We should be practically GIVING tickets to U16's (up to a certain number to both give some exclusivity plus if we gave all our tickets to kids we would soon go broke...lol), and then maybe a staggered price until a certain age. If we increased the stadium to 48k and gave 10,000 free tickets to kids (provided they came with one paying adult), we'd be building our fan base for future years. Yes, it would be a cash flow deficit to start with, but we're looking at the long term here.

[Turkish]

For all those business brains out there

 

Can you please explain how Arsenals business plan was so sound when they spent 13 times (£400m) the cost of St Mary's on the Emirates?

Surely they were better off staying where they were and charging an extra couple of quid?

 

Because demands outstripped supply at Highbury. You know, putting it simply they filled their ground week in week out for years and they had compelling evidence they could fill a bigger stadium without spending millions and millions and millions and then reducing prices to a third of what they are now to sell them. Not difficult is it.

[farawaysaint]

Because demands outstripped supply at Highbury. You know, putting it simply they filled their ground week in week out for years and they had compelling evidence they could fill a bigger stadium without spending millions and millions and millions and then reducing prices to a third of what they are now to sell them. Not difficult is it.

 

Exactly the same reason Spurs are , (realistically,) going to expand. A huge season ticket back-log and loads of sell-outs. Exactly what we DON'T have at the moment.

[Sour Mash]

A huge help, I'll stop badgering him for free tickets!

 

I'm saying he falls under the category of trying to understand why people at the club would want to expand.

This whole thread is trying to understand why we'd expand, particularly to some of the high amounts suggested.

[Turkish]

Exactly the same reason Spurs are , (realistically,) going to expand. A huge season ticket back-log and loads of sell-outs. Exactly what we DON'T have at the moment.

 

I believe Spurs have a waiting list of around 15,000 for season tickets as well as a tired membership scheme where you pay xxx amount simply for the right to be able buy tickets for gold, silver or bronze games. At least I think that's how it works. Either way their waiting list and membership scheme prove they need a bigger stadium, the fact we don't have one proves we don't.

[Frank's cousin]

It is as ridiculous as some are making out. It is utterly ridiculous.

 

Spending millions expanding a stadium in order to sell ten thousand of those seats at £15 a time, maybe £20 for the superduper posh premium ones. Utterly laughable. As others have pointed out you can't get into some League One and Two grounds for that.

 

And why would you need to "properly market" Premier League tickets at fifteen quid a pop? It's a flipping giveaway and they'd sell out within minutes of going on sale for every match. To people who were going to go anyway.

 

"Pay for itself in four years" means makes zero money in four years. Especially as your entire business model is designed simply to pay for the stadium as opposed to gate reciepts contributing to the actual income of the club. And paying off a stadium expansion in just four years is fairyland stuff anyway.

 

And you seem to be assuming that slashing prices is going to automatically equate to 42,000 sell outs, rather than, say the people currently paying a lot more than that just snapping up the cheaper tickets. There's no evidence anywhere that we can regularly get 42,000 through the door.

 

Here's an idea to generate real income. A million quid a season. No risk. No mortgage. Just delicious money into the club.

 

It's easy. £2 average ticket price rise next season. And again the season after that. And again. And again.

 

Pays for itself in zero days. Easy, aint it?

 

Fail

 

1. Its not £20 for the 'posh seats - its £5 more than current pricing with the rest left as is or there abouts - a model PROVEN to work as mentioned previously.

 

2. The 'properly marketed' refers to the spend by fans AT the ground - ensuring beer/food and environment is good enough to ensure fans spend money

 

3. Read the bit again about how the investmnet cost 'COULD' be covered in 4 years, but as stated with these things the investmnet is usually spread over 10-15 years meaning a NET positive contribution each season - or did you not bother reading anything? (as is pretty typical of you Mr Angry feckwit appraoch to responding)

 

4. The classic 'Englander' rsponse to these things seems to be, It costs £20+ for L2, why should it be cheaper in the Prem' - well would you say £20 in L2 represents value and is priced to encourage greater attendance?

 

5. Take your head out your backside for 5 minutes and a) recognise we are talking hyperthetically, so getting all precious about it seems pathetically juvenile, b) Why when it comes to prcing are fans desperate to complain about the cost of football pricing out the 'traditional' demographic, yet the moment anyone 'hyperthetically' suggests a model, that is PROVEN to work in other countries and COULD 'hyperthetically' work in this country if there was a WILL, and would allow a club like saints to generate an increase in NET income, allow more fans the opportunity - you are so fricken negative towards it? Football in this country will NOT change if no clubs or fans are supportive of change. An expansion could enable us to generate increased revenue whilst at teh same time encouraging greater demand through a different pricing model. NC may not agree or even look at, feck knows, but someone has yet to tell me how if he does have expansion plans, how he expects to fill it at £35-£45+ a ticket - that is certainly guarranteed.

[trousers]

If tickets were £15 - £20 I would go to circa twice as many games as I do now. True story.

 

Btw, I went to Sainsbury's last night and the crafty buggers are selling Heinz beans at half the price of my local corner shop. They should have them on at a higher price as they get more people at Sainsbury's than the corner shop. Madness.

[Turkish]

Fail

 

1. Its not £20 for the 'posh seats - its £5 more than current pricing with the rest left as is or there abouts - a model PROVEN to work as mentioned previously.

 

2. The 'properly marketed' refers to the spend by fans AT the ground - ensuring beer/food and environment is good enough to ensure fans spend money

 

3. Read the bit again about how the investmnet cost 'COULD' be covered in 4 years, but as stated with these things the investmnet is usually spread over 10-15 years meaning a NET positive contribution each season - or did you not bother reading anything? (as is pretty typical of you Mr Angry feckwit appraoch to responding)

 

4. The classic 'Englander' rsponse to these things seems to be, It costs £20+ for L2, why should it be cheaper in the Prem' - well would you say £20 in L2 represents value and is priced to encourage greater attendance?

 

5. Take your head out your backside for 5 minutes and a) recognise we are talking hyperthetically, so getting all precious about it seems pathetically juvenile, b) Why when it comes to prcing are fans desperate to complain about the cost of football pricing out the 'traditional' demographic, yet the moment anyone 'hyperthetically' suggests a model, that is PROVEN to work in other countries and COULD 'hyperthetically' work in this country if there was a WILL, and would allow a club like saints to generate an increase in NET income, allow more fans the opportunity - you are so fricken negative towards it? Football in this country will NOT change if no clubs or fans are supportive of change. An expansion could enable us to generate increased revenue whilst at teh same time encouraging greater demand through a different pricing model. NC may not agree or even look at, feck knows, but someone has yet to tell me how if he does have expansion plans, how he expects to fill it at £35-£45+ a ticket - that is certainly guarranteed.

 

No. Still makes no sense.

[Sour Mash]

If tickets were £15 - £20 I would go to circa twice as many games as I do now. True story.

 

Btw, I went to Sainsbury's last night and the crafty buggers are selling Heinz beans at half the price of my local corner shop. They should have them on at a higher price as they get more people at Sainsbury's than the corner shop. Madness.

So we should spend £40m+ just so the club can make the same amount of money from you that it is currently making? Agreed, madness.

[Frank's cousin]

Exactly the same reason Spurs are , (realistically,) going to expand. A huge season ticket back-log and loads of sell-outs. Exactly what we DON'T have at the moment.

 

Exactly, so If NC IS serious about expansion, I want to know the strategy for filling it - as I believe we have enough interest in football in the city and surounding area, If its affordable, but not at current prices. I do NOT believe that anyone serious in football business would not at Least look at the way the Bundesliga clubs crawled their way out of financial problems, and now have the highest attendance and some of the most successful clubs in Europe for what was for such a long time an unfashionble league - One in which MOST fan and supporter groups would WELCOME in this country... but lets all stick our collective heads up our backsides, moan about pricing, but refuse to entertain any model that is different that could address this.

 

We are not Spurs or Arsenal, we dont ahve the waiting lists of mugs wanting to pay £1000 a season - but we do have many thousand who would increase the frequency of attending - possibly even get an ST if it was more affordable..

[Frank's cousin]

No. Still makes no sense.

 

 

FFS Turks, no I have not done a detailed financial model, not sure that is required, but simple maths on adding 10000 at £15 + adding £5 to the cost of another 10000 + a £10-£15 beer and food spend would see a revenue of increase of around £400-£500k a match - £9 mill a season. Factor in additional cost of sales and paying an element to cover the investment cost (say 2mil a season), and we would still see a net Postive contribution to the bottom line each season... its not that difficult. Whether there would ever be teh WILL at the club to invest 30mil or so for an extra 4-5 mil a sesason IS another matter, but I dont know of another way we would get 42K let alone 48K a week without a substantial revamp of the pricing structure... you tell me how if NC is serious on this?

[Joensuu]

So much anger against those who think big. Anyone care to tell me why ambition works them into a fury so much?

 

If Cortese wants to expand I'm sure he'll have done his calculations. Only he knows what the accounts look like. He has huge ambition, as we have recently witnessed, will 32k really be enough for a club aiming for the top?

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[Thedelldays]

No matter how many times you say it

 

There will be no £15 individual ticket for SmS in the prem

 

Like I said, it costs more to watch the team 22nd in league 2

[trousers]

So we should spend £40m+ just so the club can make the same amount of money from you that it is currently making? Agreed, madness.

 

Have you taken into account that, over the course of the season, I would inevitably end up spending more on subsidiary items (food, megastore, etc)?

 

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loss_leader

[hypochondriac]

I haven't read this thread but I presume the usual suspects are wittering on about dynamic pricing, being bigger than Everton and about 4th being achievable and if we don't believe that then we aren't ambitious enough and need to start thinking differently. Am I right?

[trousers]

I haven't read this thread but I presume the usual suspects are wittering on about dynamic pricing, being bigger than Everton and about 4th being achievable and if we don't believe that then we aren't ambitious enough and need to start thinking differently. Am I right?

 

Yep, lots of "usual suspects " wittering on one way or the other...then you get one or two "usual suspects" commenting on how much the other "usual suspects" are wittering on...

Edited 5 February, 2013 by trousers

[Frank's cousin]

I haven't read this thread but I presume the usual suspects are wittering on about dynamic pricing, being bigger than Everton and about 4th being achievable and if we don't believe that then we aren't ambitious enough and need to start thinking differently. Am I right?

 

Such an enlightening contibution - so far no other clubs have been mentioned.... you are safe though, no one is going to bully you.

[pap]

Most businesses share broadly similar aims, irrespective of what they actually do.

 

1) Increase profitability

2) Expand customer base

 

Assuming that the board fancy achieving both of these, how do they go about it?

 

Profitability could theoretically be increased either by hiking prices or lowering the quality of the experience. Both have risks. We're not filling the ground with prices as they are. A big part of that is down to existing pricing. There have been plenty of times where I've quite fancied going to a game but have had to jip it off due to unjustifiable costs.

 

Some might argue that the expansion of the customer base is already happening by virtue of us being in the Premier League, and being presented across the world in the various EPL packages. That's true in terms of people watching us. I do wonder how much revenue our global exposure actually makes us, over and above the TV money we get from the Premier League. Is it just shirt sales and merchandise that we get once the TV revenue is in?

 

Reading this thread, there are two conflicting opinions on what we should do. One of them makes no sense from a football perspective, or at least the perspective of certain Saints fans ( we'll never make 48K ). The other makes no sense from a business perspective ( we will never expand our premises because we'll never need to ).

 

Now, a jump from 32K to 48K looks mental on current attendances, but in reality, it's another 16K more fans. If we're going to expand, then it makes sense to cover ourselves for the future as well.

 

Like Frank's Cousin and suewhistle, I suspect there is a sweet spot to be found regarding pricing which would get a lot more people into the ground.

[Frank's cousin]

No matter how many times you say it

 

There will be no £15 individual ticket for SmS in the prem

 

Like I said, it costs more to watch the team 22nd in league 2

 

You may well be totally 100% right.... but question for you. Do you think that IF NC is SERIOUS about expansion, he would or would not have looked at other financial models such as those in Germany (where they are sold out each eek and doing pretty well) in order to understand how they fill it each week... given that he knows we CURRENTLY do not sell out every week at the current prices...?

[Sour Mash]

Have you taken into account that, over the course of the season, I would inevitably end up spending more on subsidiary items (food, megastore, etc)?

 

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loss_leader

And most of any extra profit made would be eaten up by additional policing and stewarding. How much do you spend on average at the Megastore for a typical home game out of interest?

[trousers]

And most of any extra profit made would be eaten up by additional policing and stewarding. How much do you spend on average at the Megastore for a typical home game out of interest?

 

About £25-£30 I guess. Similar amount on food and drink. (That's total for me + my son). I get to c.6-7 home games a season.

[Thedelldays]

You may well be totally 100% right.... but question for you. Do you think that IF NC is SERIOUS about expansion' date=' he would or would not have looked at other financial models such as those in Germany (where they are sold out each eek and doing pretty well) in order to understand how they fill it each week... given that he knows we CURRENTLY do not sell out every week at the current prices...?[/quote']

 

I'm sure he has looked at it. But unless football in the country changes as a whole. And he then allows 50% fan ownership like the Germans

 

Then it simply ain't going to happen. Despite how many times you type it.

[minime]

just a thought...but could it be part of markus's legacy that once established in the premiership that another tranche of monies would be available for the stadium like the training ground? after all there was talk of £300m....

[tajjuk]

I can't see a single post where he's recommended it. I can't see a single post where he's said he thinks the stadium should be expanded at all. As far as I can see he hasn't said that we should build a 58k stadium and he hasn't said we should slash prices.

 

like everyone else he's struggling to see why there would be plans to build such a thing and has searched for the only possible way it could be filled. I don't think anybody so far on this thread has said we should build such a big stadium. It's a consensus of agreement, but this is SWF and people have to argue about something, so FC has suggested the only feasible way he can think of that such a stadium could be filled and most other posters have decided to interpret this as him saying this should happen. That's how it seems to me anyhow.

 

Spot on.

 

Some people on here are massively inflexible in their thinking, it;s their way or nothing and they just spout the same drivel over and over, to be honest there is little point talking to them.

 

We aren't going to expand to 58k, the maximum for the stadium is 48k and we aren't going to expand to that any time soon.

 

However the club are very seriously thinking about some level of expansion whatever some stuck in the mud 'nothing will change, not possible' SWF poster says. So maybe discuss sensibly with a bit of an open mind or get out of the thread.

 

You may well be totally 100% right.... but question for you. Do you think that IF NC is SERIOUS about expansion' date=' he would or would not have looked at other financial models such as those in Germany (where they are sold out each eek and doing pretty well) in order to understand how they fill it each week... given that he knows we CURRENTLY do not sell out every week at the current prices...?[/quote']

 

On the basis that we have visited many other clubs to look at their training and youth academy set ups and techniques I would think he has.

 

But of course we couldn't do this because everyone in the Premiership would have to do it first, because you can't go against the status quo

Edited 5 February, 2013 by tajjuk

[Frank's cousin]

I'm sure he has looked at it. But unless football in the country changes as a whole. And he then allows 50% fan ownership like the Germans

 

Then it simply ain't going to happen. Despite how many times you type it.

 

1. I am not sure the 50 fan ownership has any impact on the viabilty or not of the financial model they sue, it may be a driver behind it

2. I dont see why you say the WHOLE of football has to change. The only way it would ever change is if some clubs make a decsion to do so, refusing to accet that the pricing as its heading is in the best interests of the game, the fans and the clubs longer term.

 

I am not saying this IS the way to go, I am not saying its the ONLY solution, I am not saying NC is going to do it, but this whole question always comes back to a simple fact - there is simply no point in having a bigger ground unless you can fill it and by doing so INCREASE net revenues. I am simply proposing that that the ONLY solution I can think of that would achieve both these aims is a different financial model, proven to work elsewhere - and if thsi is NOT in NCs thinking, what is?

[Sour Mash]

1. I am not sure the 50 fan ownership has any impact on the viabilty or not of the financial model they sue, it may be a driver behind it

2. I dont see why you say the WHOLE of football has to change. The only way it would ever change is if some clubs make a decsion to do so, refusing to accet that the pricing as its heading is in the best interests of the game, the fans and the clubs longer term.

 

I am not saying this IS the way to go, I am not saying its the ONLY solution, I am not saying NC is going to do it, but this whole question always comes back to a simple fact - there is simply no point in having a bigger ground unless you can fill it and by doing so INCREASE net revenues. I am simply proposing that that the ONLY solution I can think of that would achieve both these aims is a different financial model, proven to work elsewhere - and if thsi is NOT in NCs thinking, what is?

Maybe NC thinks that there are tens of thousands more people happy to pay £40 once we're in the top 4-6?

[Sour Mash]

Spot on.

 

Some people on here are massively inflexible in their thinking, it;s their way or nothing and they just spout the same drivel over and over, to be honest there is little point talking to them.

 

We aren't going to expand to 58k, the maximum for the stadium is 48k and we aren't going to expand to that any time soon.

 

However the club are very seriously thinking about some level of expansion whatever some stuck in the mud 'nothing will change, not possible' SWF poster says. So maybe discuss sensibly with a bit of an open mind or get out of the thread.

 

 

 

On the basis that we have visited many other clubs to look at their training and youth academy set ups and techniques I would think he has.

 

But of course we couldn't do this because everyone in the Premiership would have to do it first, because you can't go against the status quo

People are discussing it with an open mind, you are the only person to post that people should "get off the thread" which is quite a sad viewpoint.

[Sour Mash]

About £25-£30 I guess. Similar amount on food and drink. (That's total for me + my son). I get to c.6-7 home games a season.

You spend £30 on food at every home game? Of course you do.

[tajjuk]

People are discussing it with an open mind, you are the only person to post that people should "get off the thread" which is quite a sad viewpoint.

 

Some people are, others have essentially posted the same thing several times on several posts. No one in the thread has actually said this is a good idea, not that many people have noticed.

[mikee]

None of us really know what is in Cortese's head so I don't really understand why some people are stating their opinion to be fact and others opinion to be delusion.

 

I can see a situation where cheaper ticket prices and expansion could co-exist - particularly if combined with safe standing areas.

 

The TV money will only stay high if there is a good atmosphere in the stadiums for the armchair punters to enjoy. There is already talk of some of the increased TV money being used to subsidise ticket prices - particularly away fans.

 

It is not inconceivable to have around 15K safe standing tickets (10K home, 5K away) available at under £20.

 

This opinion is just a valid as those that say it will never happen.

[trousers]

You spend £30 on food at every home game? Of course you do.

 

What colour underpants am I wearing at the moment?

[Sour Mash]

What colour underpants am I wearing at the moment?

Saints ones bought in the Megastore for £20?

[rooney]

They had a massive season ticket waiting list for a start.

 

and that is the crux of the whole business case for stadium expansion. If NC can sell 25K season tickets each year for 3/5 years at SMS, then we may be in business.

[CHAPEL END CHARLIE]

It would be impossible with the current system but if they moved to a more German system, changed peoples mentality then 45k or 50k for the big games would be possible. If it was £10 for behind the goals, season tickets for just over £100, family tickets, company group tickets etc and the 'match experience' in other parts of the ground (for the plastics looking for a day out) were improved, it might be possible. Most on here would hate it though as they would see tickets advertised on billboards etc but as a business concept, I wouldn't rule it out.

 

It's probably a bit like a big car factory - they only make real money when they're working 24/7 - three shift a day - flat out. In a similar way any sensible economic case for expanding St Marys will probably require you to sell the stadium out virtually every game at (non discounted) ticket prices. If each new seat would (say) cost £2000 to add, then a 'kids for a quid' policy would require 2000 years to see a profit.

 

 

The Germanic business model does look more to the long term than the traditional British approach, but not quite that long term methinks.

[eurosaint]

Have not read the whole thread but would like to make a point about German stadia and income :

They have 'safe standing' areas (typically one end, behind the goal) which increases capacity and is cheaper !

I realise that this may still be far off in terms of political will, but at a stroke would increase our capacity without investing so many millions !

Maybe Nicola should lobby for this change and at the same time make a lot of fans very happy !

[Sour Mash]

Have not read the whole thread but would like to make a point about German stadia and income :

They have 'safe standing' areas (typically one end, behind the goal) which increases capacity and is cheaper !

I realise that this may still be far off in terms of political will, but at a stroke would increase our capacity without investing so many millions !

Maybe Nicola should lobby for this change and at the same time make a lot of fans very happy !

Would still cost many millions to convert St Marys in this way.

[Spudders]

Because demands outstripped supply at Highbury. You know, putting it simply they filled their ground week in week out for years and they had compelling evidence they could fill a bigger stadium without spending millions and millions and millions and then reducing prices to a third of what they are now to sell them. Not difficult is it.

I had a mate who used to go to Highbury under someone else's season ticket. He was on a waiting list to get on the main waiting list to get his own season ticket.

[trousers]

Saints ones bought in the Megastore for £20?

 

Christ....you really CAN read my mind.....scary....

[Frank's cousin]

Maybe NC thinks that there are tens of thousands more people happy to pay £40 once we're in the top 4-6?

 

 

I suspect if he thinks that, he has not yet done any market research.

 

We have to acknowldge that what makes other clubs 'bigger' is greater regular attandances - the image this conveys, the media interest, the attraction to players when combined with anticipated and real success etc... Dont discount the 'size of my stadium' ego factor in this either - this will not drive a decision obvously, but it will drive the desire to find a workable and pragmatic solution/business plan to make is feasible.

[The Kraken]

58000. I can't believe this is actually being talked about with any sense of credibility. Expansion? Yes, in fact quite likely if we continue to grow over a few years. Unrealistic (in fact plain stupid) over expansion? Simply no.

[Greenridge]

After reading on here how many people will no longer be attending due to the Adkins sacking I can't see how we will need any form of expansion.

[Frank's cousin]

Have not read the whole thread but would like to make a point about German stadia and income :

They have 'safe standing' areas (typically one end, behind the goal) which increases capacity and is cheaper !

I realise that this may still be far off in terms of political will, but at a stroke would increase our capacity without investing so many millions !

Maybe Nicola should lobby for this change and at the same time make a lot of fans very happy !

 

As Sour says, there is a big cost involved, even if there was the politcal wiill... as I understand it the rake for standing and the width of the tread is different for the safe standing spec.

[Frank's cousin]

58000. I can't believe this is actually being talked about with any sense of credibility. Expansion? Yes, in fact quite likely if we continue to grow over a few years. Unrealistic (in fact plain stupid) over expansion? Simply no.

 

 

Dont think anyone was taking 58k seriousl Kracken - 5 to 8000 yes, but not 58k

[SaintRichmond]

You may well be totally 100% right.... but question for you. Do you think that IF NC is SERIOUS about expansion' date=' he would or would not have looked at other financial models such as those in Germany (where they are sold out each eek and doing pretty well) in order to understand how they fill it each week...[b'] given that he knows we CURRENTLY do not sell out every week at the current prices...?[/[/b]QUOTE]

 

 

Just a thought ... we currently hold circa 32000, so, for the sake of Maths

32000 X £20 (admission) = £640,000 (per Match)

 

IF we were to expand to (say) 40000 ........ to simply get the SAME Revenue per Match

 

£640,000 Divided by 40000 = £14.22 ..... far more attractive to Supporters

 

NOW, I'm not for one minute saying that Cortese would actually charge just £14.22 .... I am just trying to illustrate that having a bigger Stadium COULD result in cheaper Admission prices than they are at present

 

Having a 32000 Stadium dictates what has to be charged to obtain a "solvent" Business

 

Having a 45000 Stadium "eases" the pressure on how much has to be charged tostill realise that solvency

 

Just a thought ....... kindly wait until I don my crash helmet

[Greenridge]

That doesn't account for the cost involved in the expansion though....

[Tokyo-Saint]

That doesn't account for the cost involved in the expansion though....

 

Very true but we have a special technique to negate the cost of building work. What we do is when they are half way through building something we have an argument with them, make their job impossible and get them to walk of site. Cause they walked off site, we then refuse to pay them, leave it a bit and then sell the rest of the contract to another firm. This means we only have to pay half of what it looked like we would have to pay.

 

Sour mash and Turkish didn't take that into consideration did they?