Thedelldays Posted 10 February, 2013 Posted 10 February, 2013 would rather a hammers win.....if a draw is not possible
tajjuk Posted 10 February, 2013 Posted 10 February, 2013 would rather a hammers win.....if a draw is not possible yeh draw would be good but reckon Villa will win.
JustinR Posted 10 February, 2013 Posted 10 February, 2013 I'm starting to feel confident enough to look at catching the teams above us rather than keep clear of those below us. This! Come on, lets have a thread like this for teams aiming for around 10th. Coz thats the plan from here on in, its very clear now
Griffo Posted 10 February, 2013 Posted 10 February, 2013 Who? Weimann just missed what was pretty much an open goal.
Dr Who? Posted 10 February, 2013 Posted 10 February, 2013 Just turned it on, thought it was 13:45 kick off. Would fancy villa more away, than at home. So much pressure a villa park!
Dr Who? Posted 10 February, 2013 Posted 10 February, 2013 They looked good at Swansea and Everton, but have been terrible a villa park!
Latheal Posted 10 February, 2013 Posted 10 February, 2013 Reading worry me....just look at their home games... looking at that, it is hard to see QPR getting enough points... every time we fuk up a win, it puts added pressure on games like the man city game...... Equally, everybody going there will also see it as a chance of 3pts.
sidthesquid Posted 10 February, 2013 Posted 10 February, 2013 I reckon that all the teams from Wet Sham in 11th down are in a relegation fight now - they Fulham and Norwich are getting dragged in and it's all about momentum from here on in.
Super_Saint Posted 10 February, 2013 Posted 10 February, 2013 Tottenham (A) - 0 points Stoke (A) - 0 points Man Utd (H) - 0 points Chelsea (A) - 0 points West Brom (H) - 3 points Liverpool (A) - 0 points Southampton (A) - 0 points Wigan (H) - 3 points Man City (A) - 0 points Newcastle (H) - 1 point Everton (A) - 0 points Reading (H) - 3 points 10 points to leave them on 40 come the end of the season, which should almost certainly keep them up. If they do happen to lose their next four games, which I think they will, confidence will be very low going into the game against WBA so who knows where that might leave them.
Saint Garrett Posted 10 February, 2013 Author Posted 10 February, 2013 Would be hilarious if WHU went down. The amount of abuse I get from WHU fans. Mentioned how I think Morgan and Cork are one of the best CM partnerships at the moment....got a comment that Diame and Noble are a lot better......Ok then.
Olallana Posted 10 February, 2013 Posted 10 February, 2013 Would be hilarious if WHU went down. The amount of abuse I get from WHU fans. Mentioned how I think Morgan and Cork are one of the best CM partnerships at the moment....got a comment that Diame and Noble are a lot better......Ok then. Diame and Noble ARE better......at watching the ball fly over their heads for 90 minutes a week.... Would be very interesting to see stats on them how many passes they have each game compared to Cork/Spider...
CanadaSaint Posted 10 February, 2013 Posted 10 February, 2013 A win for us up at Newcastle would drag them right back into it again. And, with Villa pulling West Ham well and truly into it today, there are literally 8 or 9 teams with a very realistic chance of going down. I don't remember it being this tight at the bottom.
Saint Garrett Posted 10 February, 2013 Author Posted 10 February, 2013 As much as there are other teams being dragged in, I still think it will be 3 from the bottom 4.
Lighthouse Posted 10 February, 2013 Posted 10 February, 2013 I'd honnestly take our fixtures out of all of those. A trip to Spuds is about as tough as it gets, in theory. Every other game I'd have labled as winnable. Swansea, Liverpool and Chelsea are about the toughest of the rest. I don't think Reading's fixtures are all that good. Yes they have some home games against other relegation candidates but those games will be edge and could go either way. Fail to win a couple of those and they will be in big trouble. Then they have away games at Arsenal, Man Utd and Everton. Trips to Fulham, West Ham and Norwich wont be easy either. I'd have them down as draws at best, unless they pull off some astonishing results. From those fixtures I'd guess at February 23: Wigan (H) WIN March 2: Everton (A) LOSE March 9: Aston Villa (H) WIN March 16: Manchester United (A) LOSE March 30: Arsenal (A) LOSE April 6: Southampton (H) DRAW April 13: Liverpool (H) DRAW April 20: Norwich (A) DRAW April 27: QPR (H) WIN May 4: Fulham (A) DRAW May 12: Man City (H) LOSE May 19: West Ham (A) DRAW Thats 37 points being VERY generous and assuming they will get 10 points from 12 in their relegation crunch games. That's only 10 points above what we've got now. If we win our home games against West Brom, Wham, Stoke and QPR I'm 90% sure we will finish above them.
leithsaint Posted 10 February, 2013 Posted 10 February, 2013 Neither qpr nor wigan will finish on much more than 31/32 points. Reading and Villa will get around 35/36. Any team with 37 plus will be safe. In my opinion.
CanadaSaint Posted 10 February, 2013 Posted 10 February, 2013 As much as there are other teams being dragged in, I still think it will be 3 from the bottom 4. I'm inclined to agree with you, but the face-to-face games between the bottom teams are going to decide a lot. In that context, I think Reading have 4H and 1A, Villa have 3H and 3A, QPR have 3H and 4A, Wigan have 2H and 2A, Newcastle have 4H and 2A, and we have 1H and 3A. There's a ton of potential volatility in there.
Thedelldays Posted 10 February, 2013 Posted 10 February, 2013 I think we are 3 wins and a draw away from safety.....37 will be enough IMO
Olallana Posted 10 February, 2013 Posted 10 February, 2013 I'm inclined to agree with you, but the face-to-face games between the bottom teams are going to decide a lot. In that context, I think Reading have 4H and 1A, Villa have 3H and 3A, QPR have 3H and 4A, Wigan have 2H and 2A, Newcastle have 4H and 2A, and we have 1H and 3A. There's a ton of potential volatility in there. I think one thing we have going for us is that under MP we play a similar game home or away. Some of the other teams really struggle away compared to us at the moment.
Saint Garrett Posted 10 February, 2013 Author Posted 10 February, 2013 I think we are 3 wins and a draw away from safety.....37 will be enough IMO Thought you said we were dead certs to go down !!??
Thedelldays Posted 10 February, 2013 Posted 10 February, 2013 Thought you said we were dead certs to go down !!?? yeah....yeah we are.. and we will lose at Newcastle......
Saint Garrett Posted 10 February, 2013 Author Posted 10 February, 2013 Good keep going...I think the players see your negativity and go out to prove you wrong
SuperMikey Posted 10 February, 2013 Posted 10 February, 2013 Reading vs Wigan will be an interesting game on the 23rd - Reading like to play on the counter and Wigan like to keep the ball. Will be interesting to see who comes out on top in that game, although hopefully it'll be a draw!
sidthesquid Posted 10 February, 2013 Posted 10 February, 2013 On form over last 10 games carried into next 10, the table wouyld look like this with 2 games to go (bracket figure is points earnt in last 10 games) 11 Sunderland 42 (13) 12 Saints 39 (12) 13 Fulham 38 (9) 14 West Ham 38 ( 15 Newcastle 37 (10) 16 Reading 37 (14) 17 Norwich 36 (7) 18 Aston Villa 33 (9) 19 Wigan 27 (6) 20 QPR 27 (10) I'd take that now if offered
Chewy Posted 10 February, 2013 Posted 10 February, 2013 Reading vs Wigan will be an interesting game on the 23rd - Reading like to play on the counter and Wigan like to keep the ball. Will be interesting to see who comes out on top in that game, although hopefully it'll be a draw! Reading are a conundrum. Clearly not very good with average players but they got promoted on the back of an incredible run of form and are threatening to stay up on the back of similarly good form. I hope they don't ...
Saint Garrett Posted 10 February, 2013 Author Posted 10 February, 2013 Just flicking through a WHU forum and found this golden post... Assuming we stay up, I hope we keep him. Teams like Swansea only have one way to play. There is no plan B. As we improve the quality in our team, we will play more attractive football, but also have the option to hit it long into a target man. I don't see the point of that tippy tappy football. Passing for the sake of it is pointless unless you have Xavi, Iniesta etc... You need to pass with purpose like the Germans do.
positivepete Posted 10 February, 2013 Posted 10 February, 2013 Blimey, Big Sam writes on their forum?
Turkish Posted 10 February, 2013 Posted 10 February, 2013 Reading vs Wigan will be an interesting game on the 23rd - Reading like to play on the counter and Wigan like to keep the ball. Will be interesting to see who comes out on top in that game, although hopefully it'll be a draw! cant see beyond a Reading win on that one i'm afraid. I'd rather they go down than Wigan.
Thedelldays Posted 10 February, 2013 Posted 10 February, 2013 be interesting to see how we get on against teams who just hoof the ball.. west ham and a lesser extent...newcastle
Frank's cousin Posted 10 February, 2013 Posted 10 February, 2013 Just flicking through a WHU forum and found this golden post... Aye West Ham play like the Germans! Hahahahahahahah love it!
Turkish Posted 10 February, 2013 Posted 10 February, 2013 be interesting to see how we get on against teams who just hoof the ball.. west ham and a lesser extent...newcastle We did alright against Stoke
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 10 February, 2013 Posted 10 February, 2013 Looks like anyone in the bottom half is going to get involved in a relegation fight. If you are within 6pts of relegation I think you are very involved. A few teams may pull away in March but I was convinced it was 3 from 5 (Us, Villa, Wigan, Reading, and QPR) at the start of January and now I think several more teams are involved (Norwich, Fulham, Sunderland, West Ham). I can guarantee all their fans are looking over their shoulders and at their fixtures.
Badger Posted 10 February, 2013 Posted 10 February, 2013 Aye West Ham play like the Germans! Hahahahahahahah love it! Alf Garnett would turn in his grave at such a suggestion.
Turkish Posted 10 February, 2013 Posted 10 February, 2013 anyone on 29 or 30 points is fairly safe. They will only need another 8 or 9 points to be safe. Can you really see WIgan, QPR, Reading & Villa getting 16-17 points (QPR need 21) from their last 12 games, especially as they all play each other as well.
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 10 February, 2013 Posted 10 February, 2013 anyone on 29 or 30 points is fairly safe. They will only need another 8 or 9 points to be safe. Can you really see WIgan, QPR, Reading & Villa getting 16-17 points (QPR need 21) from their last 12 games, especially as they all play each other as well. You are probably right, but Reading looked dead and buried and picked up 10pts from 5 games so its not impossible to go on an unexpected run. And of the teams on 29 or 30pts, they aren't in the best of form, so it wouldn't surprise me to see one of them dragged right into it.
Turkish Posted 10 February, 2013 Posted 10 February, 2013 You are probably right' date=' but Reading looked dead and buried and picked up 10pts from 5 games so its not impossible to go on an unexpected run. And of the teams on 29 or 30pts, they aren't in the best of form, so it wouldn't surprise me to see one of them dragged right into it.[/quote'] Of course it's possible but for all their great run of late Reading are still in the drop zone tonight. I just cant see them getting 7 points more than Fulham, Norwich and Sunderland over the remaining 12 games, for Wigan they need 9 points more from the same 12 games. We've given ourselves a great chance of staying up with yesterdays win andd 3 points from the Newcastle or QPR games would see the home straight in sight. The bottom 4 all play each other in the run in so will also be taking points of each other. Realistically it's going to change an incredible swing in form for the teams just above us to be sucked in and we could get ourselves within touching distance of safety with 4-6 points from our next 3 games which given our current form in most definitely achievable.
david in sweden Posted 10 February, 2013 Posted 10 February, 2013 Can West Ham survive ....OK it's a joke, right ? well.. .maybe not . YES - They are 3 points ahead of us, but Villa and Reading aren't laying down dead yet and WHam's remaining games are looking quite formidable. Their fixtures are a split between key games against several relegation sides.... and some more against some of the top six ....nearly all AWAY. Big Sam might be in a very unpleasant situation ....come April.
SaintRobbie Posted 10 February, 2013 Posted 10 February, 2013 Bottom of the league teams? Not so sure about this. I am expecting us to kick on to mid table at least at the moment! This thread is going to be so irrelevant in 2-3 weeks Also - Stoke, WBA and West Ham have all been in terrible form over the past 6 games. We'll overtake the mid-table teams at this rate! But for the record, this is what I think we can achieve if we continue in the form we are in. SOUTHAMPTON Fixtures - 27 points February 23 Newcastle (A) Saints WIN 2-1 March 2: QPR (H) Saints WIN 4-0 March 9: Norwich (A) Saints WIN 2-1 March 16: Liverpool (H) DRAW - 2-2 March 30 Chelsea (H) LOSS (I sense Chelsea revenge may be on the cards!) 1-2 April 6: Reading (A) Saints WIN - 2-1.All you have to do with Reading is not switch of in the last 10 minutes. April 13: West Ham (H) Saints WIN - 3-1. April 20: Swansea (A) LOSS - Swans are motoring this season April 27: West Brom (H) Saints WIN 3-1. WBA form is awful. May 4: Tottenham (A) Saints LOSS 2-1. Spuds are firing on all cylinders. May 12: Sunderland (A) Saints LOSS 2-1. Sunderland will be struggling and its a long trip. May 19: Stoke (H) Saints WIN 3-1. Stoke are in poor form. 22 extra points putting us on 59, and a top half finish. Its possible, its really possible.
Saints boy in Leeds Posted 10 February, 2013 Posted 10 February, 2013 IMO it will be more like 38 - 40.
Thedelldays Posted 10 February, 2013 Posted 10 February, 2013 Bottom of the league teams? Not so sure about this. I am expecting us to kick on to mid table at least at the moment! This thread is going to be so irrelevant in 2-3 weeks Also - Stoke, WBA and West Ham have all been in terrible form over the past 6 games. We'll overtake the mid-table teams at this rate! But for the record, this is what I think we can achieve if we continue in the form we are in. SOUTHAMPTON Fixtures - 27 points February 23 Newcastle (A) Saints WIN 2-1 March 2: QPR (H) Saints WIN 4-0 March 9: Norwich (A) Saints WIN 2-1 March 16: Liverpool (H) DRAW - 2-2 March 30 Chelsea (H) LOSS (I sense Chelsea revenge may be on the cards!) 1-2 April 6: Reading (A) Saints WIN - 2-1.All you have to do with Reading is not switch of in the last 10 minutes. April 13: West Ham (H) Saints WIN - 3-1. April 20: Swansea (A) LOSS - Swans are motoring this season April 27: West Brom (H) Saints WIN 3-1. WBA form is awful. May 4: Tottenham (A) Saints LOSS 2-1. Spuds are firing on all cylinders. May 12: Sunderland (A) Saints LOSS 2-1. Sunderland will be struggling and its a long trip. May 19: Stoke (H) Saints WIN 3-1. Stoke are in poor form. 22 extra points putting us on 59, and a top half finish. Its possible, its really possible. Wow Respect to you... That is optimism
Olallana Posted 10 February, 2013 Posted 10 February, 2013 Wow Respect to you... That is optimism and a bit of bad mathematics if 22 extra points put us on 59 when we are on 27 at the moment
Saint Lindford Posted 10 February, 2013 Posted 10 February, 2013 and a bit of bad mathematics if 22 extra points put us on 59 when we are on 27 at the moment Not bad maths just Pompey maths, anything is possible with that outlook.
pedg Posted 10 February, 2013 Posted 10 February, 2013 I suspect that soon we will end up with a bottom group of 4 or 5 and a large group of another 5 or 6 above them with a gap of 4 or 5 points between the two. At the moment we are at the cusp between these but I think we have enough going for us after yesterday to be part of the upper group.
hutch Posted 11 February, 2013 Posted 11 February, 2013 Aren't Man U safe then? No. If they implode between now and the end of the season they could drop down to second.
forever a red and white Posted 11 February, 2013 Posted 11 February, 2013 Looking at the fixtures it looks bad for QPR and Villa especially. But if QPR pick up a win against us and we fail to get anything at Newcastle, our fixtures in turn don't look too favorable either. So happy how we've been playing but cannot lose the feeling something will go wrong!
tajjuk Posted 11 February, 2013 Posted 11 February, 2013 (edited) Bottom of the league teams? Not so sure about this. I am expecting us to kick on to mid table at least at the moment! This thread is going to be so irrelevant in 2-3 weeks Also - Stoke, WBA and West Ham have all been in terrible form over the past 6 games. We'll overtake the mid-table teams at this rate! But for the record, this is what I think we can achieve if we continue in the form we are in. SOUTHAMPTON Fixtures - 27 points February 23 Newcastle (A) Saints WIN 2-1 March 2: QPR (H) Saints WIN 4-0 March 9: Norwich (A) Saints WIN 2-1 March 16: Liverpool (H) DRAW - 2-2 March 30 Chelsea (H) LOSS (I sense Chelsea revenge may be on the cards!) 1-2 April 6: Reading (A) Saints WIN - 2-1.All you have to do with Reading is not switch of in the last 10 minutes. April 13: West Ham (H) Saints WIN - 3-1. April 20: Swansea (A) LOSS - Swans are motoring this season April 27: West Brom (H) Saints WIN 3-1. WBA form is awful. May 4: Tottenham (A) Saints LOSS 2-1. Spuds are firing on all cylinders. May 12: Sunderland (A) Saints LOSS 2-1. Sunderland will be struggling and its a long trip. May 19: Stoke (H) Saints WIN 3-1. Stoke are in poor form. 22 extra points putting us on 59, and a top half finish. Its possible, its really possible. I think it's unlikely we are going to hit top 6 form, which I'm pretty sure that is. Newcastle away won't be that easy, they are good at home, have improved in form with their new signings. They were only beat by Bale on Saturday, otherwise they were pretty close. If we play like we did against Man City we can pick up results against anyone though. I would like to think from our home games against QPR, West Ham, West Brom, and Stoke we can get 10 from 12 points. We have a decent chance of picking up points from Reading, Norwich, Sunderland away and probably Liverpool at home. Reckon Spurs away, Chelsea home, Newcastle away and Swansea away will be zero points. We needa bout 37 or 38 to stay up, I reckon we will get to 41. Tottenham (A) - 0 points Stoke (A) - 0 points Man Utd (H) - 0 points Chelsea (A) - 0 points West Brom (H) - 3 points Liverpool (A) - 0 points Southampton (A) - 0 points Wigan (H) - 3 points Man City (A) - 0 points Newcastle (H) - 1 point Everton (A) - 0 points Reading (H) - 3 points 10 points to leave them on 40 come the end of the season, which should almost certainly keep them up. If they do happen to lose their next four games, which I think they will, confidence will be very low going into the game against WBA so who knows where that might leave them. lol, is that West Hams remaining fixtures? Stoke away, Man City away, Chelsea away, Liverpool away. Everton away, Spurs away and Utd at home. No wonder they are where they are, they have 4 of the top 6 to visit away from home! They could have 1 win in 10 by the time West Brom visit. Edited 11 February, 2013 by tajjuk
trousers Posted 11 February, 2013 Posted 11 February, 2013 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21408574 West Ham: Sam Allardyce told to seal survival before new deal talks West Ham co-chairman David Gold says the club will not talk to manager Sam Allardyce about a new contract until their Premier League future is secured.
saints-cris Posted 11 February, 2013 Posted 11 February, 2013 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21408574 Don't blame him, they were atrocious yesterday!
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