itchen_dan Posted 3 February, 2013 Share Posted 3 February, 2013 According to the Mirror, JWP is going on loan to Coventry to get experience. http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/southampton-transfer-news-james-ward-prowse-1573189 Would this be a good move or is he better off being here as he is currently on the fringes again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexstar Posted 3 February, 2013 Share Posted 3 February, 2013 If true I think this would be a mistake. We don't exactly have that many central midfield replacements and he can certainly hold his own in the Prem. Perhaps some experience would be good, but JWP is far better than League 1 standard. If we stay up get some summer signings and let him boss it at a mid-top Championship club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 3 February, 2013 Share Posted 3 February, 2013 Would be completely odd if so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 3 February, 2013 Share Posted 3 February, 2013 Perhaps we owe them a favour after the last game of last season?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 3 February, 2013 Share Posted 3 February, 2013 To Cov? He is a level or two above them. The wigan performance was superb, we need him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 3 February, 2013 Share Posted 3 February, 2013 If we continue loaning out the squad without replacing them, we won't be able to name a bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dellman Posted 4 February, 2013 Share Posted 4 February, 2013 I doubt it and I hope not. He is one of our squad the others who have been loaned were fringe (exc De Ridder). We have top training facilities and new coaches, JWP needs all that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andre Posted 4 February, 2013 Share Posted 4 February, 2013 Needs to stay. More competition ahead of him than Shaw, but absolute class. Played well at Wigan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leithsaint Posted 4 February, 2013 Share Posted 4 February, 2013 I would be surprised. Would have thought that the fact that he got on when he did shows that MoPo has faith in him. On the other hand, that would be a pretty random story for a journalist to just come up with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Jim Posted 4 February, 2013 Share Posted 4 February, 2013 Not sure Coventry would be the right choice for him, would have thought a Championship side would be better, but I have no issues with him going out on loan as long as there is a recall clause. I would rather him go on loan than appear for us only a couple more times. For his development he needs regular competitive action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazlo78 Posted 4 February, 2013 Share Posted 4 February, 2013 Weird story. JWP going to Coventry would be good for them and not too bad for him (basically because he would get loads of game time albeit at a lower level), but it would make little sense for us - he can't be too far off the first team, can he? I'll assume it's a hoax... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 4 February, 2013 Share Posted 4 February, 2013 Should stay, he is a great option to have as our 4th choice CM. was very good when he came on on Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 4 February, 2013 Share Posted 4 February, 2013 I think he was "sent to Coventry" after talking about Nigel in a positive way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 4 February, 2013 Share Posted 4 February, 2013 .....for a short term loan anyway. I think it's a good solution to bring on our " younger " players. Hoskins and Reeves and already out on loan - so why not ? Everyone admits JWP has great talent, but he's not better than our regular midfielders - at present...a run of a few games will give him the match practice he badly needs. Being on the bench, and (maybe) getting 15 mins. sub time isn't going to make him a Prem. player.....but getting 90 mins. games every week - just might. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 4 February, 2013 Share Posted 4 February, 2013 So Dave, who replaces him on the bench? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monk Posted 4 February, 2013 Share Posted 4 February, 2013 Always goes to Coventry on my FM and does well. Would be fully behind this had we brought Biglia in but not so sure now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patred44 Posted 4 February, 2013 Share Posted 4 February, 2013 .....for a short term loan anyway. I think it's a good solution to bring on our " younger " players. Hoskins and reeves and already out on loan - so why not ? Everyone admits jwp has great talent, but he's not better than our regular midfielders - at present...a run of a few games will give him the match practice he badly needs. Being on the bench, and (maybe) getting 15 mins. Sub time isn't going to make him a prem. Player.....but getting 90 mins. Games every week - just might. championship experience preferably Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 4 February, 2013 Share Posted 4 February, 2013 (edited) They have already got tons of midfielders, so it's no guarantee that he'd play every game anyway. JWP will be a class player, and already is, so I'd rather have him on the fringes of our squad than on the fringes of theirs. If we lose Morgan or Cork, god forbid, I'd worry about putting Chaplow in there *as 4th choice, and would feel a lot more confident with JWP brought in - he was class at the start of the season, especially in the United game where he caught my eye with a mature display. Edited 4 February, 2013 by SNSUN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather Posted 4 February, 2013 Share Posted 4 February, 2013 If he does go on loan he HAS to play and their is more than a good chance if he goes to a championship club he'll be on the bench most of the time. I would keep as we need him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 4 February, 2013 Share Posted 4 February, 2013 Did well on Saturday, and isn't the point of the Don's appointment of MoPo that the youngsters will be brought through ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints-cris Posted 4 February, 2013 Share Posted 4 February, 2013 Don't see the point right now, he's learning from Premiership players. He's 4th choice, think it's better off he stays here for the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 4 February, 2013 Share Posted 4 February, 2013 With Puncheon & Ramirez having wobbles at the moment (And Ramirez's regular Dead Leg issues) We are more likely to see Davis getting a game with AL back in the squad As Clyne took a knock Saturday and we put Cork to Rb we are left with WHAT exactly as cover in midfield? No way on this planet he should go out on loan (Unless weve brought Hammond back from Brighton) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 4 February, 2013 Share Posted 4 February, 2013 (And Ramirez's regular Dead Leg issues) Has he had more trouble with a dead leg other than his lengthy period out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 4 February, 2013 Share Posted 4 February, 2013 According to the Mirror, JWP is going on loan to Coventry to get experience. http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/southampton-transfer-news-james-ward-prowse-1573189 Would this be a good move or is he better off being here as he is currently on the fringes again? League 1 ?? Needs to be playing at a higher level than that, he'll get massacred. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazlo78 Posted 4 February, 2013 Share Posted 4 February, 2013 With Puncheon & Ramirez having wobbles at the moment (And Ramirez's regular Dead Leg issues) We are more likely to see Davis getting a game with AL back in the squad As Clyne took a knock Saturday and we put Cork to Rb we are left with WHAT exactly as cover in midfield? No way on this planet he should go out on loan (Unless weve brought Hammond back from Brighton) I thought the same thing: he may be behind Davis, but if Davis is used in tandem with Ramírez then JWP is first in line to take over from Schnork.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainchris Posted 4 February, 2013 Share Posted 4 February, 2013 Surely he is a very important member of the squad now. I would say better off here learning and being around top class players.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 4 February, 2013 Share Posted 4 February, 2013 Has anyone confirmed this, before you all start ****ing your pants. I think this boy has a special talent, and will be a top top player, hopefully with Saints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 4 February, 2013 Share Posted 4 February, 2013 I thought the same thing: he may be behind Davis, but if Davis is used in tandem with Ramírez then JWP is first in line to take over from Schnork.... I approve of this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 4 February, 2013 Share Posted 4 February, 2013 If he does go on loan he HAS to play and their is more than a good chance if he goes to a championship club he'll be on the bench most of the time. I would keep as we need him. Spot on. We have been burnt by loans this season with sending out players to get experience who have not played - eg Aaron Martin. The Reeves loan probably shows that we'd rather send thm down an extra division to guarentee game time. It also shows we are not arsed whether SDR plays or not! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 4 February, 2013 Share Posted 4 February, 2013 he's hardly played for several months. Ten minutes at the end of the odd game isn't going to help him a great deal. He needs games. A month out on loan will do him good. What kind of call back do you get on month long loans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norwaysaint Posted 4 February, 2013 Share Posted 4 February, 2013 I'm bound to be wrong with somebody pulling out a list of stats proving so, but sending promising players out on loan doesn't often seem to work out well for us does it? Loads of them go out and never make it afterwards and end up hardly playing while on loan. Rare successes I can think of are Kenwyne Jones and Lallana. Who else came good after being on loan? Oh, forgot Puncheon, but for him it wasn't really about gaining experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 4 February, 2013 Share Posted 4 February, 2013 Normally, " loaning out players " has been a tactic to get a player match-fit (if they are seldom getting a bench place) or a ploy to get another club " interested enough to buy them ". However, with up-and -coming talents (like JWP) thye need match-practice. He's very promising, though still quite young and needs to up his game time - if he's to be a serious challenger along with Lallana, Steve Davis, Ramirez, Puncheon, Cork and Schneiderlin.....(and there's still Guly, too). I, for one, didn't expect him to hold his place and be playing all season. Newcomers seldom do..but his potential is obvious to everyone. A few matches , at a " not-so-difficult " level will help him develop far more than all the U21 games can ever do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 4 February, 2013 Share Posted 4 February, 2013 http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/coventry-city-fc/coventry-city-fc-news/2013/02/04/92746-32742292/? Coventry City manager Mark Robins would neither confirm or deny reports linking him the Sky Blues with young Southampton midfielder James Ward-Prowse. According to The Mirror, the 18-year-old could be farmed out to the Ricoh Arena for experience. Ward-Prowse was a regular in the Saints line up at the start of the season but has played only one Premier League game since December. At today's press conference, Robins said: "There was little doing on that particular issue." The Sky Blues boss did admit he rates Ward-Prowse as a good player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 4 February, 2013 Share Posted 4 February, 2013 Nigel made a big deal of the fact that Lallana never went out on loan, stayed here and won a place. Same with JWP methinks. Oh wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
labibs Posted 4 February, 2013 Share Posted 4 February, 2013 If he went on loan for a month now, he would miss games against Man City, Newcastle and QPR. Games that barring injury he is very unlikely to get more than a 10 minute run out in any of them. Coventry have 5 games in that period and he could conceivably get a full 90 minutes in all of them, were he to go on loan there. If he's not going to start, I would much rather he went there and played than sat on out bench. We could always recall him and he would arguably be of more use to us with some match fitness under his belt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 4 February, 2013 Share Posted 4 February, 2013 If he went on loan for a month now, he would miss games against Man City, Newcastle and QPR. Games that barring injury he is very unlikely to get more than a 10 minute run out in any of them. Coventry have 5 games in that period and he could conceivably get a full 90 minutes in all of them, were he to go on loan there. If he's not going to start, I would much rather he went there and played than sat on out bench. We could always recall him and he would arguably be of more use to us with some match fitness under his belt. Very good point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studentsaint Posted 4 February, 2013 Share Posted 4 February, 2013 Lazy journalism I think. See he passed it to j rod for the second goal, hasn't played much recently, so he's goig on loan. Don't think squad is big enough to loan players out. Everyone has a role to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefizzy14 Posted 4 February, 2013 Share Posted 4 February, 2013 No way, this lad is going to be class Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 4 February, 2013 Share Posted 4 February, 2013 Would be good to give him more first team experience, and then watch him in the first team next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedWillie Posted 4 February, 2013 Share Posted 4 February, 2013 unless we are getting a loan in perhaps?.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 4 February, 2013 Share Posted 4 February, 2013 unless we are getting a loan in perhaps?.... We can't. We have what we have now for the rest of the season. If we keep loaning out players we'll just weaken ourselves even more, which Is why I don't think this will happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 4 February, 2013 Share Posted 4 February, 2013 So Dave, who replaces him on the bench? I assume.. Chaplow.... or Lee....or Mayuka...or Guly (when fit). (for the record JWP has been on as sub. in only 2 of his last 8 bench selection, and then not as first change ...I hardly think letting him play for a month, or so would greatly upset our formation - would it ?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazlo78 Posted 4 February, 2013 Share Posted 4 February, 2013 I approve of this Well spotted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrunkenSaint Posted 5 February, 2013 Share Posted 5 February, 2013 i'd play him in a midfield 3, jwp cork and morgan with lallana and punch on the wings, under MP we seem to be playing very well and have more goal threat when we have 3 CM playing in the 2nd half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 5 February, 2013 Share Posted 5 February, 2013 i'd play him in a midfield 3, jwp cork and morgan with lallana and punch on the wings, under MP we seem to be playing very well and have more goal threat when we have 3 CM playing in the 2nd half. Harsh on Davis who has been impressive last few games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicestersaint Posted 5 February, 2013 Share Posted 5 February, 2013 Big mistake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 5 February, 2013 Share Posted 5 February, 2013 @SouthamptonFC: James Ward-Prowse starts for England Under-19s in tonight's friendly against Denmark, while Calum Chambers is on the bench. #saintsfc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golac's Cunning Stunts Posted 5 February, 2013 Share Posted 5 February, 2013 I thought we were supposed to be bringing the youth through and the sacking of Adkins was partly due to his reluctance to do this. Seems strange that the argie would now see fit to let him out on loan to a L1 side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 5 February, 2013 Share Posted 5 February, 2013 I thought we were supposed to be bringing the youth through and the sacking of Adkins was partly due to his reluctance to do this. Seems strange that the argie would now see fit to let him out on loan to a L1 side. where did you get this from...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golac's Cunning Stunts Posted 5 February, 2013 Share Posted 5 February, 2013 where did you get this from...? ha ha you make me laugh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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