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Sat 9th Feb:

Tottenham v Newcastle 12:45

Chelsea v Wigan 15:00

Norwich v Fulham 15:00

Stoke v Reading 15:00

Swansea v QPR 15:00

Southampton v Man City 17:30

Sun 10th Feb:

Aston Villa v West Ham 13:30

Sat 23rd Feb:

Arsenal v Aston Villa 15:00

Norwich v Everton 15:00

QPR v Man Utd 15:00

Reading v Wigan 15:00

Sun 24th Feb

Newcastle v Southampton 13:30

Sat 2nd March:

Everton v Reading 15:00

Man Utd v Norwich 15:00

Southampton v QPR 15:00

Swansea v Newcastle 15:00

Wigan v Liverpool 17:30

Mon 4th March:

Aston Villa v Man City 20:00

Sat 9th March:

Man City v Wigan 15:00

Newcastle v Stoke 15:00

Norwich v Southampton 15:00

QPR v Sunderland 15:00

Reading v Aston Villa 15:00

Sat 16th March:

Aston Villa v QPR 15:00

Southampton v Liverpool 15:00

Man Utd v Reading 17:30

Sun 17th March:

Sunderland v Norwich 13:30

Wigan v Newcastle 16:00

 

The reason I have posted this is because I was so gutted about the late equaliser today and knowing the next two games we have coming up could quite easily result in zero points, I thought I'd look at the next few games for our rivals and try to put some perspective on things. Looking through the next 5 fixtures it has calmed me somewhat, the majority of our rivals have hard games and/or are playing each other, plus I feel QPR (H), Norwich (A) are winnable games, and we could pick up a point or two in the other three games.

 

 

Thoughts?

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Just posted similar on another thread. QPR and Norwich are must wins - as today really was. I can see us beating QPR, but Norwich at Carrow Road could be tough, and I don't see any points from the other three games. Still as long as there are three crudder teams below us at the end of the season, I'll be happy, but with Reading winning games, Newcastle will be in no danger, QPR showing stronger performances, and even Villa and Wigan showing fight today, we must be careful.

 

Survival is still in our hands though, so we should really ignore the other fixtures for now. Que Sera Sera and all that jazz.

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There are some very winnable matches in there for us. We just have to go into the man city match in the same frame of mind as at Old Trafford in the 2nd half and keep pressing the ball. Hopefully teams around us will have balls'd up so that our evening fixture is somewhat of a free hit.

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City at home is a "must get at least a point!"

 

Weird feeling but they have cack all at the back and we have everything going forward so should get something, after that should get a few 3 points to keep us up.

 

And with the way most teams are playing there is no reason we shouldn't. Should have got a point at Old Trafford.

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Vaguely seem to recall seeing some table where (I think) Wigan still had to play everyone around them at home (obviously they've just played us), can anyone confirm this?

 

Fwiw I can't see Newcastle being remotely involved, they lost a pile of players for months earlier and have now signed 6 more to reduce their worries if the top 6 starters from last season (minus Ba) can't get on the pitch often enough.

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Just finished the Beeb predictor, which is obviously biased towards Saints but I still tried to be fair. If we pick up points in the games we should be picking up points in, then we finish 12th on 41 points, just behind West Brom on 42.

 

From us down, it reads:

 

13th Norwich

14th Sunderland

15th West Ham

16th Fulham

17th Villa

18th Wigan

19th Reading

20th QPR

 

Wigan get 28 points, Villa 29.

 

Of course it's all nonsense, as results differ and change, and I'm sure we'll still drop points we're expected to pick up, but it goes to show that the season of survival (and doing very well too) is still in our own hands, ignoring what everyone else does. I'd kill for 12th, I'd settle for 17th. Incidentally United win the title by a clear 11 points! :-D

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That also amused me. Go back and check if you put QPR and Reading down for 13 successive defeats or something. Villa are the only ones looking like they'll go under 30 points to me and even they perform about once every 2 months.

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Just finished the Beeb predictor, which is obviously biased towards Saints but I still tried to be fair. If we pick up points in the games we should be picking up points in, then we finish 12th on 41 points, just behind West Brom on 42.

 

From us down, it reads:

 

13th Norwich

14th Sunderland

15th West Ham

16th Fulham

17th Villa

18th Wigan

19th Reading

20th QPR

 

Wigan get 28 points, Villa 29.

 

Of course it's all nonsense, as results differ and change, and I'm sure we'll still drop points we're expected to pick up, but it goes to show that the season of survival (and doing very well too) is still in our own hands, ignoring what everyone else does. I'd kill for 12th, I'd settle for 17th. Incidentally United win the title by a clear 11 points! :-D

 

The only thing right about this is your line about it all being nonsense. It certainly is that.

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Villa seem even worse at letting leads slip then we are. Dropped two points at Swansea in injury time, were 2-0 up and cruising v WBA and drew, were 3-1 up Everton with 2 minutes to go.

 

I don't think it will be as few as 29 points to stay up, but it's not likely to be as many as 38. Here's why:

 

Wigan - currently averaging 0.84 points per game - will end up on 32 points if this continues. Would need to average 1.31 points over their last 13 games to get to 38.

Villa - same as Wigan

QPR - currently averaging 0.68 per game - will end up on 26 points if this continues. Would need to average 1.61 points from hereon to get to 38.

 

Additionally, Reading are - over the season - on target for 35 points on their overall points per game performance.

 

An extra slight bonus is that we seem near certain to be ahead of Villa on goal difference (currently 15 ahead), and very probably also ahead of Wigan (currently 7 ahead), which is basically worth another half point to Saints.

 

My conclusion is that we'd be very unlucky to be relegated with 33 or 34 points. 35 or 36 will almost certainly do it. 40 points and we'll be clear by a tidy mile.

 

W 3 D 3 L 7 should be enough.

 

W 4 D 2 L 7 will surely be enough

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Fulham will be one of the key teams to the relegation league, I think they have to play virtually the entire bottom group apart from us. So for Fulham to escape being drawn into the bottom battle they have to beat other teams in the mini-league. If other teams want to get out of it they'll have to beat Fulham. I can see us above Fulham by mid-March.

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W 4 D 2 L 7 will surely be enough

 

Yep, and out of our remaining fixtures, there are at least 4 fixtures you could pick a Saints win from.

 

QPR, West Ham and West Brom would be 3 fixtures I'd definitely look at thinking we must win. Then there is Stoke on the final day of the season, who should be on the summer holidays by the day that game comes.

 

I think we can pick up points at places like Norwich and Sunderland. And I think we will get at least 1 win against a big team before the season is out.

 

If we can continue to repeat the level of performances we have seen in the past 3 games, then surely we are going to start converting draws into wins.

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City at home is a "must get at least a point!"

 

Weird feeling but they have cack all at the back and we have everything going forward so should get something, after that should get a few 3 points to keep us up.

 

How long until the Toure brothers are back in town? How long is Vince Kompany out?

If they are struggling at the back, our marauding game may catch them out. (hopefully|)

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