Tomobz Posted 6 February, 2013 Share Posted 6 February, 2013 Some ex legends are part of the club, it's not a blanket policy by NC. This clearly only extends to a particular circle of Ex Saints and there is a reason for that. Whether it's valid or not is another discussion but would you say that every former player with legendary status should have a part in the club, regardless of their behaviour and very public thoughts on the current chairman? But isn't that the point? Matt has only started criticising Cortese since he started treating him with dis respect, had that not happened I am sure Matt wouldn't have any issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 6 February, 2013 Share Posted 6 February, 2013 Does anyone know why it's taken so long for the Benali vs Cortese case to reach court? If its as clear cut a dispute as MLT infers then surely it would have been done and dusted by now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 6 February, 2013 Share Posted 6 February, 2013 big yawn to the whole lot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 6 February, 2013 Share Posted 6 February, 2013 Why does he need to "assume a low profile"? Thought he just wanted a nice retirement on the golf course and wasn't interested in the media? What do you or Matt think NC is trying to hide and how would this be come out at the meeting? Would matt use his great interrogating skills and uncover that NC was really evil? If I was NC my first question at the meeting would be "what is your problem and how can we resolve it?" This would probably stump Matt as the only problem so far seems to be over his mate frannie and Matt not getting as many free tickets for his kids mate as he wanted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 6 February, 2013 Share Posted 6 February, 2013 Does anyone know why it's taken so long for the Benali vs Cortese case to reach court? If its as clear cut a dispute as MLT infers then surely it would have been done and dusted by now? MLT is implying. It is you that is inferring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 6 February, 2013 Share Posted 6 February, 2013 Le Tissier has made one attempt at getting involved in running the club - when it was at it's very lowest point and getting desperate for help. Hs's never tried to get involved before or after. He's never made out he was abusiness expert. And he's admitted that the Pinnacle bid probably wasn't the best. So where do you get the idea he has this huge grudge about not being chairman? I think he's more than happy spending his days on the golf course. It was probably a utopian dream. Matty as the fans favourite chairman, only really needed to front up as the chairman but with those with a bit more business nouse, running the club in the background so plenty of time for a few rounds golf a week. Lawrie and Flash Gordon on 275K retainers PA for corporate entertainment with Mike Osman pitch side at half time and Franny with a nice little ambassador role on the side. Would have been perfect for them all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 6 February, 2013 Share Posted 6 February, 2013 It was Matty that kept bringing Benali into it, neither Frannie or NC had mentioned each other at all before this. The club merely clarified their position on the court case. Personally I hope Frannie wins as from the here say I've heard it sounds like he has a decent case, but that's got nothing to do with it, Matty kept bringing Frannie into it so the club simply said it was a legal matter and won't be commenting further. Come on mate, even you must see Matty's completely ballsed this one up? Look at the way the club's release was worded re. Benali? And no-one questions why he has to sue the club to get his money? Rather than NC directly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 6 February, 2013 Share Posted 6 February, 2013 But isn't that the point? Matt has only started criticising Cortese since he started treating him with dis respect, had that not happened I am sure Matt wouldn't have any issue. a lot seems to have been as a result of Benali's letting agreement which started right as the start of the takeover so it seems to have been a personal issue which has escalated from there. I doubt NC was sat in his office one day and thought "you know what......I might start treating MLT with disrespect for a laugh" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 6 February, 2013 Share Posted 6 February, 2013 It was probably a utopian dream. Matty as the fans favourite chairman, only really needed to front up as the chairman but with those with a bit more business nouse, running the club in the background so plenty of time for a few rounds golf a week. Lawrie and Flash Gordon on 275K retainers PA for corporate entertainment with Mike Osman pitch side at half time and Franny with a nice little ambassador role on the side. Would have been perfect for them all. Exactly! The whole Micky Flanagan takeover scenario was a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_Uwe Posted 6 February, 2013 Share Posted 6 February, 2013 big yawn to the whole lot Quite right. At the end of the day none of this has anything to do with what is going on on the pitch, it's just yet another sideshow in a long list of many, many off-field issues over the past few years. I just don't see how it will ever be resolved frankly now, especially with the ongoing court case. And that is a great shame for all involved. My only hope is that all of this rubbish will dominate the airwaves and leave MP the time to concentrate on getting the team safe this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 6 February, 2013 Share Posted 6 February, 2013 The best he'll ever manage is honorary president, and I doubt very much he'll get that now. He could when Cortese has gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 6 February, 2013 Share Posted 6 February, 2013 Scum Army! Anyone ordered a Smokey B yet for the City game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 6 February, 2013 Share Posted 6 February, 2013 Don't understand why Benali would be suing SFC if its a personal issue between Franny and NC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 6 February, 2013 Share Posted 6 February, 2013 Don't understand why Benali would be suing SFC if its a personal issue between Franny and NC. For loss of Ambassadorial fees as stated in the statement. One could only assume the reason for the loss of these fees? Maybe he set of a Smoke Bomb in NC's face and chanted "Scum Army" at him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 6 February, 2013 Share Posted 6 February, 2013 see stuey on the uglies has gone into a tirade of claiming NC has been using SFC money to buy himself a boat off sunseeker only for a poster to pop and say he works for sunseeker and that is an outright lie... stuey is back tracking quicker than an italian tank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 6 February, 2013 Share Posted 6 February, 2013 MLT is implying. It is you that is inferring. Fair cop. Same question then, but swap "infer" with "imply"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 6 February, 2013 Share Posted 6 February, 2013 Don't understand why Benali would be suing SFC if its a personal issue between Franny and NC. Because NC doesn't rent his own house, the club rents it for him. Same as all his family's expenses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 6 February, 2013 Share Posted 6 February, 2013 Eurgh this is so depressing. One of the greatest players in this clubs history is dragging his own reputation through the mud. I am generally supportive of NC, and think it is hard to argue with his running of the club. It's clear he has a vision of what he wants to do with the club, and he will stop at no ends to make this happen. He is here to get the job done, not to make friends. Fair play, I may not always agree with his actions, or the way he goes about things, but it's pretty hard to argue with the guys results. Considering this, it's hard to believe that this whole issue is regarding the club. The club is in a far better way than it has been for a very long time. Therefore, we can really only assume it is a personal matter. This quote from the echo article perhaps proves this: “I would like to ask him some questions about what he said in his interview, and about what he’s done to some of my friends. I would like him to look me in the eye and give me some reasons why he’s done the stuff he’s done.” Infact, this quite clearly shows it is a personal issue. If this meeting was arranged, and it was put in place that it would be between them, and not getting the media involved you really have to ask, why would MLT go public if he A) really had the best interests of the club at heart & B) actually wanted the meeting at all. The meeting clearly isn't about the club, and if it was, what right to input does Matt have anyway? He was a fine footballer, but that does not qualify him to be a CEO or Chairman of a Club, especially considering his previous attempts at trying to run companies. Matt clearly just wants to sit on the outside taking snipes. I think really, he knew that he had nothing to gain from this meeting. So hoped forcing it to be cancelled by breaking privacy agreements would make Cortese look bad, as he isn't willing to air his dirty laundry in public with MLT. It's just so schoolground, if I was Cortese I too would have told MLT to do one. The most frustrating thing is, no-one actually really cares. I mean, on a national scale, what kind of Manchester United fan actually gives a flying **** about our current chairman (most probably don't actually know who Cortese is) and MLT having a bickering match? I really can't imagine there is any. How exactly is Matty taking pop shots at the chairman meant to benefit the club, that he is oh so keen to help? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 6 February, 2013 Share Posted 6 February, 2013 Thought he just wanted a nice retirement on the golf course and wasn't interested in the media? What do you or Matt think NC is trying to hide and how would this be come out at the meeting? Would matt use his great interrogating skills and uncover that NC was really evil? If I was NC my first question at the meeting would be "what is your problem and how can we resolve it?" This would probably stump Matt as the only problem so far seems to be over his mate frannie and Matt not getting as many free tickets for his kids mate as he wanted. Think you'll find Le Tiss never wanted free tickets, but feel free to make up whatever you want to defend your hero NC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 6 February, 2013 Share Posted 6 February, 2013 Don't understand why Benali would be suing SFC if its a personal issue between Franny and NC. Possible that SFC were the tenants and not Cortese? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Marco Posted 6 February, 2013 Share Posted 6 February, 2013 Because NC doesn't rent his own house, the club rents it for him. Same as all his family's expenses. Pretty sure that isn't true. Doubt very much a guy who has said everyone needs to pay their own way i.e tickets will then use the clubs funds to pay things for himself i.e houses. Cortese is a multi-millionaire don't forget. There are two court case reasons mentioned the property and unpaid Ambassador fees. One would be against the club (the fees) and the other would be personal (renting property) Either way it does not take nearly 4 years to take someone to court over property damage. A clown (not literally) crashed into a wall outside my neighbours house and totalled it. The guy didn't pay it and told a load of ******** to the police about what happened (he was 17) so they took him to court. Case lasted about 1hr and he had to pay for the repair and court costs. It isn't rocket science. It appears as though Benali is threatening to do it, not actually doing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 6 February, 2013 Share Posted 6 February, 2013 Think you'll find Le Tiss never wanted free tickets, but feel free to make up whatever you want to defend your hero NC. zzzzzz good debating there sour mash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 6 February, 2013 Share Posted 6 February, 2013 Pretty sure that isn't true. Doubt very much a guy who has said everyone needs to pay their own way i.e tickets will then use the clubs funds to pay things for himself i.e houses. Cortese is a multi-millionaire don't forget. There are two court case reasons mentioned the property and unpaid Ambassador fees. One would be against the club (the fees) and the other would be personal (renting property) Either way it does not take nearly 4 years to take someone to court over property damage. A clown (not literally) crashed into a wall outside my neighbours house and totalled it. The guy didn't pay it and told a load of ******** to the police about what happened (he was 17) so they took him to court. Case lasted about 1hr and he had to pay for the repair and court costs. It isn't rocket science. It appears as though Benali is threatening to do it, not actually doing it. Seems like you haven't read the statement from the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 6 February, 2013 Share Posted 6 February, 2013 see stuey on the uglies has gone into a tirade of claiming NC has been using SFC money to buy himself a boat off sunseeker only for a poster to pop and say he works for sunseeker and that is an outright lie... stuey is back tracking quicker than an italian tank No-one should be taking that prat seriously anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 6 February, 2013 Share Posted 6 February, 2013 No-one should be taking that prat seriously anyway. he also kicked off saying it was a disgrace that NC gets a chauffer to pick him up from home and drop him back (from sms) on matchdays sounds like a union leader at the mo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Marco Posted 6 February, 2013 Share Posted 6 February, 2013 Seems like you haven't read the statement from the club. I have read it. The key word is "dispute" meaning Noun A disagreement, argument, or debate Like I said it sounds as Benali is threatening to go to court but not actually going through with it. Maybe this threatening is what he was banned for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 6 February, 2013 Share Posted 6 February, 2013 I have read it. The key word is "dispute" meaning Noun A disagreement, argument, or debate Like I said it sounds as Benali is threatening to go to court but not actually going through with it. Maybe this threatening is what he was banned for? Oh whatever. You'll say whatever you like to defend your hero NC even insult the best moustachioed left back we have ever had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 6 February, 2013 Share Posted 6 February, 2013 he also kicked off saying it was a disgrace that NC gets a chauffer to pick him up from home and drop him back (from sms) on matchdays sounds like a union leader at the mo Knob, if I had the money I'd have a private chauffer on call no question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puddings and Monkeys Posted 6 February, 2013 Share Posted 6 February, 2013 Who really gives a ****? It means nothing in terms of the club's development and future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Marco Posted 6 February, 2013 Share Posted 6 February, 2013 Oh whatever. You'll say whatever you like to defend your hero NC even insult the best moustachioed left back we have ever had. NC is a knob = fact Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 6 February, 2013 Share Posted 6 February, 2013 he also kicked off saying it was a disgrace that NC gets a chauffer to pick him up from home and drop him back (from sms) on matchdays sounds like a union leader at the mo What's this you speak of friend? Sounds amusing, please share. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 6 February, 2013 Share Posted 6 February, 2013 I have read it. The key word is "dispute" meaning Noun A disagreement, argument, or debate Like I said it sounds as Benali is threatening to go to court but not actually going through with it. Maybe this threatening is what he was banned for? You haven't read the statement as it says "the same person is currently suing Southampton Football Club in relation to a lease dispute...". Glad to be of help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 6 February, 2013 Share Posted 6 February, 2013 Who really gives a ****? It means nothing in terms of the club's development and future. ...which is exactly why Cortese has given MLT the finger. He would be more than happy for him to be involved with the club, but for some reason Le Tiss just doesn't want to go back on everything he's ever said about Cortese. Funny old world isn't it, when Jason Puncheon turns out to be a bigger man than Matthew Le Tissier... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Saint Posted 6 February, 2013 Share Posted 6 February, 2013 Yes both parties aren't exactly acting like grown ups here but I cant believe some of the negative comments on here against MLT, it beggars belief Years from now no one will remember Cortese, he will hopefully be a very small footnote in our clubs history. But MLT has given us some of our greatest ever moments and memories as Saints fans and for what he did for the club should always deserve our respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 6 February, 2013 Share Posted 6 February, 2013 No-one should be taking that prat seriously anyway. he's a strange one that Stu, all his hatred started when there wasn't a payment plan for season tickets in 2010. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 6 February, 2013 Share Posted 6 February, 2013 What's this you speak of friend? Sounds amusing, please share. He said that Clotese has a chauffeur driven Bentley that picks him up outside SMS on match days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 6 February, 2013 Share Posted 6 February, 2013 Funny old world isn't it, when Jason Puncheon turns out to be a bigger man than Matthew Le Tissier... Probably the most ridiculous thing ever written on these forums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 6 February, 2013 Share Posted 6 February, 2013 NC is a knob = fact I think so as well but shhhh don't tell sour mash as it spoils his argument. The way he sees it you have to love one or the other and cause Matty scored loads of goals for us and is in general a friendly all right guy, he can do no wrong ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 6 February, 2013 Share Posted 6 February, 2013 Yes both parties aren't exactly acting like grown ups here but I cant believe some of the negative comments on here against MLT, it beggars belief Years from now no one will remember Cortese, he will hopefully be a very small footnote in our clubs history. But MLT has given us some of our greatest ever moments and memories as Saints fans and for what he did for the club should always deserve our respect. Oh dear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 6 February, 2013 Share Posted 6 February, 2013 Yes both parties aren't exactly acting like grown ups here but I cant believe some of the negative comments on here against MLT, it beggars belief Years from now no one will remember Cortese, he will hopefully be a very small footnote in our clubs history. But MLT has given us some of our greatest ever moments and memories as Saints fans and for what he did for the club should always deserve our respect. why do you hope that..if we go on and consolidate in the league and achieve half the stuff he wants, then he will surely NOT be a small footnote in our history.... MLT is a legend and no one will better him I doubt...but why do you wish for someone else to bugger off and be nothing to us..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Marco Posted 6 February, 2013 Share Posted 6 February, 2013 You haven't read the statement as it says "the same person is currently suing Southampton Football Club in relation to a lease dispute...". Glad to be of help. Ok in that regards your right. See not ashamed to say when I am wrong. But the point remains the same regardless of who is suing who. Until it happens it is just threats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 6 February, 2013 Share Posted 6 February, 2013 Yes both parties aren't exactly acting like grown ups here but I cant believe some of the negative comments on here against MLT, it beggars belief Years from now no one will remember Cortese, he will hopefully be a very small footnote in our clubs history. But MLT has given us some of our greatest ever moments and memories as Saints fans and for what he did for the club should always deserve our respect. Agreed. The words of a fan who deserves to have a club that is successful in the right way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 6 February, 2013 Share Posted 6 February, 2013 Probably the most ridiculous thing ever written on these forums. On the evidence so far? Jason Puncheon slated Cortese in a public domain, had a meeting in private and has sorted his issues out. Matt Le Tissier slated Cortese in a public domain, had the opportunity to have a meeting in private and sort the issues out - but chose to carry on with the digs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 6 February, 2013 Share Posted 6 February, 2013 Ok in that regards your right. See not ashamed to say when I am wrong. But the point remains the same regardless of who is suing who. Until it happens it is just threats. Does the word "currently" not exist in your universe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 6 February, 2013 Share Posted 6 February, 2013 Yes both parties aren't exactly acting like grown ups here but I cant believe some of the negative comments on here against MLT, it beggars belief Years from now no one will remember Cortese, he will hopefully be a very small footnote in our clubs history. But MLT has given us some of our greatest ever moments and memories as Saints fans and for what he did for the club should always deserve our respect. The man responsible for brokering a deal with a multi-billionaire, saving us from near liquidation and then overseeing a great cup run & day out at Wembley (granted it was the paint pot) and two successive promotions. I'm sure no-one will remember him. I'm not denigrating MLT's achievement one iota, the man is a bona fide legend, and rightly so. But, like it or not, he is no longer involved in the club. If he cares so much about the club he will let those running it get on with doing so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 6 February, 2013 Share Posted 6 February, 2013 Ok in that regards your right. See not ashamed to say when I am wrong. But the point remains the same regardless of who is suing who. Until it happens it is just threats. It's not a threat. He is suing SFC. He is currently suing them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 6 February, 2013 Share Posted 6 February, 2013 He said that Clotese has a chauffeur driven Bentley that picks him up outside SMS on match days. Apologies, I wasn't clear. I meant all this Romsey on the uglies. I assumed this was StuRomsey? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 6 February, 2013 Share Posted 6 February, 2013 On the evidence so far? Jason Puncheon slated Cortese in a public domain, had a meeting in private and has sorted his issues out. Matt Le Tissier slated Cortese in a public domain, had the opportunity to have a meeting in private and sort the issues out - but chose to carry on with the digs. Completely different situations. I doubt Puncheon had a choice for the sake of his career, nothing to do with being a "bigger man". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 6 February, 2013 Share Posted 6 February, 2013 Apologies, I wasn't clear. I meant all this Romsey on the uglies. I assumed this was StuRomsey? Yes. Goes by the name of Boris on there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 6 February, 2013 Share Posted 6 February, 2013 Completely different situations. I doubt Puncheon had a choice for the sake of his career, nothing to do with being a "bigger man". As he pointed out, he could just as well have carried on training with the kids and picking up his pay check. Which would have harmed the club in keeping a disruptive influence around, and spending probably a fair amount on a player offering nothing to the club. These players always find other clubs anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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