Cortese and Le Tissier arrange meeting

[Tokyo-Saint]

Bloody hell Charlie - I find myself agreeing with you more and more each day. Whatever next?

[Saint Charlie]

Bloody hell Charlie - I find myself agreeing with you more and more each day. Whatever next?

 

To be fair its a fairly easy argument to agree with because there is a lot of logic in it.

[Webby]

How can you even find fault in that comment?

 

Can't you? He's saying 'I must learn not to be so open in a fans Q&A session', which is to say 'it's a Q&A, what am I supposed to do, not say anything?'.

[Frank's cousin]

To be fair its a fairly easy argument to agree with because there is a lot of logic in it.

 

I would agree, but please request that you change your rather disturbing avatar.

[Tokyo-Saint]

Ha! you haven't been reading the thread then Chuck, plenty disagree about it. Matt can do and say what he likes. He was a legend on the pitch, therefore he must be a genius off it with impeccable morals and judgement.

[sandwichsaint]

I hate Twitter and Facebook. It turns perfectly intelligent respectable people into embarassing,twisted, obsessed fish-wives.

 

... and for everything else, there's SaintsWeb.

[Saint Charlie]

Ha! you haven't been reading the thread then Chuck, plenty disagree about it. Matt can do and say what he likes. He was a legend on the pitch, therefore he must be a genius off it with impeccable morals and judgement.

 

He is just one example and happens to be our greatest ever player.

 

There are plenty of ex player and even fans that don't like the restricted access they now have. They should probably just enjoy successive promotions and having a good young team and some ambitious leadership....but they can't really let it go and resent the new regime for it.

 

MLT has acted poorly, but if he is doing a Q & A it was pretty obvious those questions would crop up. He should have been prepared and dignified.

[Webby]

What did he say at this Q&A then?

[Sour Mash]

Can't you? He's saying 'I must learn not to be so open in a fans Q&A session', which is to say 'it's a Q&A, what am I supposed to do, not say anything?'.

No, he's saying 'I must learn not to be so open in a fans Q&A session'. It isn't complicated is it.

[Webby]

No, he's saying 'I must learn not to be so open in a fans Q&A session'. It isn't complicated is it.

Well, then the implication is that he's fouled up for being 'open' when it's not about him being open, its about him not talking about what he, apparently, agreed not to talk about. All he had to say was 'sorry, I can't discuss that at the moment'.

[Sour Mash]

Well, then the implication is that he's fouled up for being 'open' when it's not about him being open, its about him not talking about what he, apparently, agreed not to talk about. All he had to say was 'sorry, I can't discuss that at the moment'.

Ok...............

[Saint_clark]

So what did he do which was truly outstanding that got us to the PL that anyone else with all the financial resources of a large club with a good infrastructure and fanbase could not have

 

Appointed Nigel Adkins when we all thought he was sh*t and Scunny fans were the only people who rated him.

[NickG]

Wasnt the Q and A advertised on here as your chance to hear from horses mouth mlt's gripes?

 

Doh!

[Saint Charlie]

Wasnt the Q and A advertised on here as your chance to hear from horses mouth mlt's gripes?

 

Doh!

 

Advertised as this:

 

now have the chance to put their money where their mouths are. On Monday February 4th at Waterstones in Southampton High St, Matt Le Tissier has agreed to do a no holds barred Q and A session. Prior to this I shall (wait for it...roll of drums) do a shortish presentation on "Suited and Booted" using team line ups on a screen to talk about the club's pre-war history with a little surprise at the end. My talk begins at 6:30pm and Matt will be on about 7 to 7.15 I guess.

 

So if you think he should stop criticising goings on at SMS why not come along and tell him in person. If you want to know why as a player he took bets on throw ins etc, rather than slag him down on an internet forum challenge him face to face at Watersones. He doesn't bite and hearing things from the horses mouth so to speak might just lay a few ghosts to rest that have appeared on the MLT v NC thread.

Tickets incidentally are £3 and can be obtained direct from Waterstones. Hope to see a few of you there.

 

Probably ill advised and now has caused more damage than done good. I assume the Echo were there to capture all the comments too which didnt help.

 

Shame really but still MLT should have handled the inevitable questions with more dignity and class, in which case there would be no problem and this evening would have passed on successfully.

[alpine_saint]

Advertised as this:

 

 

 

Probably ill advised and now has caused more damage than done good. I assume the Echo were there to capture all the comments too which didnt help.

 

Shame really but still MLT should have handled the inevitable questions with more dignity and class, in which case there would be no problem and this evening would have passed on successfully.

 

In fairness to FF, the Waterstones evening was set-up some time ago, probably before the "clear the air" meeting proposal was made.

 

MLT should have shown the necessary mental agility to dead-bat any questions related to this. He only had to say something like its not possible to commment on the issue at that time.

[Dig Dig]

In fairness to FF, the Waterstones evening was set-up some time ago, probably before the "clear the air" meeting proposal was made.

 

MLT should have shown the necessary mental agility to dead-bat any questions related to this. He only had to say something like its not possible to commment on the issue at that time.

 

Bit of a let down for the paying fans who were previously encouraged to ask such questions though.

[Webby]

Does Matt not have an agent or any advisors? If he hasn't, he should get one, and if he has, he should replace them cos, sadly, he's making some poor decisions.

[sandwichsaint]

Appointed Nigel Adkins when we all thought he was sh*t and Scunny fans were the only people who rated him.

 

Speak for yourself. There were a few that knew who he was and who could see what potentially a good fit he was for us. I remember chucking my toys when NC started playing hard ball with Scunny over compo and it looked like it might all fall through.

 

I never really wanted anyone else, Mowbray was my second choice at the time (not sure how that would have worked out?) and I would also have taken either one of those two SaintsWeb anti-christs Holloway or Warnock (reckon either of those two would have taken us through two leagues with the set-up we had).

 

Clearly NA was an inspired appointment from NC, it's worked out almost perfectly for NC, less so for NA, but let's not think 'anyone' could have taken us through two leagues in two seasons. Anybody too 'big' might have found it hard to work with NC and his vision, and his hands-on transfer policy (his selection policy?), any body too small would have been blown away by the pressure of NC; NA was just perfect and played his part in the vision to perfection.

 

Cortese, football genius, or lucky general?

[Sour Mash]

Speak for yourself. There were a few that knew who he was and who could see what potentially a good fit he was for us. I remember chucking my toys when NC started playing hard ball with Scunny over compo and it looked like it might all fall through.

 

I never really wanted anyone else, Mowbray was my second choice at the time (not sure how that would have worked out?) and I would also have taken either one of those two SaintsWeb anti-christs Holloway or Warnock (reckon either of those two would have taken us through two leagues with the set-up we had).

 

Clearly NA was an inspired appointment from NC, it's worked out almost perfectly for NC, less so for NA, but let's not think 'anyone' could have taken us through two leagues in two seasons. Anybody too 'big' might have found it hard to work with NC and his vision, and his hands-on transfer policy (his selection policy?), any body too small would have been blown away by the pressure of NC; NA was just perfect and played his part in the vision to perfection.

 

Cortese, football genius, or lucky general?

Picking a manager that had recently achieved two promotions out of League One in order to get you out of League One, can neither be classed as genius or lucky can it. Edited 7 February, 2013 by Sour Mash

[Frank's cousin]

Picking a manager that had recently achieved two promotions out of League One in order to get you out of League One, can neither be glassed as genius or lucky can it.

 

You are 100% right, not genius, not luck, just logical common sense - which is is exactly what you need in a chairman making those decisions - there are too man chairman out making the wrong ones.

[NickG]

Picking a manager that had recently achieved two promotions out of League One in order to get you out of League One, can neither be glassed as genius or lucky can it.

 

Lol, sure you posted, when his name was linked, that NA was an easy, lazy, obvious choice guaranteed to gain two promotions!

 

Not read all thread but think you have been pretty lonely thinking mlt isn't being a Pratt.

 

Don't think down playing the appointment of NA assists your anti NC line

[Sour Mash]

Lol, sure you posted, when his name was linked, that NA was an easy, lazy, obvious choice guaranteed to gain two promotions!

 

Not read all thread but think you have been pretty lonely thinking mlt isn't being a Pratt.

 

Don't think down playing the appointment of NA assists your anti NC line

"Lol" indeed.

[Greenridge]

This is funny to watch.

 

The old mantra that the club is bigger than any individual seems to be completely lost on you. Matt is having a nightmare and I can't think of another club where this happens or would be considered acceptable but you persist in believing it is. Now that is a proper 'lol'.

 

Did little Rich put you up to this?

[sandwichsaint]

Picking a manager that had recently achieved two promotions out of League One in order to get you out of League One, can neither be classed as genius or lucky can it.

 

Although he did interview Eddie Howe first and flirted with Phil Brown too before deciding on Adkins?

 

Judging on what we now know you can bet that NC also had a wandering eye abroad, particularly to Italy, and it looks likely that with the budget he was operating on he could easily have afforded a bigger name (if he could get anyone to drop to Lge One).

 

Not sure the appointment of NA was as one-dimensionally obvious as hindsight would make it appear.

[CB Fry]

Appointed Nigel Adkins when we all thought he was sh*t and Scunny fans were the only people who rated him.

 

 

 

Straight out of the Cult of Cortese myth manual.

 

It's like the club is being run by L Ron Hubbard.

[Colinjb]

Although he did interview Eddie Howe first and flirted with Phil Brown.

 

Thanks for that, I was just about to have my tea!

[Norm]

Is it fair to say Duncan that your attempts to fan the flames between MLT and NC on Monday night have now ruined any chance of reconciliation between MLT and NC? Not many on here would raise this with you but IMO you are very culpable in this escalting situation. I hope all the 3 quids and the extra book sales where worth it.

 

I was there and I can assure you that Duncan did not have his hand up Matts arse working his mouth. I said at the time (to myself) that the meeting would not take place.

Re the Pinnacle fiasco, Matt confessed to being 'taken in' by the numpties fronting the bid.

 

Dig Dig, I'm not sure what your issue with FF is but you are doing exactly the same thing that you are accusing Matt of, ie washing your personal dirty laundry in public (on here).

[KelvinsRightGlove]

Straight out of the Cult of Cortese myth manual.

 

It's like the club is being run by L Ron Hubbard.

 

This cult of Cortese thing really is a load of sh!te

[Faz]

This cult of Cortese thing really is a load of sh!te

 

Whoah there tiger, I'm a fully paid up member.

[Turkish]

Whoah there tiger, I'm a fully paid up member.

 

This cult of Cortese thing really is a load of sh!te

 

Clearly not.

[Tokyo-Saint]

Do you take in all COC has to offer Turks or do you reject it preferring to put your own thing forward?

[Turkish]

Do you take in all COC has to offer Turks or do you reject it preferring to put your own thing forward?

 

I believe in the only true chairman and his Holy Ghost, Jordan Sibley. I following the teachings a prophecies on the New Testament of the official site and believe satan Le Tissler is trying to break my faith.

[Tokyo-Saint]

If le tiss wasn't a legend player andwas an accountant instead what would you think of him?

[Turkish]

I'd think he had the ego and self importance to make an excellent chairman of a lower half premier league club.

[Tokyo-Saint]

But does he have the jacket? I think not.

[Stanley Saint]

If le tiss wasn't a legend player andwas an accountant instead what would you think of him?

 

I'd think: 'bloody hell, that accountant can't half kick a ball'

[Turkish]

He could get himself a stylist and put it through the club. Tis standard practice in these parts.

[Matthew Le Tissier]

God are you lot still going on about this

 

One day the penny will drop. I something tells me it won't be much longer.

 

Be patient and hope Franny doesn't fall for a settlement and gagging order. I'm sure franny would rather the truth come out than have sick bags dirty cash, and show him for the vile little specimen he is. Allegedly .

[Roger]

Exactly, I do still have a soft spot for Lawrie, he has one or two rants, and yeah we all know NC can be difficult to fet on with but all in all he keeps himself to himself.

 

I dont agree with the current policy that ex players are not needed, after all they can, if used correctly, bring in money and the corporates to St Marys, though I dont necessarily agree with the free meal ticket, nor did I agree with MLT getting tickets for no marks whilst other genuine fans potentially couldnt go.

 

I cant help but think MLT has stuck his foot in his mouth here though, you still get the gob****es like I mentioned before and the likes of Roger who cant see the wood for the trees and blindly blame NC, you get the dinlos that are friendly with the Macs and Le Tissiers swallowing their crap etc but all in all Le Tiss has made himself to look a plum, perhaps Nik did call his bluff, but hell, Le Tiss walked straight into it, all he had to do is keep his mouth shut.

 

But then, TBH, this whole debarcle isnt worth the media and forum attention its actually getting.

 

Oh do me a favour you sad man. I think Matty was stupid in last few days. I just think his hearts in right place and when people start to rewrite history and say Matty wasn't our best player then I think it's not on.

[Dig Dig]

^ another crack pot Satanist

[Tokyo-Saint]

Where does be Say that Roger?

 

You hearing voices?

[Roger]

MLT has lost the battle and the War, therefore he should keep quiet now. You have to hand it to Cortese - he isn't daft. What MLT fails to realise is that he is an EX player, and what is important to the fans NOW is for Saints to retain PL status. Personally, I was very upset with NC for sacking NA, but you cannot hold a grudge forever. It is divisive, and does no one any favours. Matt should reflect rather mouth off. He has no more right to be treated like a God than any lifelong Saints fan. We pay for the privilege, we don't get paid.

 

Heartless.

[Roger]

Where does be Say that Roger?

 

You hearing voices?

 

Someone said this not smirking saint. Le tiss was my hero but cortese has done a great job. Move on now.

[Tokyo-Saint]

Heartless? what are you talking about?

[Tokyo-Saint]

Someone said this not smirking saint. Le tiss was my hero but cortese has done a great job. Move on now.

 

Why quote smirker then? Why not quote the person that said it? Who said it? Did someone really say it?

[CanadaSaint]

Oh do me a favour you sad man. I think Matty was stupid in last few days. I just think his hearts in right place and when people start to rewrite history and say Matty wasn't our best player then I think it's not on.

 

I've asked you this before but I'll try again. How old are you?

 

I'm interested because you seem to think that you've seen enough of our greats to conclude that MLT was our best-ever, and I'm not sure I agree with that. The most talented, certainly, but not necessarily - in my book anyway - the best player we've ever had. I've seen others who made a different and arguably more consistent kind of contribution, so Matty - much as I admire him, for football anyway - doesn't get my nod.

 

And I'm not re-writing any history to reach that conclusion. It's just my opinion, so don't call me "sad", an "idiot" or worse (as is your wont when someone disagrees with you) for voicing it.

 

Still, I'm glad to see that even you are finally reaching the conclusion that, great as he may have been with his boots on, he's been acting like a bit of an idiot lately.

[Tokyo-Saint]

Oh!... It was him ^

[Matthew Le Tissier]

That was my point several pages ago. Uneccesary dig at Benali there.

 

 

Originally Posted by um pahars

Plus I found the bit about asking whether Benali has the Clubs interests at heart if he is suing the club a bit weird.

 

Not because I thought it was a Benali V Cortese issue, but instead the insinuation that even if you think the club have @%*ed you over, then you should just take it on the chin and let your love of the Club override natural justice.

 

Now wasn't this something we were having a pop at Pprtdmuff for when we were asking them to honour their debts and not suggest that their suppliers should be pressured in to writing off their debts.

 

I took back a dodgy Saints track suit I bought for my nephew recently, I presume I haven't got the Club's interests at heart if I'm asking for a refund!

That was my point several pages ago. Uneccesary dig at Benali there.

 

 

Its probably the club he is sueing as its the club who paid/ pays rats rent?? Just like his wife's nails bill. Allegedly I might add. Cortese is alot of things but not stupid.

 

I doubt he would put his own money in jeperdy like that.

[CanadaSaint]

Oh!... It was him ^

 

No, it wasn't me - even though I rather agree with whoever it was that did say it. I just find Roger's insults annoying so I took a shot back.

[Roger]

I've asked you this before but I'll try again. How old are you?

 

I'm interested because you seem to think that you've seen enough of our greats to conclude that MLT was our best-ever, and I'm not sure I agree with that. The most talented, certainly, but not necessarily - in my book anyway - the best player we've ever had. I've seen others who made a different and arguably more consistent kind of contribution, so Matty - much as I admire him, for football anyway - doesn't get my nod.

 

And I'm not re-writing any history to reach that conclusion. It's just my opinion, so don't call me "sad", an "idiot" or worse (as is your wont when someone disagrees with you) for voicing it.

 

Still, I'm glad to see that even you are finally reaching the conclusion that, great as he may have been with his boots on, he's been acting like a bit of an idiot lately.

 

I started supporting saints as a season ticket holder in 86 so fair point. I was very young lol. I sit with 8 of my family every match and they have seen all the best players and they think le Tiss is best. Two votes in last 20 years back up my point as le tiss has been voted our greatest player by the fans. I understand it was in his era though.

I think looking back, le Tiss contribution was the greatest in our history in terms of producing in important games. I would say channon isn't far behind then Paine. However, it must be said that channon and Payne played a lot of their career not at the top flight especially Paine. It's an argument with lots of opinions but i think most would agree with me. That includes a lot of the fans who have seen them all. Ted bates told me in 2000 that he hadn't seen a better saints player than le tissier. That's a pretty good reference.