Mr X Posted 2 February, 2013 Posted 2 February, 2013 Happy to admit i may have been a bit harsh on him. I basically said he will never make it as a decent premiership striker but the the game against Tesco united was without doubt the best hes been his workrate was ridiculous and his movement caused them numerous problems. I certainly hope it wasnt a flash in the pan and he continues to improve. Is he premiership quality? time will tell i guess
iansums Posted 2 February, 2013 Posted 2 February, 2013 It always amazes me how quick some people are to write players off. Look at Yoshida for instance who struggled to begin with in a very shaky defence but is now proving to be a very shrewd buy. With JRod he simply has not played enough games, he clearly needs a decent run in the side in his natural position. What has counted against him is the form of SRL, no one knew for certain that he wold carry on his form from the Championship but he has.
Saintandy666 Posted 2 February, 2013 Posted 2 February, 2013 Needs to be some reassessment of what a decent PL striker is now. Aren't exactly many goal machines out there. He's shown to too good for the Championship and not looked out of place in this league, even out of position. Definitely on the reassessment stuff. Good strikers do a lot more than be goal-scoring machines. And at the level we are at, we are probably only gonna have one 'big scoring' striker. And even if you look at Lambert, he does a lot more than score goals with his hold up play and assists and so on.
Golac's Cunning Stunts Posted 2 February, 2013 Posted 2 February, 2013 It always amazes me how quick some people are to write players off. Look at Yoshida for instance who struggled to begin with in a very shaky defence but is now proving to be a very shrewd buy. With JRod he simply has not played enough games, he clearly needs a decent run in the side in his natural position. What has counted against him is the form of SRL, no one knew for certain that he wold carry on his form from the Championship but he has. And look at Jos who had a torrid time in the early games but is doing a lot better since his return to the team
Olallana Posted 2 February, 2013 Posted 2 February, 2013 I said already after the game against West Brom that I think J-Rod is just as good as a footballer as Shane Long but Long has another mentality on the pitch. If J-Rod toughen up a bit and starts bullyiing defenders he will be just as good and perhaps it´s just down to lack of experience on this level. When he gets more of that he will turn out very good....
Mr X Posted 2 February, 2013 Author Posted 2 February, 2013 And look at Jos who had a torrid time in the early games but is doing a lot better since his return to the team he was immense for us in the championship and can be a decent back up player. is fonte fit again now?
SaintBobby Posted 2 February, 2013 Posted 2 February, 2013 Still not wholly convinced by J-Rod. Seems to have potential - but I've been a tad underwhelmed so far. (Btw, just mentioned on Radio 5 that Norwich tried to buy him in the Jan transfer window apparently...must have missed that rumour)
Cabrone Posted 2 February, 2013 Posted 2 February, 2013 Give JRod the correct service (ground hugging balls through the channels) and he'll score. Remember his FAC goal against Chelsea? The ball was played down the channel and JRod applied a classy finish. The midfield have to give him the correct ammunition as he's got what it takes IMO.
Andre Posted 2 February, 2013 Posted 2 February, 2013 He's a great player, he just doesn't really fit within our system all that well... especially when most games we start with only Lamby on his own.
doggface Posted 2 February, 2013 Posted 2 February, 2013 Jrod has definitely disappointed a little, but his potential is huge. He needs to be better with his back to goal, hold up play and needs to beef up a little IMO. doesnt help being played out of position mind, seems poor on the left but was better on the right on weds
Thedelldays Posted 2 February, 2013 Posted 2 February, 2013 I'm sold. Thought he was a waste of money in my total knee jerk ways I think he is a cracking player and sort of commanded his place in the team Pace. Good finisher. Can work either flank. Just needs a little more strength on the ball. But I am sold on him
Lighthouse Posted 2 February, 2013 Posted 2 February, 2013 I'd just like to bump up this thread in a desperate attempt to add some sense and possitivity to the evening. Thought JRod was excellent today, lots of great running and a superb assist for the second. He's not Usain Bolt quick but he's definitely got a turn of pace and can run in behind players. Thinking about it, today he actual got 2 very good assists, jumping well for the first goal. Starting to look well worth his £7m price tag and the goals will start coming soon. If he can get 10 in all competitions by the end of the season, that would be an excellent return. Maybe a bit ambitious but that should be his target.
ant Posted 2 February, 2013 Posted 2 February, 2013 He was electric, absolutely everywhere today. Knew he had a good first touch on him but that also translated to some very nice Lallana-esque skill on the edge of Wigan's box on several occasions. Showed top quality and great patience for the delivery in to Schneiderlin.
S-Clarke Posted 2 February, 2013 Posted 2 February, 2013 He was written off by some way too early. Always rated him, ability wise he has what it takes to play for England and I still stand by that. I think he's a classy player.
Andre Posted 2 February, 2013 Posted 2 February, 2013 Amazing today, some sick runs, he looks great out on the wing IMO.
Webby Posted 2 February, 2013 Posted 2 February, 2013 I think he's been brilliant in the last two games especially. He seems to have found some confidence and belief from somewhere as I feel that's all that was lacking before. MOTM today without a doubt.
ottery st mary Posted 2 February, 2013 Posted 2 February, 2013 Jay Rod was superb today.... MOM between him and Mr Lambert.. COYS Gaston and Punch again not on song... Do not worry fellow posters...we are improving all the time.. Lallana back to start and the vast improvement with Davis...
jasonb Posted 2 February, 2013 Posted 2 February, 2013 Yep. Total agreement here. I thought he was superb. Strong and powerful running in the channels. Great composure to cut the ball back for Morgan. I think he'll only get better with more game time. He's the future for me.
Lazlo78 Posted 2 February, 2013 Posted 2 February, 2013 I was afraid he would turn into a solid battling forward who can apply pressure on the defense but who poses little goal threat. Today's showing can't entirely dispel that fear but he has shown that he is a real assett in our offensive play. The way he set up Davis against Chelsea showed a glimpse of his technical ability and today he continued in that vein with some excellent touches. The assist for Lambert was a show of power and the assist for Morgan was pure persistence. Great game from Jay...
Katalinic Posted 2 February, 2013 Posted 2 February, 2013 Best i've seen him play today. Was outstanding. Agreed
silverback Posted 2 February, 2013 Posted 2 February, 2013 Agreed Could have gone down for a free kick but stayed on his feet to set up Morgan for the second
Saint Charlie Posted 2 February, 2013 Posted 2 February, 2013 Hs was a threat all day and well worth a starting place.
Monk Posted 2 February, 2013 Posted 2 February, 2013 My opinion on him really has been flipped on its head. Still a lot to do but I have been really impressed with him.
The Cat Posted 2 February, 2013 Posted 2 February, 2013 Quality today. Has good touch, now adding strength to his runs. The one to set up our second was superb.
Seaford Saint Posted 2 February, 2013 Posted 2 February, 2013 He has been excellent for some time now. If you guys had had your way you would have sold him on or stuck him out on loan ages ago.
Patrick Bateman Posted 2 February, 2013 Posted 2 February, 2013 Some of his skills were really good today, some "Lallana-esque" - growing in to an impressive player, I think there is room for him and Rickie together this season, but next season, I can see him leading the line.
NickG Posted 3 February, 2013 Posted 3 February, 2013 And those slagging off Ramirez should remember he is younger than Rodriguez and settling into a new country.
NickG Posted 3 February, 2013 Posted 3 February, 2013 Ramirez is a quality player. Arsene Wenger said that when he sign young player from abroad he expects about 50% performance in first season due to settling into country/culture. Ramirez is also younger than Rodriguez, Scheiderlin, Cork, Puncheon, Lallana and only few month older than Clyne - often noticed at home players looking to him when under pressure of stuck for ideas. Got feeling these threads will be yet more that show the usual suspects are wrong.
red&white56 Posted 3 February, 2013 Posted 3 February, 2013 And those slagging off Ramirez should remember he is younger than Rodriguez and settling into a new country. That's a very good point. I've not been that impressed with Ramirez so far, but I hadn't considered his age in my evauation. I think also his price tag heavily influences the way people think about him.
Ohio Saint Posted 3 February, 2013 Posted 3 February, 2013 He was like roger rabbit today Yes, he was like a sneaky little vibrating thing that excites tha ladies
Dig Dig Posted 3 February, 2013 Posted 3 February, 2013 I'm sold. Thought he was a waste of money in my total knee jerk ways I think he is a cracking player and sort of commanded his place in the team Pace. Good finisher. Can work either flank. Just needs a little more strength on the ball. But I am sold on him
Window Cleaner Posted 3 February, 2013 Posted 3 February, 2013 That's a very good point. I've not been that impressed with Ramirez so far, but I hadn't considered his age in my evauation. I think also his price tag heavily influences the way people think about him. Ramirez has certainly shown flashes but I think he's having difficult coming to terms with the physicality of the English game. Went off with a dead leg again yesterday, think he picked that up fairy early on. Don't know if it's the same leg that kept him out for a few games a while back but he certainly seems to pick up dead-legs easily.
Turkish Posted 3 February, 2013 Posted 3 February, 2013 Amazing today, some sick runs, he looks great out on the wing IMO. Some What runs?
S-Clarke Posted 3 February, 2013 Posted 3 February, 2013 He didn't look ill to me. You're not down wit' the kids Turkish.
Lazlo78 Posted 3 February, 2013 Posted 3 February, 2013 Just remembered: that was one nasty tackle that JRod delivered yesterday - a more dramatic ref may have sent him off for that... I did appreciate it though
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