Thedelldays Posted 31 January, 2013 Share Posted 31 January, 2013 How many times....he can't come back until the summer. What a joke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 31 January, 2013 Share Posted 31 January, 2013 What a joke Why is it ? We play with 1 up front, Lambert. If he gets injured we have J-Rod, and if they're both injured we have Mayuka. It was probably Sharp that instigated the deal anyway because he comes across as the kind of player that just loves playing football. He won't have wanted to be 3rd choice striker here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfc4prem Posted 31 January, 2013 Share Posted 31 January, 2013 What a joke Absence makes the heart grow fonder. He's no great shake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 31 January, 2013 Share Posted 31 January, 2013 Absence makes the heart grow fonder. He's no great shake. If le fondre can come off the bench and score as many goals as lambert. I really think sharp could have grabbed the odd goal.....especially given the amount of draws we have had I would also predict he would have made more of an impact than mayuka this season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 31 January, 2013 Share Posted 31 January, 2013 (edited) What a joke Why? Do you not think its odd that no Premier League club has taken a punt on him? He's been kicking around and scoring in the champ for long enough to be noticed now. Clearly you know more than all the Premier League Managers & scouts yeah? Edited 31 January, 2013 by KelvinsRightGlove spelling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 31 January, 2013 Share Posted 31 January, 2013 If le fondre can come off the bench and score as many goals as lambert. I really think sharp could have grabbed the odd goal.....especially given the amount of draws we have had I would also predict he would have made more of an impact than mayuka this season You'll never know! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 31 January, 2013 Share Posted 31 January, 2013 What a dull deadline day this is. (not just us, but all clubs) QPR are just being predictably boring with their over-expensive signings and has-beens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 31 January, 2013 Share Posted 31 January, 2013 You'll never know! As it stands. Rodriguez is our only credible striker from the bench. Who is often played wide. It could only have been to our benefit to keep sharp here this season. I have no doubt he would have grabbed the odd goal from the bench....even if he just scored 1 and turned one of our many draws into a win. It would be more of an impact than playing for forest.... Where he did not really want to go I would rate sharp much better than le fondre... If he can score as many goals as Rickie lambert from the bench, I have no doubt sharp would have got the odd goal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 31 January, 2013 Share Posted 31 January, 2013 £12.5m for Samba is amazing. Our entire back 4 plus goalkeeper come to less than that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 31 January, 2013 Share Posted 31 January, 2013 As it stands. Rodriguez is our only credible striker from the bench. Who is often played wide. It could only have been to our benefit to keep sharp here this season. I have no doubt he would have grabbed the odd goal from the bench....even if he just scored 1 and turned one of our many draws into a win. It would be more of an impact than playing for forest.... Where he did not really want to go I think the theory was that Mayuka was supposed to be some sort of superstar hotshot, him being ranked 85 th in the world and all that. Turns out he's a total waste of space and Sharp could probably have done far far better and we'd get to keep the 3.1 million £ to boot. Our transfer committee needs disbanding rapidly with the oversight on transfers being left to the manager and the chairman. Beginning to have my doubts about Gaston as well, far too erratic for a 12 million £ spend as we don't seem to have players capable of replacing him when he's crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 31 January, 2013 Share Posted 31 January, 2013 No, he probably wanted to be told he'd play a big part in our season. He was probably told otherwise and if he wanted to play every week then go on loan. You can't really speculate whether he'd grab a few off the bench can you!? I could say, put Hooiveld up front and he'd prob score a few, but it's all opinion and speculation. I just don't think Sharp has the natural ability or pace to cause prem defenders problems. Comes across as a lovely bloke, and played a big part last year, but J-Rod and Mayuka offer more of a threat from the bench IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 31 January, 2013 Share Posted 31 January, 2013 Mayuka offers more of a threat? lol A cameo against villa and one good half against spurs Brilliant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 31 January, 2013 Share Posted 31 January, 2013 People need to get over Sharp. He did a good job for us and is a decent Championship goal poacher but he isn't coming back here. I don't see stacks of Premier League teams falling over themselves to sign him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Bob Posted 31 January, 2013 Share Posted 31 January, 2013 SFC Footy Page @SFCFootyPage @aap3saints Chris Samba : "I hav£ com£ back to £nglish football, du£ to p£rsonal r£asons. I hav£ r£ally miss£d the £nglish gam£. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 31 January, 2013 Share Posted 31 January, 2013 Mayuka offers more of a threat? lol A cameo against villa and one good half against spurs Brilliant For 21 he has achieved a lot more than Sharp has though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 31 January, 2013 Share Posted 31 January, 2013 To be fair, there was an awful lot of people saying we need to bring in Prem experience. Which isn't unreasonable. However there is a large difference between wanting to sign players with Premier League experience and going down the QPR/Redknapp route of players like Samba for £12m on £100kpw. KRG is suggesting people just want to sign players for the sake of it, which is clearly not that case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graffito Posted 31 January, 2013 Share Posted 31 January, 2013 As it stands. Rodriguez is our only credible striker from the bench. Who is often played wide. It could only have been to our benefit to keep sharp here this season. I have no doubt he would have grabbed the odd goal from the bench....even if he just scored 1 and turned one of our many draws into a win. It would be more of an impact than playing for forest.... Where he did not really want to go I would rate sharp much better than le fondre... If he can score as many goals as Rickie lambert from the bench, I have no doubt sharp would have got the odd goal Agree we are short of a striker but that striker isn't Billy Sharp, much as we'd all like it to be, because he isn't good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 31 January, 2013 Share Posted 31 January, 2013 Really... its about the one thing that is obvious is that he took the plunge at the best time to sack him. He let Nigel stabilize us, then got the new guy in when we could have a break abroad with the option for possible transfers at the end of the window. He said it himself. This guy is here to take us on to the next level and its fair evident what that means with the style of play vs Man Utd and Everton and the fact that we outplayed United for the 45min we bothered to turn up for. Its also nice to have a manager who knows how to make a decent substitution. Been a while. But at no point has anyone associated with the club said "we are bringing in MP to attract and sign global football stars". Stop knocking the club with every single post. There are enough people to do that without you adding to it. Or if you are going to, at least base it on some bloody evidence. Otherwise you are on the slippery slopes of an Alpine region. As for transfers, people in this thread have been saying that we are not better than Wigan, reading, qpr, villa etc etc. Well correct me if I am wrong, But we are a newly promoted side who has one 5 out of 6 matches vs our direct rivals. Now if we had lost 5/6 matches, we would clearly be worse than them (and 15points worse off). So how people can argue the opposite is beyond me, especially when you consider our start and the improvement in form and defense over the last set of matches. I think the question should be, if people are unhappy with the team, who would you switch with in the bottom 5 clubs? Ok I shall base it upon the reality that we have picked up 1 point out of 6, how is he in fairness going to take us to the next level which I am all for if he is not allowed to buy players? We played superbly last night but that does not detract from the issue of players and a lack of quailty in our squad. It sounds like another Cortese patsy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Posted 31 January, 2013 Share Posted 31 January, 2013 Such an underwhelming transfer window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 31 January, 2013 Share Posted 31 January, 2013 Mayuka offers more of a threat? lol A cameo against villa and one good half against spurs Brilliant What you have to ask yourself is this. In the 24 matches to date would we have got any less input from Sharp than we have from Mayuka? Would Billy have not been able to stab home just 1 ball floating about the penalty area? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 31 January, 2013 Share Posted 31 January, 2013 BBC Sport @BBCSport QPR, Reading, Wigan & Villa fans where do you need to strengthen to avoid drop. Who is ideal signing? Tweet using #bbctransfernews Like this tweet. Don't include us. Does that mean we aren't going down? Or is it the Anti-Saints Beeb assuming we are already down? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 31 January, 2013 Share Posted 31 January, 2013 Mayuka offers more of a threat? lol A cameo against villa and one good half against spurs Brilliant Well from when he has played he's not been terrible, and is quick. He's no world beater but will cause problems given a chance, don't write him off just yet. He's still very young and the scouting team clearly saw something in him to get him over here and pay money for him. And plus he raises our profile in Africa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 31 January, 2013 Share Posted 31 January, 2013 What you have to ask yourself is this. In the 24 matches to date would we have got any less input from Sharp than we have from Mayuka? Would Billy have not been able to stab home just 1 ball floating about the penalty area? Not if he wasn't on the pitch, no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 31 January, 2013 Share Posted 31 January, 2013 I've not claimed to be more intelligent than anyone else. Plenty on here seem happy to moan about lack of incomings, but not so fussed about the potential cost or quality of said signings. Funny how you are just as guilty of what you are accusing me of. That said, I agree with the last part of your post. I still think our current team is good enough to keep us up. I think any signings made should be an improvement on what we currently have. Given how notorious Jan is for being a minefield for getting quality at sensible prices, I'm happy for us to not go into panic mode and sign anyone. It doesn't take much searching to find plenty of others who disagree with this. In your previous post you implied people with a different opinion suffered from Down's Syndrome, yet you are not claiming to be more intelligent than they are. I believe the bit in bold when you can find proof of people saying, "We need to sign someone, anyone I don't care how good or bad they are." As in a credible post not one of our resident forum lunatics or some sad muppet trying to be funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 31 January, 2013 Share Posted 31 January, 2013 Which isn't unreasonable. However there is a large difference between wanting to sign players with Premier League experience and going down the QPR/Redknapp route of players like Samba for £12m on £100kpw. KRG is suggesting people just want to sign players for the sake of it, which is clearly not that case. I've not said every poster. But, there clearly are posters that just want signings, no matter what. It's pretty obvious to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 31 January, 2013 Share Posted 31 January, 2013 I've not claimed to be more intelligent than anyone else. Plenty on here seem happy to moan about lack of incomings, but not so fussed about the potential cost or quality of said signings. Funny how you are just as guilty of what you are accusing me of. That said, I agree with the last part of your post. I still think our current team is good enough to keep us up. I think any signings made should be an improvement on what we currently have. Given how notorious Jan is for being a minefield for getting quality at sensible prices, I'm happy for us to not go into panic mode and sign anyone. It doesn't take much searching to find plenty of others who disagree with this. If you think January is a minefield for transfers, what do you think about the appointment of Potchettino? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 31 January, 2013 Share Posted 31 January, 2013 For 21 he has achieved a lot more than Sharp has though. So what?? He has done just above nothing for us There is no doubt in my mind that sharp would have contributed more than Mayuka this season. Just seems a completely bizarre signing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyer Posted 31 January, 2013 Share Posted 31 January, 2013 £12.5m for Samba is amazing. Our entire back 4 plus goalkeeper come to less than that! Samba or Ramires, I know who 99% of Saints fans would have wanted in the summer. The £12.5m is based on what Anzhi paid for him, not what QPR paid. I love the fact that people are saying they are hasbeens, a 22yo, a 26yo and a 28yo so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 31 January, 2013 Share Posted 31 January, 2013 Mayuka offers more of a threat? lol A cameo against villa and one good half against spurs Brilliant How are people writing off Mayuka already? Jesus H christ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 31 January, 2013 Share Posted 31 January, 2013 In your previous post you implied people with a different opinion suffered from Down's Syndrome, yet you are not claiming to be more intelligent than they are. I believe the bit in bold when you can find proof of people saying, "We need to sign someone, anyone I don't care how good or bad they are." As in a credible post not one of our resident forum lunatics or some sad muppet trying to be funny. Errrm, You are clearly being a tad dramatic here. I am not now, nor would I ever make that sort of link. If you are going to single me out for the use of the word mong, then you are proving exactly how deep your head is in the sand, and how blind you are to other posts on here. It doesn't take a great deal of intelligence to realise that mong, has seeped into the populations vernacular, with a different meaning. This is hardly the first time in history this has happened, is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 31 January, 2013 Share Posted 31 January, 2013 Not if he wasn't on the pitch, no. Do you think if billy was here he would have got less game time than mayuka this season? Do you think mayuka has made more of an impact this season than what sharp would have done? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 31 January, 2013 Share Posted 31 January, 2013 Samba or Ramires, I know who 99% of Saints fans would have wanted in the summer. The £12.5m is based on what Anzhi paid for him, not what QPR paid. I love the fact that people are saying they are hasbeens, a 22yo, a 26yo and a 28yo so far. Yeah, maybe, but Gaston isn't on anything close to £100k/week... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 31 January, 2013 Share Posted 31 January, 2013 Samba just happens to look about 40 innit. They actually was saying on the radio that Samba took paycut to come play for QPR. They didn't have no details tho... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 31 January, 2013 Share Posted 31 January, 2013 So what?? He has done just above nothing for us There is no doubt in my mind that sharp would have contributed more than Mayuka this season. Just seems a completely bizarre signing Really? Despite the fact he can't play on the wing so would have had both Lambert AND Rodriguez ahead of him (neither of whom have been out with injuries)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 31 January, 2013 Share Posted 31 January, 2013 How are people writing off Mayuka already? Jesus H christ. What are you on about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints-cris Posted 31 January, 2013 Share Posted 31 January, 2013 Its funny to think Samba is on more than Vidic and Kompany. Kompany was bought for half the price. Good going Harry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 31 January, 2013 Share Posted 31 January, 2013 Well from when he has played he's not been terrible, and is quick. He's no world beater but will cause problems given a chance, don't write him off just yet. He's still very young and the scouting team clearly saw something in him to get him over here and pay money for him. And plus he raises our profile in Africa If Rodriguez as a striker gets a run out as a winger you would of though our specialist winger would of got a chance at his bread and butter position? Unless of course the World 85th best footballer is in fact gash and our scouts are in fact dib dib dobbing and not involved in football at all...................................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 31 January, 2013 Share Posted 31 January, 2013 What are you on about? You clearly don't think he's good enough and yet he's barely had a chance, and even the small chances he has had, he's looked decent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 31 January, 2013 Share Posted 31 January, 2013 If Rodriguez as a striker gets a run out as a winger you would of though our specialist winger would of got a chance at his bread and butter position? Unless of course the World 85th best footballer is in fact gash and our scouts are in fact dib dib dobbing and not involved in football at all...................................... Apart from the fact he's not a winger, he's a striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olallana Posted 31 January, 2013 Share Posted 31 January, 2013 I wonder what this board would have thought of Henry and Bergkamp during their first year at Arsenal......just sayin.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 31 January, 2013 Share Posted 31 January, 2013 Really? Despite the fact he can't play on the wing so would have had both Lambert AND Rodriguez ahead of him (neither of whom have been out with injuries)? Considering Rodriguez has played quite a lot in the wide posititions. It would have made another option... Especially when we have been drawing so many games and wasting so many chances... If le fondre can equal lambert a total from the reading bench. I have no doubt that sharp would have got the odd goal at least Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 31 January, 2013 Share Posted 31 January, 2013 Do you think if billy was here he would have got less game time than mayuka this season? Do you think mayuka has made more of an impact this season than what sharp would have done? I don't think Sharp would have played very much at all. I don't think he would have done much when he has been on the pitch. Mayuka offers us something that we dont really have in the forward areas is pace. For whatever reason he hasn't really been utilised yet, but I can't think of many games where Sharp would have made a difference this year. He did a job last season, yes, but IMO he's not good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 31 January, 2013 Share Posted 31 January, 2013 How are people writing off Mayuka already? Jesus H christ. You remember the impact Perry Groves had right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 31 January, 2013 Share Posted 31 January, 2013 You clearly don't think he's good enough and yet he's barely had a chance, and even the small chances he has had, he's looked decent. Where have I said he is not good enough. Well he hasn't showed he is. And seems to be one for the future. I would have kept sharp. Which is my point. That does not mean I would have not signed mayuka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 31 January, 2013 Share Posted 31 January, 2013 Samba just happens to look about 40 innit. They actually was saying on the radio that Samba took paycut to come play for QPR. They didn't have no details tho... Probably on the same wage, but because tax is less he is earning less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 31 January, 2013 Share Posted 31 January, 2013 Considering Rodriguez has played quite a lot in the wide posititions. It would have made another option... Especially when we have been drawing so many games and wasting so many chances... If le fondre can equal lambert a total from the reading bench. I have no doubt that sharp would have got the odd goal at least To be honest from what I've seen from Le Fondre last season and this I think he's better than Sharp anyway, definitely missed a trick not signing him when we were in league 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardc Posted 31 January, 2013 Share Posted 31 January, 2013 NO one will know how Sharp would of done in the PL unless he is given a chance - all we know is he scored goals for fun in the championship and was our top scorer in pre-season - players like Le Fondre are making a impact in the PL It was stupid to get rid of him at the start of the season - at least they should of given him a few games to see how it worked out then if he didnt perform so be it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 31 January, 2013 Share Posted 31 January, 2013 I don't think Sharp would have played very much at all. I don't think he would have done much when he has been on the pitch. Mayuka offers us something that we dont really have in the forward areas is pace. For whatever reason he hasn't really been utilised yet, but I can't think of many games where Sharp would have made a difference this year. He did a job last season, yes, but IMO he's not good enough. Well, we disagree. If le fondre can hit double figures in the prem, then I believe sharp would have scores at least 1 goal...as I think he is a much better striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 31 January, 2013 Share Posted 31 January, 2013 Apparently Stoke are getting Butland for £4m plus a loan deal for Shotton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 31 January, 2013 Share Posted 31 January, 2013 Sharp was signed as 2nd choice because we did not get Hooper. Hooper was a "help get us promoted and then be part of our Premier league team". Hence bid of £7m. Sharp was purely a "help get us promoted" signing. I liked him but he is at the right level now and no one else is interested. Meantime, Hooper will be in a Premier league side either today or in the summer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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