Saint Charlie Posted 29 January, 2013 Posted 29 January, 2013 Zambia have their final group game vs Burkina Faso. Also in the group is Ethiopia v Nigeria. Current table is: Burkina Faso P2 GD4 P4 Nigeria P2 GD0 P2 Zambia P2 GD0 P2 Ethiopia P2 GD-4 P1 If Zambia lose they will be knocked out and a draw might not be enough assuming Nigeria don't lose to Ethiopia. Would be good for Saints to have him back as another option for Saturday. Both games are 5pm UK kick off.
Window Cleaner Posted 29 January, 2013 Posted 29 January, 2013 Has he been playing well in the ACN? not really no.
Saint Garrett Posted 29 January, 2013 Posted 29 January, 2013 lets hope they lose but Mayuka gets a hattrick.
Sharktopus Posted 29 January, 2013 Posted 29 January, 2013 Has he been playing well in the ACN? Aside from winning a penalty for no apparent reason the other day, he's not been great.
Andre Posted 29 January, 2013 Posted 29 January, 2013 Cool... great to hear he's worth the fuss! Really want him to be good, get a chance to prove himself, and play well... for some reason I'm not so ruthless with him as I am with other imports.
Saint Charlie Posted 29 January, 2013 Author Posted 29 January, 2013 He is still very young but clearly has some good attributes. Hard to read anything into his performances for three reasons: 1. He is lacking game time and probably confidence this season 2. The standard of supply is so poor 3. The pitches are horrible and hard to play and good footy on.
david in sweden Posted 29 January, 2013 Posted 29 January, 2013 Aside from winning a penalty for no apparent reason the other day, he's not been great. ......I watched the first match and he came on as an 80th minute sub !...not much chance to do anything there.
Sharktopus Posted 29 January, 2013 Posted 29 January, 2013 ......I watched the first match and he came on as an 80th minute sub !...not much chance to do anything there. Agreed, but he didn't do anything of note in the second match either. Did I get the bold thing right?
scotty Posted 29 January, 2013 Posted 29 January, 2013 Already booked for diving Pitch is awful, btw.
scotty Posted 29 January, 2013 Posted 29 January, 2013 Agreed, but he didn't do anything of note in the second match either. Did I get the bold thing right? He's looked good so far today. Sharp, nippy, a few good passes and crosses and very good movement off the ball, hope he doesn't get crocked on this pitch.
scotty Posted 29 January, 2013 Posted 29 January, 2013 Didnt realise it was on Eurosport! I watched it on a stream, yes it was a eurosport one. One of the ads at half time was a joke airline thing, featuring kobe bryant and lionel messi trying to outsmart each other, and the final tagline was TURKISH AIRLINES. ffs, he gets everywhere. Mayuka had a decent game, I thought. Made one particularly good defensive mopping-up job in the 2nd half, as well as looking very useful on the break.
Olallana Posted 29 January, 2013 Posted 29 January, 2013 Shouldn´t be allowed to play football on pitches like that...
Window Cleaner Posted 29 January, 2013 Posted 29 January, 2013 Shouldn´t be allowed to play football on pitches like that... Agreed it was rubbish. Then again I thought Mayuka was rubbish, Zambia were rubbish, Burkina Faso defended well enough because it's all they needed to do and grosso modo the whole competition is rubbish. Poor refs, players playing well below their standard and very little public in the grounds. Once every 4 years should be enough for this "triste spectacle". 3 times in 4 years is just far too often.
scotty Posted 29 January, 2013 Posted 29 January, 2013 Shouldn´t be allowed to play football on pitches like that... The taters pointed out that theres a severe water shortage in that area, hence the awful pitch. Priorities, and all that.
david in sweden Posted 29 January, 2013 Posted 29 January, 2013 . Did I get the bold thing right? yes, you did - well done !
Saint Charlie Posted 29 January, 2013 Author Posted 29 January, 2013 He should be back for Saturday then...
Minsk Posted 29 January, 2013 Posted 29 January, 2013 So, good news that Mayuka is on his way back to help the Southampton cause. The bad news is that, based on the past 2 matches and 10 mins from the first, I haven't seen anything to suggest he will be all that much help to us. I really want him to be a success for Saints, but I can see why he hasn't played much for us thus far.
Olallana Posted 29 January, 2013 Posted 29 January, 2013 The taters pointed out that theres a severe water shortage in that area, hence the awful pitch. Priorities, and all that. Ok, didn´t hear that on my broadcast and makes it somewhat understandable but I guess they sjould know what kind of climate they have there in January.... Well well, it´s sad for the tournaments sake cause that one can be quite entertaining usually....
krissyboy31 Posted 29 January, 2013 Posted 29 January, 2013 What a poor poor match, played on a sh!t pitch in front of a crowd even the Skates would have been embarrased by!
Golac's Cunning Stunts Posted 29 January, 2013 Posted 29 January, 2013 Makes you wonder why we spent money on him in all honesty. There were probably better positions to spend it on. Hope he proves me wrong.
110_Persaint Posted 29 January, 2013 Posted 29 January, 2013 Can't express in words how happy I am that Zambia are out. Come back home Manny we've mised you! Our need for you is even greater now that we've let another transfer window pass by us having done f**k all.
Turkish Posted 29 January, 2013 Posted 29 January, 2013 He's looked good so far today. Sharp, nippy, a few good passes and crosses and very good movement off the ball, hope he doesn't get crocked on this pitch. Dont bring Billy and Tanadari Lee into this FFS.
pangy Posted 29 January, 2013 Posted 29 January, 2013 Aside from winning a penalty for no apparent reason the other day, he's not been great. That is pretty much all he has done for us as well
Smirking_Saint Posted 29 January, 2013 Posted 29 January, 2013 The taters pointed out that theres a severe water shortage in that area, hence the awful pitch. Priorities, and all that. Exactly, very good point Scotty, there is no reason not to have decent pitches, I didnt wear a jonny on my head for nothing all day, where do our comic relief quids go ?
Mr Saints Posted 29 January, 2013 Posted 29 January, 2013 African Nations = Pompey of football competitions
pangy Posted 29 January, 2013 Posted 29 January, 2013 The only good thing about the ACON is the goal celebrations
SaintJackoInHurworth Posted 29 January, 2013 Posted 29 January, 2013 Shame for him he's coming back - from what I have seen of him, he isn't good enough to play for us in the Premiership. Come to think of it, from what I've seen of him he wouldn't be good enough to play for us in the Championship if we were to get relegated! So, maybe it's a shame for us he is coming back too! That having been said, I hope that having had some game time out there maybe he can come back and prove me wrong!
sotonjoe Posted 29 January, 2013 Posted 29 January, 2013 So far he has looked to be a bloody great waste of £3m. No idea who is responsible but someone needs to take some bloody responsibility here.
Matthew Le God Posted 29 January, 2013 Posted 29 January, 2013 Shame for him he's coming back - from what I have seen of him, he isn't good enough to play for us in the Premiership. Come to think of it, from what I've seen of him he wouldn't be good enough to play for us in the Championship if we were to get relegated! So, maybe it's a shame for us he is coming back too! That having been said, I hope that having had some game time out there maybe he can come back and prove me wrong! So far he has looked to be a bloody great waste of £3m. No idea who is responsible but someone needs to take some bloody responsibility here. You both didn't goto the Tottenham game then? When he game on, played on the right of a 4-2-3-1 system, he turned the game towards us and made a big difference. Tottenham couldn't handle him running down their left. He has hardly been given a chance in terms of game time and starts, he is still only 22 and has a lot of potential imo.
Saint Charlie Posted 29 January, 2013 Author Posted 29 January, 2013 Those writing him off are basing this on how many appearances? One league start and a handful of sub apps?
pangy Posted 29 January, 2013 Posted 29 January, 2013 Fail to see how he would fit into the current system
sotonjoe Posted 29 January, 2013 Posted 29 January, 2013 You both didn't goto the Tottenham game then? When he game on, played on the right of a 4-2-3-1 system, he turned the game towards us and made a big difference. Tottenham couldn't handle him running down their left. He has hardly been given a chance in terms of game time and starts, he is still only 22 and has a lot of potential imo. I go to every game Matthew. I'm pleased to see that one supppsedly half decent performance is enough for the happy clappies to be convinced he's better than Messi. I must have missed his goal.
sotonjoe Posted 29 January, 2013 Posted 29 January, 2013 Fail to see how he would fit into the current system You must mean the "playing football" system.
shirleysfc Posted 29 January, 2013 Posted 29 January, 2013 I go to every game Matthew. I'm pleased to see that one supppsedly half decent performance is enough for the happy clappies to be convinced he's better than Messi. I must have missed his goal. So recognising he played well against Spurs and not writing him off after half a dozen sub appearances makes you happy clappy now? It must be depressing being you!
sotonjoe Posted 29 January, 2013 Posted 29 January, 2013 So recognising he played well against Spurs and not writing him off after half a dozen sub appearances makes you happy clappy now? It must be depressing being you! Care to summarise his total contribution to the cause so far? He's made more of a ripple on Facebook than he has in the Premiership. To think we signed someone of his 'calibre' before giving Lee the game time he clearly deserves is nothing short of criminal.
pangy Posted 29 January, 2013 Posted 29 January, 2013 You must mean the "playing football" system. Its not just a "playing football" system though is it,he is not a winger he is a striker,Can you see him keeping Lambert or J-rod out of the team?
tajjuk Posted 30 January, 2013 Posted 30 January, 2013 Care to summarise his total contribution to the cause so far? He's made more of a ripple on Facebook than he has in the Premiership. To think we signed someone of his 'calibre' before giving Lee the game time he clearly deserves is nothing short of criminal. So Lee deserves game time based on his pretty average (but limited) performances so far to replace Mayuka who has also been average based on limited performances so far. Makes a lot of sense. We have some odd fans. He's had 167 minutes of football for us spread out over 6 games. He's managed a decent cameo against Spurs and won a penalty against Villa, enough to show he's no Ali Dia. Not enough to write him off though or to be automatically replaced by a guy that has managed 7 championship games for us and few cup appearances.
saints-cris Posted 30 January, 2013 Posted 30 January, 2013 Think i'll judge him when he actually gets a fair crack at playing. He's got good pace and that's useful at any level.
sotonjoe Posted 30 January, 2013 Posted 30 January, 2013 So Lee deserves game time based on his pretty average (but limited) performances so far to replace Mayuka who has also been average based on limited performances so far. Makes a lot of sense. We have some odd fans. He's had 167 minutes of football for us spread out over 6 games. He's managed a decent cameo against Spurs and won a penalty against Villa, enough to show he's no Ali Dia. Not enough to write him off though or to be automatically replaced by a guy that has managed 7 championship games for us and few cup appearances. Lee has scored a goal. Mayuka hasn't. Pretty simple really.
scotty Posted 30 January, 2013 Posted 30 January, 2013 I go to every game Matthew. I'm pleased to see that one supppsedly half decent performance is enough for the happy clappies to be convinced he's better than Messi. I must have missed his goal. Where has anyone said that he's better than Messi?
Matthew Le God Posted 30 January, 2013 Posted 30 January, 2013 Lee has scored a goal. Mayuka hasn't. Pretty simple really. "Pretty simple" what? Why have you put so much emphasis on one goal vs Derby County? Both players have hardly been given a chance, lets not write them off.
saint_ed Posted 30 January, 2013 Posted 30 January, 2013 Think i'll judge him when he actually gets a fair crack at playing. He's got good pace and that's useful at any level. I think Forte would disagree with you.
tajjuk Posted 30 January, 2013 Posted 30 January, 2013 Lee has scored a goal. Mayuka hasn't. Pretty simple really. Like I said we have some odd fans as you have demonstrated with this comment.
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