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It would be hard for me to argue against Cortese as his decisions so far have brought success and great times. He also obviously wants us to be a very successful club and for that I think most fans would be very grateful. I just wish he would show a little more decency and now and again give the fans, without there wouldn't be a football club, a little more insight into his thinking.

Therefore I am just about pro.

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Anti in terms of his character I hear he genuinely is a nasty piece of work from those that have been in contact with him. In terms of what hes done for the club Im obviously grateful but im not sure Sure i will acknowledge his part in our sucess in future times as he hasnt shown any true acknowledgement of adkins part other than a generic statement barely more than five words. I fear hes more like lowe than any of us realised hope im wrong

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Ultimately pro, and that's due to how far the club has come since he came in.

 

There are things he has done which I haven't agreed with let's say (the way he treated Adkins is the big one) but overall you can't argue with his record since taking us over. The appointment of MP will be a big factor for the remainder of the season.

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most internet people can only see black and white so you can only be one or the other. they dont understand in the real world there is a huge expanse of middle ground where normal people can be neither and both praise and criticise when either are deserved.

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most internet people can only see black and white so you can only be one or the other. they dont understand in the real world there is a huge expanse of middle ground where normal people can be neither and both praise and criticise when either are deserved.

spot on

which is surprising as most of your posting usually requires black or white answers

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I am an OAP so football today is so different when I was a teenager in the 1960s today it is all about money in the PL which I have to accept

 

But I dont like the way Cortese disregards fans I doubt he is doing the best for SFC he is trying to do the best for SFC so he can do the best for himself

 

but I still dont believe he will be as successful as loads on here think because other larger clubs are trying to do the same

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most internet people can only see black and white so you can only be one or the other. they dont understand in the real world there is a huge expanse of middle ground where normal people can be neither and both praise and criticise when either are deserved.

 

So you don't answer the question, even though you are consistently one of the most anti Cortese. Indeed you are so anti that you have even made up an imaginary cult to enable you to visualise everyone who.may have a view that ranges from pro to nearly anti, but who are more pro than you

 

For me, the matter being pro.or anti a chairman of a football club, even Saints is not really of an relevance. There are some things he does well, others not so, but as owner or owner representative he is really free to do as he sees fit. I support Saints, chairmen, players, managers come and go, wait long enough and a.new.one will come along. Pro or anti is a.complete irrelevance.

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most internet people can only see black and white so you can only be one or the other. they dont understand in the real world there is a huge expanse of middle ground where normal people can be neither and both praise and criticise when either are deserved.

 

 

 

What a cop out.

 

Get behind pointless narrow argument FFS.

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most internet people can only see black and white so you can only be one or the other. they dont understand in the real world there is a huge expanse of middle ground where normal people can be neither and both praise and criticise when either are deserved.

 

This.

 

While we're still moving forward and achieving greater success I'll be Pro-NC on balance, since he is at the helm and delivering these results. That doesn't mean he isn't beyond criticism nor will he automatically be defended if there is any doubt.

 

Perhaps I'm a simpleton, but I judge people on what they do, as they do it, based on their reasons for doing it. I don't see the need to put myself firmly in a Pro or Anti camp. As it stands we're in a better position than we have been in many, many years.

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So you don't answer the question, even though you are consistently one of the most anti Cortese. Indeed you are so anti that you have even made up an imaginary cult to enable you to visualise everyone who.may have a view that ranges from pro to nearly anti, but who are more pro than you

 

For me, the matter being pro.or anti a chairman of a football club, even Saints is not really of an relevance. There are some things he does well, others not so, but as owner or owner representative he is really free to do as he sees fit. I support Saints, chairmen, players, managers come and go, wait long enough and a.new.one will come along. Pro or anti is a.complete irrelevance.

 

No, i have and as is evident from the fact you dont think i answered the question in your tiny internet person brain you can only be one or the other. I actually gave him credit twice yesterday as well as cricticising him for the things i feel he doesn't do well. Unfortuantely for internet people not everyone blindly hero worships him to the point where anyone that doesn't say he is the greatest man who ever lived and infallable is anti Cortese.

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On the whole, pro.

 

But I would love to bang his and Le Tissier's heads together and tell them to sort things the f**k out.

 

Totally agree with that sentiment, wonder what NC is like at poker, so deadpan and seems to lack emotion. Watching Port Vale on the box, didn't Mickey Adams get ruthlessly sacked at Fulham in favour of KK.

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MOst of us have never met the guy so can only form an opinion by heresay. As with Lowe the debate should be about his actions and decisions. Clearly he has made many good decisions and sacking Adkins may turn out to be one of them. What still leaves a bitter taste is the way he went about it. He should have had the good grace to front up the media and explain his decision and whilst he was at it he could have given credit to Adkins for his excellent work for the club. Lowe was arrogant but at least he faced the music (and the fans). It takes a certain kind of arrogance to completely ignore everyone whilst making massive decisions about the club they love. Pardew was shoved out of the door with rumours of hanky panky with a players wife (where did that come from I wonder?). Adkins goes as if he was the bloke who fixes the plumbing. The local paper is ignored. Programme sellers are dumped. Our red and white stripes have been dumped. It looks like he is trying to turn us into a brand. If I wanted to support a brand I would follow ManU or Chelski. We may well get into Europe and become a "big" club, but at what price I wonder?

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Am neither. I am pro Southampton.

 

If Cortese makes what I feel are wrong decisions I will criticise him for it. The way he sacked Adkins was wrong.

But if he makes good decisions I will praise him for it. Getting us back to the PL is a good thing that other clubs would love to do. If you asked every club below the PL would they trade their position for ours I think your find the majority would say yes.

 

And for me that is the problem. People are either one side or the other when really they should be in the middle. Praise when praise be needed and criticise when criticism is needed.

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most internet people can only see black and white so you can only be one or the other. they dont understand in the real world there is a huge expanse of middle ground where normal people can be neither and both praise and criticise when either are deserved.

 

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Adkins goes as if he was the bloke who fixes the plumbing. The local paper is ignored. Programme sellers are dumped. Our red and white stripes have been dumped. It looks like he is trying to turn us into a brand. If I wanted to support a brand I would follow ManU or Chelski. We may well get into Europe and become a "big" club, but at what price I wonder?

 

Here here

There's a lot of talk about taking us to the next level and thats all that counts. But there's more to our club then demanding a champions league slot within the planned 5 years. That might be NC dream but do we sacrifice everything to achieve this? IMO we shouldn't. MY club , the club i'm so proud of , wouldn't have fired a successful manager.

Thats why i'm anti-NC and simply pro-Saints.

 

PS.remember Leeds had a similar plan a few years ago. Look where it got them!

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Am neither. I am pro Southampton.

 

 

Absolutely this.

 

You'd think that was fair enough but not for internet nutcases.

 

Only today I was told how difficult it would be for me to support the club on the back of expressing some reservations about Cortese.

 

There are people so boss eyed in their adoration of our CEO that they truly believe he is the club. Mental, but sadly true.

 

 

Oh, and don't offer any critique or opposing view without expecting some forum bellend asking you to form a protest group, write a letter to the Leibherrs or take up arms against Cortese. Any reservation, any questioning, any query expressed means you simply must want to overthrow Cortese and chuck out the Leibherrs. Otherwise you are without conviction.

 

 

Its either unquestioning love or sworn enemy. No middle ground for our mentalists.

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Absolutely this.

 

You'd think that was fair enough but not for internet nutcases.

 

Only today I was told how difficult it would be for me to support the club on the back of expressing some reservations about Cortese.

 

There are people so boss eyed in their adoration of our CEO that they truly believe he is the club. Mental, but sadly true.

 

 

Oh, and don't offer any critique or opposing view without expecting some forum bellend asking you to form a protest group, write a letter to the Leibherrs or take up arms against Cortese. Any reservation, any questioning, any query expressed means you simply must want to overthrow Cortese and chuck out the Leibherrs. Otherwise you are without conviction.

 

 

Its either unquestioning love or sworn enemy. No middle ground for our mentalists.

 

almost cult like, yes?

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Can't stand the ****. He's another Rupert Lowe.

 

What really annoys me is how spineless the majority of our fans are. Last week when Adkins was sacked everybody was full of ideas about protests. When it came to the crunch they sang Adkins name and didn't show any kind of strength or solidarity with a Protest aimed at the chairman. How many times are we going to allow ourselves to be ****ed over by the likes of NC? I hate to say it but we're a joke of a club and an embarrassment. All talk and no action. Supporters of clubs must look at us and **** themselves laughing. The reason things like this keep happening at Saints is because the fans let it happen. They talk a good game and then accept it as if nothing has ever happened.

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Pro. Can't argue with his results. Don't miss the dark ages. And we are progressing.

 

How can you say that? What if Saints get relegated? Is that progression? An Argentinian manager with his fancy Spanish football trying to get out of the Championship... I don't think so.

 

Cortese is a bell end. possibly a bigger bell end than Rupert Lowe. I have a horrible feeling that his decision will backfire horrendously. i wonder how our spineless supporters will react when it finally sinks in that they've been ****ed over by another moronic chairman?

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In summary ... last Friday (for understandable emotional reasons) the vast majority of posters to this forum were inclined towards extreme bed wetting and white hanky waving.

 

However, having reflected over the weekend, a large proportion have suddenly had a flash of inspiration and now recognised Don Cortese as the cast iron second coming of Christ born in human form to live amongst us in Southampton.

Rejoice!

 

Someone has to be wrong - the choice is yours.

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