Junction 9 Posted 26 January, 2013 Share Posted 26 January, 2013 Federer 5-2 and on serve. Another f**king false dawn for British tennis... Its very hard for us Brits to live up to someone like you, who has already given this country the greatest gift it will ever have. You left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junction 9 Posted 26 January, 2013 Share Posted 26 January, 2013 Federer 5-2 and on serve. Another f**king false dawn for British tennis... Its very hard for us Brits to live up to someone like you, who has already given this country the greatest gift it will ever have. You left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 26 January, 2013 Author Share Posted 26 January, 2013 also, throw in the ridiculous shreeking/grunting..... It's not so bad in general. A lot of players don't grunt... it's just a few of the top ones do. Sharapova etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 26 January, 2013 Share Posted 26 January, 2013 The glass jaw will still fail him in the final. Similar to what happened at the US Open no? Just accept at this moment, Murray is the 2nd best player in the world, not too far behind Djokovic either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 27 January, 2013 Share Posted 27 January, 2013 A Tweet for Alps Mike Dickson @Mike_Dickson_DM Beats me what is negative about speculating re how many Slams Murray can win. Tribute to him that it used to be 'can he' now its 'how many?' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jawillwill Posted 27 January, 2013 Share Posted 27 January, 2013 Murray has won the first set. Another f**king false dawn for Serbian tennis... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Ringwood Saint Posted 27 January, 2013 Share Posted 27 January, 2013 Murray just blown three break points in the second though..! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 27 January, 2013 Author Share Posted 27 January, 2013 Absolutely nothing between them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 27 January, 2013 Author Share Posted 27 January, 2013 Long way back for Murray now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 27 January, 2013 Share Posted 27 January, 2013 comfortably beaten when it matters as usual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 27 January, 2013 Author Share Posted 27 January, 2013 comfortably beaten when it matters as usual. You're such a troll! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 27 January, 2013 Share Posted 27 January, 2013 You're such a troll! was he or was he not comfortably beaten as he usually is when gets to a final? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 27 January, 2013 Share Posted 27 January, 2013 was he or was he not comfortably beaten as he usually is when gets to a final? got a good start but then Djokovic turned up the wick and crushed him. Murray slowed down a lot, result of his foot problem perhaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 27 January, 2013 Author Share Posted 27 January, 2013 was he or was he not comfortably beaten as he usually is when gets to a final? He was beaten by the better player today. And there is no shame in losing to Djokovic. You can't judge pre 2012 Murray against this Murray. He's a totally new and improved player. And he has a Slam. Which he had to beat Djokovic in the final for. And an Olympic gold, which he had to beat Federer in the final for. Men's tennis is all about Murray and Djokovic atm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 27 January, 2013 Share Posted 27 January, 2013 comfortably beaten when it matters as usual. Yep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 27 January, 2013 Share Posted 27 January, 2013 He was beaten by the better player today. And there is no shame in losing to Djokovic. You can't judge pre 2012 Murray against this Murray. He's a totally new and improved player. And he has a Slam. Which he had to beat Djokovic in the final for. And an Olympic gold, which he had to beat Federer in the final for. Men's tennis is all about Murray and Djokovic atm. 5 final losses. 1 final win. Always the bridesmaid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 27 January, 2013 Share Posted 27 January, 2013 5 final losses. 1 final win. Always the bridesmaid. 20% grand slam final win record. Poor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 27 January, 2013 Author Share Posted 27 January, 2013 20% grand slam final win record. Poor. It's actually 1/6, so less than that percentage. But that's beside the point, to even be competing up there you have to be the world class athlete he is, but there was little he could do today against Djokovic in the end. As for you quantifying that his Grand Slam record his poor... he is consistently in the latter stages and has presently made 3 finals in a row now, and if he ends up with 2-3 grand slams at the end of his career(which he will do imo), that is an achievement. Also, for comparison to your 'poor' jibe... in comparison to whom - Federer or Nadal?!(where are your stats for people at similar times in their careers) I don't think anyone here is trying to claim Murray is an all-time great... just that he is a world-class tennis player, but you seem too blinded by your own biased views to admit that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robsk II Posted 27 January, 2013 Share Posted 27 January, 2013 Unlucky fed. If you were a few years younger you would have destroyed him. That is an excellent point. Federer should be allowed to go through to the final because he was better than Murray three years ago. When we lose to Man Utd on Wednesday, we should be allowed to have the three points because in a few years time our team will be a lot better. Saying that, United were better when they had Schmeichel and Cantona so maybe they should just be awarded the points because their team were a lot better than ours fifteen years ago and we don't need to bother playing the game at all. As for the Euro referendum, it's a load of horse-****, isn't it? At the end of the day, we were better than Germany over two legs seventy years and more ago, so basically we should get to decide what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 28 January, 2013 Share Posted 28 January, 2013 5 final losses. 1 final win. Always the bridesmaid. So not always? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 28 January, 2013 Share Posted 28 January, 2013 It's actually 1/6, so less than that percentage. But that's beside the point, to even be competing up there you have to be the world class athlete he is, but there was little he could do today against Djokovic in the end. As for you quantifying that his Grand Slam record his poor... he is consistently in the latter stages and has presently made 3 finals in a row now, and if he ends up with 2-3 grand slams at the end of his career(which he will do imo), that is an achievement. Also, for comparison to your 'poor' jibe... in comparison to whom - Federer or Nadal?!(where are your stats for people at similar times in their careers) I don't think anyone here is trying to claim Murray is an all-time great... just that he is a world-class tennis player, but you seem too blinded by your own biased views to admit that. He's been lucky to play at a time when Federer is in decline and Nadal has had injury after injury. He only has one real challenger. He should make every final at the moment if he gets a decent draw and avoids Djokovic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 28 January, 2013 Share Posted 28 January, 2013 He's been lucky to play at a time when Federer is in decline and Nadal has had injury after injury. He only has one real challenger. He should make every final at the moment if he gets a decent draw and avoids Djokovic. or he has been unlucky to play when federer was in his peak and nadal was not injured...? those two would probably dominate any era Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 28 January, 2013 Share Posted 28 January, 2013 or he has been unlucky to play when federer was in his peak and nadal was not injured...? those two would probably dominate any era This is nonsense Jamie, there have alwasy been great players. Just in my years of watching tennis there has been McEnroe, Connors, Borg, Lendell, Becker, Agassi, Samprass, Effenburg. Federer has been a fantastic player, maybe the best ever and is a real gentlemen but he's in his 30's now. Whatever era Murray had played at he'd have had to beat great players. No conincidence that his run of finals has come when Nadal has been out and Federer getting on a bit. I do laugh at the Murray lovers claims that he's just been unlucky to play at a time when there were players better than him. :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 28 January, 2013 Share Posted 28 January, 2013 This is nonsense Jamie, there have alwasy been great players. Just in my years of watching tennis there has been McEnroe, Connors, Borg, Lendell, Becker, Agassi, Samprass, Effenburg. Federer has been a fantastic player, maybe the best ever and is a real gentlemen but he's in his 30's now. Whatever era Murray had played at he'd have had to beat great players. No conincidence that his run of finals has come when Nadal has been out and Federer getting on a bit. I do laugh at the Murray lovers claims that he's just been unlucky to play at a time when there were players better than him. :lol: im not a murray lover...just think he is a bloody good player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 28 January, 2013 Share Posted 28 January, 2013 im not a murray lover...just think he is a bloody good player He is a good player and i'm starting to warm to him a bit, you're not the first person to say he's been unlucky to play at at time where there were better players aroud though. There have alwasy been great players around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 28 January, 2013 Share Posted 28 January, 2013 He is a good player and i'm starting to warm to him a bit, you're not the first person to say he's been unlucky to play at at time where there were better players aroud though. There have alwasy been great players around. agree..but not as great as these two....nadal alone would be better than most... anyway, murray was the first to say that he would not have pushed himself as much as he has if there was no fed or nadal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 28 January, 2013 Share Posted 28 January, 2013 agree..but not as great as these two....nadal alone would be better than most... anyway, murray was the first to say that he would not have pushed himself as much as he has if there was no fed or nadal It's impossible to compare different eras of players. Murray lovers say if he'd played in any other era he'd have won more, it's impossible to say, the Andy Murray that plays today might have but Andy Murray in 1985 wouldn't have had access to all the things Andy Murray in 2013 has to improve his fitness and ability. Same as if you took Bjon Borg and gave him all the things Murray has access to today, of course he'd be fitter, stronger,better because the training, diet, technology and sports science today is far better than when he played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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