Wes Tender Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 I do think our fitness will improve now though, too often we were getting tired in the second half of games. Would be great to get back to where we were under Strachan. I fear that Nigel still had a bit to learn about the level of training required at the top level, which is surprising for a physio. There are several players who came back from their holidays at the start of the season, or who joined us as transfers in and who looked overweight. After a few weeks, they were noticeably slimmer and fitter. Lambert is one prime example and Boruc is another. But you're probably right in what you infer, that they're not actually fitter, but maybe have just been on a diet instead. The benefit of having a manager with a background as a physiotherapist, is that he is more likely not to rush players back from injuries until they're fully healed, or to provide an exercise regime that is likely not to cause injuries to them. I just hope that with the new guy, these aspects and also the dietary side of things aren't overlooked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 23 January, 2013 Author Share Posted 23 January, 2013 There are several players who came back from their holidays at the start of the season, or who joined us as transfers in and who looked overweight. After a few weeks, they were noticeably slimmer and fitter. Lambert is one prime example and Boruc is another. But you're probably right in what you infer, that they're not actually fitter, but maybe have just been on a diet instead. The benefit of having a manager with a background as a physiotherapist, is that he is more likely not to rush players back from injuries until they're fully healed, or to provide an exercise regime that is likely not to cause injuries to them. I just hope that with the new guy, these aspects and also the dietary side of things aren't overlooked. of course it is....his 'background' in being a physio at s****horpe god knows how long ago is far more crucial than a massive sports science department have a word with yourself he was an ex keeper...still managed to screw that up completely... adkins did so many wonderful things, there is no need to make stuff up or exagerate things to big him up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 of course it is....his 'background' in being a physio at s****horpe god knows how long ago is far more crucial than a massive sports science department have a word with yourself he was an ex keeper...still managed to screw that up completely... adkins did so many wonderful things, there is no need to make stuff up or exagerate things to big him up And neither is there any reason to belittle his accomplishments. If he's qualified in a discipline such as that, what has the passage of time got to do with anything? In case you didn't know, he had to retire from being a keeper through injury. Who compared his medical background against the importance of sports science? Oh, you did. Do try a little harder to come up with something better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 NA was never the problem, it was our pathetic and complacent failure to strengthen in key positions over the summer. Can't see our new manager sticking around next year if we need to yoyo back to the Premiership. No, the sacking of NA could compromise the yoyo policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ART Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 I am pretty sure over the past few months Les Reed would have been sounding out all of the players as to how they felt about Nigel's abilities, whether the club would do well to bring in someone else. I don't believe Morgan would be alone in his thinking. Let's face it, a couple of months back Nigel's tactics, especially his substitutions, had little support from most of the fans too. Maybe it's early days but wasting 12 million on Gaston seems a huge folly. He seems pretty poor in most games and this would have cast doubts on Nigel's ability to get the most out of such a player. Time will tell but I don't hold out much hope of him improving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 23 January, 2013 Author Share Posted 23 January, 2013 And neither is there any reason to belittle his accomplishments. If he's qualified in a discipline such as that, what has the passage of time got to do with anything? In case you didn't know, he had to retire from being a keeper through injury. Who compared his medical background against the importance of sports science? Oh, you did. Do try a little harder to come up with something better. i really cannot comprehend how adkins being a qualified physio means he is better at judging a player coming back from injury is an actual point....is he what, better than fergie, wenger, martinez..? in reality, they ALL use their vastly expensive sports science departments (that adkins himself used to bang on about) rather than having a look at him running around some cones or by giving him a rub down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 i really cannot comprehend how adkins being a qualified physio means he is better at judging a player coming back from injury is an actual point....is he what, better than fergie, wenger, martinez..? in reality, they ALL use their vastly expensive sports science departments (that adkins himself used to bang on about) rather than having a look at him running around some cones or by giving him a rub down Ok, I'll accept that you find it difficult to comprehend some things and we'll leave it at that, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSaint Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 I said at the weekend that I thought that some of the players had been consulted well in advance of the change - all the more likely because Cortese (and, thus, Reed) wouldn't have any qualms about undercutting the manager if they thought he wasn't up to it. But, unpleasant as it may be, that's a sensible thing to do, especially if you can't afford the change to adversely impact performance at such a critical time. I just get the sense that there might be a bit of a split in the dressing room, with some very sad (and possibly angry) to see Nigel go, and some not at all sad. That's certainly not unusual in this kind of situation but it does throw some spins into the situation. Who fits where is anyone's guess right now. Other than with Morgan. He seems buoyed by the change, and almost seems to have become the Cortese-approved spokesman for the players. Correct me if I'm wrong but he seems to be doing a lot more talking to the media than he has before, and I can't see that being allowed to happen unless it's part of "the plan". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 I said at the weekend that I thought that some of the players had been consulted well in advance of the change - all the more likely because Cortese (and, thus, Reed) wouldn't have any qualms about undercutting the manager if they thought he wasn't up to it. But, unpleasant as it may be, that's a sensible thing to do, especially if you can't afford the change to adversely impact performance at such a critical time. I just get the sense that there might be a bit of a split in the dressing room, with some very sad (and possibly angry) to see Nigel go, and some not at all sad. That's certainly not unusual in this kind of situation but it does throw some spins into the situation. Who fits where is anyone's guess right now. Other than with Morgan. He seems buoyed by the change, and almost seems to have become the Cortese-approved spokesman for the players. Correct me if I'm wrong but he seems to be doing a lot more talking to the media than he has before, and I can't see that being allowed to happen unless it's part of "the plan". Don't think we should go down this "Morgan is happy that NA is gone avenue" because it's probably not accurate. He's always been a bit of a press favourite at Saints, always done his fair share of pressers. Some do more than others. I know, well I'm aquainted with anyway, people who know Morgan and the only echo I've ever had of a rift between him and NA is when he was dropped after a successful France U21 outing, he didn't like it and probably told NA so, but that was 2 years ago..He's a young man who just wants to play football . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ottery st mary Posted 25 January, 2013 Share Posted 25 January, 2013 Having caught a glimpse of Morgan in goal during training:) Suggest he would find a better career between the sticks;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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