Thedelldays Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 With MP in charge A bit in the sun how after hearing what the new boss wants and his ideas. Can only see saints getting better and better Usual stuff when a new bloke comes in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 We were getting even better under Adkins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wild-saint Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 i think this is an honest answer and backs up a little snippet that morgan and one or 2 others werent happy under nigel. one or two senior players were definately spoken to about plans to change the manager 2/3 weeks ago from what i gather. morgan was keen to move but was convinced that a planned change to managment was iminent. heard a few bits from different sources that tend to support this rumour. fully expect to get abused from all and sundry on here but thought it was worth mentioning to see if anyone else had heard similar rumblings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armchair Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 The end product has to improve so I am sure this will be a focus in training and we will soon see a difference. Adkins got the players "scanning" but perhaps forgot to mention that they then have to do something with ball! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 i think this is an honest answer and backs up a little snippet that morgan and one or 2 others werent happy under nigel. one or two senior players were definately spoken to about plans to change the manager 2/3 weeks ago from what i gather. morgan was keen to move but was convinced that a planned change to managment was iminent. heard a few bits from different sources that tend to support this rumour. fully expect to get abused from all and sundry on here but thought it was worth mentioning to see if anyone else had heard similar rumblings. Thanks for that, you're probably right about it as it would make sense. You'd certainly think if Forren knew about it then a few of the senior squad members might well have been spoken to. It's pretty evident that that a change had been on the cards for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 23 January, 2013 Author Share Posted 23 January, 2013 We were getting even better under Adkins. But Morgan think we will get EVEN better Certainly better than winning 3 home games and letting so many leads slip Time will tell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 23 January, 2013 Author Share Posted 23 January, 2013 Thanks for that, you're probably right about it as it would make sense. You'd certainly think if Forren knew about it then a few of the senior squad members might well have been spoken to. It's pretty evident that that a change had been on the cards for a while. I wonder if it occurred to anyone that members of the squad felt that Adkins was no the future? I know that will get dismissed but could be true Seems odd that our best player gets dropped now and then, our star signing in and out of the team and position and the gazza situation.??? No basis for that, just an idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 I wonder if it occurred to anyone that members of the squad felt that Adkins was no the future? I know that will get dismissed but could be true Seems odd that our best player gets dropped now and then, our star signing in and out of the team and position and the gazza situation.??? No basis for that, just an idea We'll never know, but it could be true. Most of us found some of Adkins team selections, substitutions and tactics baffling at times so maybe the players did as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintbob40 Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 Get Cork, Morgan, Shaw on 5 year contracts. Extend Rickie up to the age of 33. I think we already have Adam, JWP, Yoshida, Clyne, Ramirez and Jay Rod buttoned down. Thats the basis of a pretty good premiership team in years to come as these lads will only get better with age and experience. Stay up and we will thrive. I think the biggest danger is the manager brings in 3/4 new (and foreign) players now and we disrupt the side too much..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 Or gamble with a new manager and buy new players also on high wages,. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 We were getting even better under Adkins. Yes I agree with you Wes The interesting point is now are we going to get much better with Mo Po only time will tell We have had a good run recently as I think you are suggesting but of course good runs often end Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 But Morgan think we will get EVEN better Certainly better than winning 3 home games and letting so many leads slip Time will tell Yes, we should get even better because we will sign new players to improve the squad. But Adkins was denied seeing how he might have fared with those new players. As you say, time will tell, but I've made my opinion clear. If we don't do better than the position that Pochettino inherited, especially with extra players brought in to strengthen the squad, then that will be failure in my eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 Listening to Morgan speaking it is pretty clear he has no regrets at all about the old management team being given the heave-ho. If this comes as a great relief for him than fine as Morgan Schneiderlin has been for several years and will continue to be the heart-beat of the new young Saints. I've banged on for years that he WILL BE the new Robert Pires and he is becoming that now; let's face it every bugger and his dog will want the guy in their teams and as soon as it nears contract time the offers will flood in. This is one player we cannot afford to lose ever and in my humble opinion if we do lose him this team will collapse like a pack of cards. Rupert Lowe brought him in and for that single act of vision should be thanked although even for me that's a mighty hard pill to swallow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norwaysaint Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 If the players are genuinely happy with the change then that has to be the most important thing. We liked Adkins, but charisma doesn't necessarily mean that he's the best manager. I'd love to really know the players' honest opinions, but we're never going to hear that too publicly. Obviously some people might get to hear something, but information gets so mixed up with bull**** on here that it's hardly surprising nothing is really trusted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 I thought originally that Adkins would not hack in the PL based soley on his ability to bring in decent players as I feel only about 50% have been truly successful but he did pretty well and 15th position when he left was very creditable and I thought he could keep us in the PL this season. However with Pochettino who probably has better contacts than Adkins we may get in players which will truly enhance the team. I think think Cortese's interpersonal skills are having a particularly bad affect on the club if only he could be more fan friendly and tells us more things would be better I am not suggesting that he should do a Nick Clegg and appear weekly on Radio but a begginning of the season and end of season fans meeting would possibly be a good idea to listen to fans concerns and aspirations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 23 January, 2013 Author Share Posted 23 January, 2013 Yes, we should get even better because we will sign new players to improve the squad. But Adkins was denied seeing how he might have fared with those new players. As you say, time will tell, but I've made my opinion clear. If we don't do better than the position that Pochettino inherited, especially with extra players brought in to strengthen the squad, then that will be failure in my eyes. See, I have always thought we were going down with Adkins. Constant dropping of points and weird subs at time (and not in others) The whole gazzaniga thing was embarrassing when we had not only 1 but 2 better keepers at the club. One of which has played at the very highest level and now had international recognition after having a run in the team So if we stay up under MP, I personally will see that as progress Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 I thought originally that Adkins would not hack in the PL based soley on his ability to bring in decent players as I feel only about 50% have been truly successful but he did pretty well and 15th position when he left was very creditable and I thought he could keep us in the PL this season. However with Pochettino who probably has better contacts than Adkins we may get in players which will truly enhance the team. You're making this judgement after we just signed a new defender on the very same day we announced a new manager? I think its quite clear in this case that "the committee" minus the former manager put the Forren deal in motion. Perhaps with little input from the new manager. So it lends a hand as to what our future transfer strategy may be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToreSF Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 i think this is an honest answer and backs up a little snippet that morgan and one or 2 others werent happy under nigel. one or two senior players were definately spoken to about plans to change the manager 2/3 weeks ago from what i gather. morgan was keen to move but was convinced that a planned change to managment was iminent. heard a few bits from different sources that tend to support this rumour. fully expect to get abused from all and sundry on here but thought it was worth mentioning to see if anyone else had heard similar rumblings. Interesting. Could understand how some of the players would wish for a bit more advanced manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 (edited) Always thought Morgan thrived under Adkins and became one of his favourite and most important players. Without hindsight, still don't think Adkins made too many bad decisions: dropping Lambert made sense away from home where we needed to counterattack and have a bit of pace to keep defensive highlines honest. The rotation of keepers had some logic: Boruc was no way near match fit when he started - anyone who went to Upton Park for his debut would have seen that -and the Gazza thing was an extension of NA's philosophy that you have to give young players space to learn and mistakes. If Cortese has aspirations of bringing through academy, he'll realise that you can't have your cake and eat it and need to give younger players a longer leash. Finally, the subbing of players was a way of bringing on fresh legs. Old manager or new manager, we've shown we can't maintain a high-tempo game for 90mins. And Ramirez largely moved to the wing (or out of position) AFTER Lallana got injured. That said, if it's true that the players were having misgivings, it does put Cortese's behavior in context, though you would also have to believe that those misgivings have existed for a while as Cortese's been plotting for months and months. But, ultimately, its hard to have someone managing a football team where key players are not totally sold on where things are going. I guess we'll never really know. Edited 23 January, 2013 by shurlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tisspahars Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 Listening to Morgan speaking it is pretty clear he has no regrets at all about the old management team being given the heave-ho. If this comes as a great relief for him than fine as Morgan Schneiderlin has been for several years and will continue to be the heart-beat of the new young Saints. I've banged on for years that he WILL BE the new Robert Pires and he is becoming that now; let's face it every bugger and his dog will want the guy in their teams and as soon as it nears contract time the offers will flood in. This is one player we cannot afford to lose ever and in my humble opinion if we do lose him this team will collapse like a pack of cards. Rupert Lowe brought him in and for that single act of vision should be thanked although even for me that's a mighty hard pill to swallow Top class player though Morgan is, and always has been, it would be very difficult to come up with a player less like him than Robert Pires. Maybe Brad Freidel. Maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/372608/Morgan-Schneiderlin-s-looking-up-with-Mauricio-Pochettino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 Yes, we should get even better because we will sign new players to improve the squad. But Adkins was denied seeing how he might have fared with those new players. As you say, time will tell, but I've made my opinion clear. If we don't do better than the position that Pochettino inherited, especially with extra players brought in to strengthen the squad, then that will be failure in my eyes. True but I think we will, my main sadness when Adkins left was for him as a person and the way he was treated, it wasnt necesarilly because I thought he coukd take us to Europe etc. He made an aweful lot of mistakes I felt, and himself cost us a few points. Yes he was learning but he isnt quite the polished article at thislevel yet. He never really got Rickie in the right positions often enough, in fact I have said a few times I just dont think he has had a great season so far but mainly because we have not played a way that gets the best out of him. Ramirez too, why oh why was he not played in his best position more often ? He is such a player, and Monday showed how good he is when used properly. A couple of games too, Utd and Stoke spring to mind, we didnt need to go defensive yet that is what happened and invited pressure, esp when we were not on top as a defensive unit anyway and Davis was in goal. It was a good start Monday, and I know that you cant tell all from one game but his tactics were spot on, we were working so hard and he seemingly was getting the best out of our two best attacking players in Gaston and Rickie. If he gets time to work on us we will start to look V good. A few transfers too and we could be purring. Thats the other thing too, Poch has a big name for himself in the game, players will come to him where they perhaps wouldnt for Adkins Anyone who comes personally recommended by Balague (sp) and Mourinho is no mug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 Spider has been here long enough to see new managers come and go more often than Alps posts something negative, so I am not really surprised he is not too troubled by the change Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 See, I have always thought we were going down with Adkins. Constant dropping of points and weird subs at time (and not in others) The whole gazzaniga thing was embarrassing when we had not only 1 but 2 better keepers at the club. One of which has played at the very highest level and now had international recognition after having a run in the team So if we stay up under MP, I personally will see that as progress You contradict yourself, but can't see it apparently. In the first three lines, you make a case for how in your opinion Adkins made poor decisions which would lead to us being relegated. And then in the last line, you say that you would credit MP as being a success if we only manage survival in the Premiership, even though Adkins had us currently in 15th place with a 3 point margin over the first relegation spot. And the team has already been strengthened with Forren and is expected to be further strenghthened with some really classy players from Spain/Argentina/Brazil. You set the bar really low and I suspect that Cortese is expecting much more than you. I had forecast us for 10th place at the start of the season and reckon that with additional signings in this window, we would still have achieved it under Adkins. That is probably why anything less than 15th will be a failure in my eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 23 January, 2013 Author Share Posted 23 January, 2013 Either way wes. I thought we were going to get relegated with Adkins So if we stay up with this new guy, IMO that would be one better the what Adkins would have achieved with us this season I think I have always said Adkins would likely take us down.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 We would never have finished 10th under Adkins this year, and IMHO would never have got the players we potentially could be in line for now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 Most normal people thought staying up would be a success this season and then push on next. I maintain that we would have done this with Adkins (although i must admit i thought we'd go down 10 games in) and that we will do this with MP. I still expect us to stay up relatively comfortably with 4 wins and 3 draws now enough from our last 15 games to reach 38 point, which IMO will be enough. This should be easily achievable and i'd expect us to finish around 15 or 16th. I wont cosider MP a faliure is we finish below or where we are now, that is utterly ridiculous. Although if we go down then it'll have been a disaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 You contradict yourself, but can't see it apparently. In the first three lines, you make a case for how in your opinion Adkins made poor decisions which would lead to us being relegated. And then in the last line, you say that you would credit MP as being a success if we only manage survival in the Premiership, even though Adkins had us currently in 15th place with a 3 point margin over the first relegation spot. And the team has already been strengthened with Forren and is expected to be further strenghthened with some really classy players from Spain/Argentina/Brazil. You set the bar really low and I suspect that Cortese is expecting much more than you. I had forecast us for 10th place at the start of the season and reckon that with additional signings in this window, we would still have achieved it under Adkins. That is probably why anything less than 15th will be a failure in my eyes. I expect Cortese couldn't give a toss what he, you or i think. HTH Les. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 23 January, 2013 Author Share Posted 23 January, 2013 Most normal people thought staying up would be a success this season and then push on next. I maintain that we would have done this with Adkins (although i must admit i thought we'd go down 10 games in) and that we will do this with MP. I still expect us to stay up relatively comfortably with 4 wins and 3 draws now enough from our last 15 games to reach 38 point, which IMO will be enough. This should be easily achievable and i'd expect us to finish around 15 or 16th. I wont cosider MP a faliure is we finish below or where we are now, that is utterly ridiculous. Although if we go down then it'll have been a disaster. Just guessing. I bet wes was telling us all how wonderful everything was when we were 18th and how 17th was a brilliant season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 Improving all the time... Will get even better without a doubt. As long as he stays with the mighty Saints.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 ....anybody remember what the senior players had to say when we let Chris Nichol go and brought in Ian Branfoot... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 Fluuuucking Hells Bells Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 One of my mates from Bolton reckons Ole Gunnar Solskjaer was interviewed for the job a few weeks back and turned it down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 Just guessing. I bet wes was telling us all how wonderful everything was when we were 18th and how 17th was a brilliant season? Well, all you'd need to do is have a look back over my recent posts to see that I've never said that, but if it makes you feel happy to believe that, then fill your boots. The prediction of 10th was what I had forecast before the first ball was kicked this season. It isn't too far removed from what Norwich and Swansea achieved in their first season after promotion and I considered that we were better than them at the same stage. Even now, we are only 6 points away from 10th and whether we get there rather depends on what signings we make before the transfer window closes and also naturally how those teams around us perform. We have an opportunity to take points away from them to improve our position. I see that Turkish feels confident that we could finish up 15th or 16th, when Adkins already had us in 15th, but he will not factor in that maybe two or three players will be brought in to strengthen the team, which is why I think it is fair to say that anything less than what Adkins has managed to achieve with what would logically be regarded as a weaker team than the one we finish the season with can be regarded as a failure. If Pochettino can't improve on the position he inherited from Adkins with a strengthened squad, then what exactly would be the point in bringing him in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 We would never have finished 10th under Adkins this year, and IMHO would never have got the players we potentially could be in line for now We will never know. But we can make comparisons between what Adkins achieved in the first half of the season, against what Pochettino achieves in the second half. Bear in mind also that getting us to 15th included the very difficult run when the players were getting used to the step-up in quality in this division; a baptism of fire. Now they are much more aware of what is required and are accordingly more comfortable and confident than they were as a result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 Most normal people thought staying up would be a success this season and then push on next. I maintain that we would have done this with Adkins (although i must admit i thought we'd go down 10 games in) and that we will do this with MP. I still expect us to stay up relatively comfortably with 4 wins and 3 draws now enough from our last 15 games to reach 38 point, which IMO will be enough. This should be easily achievable and i'd expect us to finish around 15 or 16th. I wont cosider MP a faliure is we finish below or where we are now, that is utterly ridiculous. Although if we go down then it'll have been a disaster. Can't say fairer than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 23 January, 2013 Author Share Posted 23 January, 2013 We will never know. But we can make comparisons between what Adkins achieved in the first half of the season, against what Pochettino achieves in the second half. Bear in mind also that getting us to 15th included the very difficult run when the players were getting used to the step-up in quality in this division; a baptism of fire. Now they are much more aware of what is required and are accordingly more comfortable and confident than they were as a result. But Adkins had the very best run of home games any team could hope for.... And we won 2 of them... (After the villa win some time before) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 But Adkins had the very best run of home games any team could hope for.... And we won 2 of them... (After the villa win some time before) to be fair we should have won at least 2 others in that run but we didn't ...thanks to Adkins. If we had had Boruc between the sticks from day 1 we'd probably be on about 30 points by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 to be fair we should have won at least 2 others in that run but we didn't ...thanks to Adkins. If we had had Boruc between the sticks from day 1 we'd probably be on about 30 points by now.Well, he didn't arrive here until we'd already played 5 matches. And then presumably you'd throw him in at the deep end regardless of whether he was match fit and had no time to get to know his defence on the training ground? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 Well, he didn't arrive here until we'd already played 5 matches. And then presumably you'd throw him in at the deep end regardless of whether he was match fit and had no time to get to know his defence on the training ground? No I meant if we had signed him in the summer and he had had the full pre-season with us and then started at City. To me not signing a number 1 keeper in May was at the root of all our subsequent troubles . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 But Adkins had the very best run of home games any team could hope for.... And we won 2 of them... (After the villa win some time before) As you're going all the way back to the Aston Villa match at home, we might as well include it, eh? So our home form including that match and the following ones, is 3 wins, 5 draws and two losses. Amongst the draws are those against Arsenal and Everton. Both good points, wouldn't you say? OK, the draws against Swansea, Norwich and Fulham might have gone either way, but Swansea and Norwich are arguably very much like us and have produced upsets against the glory teams, so a draw against them is not unreasonable. You make a point of saying that since the first Villa match we have only won two matches, but then again we have only lost two as well. We perhaps ought to have beaten Sunderland, but would you have expected us to beat Spurs? And as this period covers 19 matches, i.e. half a season, then logically every other team has also had a very similar run of home games too. See, you can spin this however you want, depending on whether you want to show it in a good light or a poor one. No bother guessing which way you're leaning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 No I meant if we had signed him in the summer and he had had the full pre-season with us and then started at City. To me not signing a number 1 keeper in May was at the root of all our subsequent troubles . Had we signed Michu in the Summer, just think where we could have been now. All very well to look at these things in hindsight and without knowledge of what the situation was at that time and furthermore whose fault it was that somethings didn't happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 Still think we could have at least stolen a draw at Manure and a win at stoke should we have kept playing the way we were playing instead of trying (and failing) to go defensive despite the fact we are or atleast were terrible in that area. Messing about with Boruc, keeping faith in Davis and failing to play in a way that would get the best out of Lambert and Ramirez ? I think he would probably keep us up but certainly our future is with a bigger name IMHO The run up to WBA was dire, and even in our decent run we had abject performances Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 Had we signed Michu in the Summer, just think where we could have been now. All very well to look at these things in hindsight and without knowledge of what the situation was at that time and furthermore whose fault it was that somethings didn't happen. Hindsight ? There were some of us saying we needed a new number 1 keeper last spring, how is that hindsight? Davis was never,ever good enough for the PL, he wasn't good enough for the NPC on occasions and don't go on about players voting for him, they don't think and many of them wouldn't even have seen him play more than twice in the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Lion Tamer Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 ....anybody remember what the senior players had to say when we let Chris Nichol go and brought in Ian Branfoot... This is a good point. Player unrest could be a sign that the manager is no good, but on the other hand it isn't a popularity contest. If the manager is pushing the players hard then the players may not like it but it could be good for performances. Let's see how popular Poccy is after a few months of hard training. I do think our fitness will improve now though, too often we were getting tired in the second half of games. Would be great to get back to where we were under Strachan. I fear that Nigel still had a bit to learn about the level of training required at the top level, which is surprising for a physio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Lion Tamer Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 Edit: ignore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 (edited) This is a good point. Player unrest could be a sign that the manager is no good, but on the other hand it isn't a popularity contest. If the manager is pushing the players hard then the players may not like it but it could be good for performances. Let's see how popular Poccy is after a few months of hard training. I do think our fitness will improve now though, too often we were getting tired in the second half of games. Would be great to get back to where we were under Strachan. I fear that Nigel still had a bit to learn about the level of training required at the top level, which is surprising for a physio. But I thought the players trained super hard and were super fit ? Is that just a myth then or did I miss Nigel telling me in one of his homely homilies that they just hung around the pool and drank beer all day long ? In fact wasn't it said at one time that we sacked Pardew because he pushed the players too hard in pre-season and they ran to Nicola telling tales out of school? Edited 23 January, 2013 by Window Cleaner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 This is a good point. Player unrest could be a sign that the manager is no good, but on the other hand it isn't a popularity contest. If the manager is pushing the players hard then the players may not like it but it could be good for performances. Let's see how popular Poccy is after a few months of hard training. I do think our fitness will improve now though, too often we were getting tired in the second half of games. Would be great to get back to where we were under Strachan. I fear that Nigel still had a bit to learn about the level of training required at the top level, which is surprising for a physio. Schneiderlin's latest missive with the press: “We can see already that he wants us to play a high-tempo game with a lot of pressure, And that is good because we are all very fit and we can do what he wants.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 I think he would probably keep us up but certainly our future is with a bigger name IMHO Who did you have in mind? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 Just guessing. I bet wes was telling us all how wonderful everything was when we were 18th and how 17th was a brilliant season? He was certainly telling us how wonderful everything was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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