Horton Heath Saint Posted 22 January, 2013 Share Posted 22 January, 2013 Poche who cant speak English, has to send our fitness coach to send out tactics to players???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 22 January, 2013 Share Posted 22 January, 2013 Madness!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 22 January, 2013 Share Posted 22 January, 2013 His English isn't as bad as is being made out. The assistant manager does speak good English, but watched the game from the stands in order to have a better view of the pitch from higher up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 22 January, 2013 Share Posted 22 January, 2013 His English isn't as bad as is being made out. The assistant manager does speak good English, but watched the game from the stands in order to have a better view of the pitch from higher up. how do you know? How bad has it been made out to be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golac's Cunning Stunts Posted 22 January, 2013 Share Posted 22 January, 2013 His English isn't as bad as is being made out. The assistant manager does speak good English, but watched the game from the stands in order to have a better view of the pitch from higher up. How do you know this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 22 January, 2013 Share Posted 22 January, 2013 how do you know? I thought people didn't need to reveal their sources these days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 22 January, 2013 Share Posted 22 January, 2013 Poche who cant speak English, has to send our fitness coach to send out tactics to players???? Didn't seem to have any negative affect last night. I am meh about the whole language issue tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alehouseboys Posted 22 January, 2013 Share Posted 22 January, 2013 Poche who cant speak English, has to send our fitness coach to send out tactics to players???? Well, it seems our 'Poche' can speak better English than maybe he's letting on (did you see him chatting with Rickie last night?) just not enough to avoid getting tied up in knots by the English media. His side-kicks can also speak very good English, maybe our fitness coach was just a familiar go-between with the players on an important night? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 22 January, 2013 Share Posted 22 January, 2013 How do you know this? Because Adam Blackmore mentioned it during the commentary on BBC Radio Solent and I saw it on the Saints Player extended highlights earlier today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golac's Cunning Stunts Posted 22 January, 2013 Share Posted 22 January, 2013 Didn't seem to have any negative affect last night. I am meh about the whole language issue tbh Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 22 January, 2013 Share Posted 22 January, 2013 Because Adam Blackmore mentioned it during the commentary on BBC Radio Solent and I saw it on the Saints Player extended highlights earlier today. mentioned what? I dont recall anyone apart from people on here saying he cant speak English, in fact the fella from Sky Spain said he can speak it. I dont recall it being "made out" to be bad at all.who said it was? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 22 January, 2013 Share Posted 22 January, 2013 i expect his has a translator app on his iphone, that'll sort it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Saint Posted 22 January, 2013 Share Posted 22 January, 2013 Mauricio do you want to talk in English?" MP: "I understand English, but I still need to work on my vocabulary and confidence. Okay, lets talk in Spanish." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 22 January, 2013 Share Posted 22 January, 2013 mentioned what? I dont recall anyone apart from people on here saying he cant speak English, in fact the fella from Sky Spain said he can speak it. I dont recall it being "made out" to be bad at all.who said it was? I was referring to the assistant being in the stands. Lots in the media are making a mountain out of a molehill about his level of English. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 22 January, 2013 Share Posted 22 January, 2013 Why? ^ This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 22 January, 2013 Share Posted 22 January, 2013 I was referring to the assistant being in the stands. Lots in the media are making a mountain out of a molehill about his level of English. Did they? Like who? Who "made out" his English was bad? What mountains were made out of molehills? Cant remember any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 22 January, 2013 Share Posted 22 January, 2013 Mauricio do you want to talk in English?" MP: "I understand English, but I still need to work on my vocabulary and confidence. Okay, lets talk in Spanish." Primary non-anecdotal evidence doesn't win any points on the Saintsweb forum thank you very much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 22 January, 2013 Share Posted 22 January, 2013 Why? Because I don't think it is going to be a long term issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shirleysfc Posted 22 January, 2013 Share Posted 22 January, 2013 mentioned what? I dont recall anyone apart from people on here saying he cant speak English, in fact the fella from Sky Spain said he can speak it. I dont recall it being "made out" to be bad at all.who said it was? Nixon said he couldn't on Twitter last week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 22 January, 2013 Share Posted 22 January, 2013 Nixon said he couldn't on Twitter last week. twitter? A tweet. Wow, that really is a mountain out of molehill!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 22 January, 2013 Share Posted 22 January, 2013 Did they? Like who? Who "made out" his English was bad? What mountains were made out of molehills? Cant remember any. That Peter Simon chap on Bid TV got a bit flustered about it last night. He was selling pots and kettles at the time so understandable he lost his composure a little I guess. Preferred him on kids TV myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 22 January, 2013 Share Posted 22 January, 2013 Did they? Like who? Who "made out" his English was bad? What mountains were made out of molehills? Cant remember any. I will readily state that I was under the impression that he didn't speak a word of it, so I must have got it from somewhere. In fact last night I was wondering why he was yelling stuff at the touchline if he couldn't communicate with most of the players, until after the game where my mate who sits near the dugouts said he was speaking (and shouting) in English throughout. As for the pre-match interview with interpreter and note-taking on Sky, that was an absolute bleeding debacle, and he must have known how bad it would look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonist Posted 22 January, 2013 Share Posted 22 January, 2013 how do you know? How bad has it been made out to be? His adaptability rating in FM13 is 3 That's about 6 points higher than Capello. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 22 January, 2013 Share Posted 22 January, 2013 Probably from here The 9. I dont recall anyone in the meida "making out" it was or "making mountains out of molehills" Apart from on here obviously. A few people might have mentioned it briefly, but there was no media wide "the Argie cant speak the lingo" bandwagon like MLG is making out. As I said, his mate on Sky Spain said he speaks the language so he would know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wild-saint Posted 22 January, 2013 Share Posted 22 January, 2013 he can speak english. a friend who works for the club spoke to him for around 10 mins on friday afternoon when he was introduced to the staff. fact Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 22 January, 2013 Share Posted 22 January, 2013 Probably from here The 9. I dont recall anyone in the meida "making out" it was or "making mountains out of molehills" Apart from on here obviously. A few people might have mentioned it briefly, but there was no media wide "the Argie cant speak the lingo" bandwagon like MLG is making out. As I said, his mate on Sky Spain said he speaks the language so he would know. As it happens, I saw a comment from Matthew Le Tissier (not that one, the poster on here) saying "my only criticism is that he can't speak English" in another thread just now. I didn't come on here that much last Friday so not sure I did get it from here - and also I know better than to believe anything on here. Pretty sure the translation element of the press conference on Friday is where the "myth" was built. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 22 January, 2013 Share Posted 22 January, 2013 As it happens, I saw a comment from Matthew Le Tissier (not that one, the poster on here) saying "my only criticism is that he can't speak English" in another thread just now. I didn't come on here that much last Friday so not sure I did get it from here - and also I know better than to believe anything on here. Pretty sure the translation element of the press conference on Friday is where the "myth" was built. So it was little more than a mongboard rumour then. No one "making out" it was bad or "making mountains out of molehills" as MLG states. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 22 January, 2013 Share Posted 22 January, 2013 So it was little more than a mongboard rumour then. No one "making out" it was bad or "making mountains out of molehills" as MLG states. alan brazil breakfast how Keys and gray....also, didnt Lawrie mac say he cant speak the lingo....? H+J Durham have spent tome going on about him not being able to speak english....until someone phoned up durham and said he can....then durham said he was a bottler for not speaking english to sky but pretty much all day, they featured the idea that he cant speak english.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 22 January, 2013 Share Posted 22 January, 2013 how do you know? How bad has it been made out to be? Languages spoken: Spanish (fluent), Italian, English (basic) perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 22 January, 2013 Share Posted 22 January, 2013 alan brazil breakfast how Keys and gray....also, didnt Lawrie mac say he cant speak the lingo....? H+J Durham have spent tome going on about him not being able to speak english....until someone phoned up durham and said he can....then durham said he was a bottler for not speaking english to sky but pretty much all day, they featured the idea that he cant speak english.... Glad I don't listen to that shoit all day then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 22 January, 2013 Share Posted 22 January, 2013 Languages spoken: Spanish (fluent), Italian, English (basic) perhaps? That could be said for half the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 22 January, 2013 Share Posted 22 January, 2013 MP was talking to the players before and during the game and to the subs as they came on. Didn't seem to have any trouble making himself understood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 22 January, 2013 Share Posted 22 January, 2013 alan brazil breakfast how Keys and gray....also, didnt Lawrie mac say he cant speak the lingo....? H+J Durham have spent tome going on about him not being able to speak english....until someone phoned up durham and said he can....then durham said he was a bottler for not speaking english to sky but pretty much all day, they featured the idea that he cant speak english.... Yet everyone chose to ignore his mate in Spain who said he can and instead chose to believe a load of helmets on the radio who are know for spouting bollo cks and anti Saints stuff. Mongboard logic strikes again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 22 January, 2013 Share Posted 22 January, 2013 So it was little more than a mongboard rumour then. No one "making out" it was bad or "making mountains out of molehills" as MLG states. I think the consensus was that he didn't speak English and it came from him not speaking English in the press conference. I'm not bothered enough to go and track down a load of press reporting from Friday about it, as I don't really care. I had assumed he didn't speak English from the press conference and I'm sure many people from the media who didn't already know him may have thought the same and could have reported it as such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shirleysfc Posted 22 January, 2013 Share Posted 22 January, 2013 twitter? A tweet. Wow, that really is a mountain out of molehill!!! Bore off Turks. What's happened to you? You used to be funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 22 January, 2013 Share Posted 22 January, 2013 Actually sod it, here's one : http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2265624/Southamptons-new-boss-Mauricio-Pochettino-needs-interpreter-speak-English.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 22 January, 2013 Share Posted 22 January, 2013 I think the consensus was that he didn't speak English and it came from him not speaking English in the press conference. I'm not bothered enough to go and track down a load of press reporting from Friday about it, as I don't really care. I had assumed he didn't speak English from the press conference and I'm sure many people from the media who didn't already know him may have thought the same and could have reported it as such. HIs Spanish pal said he speaks English, surely he is the one who should be listened too. Yet every seems to have taken ALan friggin Brazils word for it over someone who has know the guy for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 22 January, 2013 Share Posted 22 January, 2013 Actually sod it, here's one : http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2265624/Southamptons-new-boss-Mauricio-Pochettino-needs-interpreter-speak-English.html So now we believe the "Daily Fail" (PMSL) do we? Only a couple of days ago this was a sh*t paper full of lies. Now we take it as gospel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 22 January, 2013 Share Posted 22 January, 2013 alan brazil breakfast how Keys and gray....also, didnt Lawrie mac say he cant speak the lingo....? H+J Durham have spent tome going on about him not being able to speak english....until someone phoned up durham and said he can....then durham said he was a bottler for not speaking english to sky but pretty much all day, they featured the idea that he cant speak english.... Same people who "thought" there would be all out mutiny by the supporters last night. Got that wrong too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 22 January, 2013 Share Posted 22 January, 2013 And here's Sky Sports saying "Speaking in Spanish, Pochettino insisted that his inability to communicate in English would not limit his immediate impact at Southampton, saying "Sometimes the language of football is more gestural than vocal". http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11700/8425896/Mauricio-Pochettino-looks-to-La-Liga-to-achieve-ambitious-project-at-Southampton Two sources from a quick Google basically saying he doesn't speak English (or that there are "fears" he doesn't speak it, to cover the Mail's ar5e). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alehouseboys Posted 22 January, 2013 Share Posted 22 January, 2013 His lack of speech was probably down to the (as the Solent 'tater put to him after last night) "tumultuous welcome" he got from the fans. "Tumultuous welcome"? he was probably speechless at how sh*te the atmosphere is at English grounds these days, last night was shocking again. When you come from a country where the support is like this... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELj7ozC3iLo (miles from the pitch and no roof - nice to see River Plate wearing our old kit btw) ...England's gonna come as a bit of a disappointment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 22 January, 2013 Share Posted 22 January, 2013 Bore off Turks. What's happened to you? You used to be funny. :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 22 January, 2013 Share Posted 22 January, 2013 Same people who "thought" there would be all out mutiny by the supporters last night. Got that wrong too! No, there were only ever a couple of ex-SISA members, max, who were going to do the hankie thing. As far as I could tell everyone else thought it was going to be a pointless idea and as they couldn't even be ar5ed to use the white paper towels in the Northam loos which were RIGHT THERE, it was obvious on arriving that nothing was happening regarding that other than in McMillan and his mates' (mate's?) mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 22 January, 2013 Share Posted 22 January, 2013 So now we believe the "Daily Fail" (PMSL) do we? Only a couple of days ago this was a sh*t paper full of lies. Now we take it as gospel. I've never said anything about the Mail's accuracy, but it certainly meets MLG's criteria of the media (the Mail is part of the media, as are Sky Sports), "making out" that he couldn't speak English. And the Mail itself is most definitely making a "mountain out of a molehill" by mentioning "fears" and using language of panic, and as even you have pointed out, they're not known for their accuracy. So you'll just have to accept you're wrong on this one and MLG is right. I'm sure you can be the bigger man and step away from the discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint si Posted 22 January, 2013 Share Posted 22 January, 2013 Well his ability / inability to speak English is being mentioned, referenced in basically every article (sometimes just casual and factual, and sometimes more critically). Unless you are being deliberately obtuse, it is plainly obvious that much has been made of this. Examples: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21132250 "There are 20 minutes to kick-off at St Mary's. Mauricio Pochettino is probably reciting a rousing speech to his new troops now, only to have to wait for 30 seconds after each stanza for his translator to convey the emotion in English. I never thought that as an Englishman I would be able to hold the upper hand on languages, but Mauricio Pochettino needs to raise his game and get enrolled at the local college." "Pochettino is now having a tete a tete with Rickie Lambert in the middle. I think he speaks more English than he lets on. Pochettino that is, not Lambert..." http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21081886 "Every answer, other than a brief hello in English was provided by an interpreter, but Pochettino said communication would be no issue with his players. "Football is an international language," he said." http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21079956 "What does he know about the dressing room, does he speak English?" (quoting Lawrie Mac) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 22 January, 2013 Share Posted 22 January, 2013 I've never said anything about the Mail's accuracy, but it certainly meets MLG's criteria of the media (the Mail is part of the media, as are Sky Sports), "making out" that he couldn't speak English. And the Mail itself is most definitely making a "mountain out of a molehill" by mentioning "fears" and using language of panic, and as even you have pointed out, they're not known for their accuracy. So you'll just have to accept you're wrong on this one and MLG is right. I'm sure you can be the bigger man and step away from the discussion. If a "mountain out of molehill" is one line in an article then yes they did do that. Although it seems you've all be fooled into believing bullsh*t stories in papers where it is known they have an anti Saints agenda and not trusting his mate in Sky Spain who confirmed he can speak it. Shame on you all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 22 January, 2013 Share Posted 22 January, 2013 From the BBC report on the game... " On the sidelines communication seemed a major issue, as Pochettino does not speak good English. Strength and conditioning coach Nick Harvey appeared to be helping to pass on instructions to the players. Towards the end of the game it appeared to become a signficant problem." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 22 January, 2013 Share Posted 22 January, 2013 Yet everyone chose to ignore his mate in Spain who said he can and instead chose to believe a load of helmets on the radio who are know for spouting bollo cks and anti Saints stuff. Mongboard logic strikes again. so, the media did make out he cant speak english...? many of the papers did...since as we now believe what we read and all that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 22 January, 2013 Share Posted 22 January, 2013 Well his ability / inability to speak English is being mentioned, referenced in basically every article (sometimes just casual and factual, and sometimes more critically). Unless you are being deliberately obtuse, it is plainly obvious that much has been made of this. Examples: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21132250 "There are 20 minutes to kick-off at St Mary's. Mauricio Pochettino is probably reciting a rousing speech to his new troops now, only to have to wait for 30 seconds after each stanza for his translator to convey the emotion in English. I never thought that as an Englishman I would be able to hold the upper hand on languages, but Mauricio Pochettino needs to raise his game and get enrolled at the local college." "Pochettino is now having a tete a tete with Rickie Lambert in the middle. I think he speaks more English than he lets on. Pochettino that is, not Lambert..." http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21081886 "Every answer, other than a brief hello in English was provided by an interpreter, but Pochettino said communication would be no issue with his players. "Football is an international language," he said." http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21079956 "What does he know about the dressing room, does he speak English?" (quoting Lawrie Mac) So the BBC specualte on what might be going on in the Saints dressing room and Lawrie Mc comments on the lingustic ability of a man he confesses he has never heard of. Yes compelling evidence. :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 22 January, 2013 Share Posted 22 January, 2013 If a "mountain out of molehill" is one line in an article then yes they did do that. Although it seems you've all be fooled into believing bullsh*t stories in papers where it is known they have an anti Saints agenda and not trusting his mate in Sky Spain who confirmed he can speak it. Shame on you all. I see the hook and I'm swimming in the other direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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