stug76 Posted 22 January, 2013 Share Posted 22 January, 2013 I really believe that things have changed, I have thought it for while, but now I really believe it. We are going places people, enjoy the ride! Top 6 finishes and a bigger stadium. Competing with the big boys on transfers. It's all coming our way. Can't wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 22 January, 2013 Share Posted 22 January, 2013 dream on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 22 January, 2013 Share Posted 22 January, 2013 What tipped the balance for you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 22 January, 2013 Share Posted 22 January, 2013 dream on Life is a dream Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 22 January, 2013 Share Posted 22 January, 2013 I refuse to believe it until we see the Stadium Expansion Thread back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 22 January, 2013 Share Posted 22 January, 2013 I refuse to believe it until we see the Stadium Expansion Thread back Which one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golac's Cunning Stunts Posted 22 January, 2013 Share Posted 22 January, 2013 What tipped the balance for you? Looks like a 0-0 draw with Everton did it for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 22 January, 2013 Share Posted 22 January, 2013 Which one? hehehe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 22 January, 2013 Share Posted 22 January, 2013 Life is a dream Interesting philosophical point. You could be correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alehouseboys Posted 22 January, 2013 Share Posted 22 January, 2013 Nigel who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doggface Posted 22 January, 2013 Share Posted 22 January, 2013 Calm down, not even close to being safe yet. Another big month coming up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red&white56 Posted 22 January, 2013 Share Posted 22 January, 2013 Why the conversion now ? Can't see how getting a new manager impacts some of the things you now believe will happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stug76 Posted 22 January, 2013 Author Share Posted 22 January, 2013 I don't think that there's one particular thing that has convinced me. Up until recent events, I've always had a belief that there was a plan, but everyone has a plan. But not everyone gets linked with £10m defenders, or Brazilian Internationals - well we certainly never have before. The way the the manager was changed was ruthless, but it was also, in a way, impressive. The sort of action that would be taken by someone who knows what he wants. The new guy is a step up in terms of "clout" for want of a better word. He appears to be in the Cortese mould, believes in what we have going on and wants to be part of it. I wouldn't be surprised if he got us into the top half competing for Euro places and then got the sack for a better, more high profile manager to come in. There's one consistent since the takeover, whenever someone has come in, they always mention that the club has a vision and that they want to be part of it. Now you could dismiss that as media hype or club PR, but everyone says it. It's not the fans are great, or I love the city or the manager, it's always the vision that the club has. I know it was dismissed by a lot of people, but the DVD that contained the images of a developed stadium wasn't done for fun. It would have been part of some preliminary study on the feasibility of expansion, presumably with other options being looked at including a new stadium. It's all these things. But as much as that, the first half against Everton was very impressive. It showed that we have the nucleus of a very good team, a young team with some excellent players. New players will come in, and they will be better than what we have. We are going to be comfortable in the league and we are going to get better. COYS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bender Posted 22 January, 2013 Share Posted 22 January, 2013 Got a strange feeling we're gonna get a couple of killer signings before the windows out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bananaman Posted 22 January, 2013 Share Posted 22 January, 2013 Solipsism ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSFC Posted 22 January, 2013 Share Posted 22 January, 2013 People finally coming round....Atkins great a job as he did and as nice a bloke he was I always had the impression he wasn't actually ambitious enough or in fact his judgement of players standards in terms of ability was not actually high enough. Cortese is shooting for the very top..I get the impression that MP is that way inclined (he was an international so does have high achievement in his history)....whereas NA was at the peak of his achievements in life. Improving on that would have been hard for him (perhaps) and maybe that is a major part of the reason for him going. High achievers do not go for rides on a bus....they go in chartered planes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 22 January, 2013 Share Posted 22 January, 2013 Just, wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stug76 Posted 22 January, 2013 Author Share Posted 22 January, 2013 Just, wow. Just, wow........because.....? Just, wow........good? Just, wow........I don't agree so I'll post a meaningless comment...? Just, wow........it could never happen.... ?? You've got to do better than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 22 January, 2013 Share Posted 22 January, 2013 If it is "happening", the only thing we've got to go on so far that's any different from last week is firing a decent English manager and acquiring a potentially decent Argentinian one. Not sure how anyone can draw any other conclusions, we already knew about the plans, the ambition and the Liebherrs being loaded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colehillsaint Posted 22 January, 2013 Share Posted 22 January, 2013 People finally coming round....Atkins great a job as he did and as nice a bloke he was I always had the impression he wasn't actually ambitious enough or in fact his judgement of players standards in terms of ability was not actually high enough. Cortese is shooting for the very top..I get the impression that MP is that way inclined (he was an international so does have high achievement in his history)....whereas NA was at the peak of his achievements in life. Improving on that would have been hard for him (perhaps) and maybe that is a major part of the reason for him going. High achievers do not go for rides on a bus....they go in chartered planes. Yes actually. I did think that Neil Atkins did not have a very impressive continental sounding name, which probably didn't allow him to think big enough for a top 4 potential club like us, and MP 's initials are well like an MP, and they rule the country, like we can rule Europe , so he is bound to be more ambitious like us. How do I pledge all my income to the club and where are we going for this years summer camp? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stug76 Posted 22 January, 2013 Author Share Posted 22 January, 2013 If it is "happening", the only thing we've got to go on so far that's any different from last week is firing a decent English manager and acquiring a potentially decent Argentinian one. Not sure how anyone can draw any other conclusions, we already knew about the plans, the ambition and the Liebherrs being loaded. What do you think about the plans? Do you think we will achieve it? I think you've hit the nail on the head with your comment "firing a decent English manager". The English isn't important, but the "decent" is. If you are willing to settle for survival, you don't sack decent managers. IF you want to move on to the "next level" you fire decent managers and get in a better one. Only time will tell if Pochettino is better than Adkins but you couldn't argue that Adkins was decent and I don't think NC has replaced him with what he thinks is a worse option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gis Posted 22 January, 2013 Share Posted 22 January, 2013 NCs ambition has astonished me, I thought we were ripe for sell on by the Liebherr legacy at the end of last season. Or if not, at the end of this season (after Adkins had kept us up, which I'm sure he would have)........but it looks as though the journey is far from over. Buying Forren who was being seriously looked at by clubs of the stature of Liverpool and Everton adds a bit more evidence. Much of what went on last week makes sense if with MP in charge we can attract these 'killer signings'. It will all be much clearer if Saints sign one or two big names before the end of the month, or during the summer break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 22 January, 2013 Share Posted 22 January, 2013 What do you think about the plans? Do you think we will achieve it? I think you've hit the nail on the head with your comment "firing a decent English manager". The English isn't important, but the "decent" is. If you are willing to settle for survival, you don't sack decent managers. IF you want to move on to the "next level" you fire decent managers and get in a better one. Only time will tell if Pochettino is better than Adkins but you couldn't argue that Adkins was decent and I don't think NC has replaced him with what he thinks is a worse option. It's pretty obvious Cortese won't have been downgrading in his mind, whether that turns out to be the case, only time will tell. I can't see any particular reason at this stage to feel any different to where we already were other than some latent negativity about the sacking of Adkins, to be honest. Pretty much the only thing that will change that are exceptional results and a massive improvement in the standard of players we attract. Ironic considering when we appointed Adkins, my concern was whether he could attract top half Prem players even if we got here... one near as dammit best case scenario later, and here's the evidence that Cortese probably felt the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 22 January, 2013 Share Posted 22 January, 2013 Solipsism ?? If it is, he's obviously imagining me thinking about the same rosy future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washsaint Posted 22 January, 2013 Share Posted 22 January, 2013 Don't want to be a Debbie Downer but is anyone else concerned with how we are going to fund all these "dream signings"? After seeing the mess the Skates made of things down the road with their big spending, etc. I would hate for us to end up in the same boat. I just can't see where all this money is coming from or whether the house is being bet on staying up this season. We certainly can't compete financially with our limited capacity (that we don't even sell out on a regular basis). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggles31 Posted 22 January, 2013 Share Posted 22 January, 2013 The ambition is certainly there. If we stay up the transfer window in August will show our real intent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rut Posted 22 January, 2013 Share Posted 22 January, 2013 I wouldn't be surprised if he got us into the top half competing for Euro places and then got the sack for a better, more high profile manager to come in You need to bookmark this. I can see the outrage already 'how the hell can Pochy get the sack - he's been our best manager ever'. Good thread (I don't think you are taking the p#ss?) and an interesting point of view - one I'm quite happy to buy into. I've never really liked Cortese but people like that don't do things to win popularity contests. He ain't stupid - he knew the fans would be unhappy in the short term. Just like a lot of them were 'Nigel who?' when Adkins was appointed 'we wanted someone good not some lower league physio'. It's a big gamble but you have to assume that he (Cortese) knows what he is doing. Thanks to the Markus Liebherr money there appears to be a long term plan here. It's happening! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 Lets keep this little pearler of excitement and quite frankly a gluttonous self absorbed thread, lets be classy and keep our feet on the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadgerBadger Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 Oh no, people have been assimulated into the collective, resistance is futile........ One step at a time glory hunters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 [video=youtube_share;nZaYEniPaJg] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PercyR Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 This probably deserves it's own thread but with the revelation that Mourinho advised the club on MP's appointment could it be possible that Mourinho is being lined for a return to the EPL with Saints and that MP will either stand aside or work alongside him when, and if he comes here? Just a thought...exciting times if true... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 This probably deserves it's own thread but with the revelation that Mourinho advised the club on MP's appointment could it be possible that Mourinho is being lined for a return to the EPL with Saints and that MP will either stand aside or work alongside him when, and if he comes here? Just a thought...exciting times if true... :lol::lol::lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 Bloody hell some of you are miserable bastards. In his opinion the balance has been tipped. Yes we have all heard the plans for the club, but it is always taken with a pinch of salt as there have been false dawns before. But now with the raw ambition of NC being shown perhaps we really are looking at pushing ourselves forward into the next group of teams and upwards. Bit disappointed that some of the more erudite posters on this board have decided to post pointless remarks on a thread that is someone's opinion (it's not even a negative/outlandish thing to say). Let him enjoy the ride even if you don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 This probably deserves it's own thread but with the revelation that Mourinho advised the club on MP's appointment could it be possible that Mourinho is being lined for a return to the EPL with Saints and that MP will either stand aside or work alongside him when, and if he comes here? Just a thought...exciting times if true... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diggers Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 This is one of the most embarrassing threads I've ever seen on this forum. I know football fans are notoriously fickle but this takes it to new levels. Get a grip you're showing yourselves up. I hope no other teams fans get hold of this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 People finally coming round....Atkins great a job as he did and as nice a bloke he was I always had the impression he wasn't actually ambitious enough or in fact his judgement of players standards in terms of ability was not actually high enough. Cortese is shooting for the very top..I get the impression that MP is that way inclined (he was an international so does have high achievement in his history)....whereas NA was at the peak of his achievements in life. Improving on that would have been hard for him (perhaps) and maybe that is a major part of the reason for him going. High achievers do not go for rides on a bus....they go in chartered planes. Get out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintbob40 Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 What tipped the balance for you? 34 tins of ace lager? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andre Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 I love the optimism, but I think the best we can hope for in the short-term is a top half finish, which IMO would be brilliant considering the oft-cited double promotion. Cortese and the board need to just have a little bit of patience to let Pochettino get to grips with the team and build the long-term future, and maybe one day we can be looking to push the likes of Everton, Tottenham, Arsenal and Newcastle for the Europa League places. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
September Saint Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 We are 4 points above relegation with 15 games to go. Reading and QPR have upped their (admittedly poor) game. Tough matches ahead. I'll feel safe when we are in a much stronger position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svetigpung Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 arhhh the big dream. lucky for us no other team have thought of that. by the way, we are still in the middle of a relegation dog fight with some other teams, some awful but now picking up some points , and some not so bad, as ourselves. Where does this fit in with the big dream? Now we just have have to survive this season. With the new management team in place, relegation would be a bigger disaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dangermouth Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 Ah. Nice to see how already we now sound like Chelsea with our plastic this and plastic that and suddenly waking up to splashing the cash to buy league position. In the first piece I read about NC it was said that he looked at the bare trophy cabinet and said that it would have to be filled. So the ambition was there from day one. That said, people can't read/think/adapt their own shortcomings and 'opinions' and so would always just spout the guff they come out with, so of course as they can't retain information and can't process it what was effectively a direct quote, and might even have been that, was ignored for "I hope we can survive in the fizzy pop league". Again, it is patently obvious that NA is every bit as ambitious as NC, if possible more so; again you actually need to take notice of what is said and not simply hear/read/see what you want or can, but perhaps his failings are that he is 'too nice' with it and you have to be a bastard to succeed and success is all that counts so that 'we' can crow and laugh at others less fortunate than ourselves because they don't have money to spend. To repeat what so many have said, what chance does anyone have when you look at your bench with the aim of improving your team's performance and SDR looks back up at you...? Margaret Thatcher RIP, your work is done ... . I think that MP will get rid of a lot of dead wood in the summer and we will have a good squad with which to challenge for a CL place next year. No one wants the Europa because it's crap and second-rate, even if people talk it up - people (including parents - see the BBC today) apparently 'lie'. I would like to see the likes of Isgrove and Chambers and others tried out or moved on in the next 2 years, however, because otherwise the academy won't be doing its job and we won't be anything other than a clone of other PL clubs. We do also need to produce players of only LS' calibre or above really or they won't be good enough for a top 4 side. That won't happen quickly or easily. Finally, MP has already come in line with the way of thinking of everyone else (e.g. those in the press) and said that survival is this year's goal and next year the push for progression will be the emphasis which leads to another set of questions. Nice to see Turkish has a new avatar; the old one needed changing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horley CTFC Saint Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 What tipped the balance for you? Sacking a manager who by general consensus has done a pretty good job is a fairly definate statement of intention! The OP could be right but it could all still go pair shaped as well - somehow I don't think it will though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericb Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 For some reason everytime i read posters going on about champions league etc. I can't help but picture themselves in my head Sisyphus type characters, doomed to the dream they've been sold and not enjoying the reality we have because of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stug76 Posted 29 September, 2013 Author Share Posted 29 September, 2013 Though that I'd bring this up to date. Nothing has changed for me - it's still happening! Great transfer window, linked with some very exciting players and getting some of them too. The season has started well and we look solid, good teams are built on good defences. It's good to see that the "togetherness" is still there - we haven't scored many but when we do the whole team celebrate, this team enjoys playing together. No stadium expansion....yet and given what is being spent on some of the staff facilities at the stadium I can't see it being ripped down anytime soon. I'm certainly enjoying the ride, is everyone else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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