The Red Bag Posted 22 January, 2013 Posted 22 January, 2013 LM is the guest on Keys and Gray after 12pm today....
trousers Posted 22 January, 2013 Posted 22 January, 2013 LM is the guest on Keys and Gray after 12pm today.... Cheers for the heads up....can't imagine how this one will pan out....
Suhari Posted 22 January, 2013 Posted 22 January, 2013 Would be good to hear him talk about the old days. And make no mention at all of his views on the current situation. Yeah, right.
Dig Dig Posted 22 January, 2013 Posted 22 January, 2013 I'm sure we all know what will be said, there will be absolutely no surprises.
Saint Charlie Posted 22 January, 2013 Posted 22 January, 2013 (edited) He was on Solent yesterday and was disrespectful to MP just because he has never heard of him. Three years Management in La Liga is not to be sniffed at. "It's not as if they have brought [Jose] Mourinho or [Pep] Guardiola in," 76-year-old McMenemy told BBC Sport. "They have brought in a chap, with due respect he might be a nice man and a very good coach, but who nobody has heard of. It is a terrific risk." He said this: "We don't know anything about the man coming in," he said. "We don't know what reaction the players will have. Then immediately contradicted himself: "The players will give everything. There is not doubt about that Ok then. Maybe Paul Jewell would have been better because you know him? Edited 22 January, 2013 by Saint Charlie
Lord Duckhunter Posted 22 January, 2013 Posted 22 January, 2013 It'll be a rant about NC, followed by stories about KK's light, the rascals, Mick Channon saying this is my hobby ect
Matthew Le God Posted 22 January, 2013 Posted 22 January, 2013 He was on Solent yesterday and was borderline xenophobic IMO. "Nobody has heard of the new lad" meaning "I havent heard of him. Paul Jewell is available blah blah blah". Did he seriously suggest Paul Jewell?
stevegrant Posted 22 January, 2013 Posted 22 January, 2013 A dinosaur of the modern game... interviewing Lawrie McMenemy Let's face it, we know exactly what's going to be said and how it's going to be said before the broadcast has even begun
trousers Posted 22 January, 2013 Posted 22 January, 2013 First up is a moan about Pochittino needing his interpreter in the technical area.... Thought they might talk about the decent result first up...
Dig Dig Posted 22 January, 2013 Posted 22 January, 2013 Opens up talking about MP's need for translator straight away and how he was breaking the rules by being the technical area. Now taking the **** out of MP. Good stuff, good PR for the club.
pap Posted 22 January, 2013 Posted 22 January, 2013 He was on Solent yesterday and was borderline xenophobic IMO. Ah, just projection of his own ignorance on the matter. He'd never heard of him, so no-one has ever heard of him.
Lord Duckhunter Posted 22 January, 2013 Posted 22 January, 2013 I never saw the interpreter in the technical area last night.
Saint Charlie Posted 22 January, 2013 Posted 22 January, 2013 Did he seriously suggest Paul Jewell? No - he didnt, but thats probably what he thought.
Matthew Le God Posted 22 January, 2013 Posted 22 January, 2013 I never saw the interpreter in the technical area last night. Nick Harvey the fitness coach was being used to get the message to players alot.
Saint Charlie Posted 22 January, 2013 Posted 22 January, 2013 Ah, just projection of his own ignorance on the matter. He'd never heard of him, so no-one has ever heard of him. Exactly.
Dellman Posted 22 January, 2013 Posted 22 January, 2013 Lawrie Mac has managed to forget that when he was appointed no onehad heard of him, he was from Grimsby (I think) and his only job had been failure at Doncaster, if my distant memory is correct. He is from another age
Saint Charlie Posted 22 January, 2013 Posted 22 January, 2013 Would LM rather that no messages had been passed to players? Will he also be annoyed when Bayern have a translator for Guardiola? He is showing himself up to be a wally.
Lord Duckhunter Posted 22 January, 2013 Posted 22 January, 2013 Lawrie needs to get his facts right, Nigel never brought Rickie in.
Dig Dig Posted 22 January, 2013 Posted 22 January, 2013 Still no mention of last night's game... Except for the interpretator being in the technical area
Tokyo-Saint Posted 22 January, 2013 Posted 22 January, 2013 And some people say he was our best ever manager (Que MLG with the stats to show he was). He really is a dinosaur and managed in the era of Big Ron, causal racism, smoky back rooms and back handers. He wouldn't last 10 minutes in the modern game, Adkins was far superior.
Dig Dig Posted 22 January, 2013 Posted 22 January, 2013 And some people say he was our best ever manager (Que MLG with the stats to show he was). He really is a dinosaur and managed in the era of Big Ron, causal racism, smoky back rooms and back handers. He wouldn't last 10 minutes in the modern game, Adkins was far superior. Wrath of the crusties coming your way mate.
Tokyo-Saint Posted 22 January, 2013 Posted 22 January, 2013 Wrath of the crusties coming your way mate. If they are anything like the lost farmers they have been digging up for SSN interviews recently, I am ready.
pingwing Posted 22 January, 2013 Posted 22 January, 2013 So he's angry and a xenophobic on the radio... This modern radio invention has some running themes
Lord Duckhunter Posted 22 January, 2013 Posted 22 January, 2013 And some people say he was our best ever manager (Que MLG with the stats to show he was). He really is a dinosaur and managed in the era of Big Ron, causal racism, smoky back rooms and back handers. He wouldn't last 10 minutes in the modern game, Adkins was far superior. Dont talk rubbish man. I suppose Bobby Moore would get skinned nowadays, or Stan Matthews would be behind Steve De Ridder in the pecking order. Ted and Larwie are head and shoulders above any other manager we've ever had....Fact
Saint Charlie Posted 22 January, 2013 Posted 22 January, 2013 Talksport really is dire though. The presenters are terrible, chatter even worse, guests moronic. The only good things are the Selco adverts (its where the trade go) and dare I say it Stan Collymore who actually does some research.
View From The Top Posted 22 January, 2013 Posted 22 January, 2013 And some people say he was our best ever manager (Que MLG with the stats to show he was). He really is a dinosaur and managed in the era of Big Ron, causal racism, smoky back rooms and back handers. He wouldn't last 10 minutes in the modern game, Adkins was far superior. We has a fantastic manager for us, no doubt but the game has moved on & he hasn't.
Crowds Posted 22 January, 2013 Posted 22 January, 2013 Before my time as a saints fan, respect for what he did but FFS enjoy the free lunches tickets and speechs at over priced dinners and get old gracefully.... Moan moan moan
NickG Posted 22 January, 2013 Posted 22 January, 2013 Sounds like old guy struggling to keep up. Saying had a translator in technical box every time needed to talk to a player???!! Not how I saw it. Spoke to players one to one. Alone in tech area every time I looked. NA often had Crosby with him. Saying mp got sack in November then got appointed then! Any sacking of NA would be wrong. None of squad played in premier league before. NC wrong to win higher than 4th from bottom! There is real snobbery in the old football crowd. I am still not convinced we have improved manager, hope we have. Not happy with way it was done. But you cannot argue that NC is trying to improve the club and is willing to take tough decisions. Starting to think there is chance we will look back on this as same principal of likes of dean Hammond, good bloke, did great job, continually looking to improve.
Dig Dig Posted 22 January, 2013 Posted 22 January, 2013 If they are anything like the lost farmers they have been digging up for SSN interviews recently, I am ready. No doubt. You can identify them by their refusal to say Pochettino and will refer to him as "the new lad".
Lord Duckhunter Posted 22 January, 2013 Posted 22 January, 2013 We has a fantastic manager for us, no doubt but the game has moved on & he hasn't. That doesn't mean his achievements should be forgotten, and people can come out with rubbish.
Tokyo-Saint Posted 22 January, 2013 Posted 22 January, 2013 Dont talk rubbish man. I suppose Bobby Moore would get skinned nowadays, or Stan Matthews would be behind Steve De Ridder in the pecking order. Ted and Larwie are head and shoulders above any other manager we've ever had....Fact Is it a fact or is it your opinion? The game was simpler back then, less sports science, motivation has moved on from drinks together if we win, the pressures are greater, press attention is far greater, you can't just play 44fecking2 any more etc. That's not to say NA may not have struggled a bit in the 'good old days'. Back then, you probably had to be more a leader of men. I can't see Nigel out drinking many of the team. We has a fantastic manager for us, no doubt but the game has moved on & he hasn't. I agree with this.
stevegrant Posted 22 January, 2013 Posted 22 January, 2013 That doesn't mean his achievements should be forgotten, and people come out with rubbish. I don't think anybody has forgotten his achievements. He still remains the only manager to have won us a major trophy, that status won't change for some time. However, many of his opinions are massively outdated and as a result are largely irrelevant, IMO.
Junction 9 Posted 22 January, 2013 Posted 22 January, 2013 Talksport really is dire though. The presenters are terrible, chatter even worse, guests moronic. The only good things are the Selco adverts (its where the trade go) and dare I say it Stan Collymore who actually does some research. I'm on the go from job to job, I quote, I work, not time to stop, biut there's one place I go for stock. Get it straight from Selco. So let's just get it straight, they're this busy tradesman's mate, they're not just good they're flaming great! Get it straight from Selco. Selco, it's where the trade go. I hardly ever listen to Talksport.
View From The Top Posted 22 January, 2013 Posted 22 January, 2013 That doesn't mean his achievements should be forgotten, and people can come out with rubbish. I don't disagree. They do the same with MLT.
Lord Duckhunter Posted 22 January, 2013 Posted 22 January, 2013 I don't disagree. They do the same with MLT. But nobody slags his playing ability. Even Nigel Adkins himself would be embarrassed that somebody thought he did a better job than Lawrie.
Tokyo-Saint Posted 22 January, 2013 Posted 22 January, 2013 The best bit about talk sport is where Keys and Grey have to give info on what shed is on offer at Wicks or whatever. This really shows how far they have fallen. Bet every time they mention 2 for 1 emulation, they curse the day they went on about that birds tits.
RobM Posted 22 January, 2013 Posted 22 January, 2013 I don't think anybody has forgotten his achievements. He still remains the only manager to have won us a major trophy, that status won't change for some time. However, many of his opinions are massively outdated and as a result are largely irrelevant, IMO. IMO too. I'll always have respect for everything he has done for this club, that won't and shouldn't ever change. But he needs to shut up sometimes, his views are indeed outdated, unwelcome and unhelpful. Rather than try and stay relevant and important, he should be supportive of what the club is trying to do.
Lord Duckhunter Posted 22 January, 2013 Posted 22 January, 2013 Is it a fact or is it your opinion? The game was simpler back then, less sports science, motivation has moved on from drinks together if we win, the pressures are greater, press attention is far greater, you can't just play 44fecking2 any more etc. That's not to say NA may not have struggled a bit in the 'good old days'. Back then, you probably had to be more a leader of men. I can't see Nigel out drinking many of the team. . You are really clueless.
Hatch Posted 22 January, 2013 Posted 22 January, 2013 I don't think anybody has forgotten his achievements. He still remains the only manager to have won us a major trophy, that status won't change for some time. However, many of his opinions are massively outdated and as a result are largely irrelevant, IMO. About 17 Months I reckon is what you meant to say.
Lord Duckhunter Posted 22 January, 2013 Posted 22 January, 2013 Apart from winning the FA cup, getting to the League cup final, finishing runners up, signing the worlds best keeper, signing the European footballer of the year, bringing on youngsters and qualifying for Europe 3/4 times, what did Lawrie do for the club.
Tokyo-Saint Posted 22 January, 2013 Posted 22 January, 2013 You are really clueless. Or have a different opinion from you. They were different eras of the game. Apart from the 11 players and the ball, almost everything else is different. The change is not as great as the change in rugby but it is close. The player are the best from around the world now, not just around the country. The game is an international one, managers need to be motivators, tacticians, have a broad knowledge of football from around the world, sports scientists, at least a base knowledge of human biology, physiology, handle overpaid teenagers, over hyped players, huge egos bloated by 24 hour sports news, the big clubs are bigger, richer and have larger squads, the gulf between the teams has hugely increased etc etc I think Lawrie would struggle if he were a manager now. Therefore despite LM's achievements, for me NA is a better manager.
Saint Without a Halo Posted 22 January, 2013 Posted 22 January, 2013 Lawrie Mac has managed to forget that when he was appointed no onehad heard of him, he was from Grimsby (I think) and his only job had been failure at Doncaster, if my distant memory is correct. He is from another age As I recollect there were many well known managers out of work when Lawrie was brought in (as manager designate to Ted who had retired to all intents and purposes). He was a Guardsman and not really a top footballer (Blyth Spartans I think he played for) his only decent management experience was Grimsby! and he probably also needed an interpretor in his early days as no one understood Geordie in those pre Ant and Dec days! He immediately fell out with the senior players and moved a few on (Paine et al), , he managed to get us relegated in his first season from a secure and safe position of 6th at Christmas in 73/74 before he finally settled built a team won the Cup and gained promotion back again. So Pots and Kettles do come to mind!
OldNick Posted 22 January, 2013 Posted 22 January, 2013 Apart from winning the FA cup, getting to the League cup final, finishing runners up, signing the worlds best keeper, signing the European footballer of the year, bringing on youngsters and qualifying for Europe 3/4 times, what did Lawrie do for the club.he left us for Sunderland and we were left in limbo.
Dig Dig Posted 22 January, 2013 Posted 22 January, 2013 I'm on the go from job to job, I quote, I work, not time to stop, biut there's one place I go for stock. Get it straight from Selco. So let's just get it straight, they're this busy tradesman's mate, they're not just good they're flaming great! Get it straight from Selco. Selco, it's where the trade go. I hardly ever listen to Talksport. Look out for the big red building on Colden Green Road!!!
CB Fry Posted 22 January, 2013 Posted 22 January, 2013 he left us for Sunderland and we were left in limbo. Can't you just Move on?
Tokyo-Saint Posted 22 January, 2013 Posted 22 January, 2013 he left us for Sunderland and we were left in limbo. Where he was a massive failure - biggest they have ever had according to their fans. http://www.rokerreport.com/2011/10/18/2495879/top-ten-worst-safc-managers
Lord Duckhunter Posted 22 January, 2013 Posted 22 January, 2013 Therefore despite LM's achievements, for me NA is a better manager. If that's you're opinion, that's your opinion. My daughter thinks Little Mix are better than the Beatles, it's her opinion.
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