mcjwills Posted 20 January, 2013 Share Posted 20 January, 2013 You evidently haven't read the whole thread. Yes I did I just put a well reasoned response to all the bull on it :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 20 January, 2013 Share Posted 20 January, 2013 Yes I did I just put a well reasoned response to all the bull on it :-) So why were you arguing with me when we were saying the same thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 20 January, 2013 Share Posted 20 January, 2013 How many other people were the Liebherrs fighting off to buy the club, who else was in the background except a few tyre kickers. They put their money where their mouth is and I am convinced they saved us. NC (or whover actually owns SFC) are a million times better than PFC have ever had. I feel sorry for Nigel, his treatment is shabby at best but this occurs every day in big business and CEO's normally don't have a second thought once they have made up their minds for change. Don't lets drive the owners from the club by persistent protesting, we have to be careful what we wish for. Maybe I am lucky that in all my time working for a certain FTSE250 company, who have made a number of very tough decisions around people, we have always managed to do it in a far classier manner than SFC have done here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horley CTFC Saint Posted 20 January, 2013 Share Posted 20 January, 2013 Good point and Herbie Hatcher seems to have got away scott free with absolutely no criticism at all! Its a funny old world......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 20 January, 2013 Share Posted 20 January, 2013 Maybe I am lucky that in all my time working for a certain FTSE250 company, who have made a number of very tough decisions around people, we have always managed to do it in a far classier manner than SFC have done here. Quite. Treating people properly isnt only the right thing to do morally its the right thing to do for the business. Once you start to get a reputation as a shark the pool of staff loyalty starts to dry up and recuitment of the best in the field gets harder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 20 January, 2013 Share Posted 20 January, 2013 Quite. Treating people properly isnt only the right thing to do morally its the right thing to do for the business. Once you start to get a reputation as a shark the pool of staff loyalty starts to dry up and recuitment of the best in the field gets harder. 100%, people exit big business all the time. You can do it with dignity and class so all sides retain face. Most football clubs even give the slightly more dignified route of 'mutual consent', our Chairman would see this as a lack of strength. i have no problems with NC taking tough decisions, that's his job. I do however despise the complete lack of class and ultimately the bullying fashion which he displays when he exercises it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 20 January, 2013 Share Posted 20 January, 2013 They did not save Saints - they picked up a bargain. Your interpretation is not wrong you just need to look at it through another perspective Idiotic perspective - juvenile at best. The two positions you cite are clearly not exclusive. Or to put it in terms you and Turkish might understand, they picked up a bargain thus saving Saints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostBoys Posted 21 January, 2013 Share Posted 21 January, 2013 Bit late on this one. While NC is answerable to the Liebherr family trust or however the ultimate SFC investment is held if the family are disinterested then he is answerable to no-one. I do not know if any of the family come to matches anymore but if this is the case then he can act and do as he pleases. I think some wrote something along the lines - power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. This is not a mindless rant about comparing him to a historical dictator but there do not appear to be any checks and balances on decisions at the club. There have been other wierd decisions like taking the chairs and tables out of hospitality and the Dell Supporters Club. Not as serious as sacking Nigel but bizarre nonetheless. It has been pointed out to me that there weren't any checks or balances either with the idiot Lowe most of the time where even with a listed company the rest of the Board were just spineless chimpanzees and would not stand up to the arrogant fool. I mean who asks another director to go to Marchwood to spy on Strachan training the team who then falls out of the bush. You could not make it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doggface Posted 21 January, 2013 Share Posted 21 January, 2013 Liebherr was a godsend. Fact Cortese is a ****, but he has been a very successful **** up to now. Jury is out, but he has made few if any pivotal mistakes so far. Have an open mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doggface Posted 21 January, 2013 Share Posted 21 January, 2013 How any ****s can compare us to Blackburn btw I have no ****ing idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 21 January, 2013 Share Posted 21 January, 2013 How any ****s can compare us to Blackburn btw I have no ****ing idea. Just Venky's in a better suit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 21 January, 2013 Author Share Posted 21 January, 2013 How any ****s can compare us to Blackburn btw I have no ****ing idea.see, that is the point..I dont live in southampton and only one other of my work mates in the office is a saints fan......already they are saying, this must be the owners doing if the chairman is not the owner as this could cost THEM tens of millions of ££££££........but I guess no one wants to think that the 'family' have anything what so ever to do with adkins going...........not that it matters now as he has gone and is not coming back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 21 January, 2013 Share Posted 21 January, 2013 see, that is the point..I dont live in southampton and only one other of my work mates in the office is a saints fan......already they are saying, this must be the owners doing if the chairman is not the owner as this could cost THEM tens of millions of ££££££........but I guess no one wants to think that the 'family' have anything what so ever to do with adkins going...........not that it matters now as he has gone and is not coming back They don't. They have no part in the running of thr club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 21 January, 2013 Author Share Posted 21 January, 2013 They don't. They have no part in the running of thr club.sorry....I dont believe that for a second...not saying they had a say in adkins going but to suggest they are going to 'give up' tens of millions without having any input is madness........but if you believe that...then no biggy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 21 January, 2013 Share Posted 21 January, 2013 sorry....I dont believe that for a second...not saying they had a say in adkins going but to suggest they are going to 'give up' tens of millions without having any input is madness........but if you believe that...then no biggy the descendants of M Liebherr have no part in running anything. All Liebherr enterprises are now run by Cortese and a Zurich liquidator called Werner. Only Mali Holdings remains, all the rest have been absorbed or liquidated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 21 January, 2013 Share Posted 21 January, 2013 sorry....I dont believe that for a second...not saying they had a say in adkins going but to suggest they are going to 'give up' tens of millions without having any input is madness........but if you believe that...then no biggy I do because it's true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topcat Posted 21 January, 2013 Share Posted 21 January, 2013 Better to bring a new man in while reinforcements can be made then leave him with someone else's team to work with on February 1st. There is twisted logic to this move. Yes, IF several new players come in that the new Manager wants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_sinner Posted 21 January, 2013 Share Posted 21 January, 2013 the Leibherrs are all away skiing at the moment in St Moritz and don't know about this yet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 21 January, 2013 Share Posted 21 January, 2013 The Estate is run by Cortese - the family have no dealings with club. What agenda do you have? Have we not suffered enough over the last couple of days without trying to rake up even more dirt? FFS. This. It has been made abundantly clear in the past that Cortese runs the club and is the man at the very top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 21 January, 2013 Share Posted 21 January, 2013 Who put NC in his position in the first place, wan't it Marcus Leibherr? That guy we sing about, that Saint that saved the club. I've no doubt Marcus knew exactly what NC was like, unless people are trying to say NC changed after Marcus died. The OP has a point. If MP turns out to be a complete and utter cock, we'll all turn on NC. Yet NC is called all the names under the sun, yet the guy who put him in charge is hero worshiped. It's a bit strange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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