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Slight problem with this. You are falling into the classic distort the probabilty/sats to prove a point - mostly used by those the 'spiritualist' game or teh spoon bending watch restarters - I worry about you.

 

How many restaurant meals do you think NC has had in his life - how many restaurants has he been in? Yet you take ONE example, and ONE side of the story and use it as conclusive proof he is not nice .... I could point out that the 99.99% of times he has no doubt eaten in a fine restaurant, had a great night, tipped well and been courteous to all as proof that he is... but I wont as that would not be Proof he was - merely that on 99% of the time he behaves in a certain way in public. Suggest you go back to the drawing board and wipe this FAIL example from the armoury.

 

Quite. Murders don't kill 99.9% of people they meet in their lives either.

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Ok, lets say you were the Saints chairman and I was a Saints legend. As we all know you don't like me, if I was on Sky's "Soccer Saturday" every weekend slagging you off, would you honestly leave the "Matthew Le God lounge" titled as it is? I find that hard to believe.

 

Technically I don't think anyone can use someone else's season ticket, the club aren't actually doing anything wrong not allowing into the stadium someone using Le Tissier's if it isn't him. What they are doing is enforcing the rules for him and not others, but given the one-way public slanging match Le Tissier is having with Cortese I don't blame him for not doing Le Tissier and his mates any favours.

 

How do you know Cortese didn't start it? It's not like MLT is the only ex player who has an issue with him is it!!! Did you hear lawrie Mac on the radio this morning? Not very complimentry.

 

The fact that it isn't just one way suggests it might be Corteses problem not everyone else's, yes?

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Slight problem with this. You are falling into the classic distort the probabilty/sats to prove a point - mostly used by those the 'spiritualist' game or teh spoon bending watch restarters - I worry about you.

 

How many restaurant meals do you think NC has had in his life - how many restaurants has he been in? Yet you take ONE example, and ONE side of the story and use it as conclusive proof he is not nice .... I could point out that the 99.99% of times he has no doubt eaten in a fine restaurant, had a great night, tipped well and been courteous to all as proof that he is... but I wont as that would not be Proof he was - merely that on 99% of the time he behaves in a certain way in public. Suggest you go back to the drawing board and wipe this FAIL example from the armoury.

 

Hmm there are quite a few stories that paint cortese as not a nice person.

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N0w that is a classic 'running out of ideas' moment - do you ever admit you are wrong and been found out?

 

Yes of course it is Frank. Completely unlike your Buffon like logic that there have been times when he's gone out and not been a c*nt so we can excuse him when he is.

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How do you know Cortese didn't start it? It's not like MLT is the only ex player who has an issue with him is it!!! Did you hear lawrie Mac on the radio this morning? Not very complimentry.

 

The fact that it isn't just one way suggests it might be Corteses problem not everyone else's, yes?

 

Lawrie Mac, MLT, Franny Benalli - the 3 amigos who have had issues with NC - out of what several hundred ex players? see above. Now do you have insider knowledge as to the FACTS behind the fallings out, or merely roumour and gossip from one side?

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Lawrie Mac' date=' MLT, Franny Benalli - the 3 amigos who have had issues with NC - out of what several hundred ex players? see above. Now do you have insider knowledge as to the FACTS behind the fallings out, or merely roumour and gossip from one side?[/quote']

 

Amazing coincidence that all 3 of them are club legends of various levels then isn't it. What about Ollie Lancashire and Jack Savilles tweets about him? Shall we dismiss then as well?

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And at risk of supporting the mongking, it probably takes a he'll of a lot to get banned from a restaurant. I must have eaten in thousands and never got close. Do you get regularly banned from restaurants Frank?

 

You guys are scraping the barrel - seriously, you feel that using a singlke example that you dont know the details of which is less that 1% to prove/support your theories is incredible. Sorry guys no credibilty whatsoever - did you never do science at school and understand simple concepts as significant data?

 

and I wont even dignify your weasly reply with a response.

 

You have changed Hypo, still have that lovely PM you sent me several years back, asking where I had been, how my common sense was missed... you seem affraid to be out on a limb after the Lowe backing you gave and all those nasty cyber warriors bullying you, you've changed tack and ensured you are fully aligned with the mongguvnor to avoid a repeat - grow some mate. You were more honest before.

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And at risk of supporting the mongking, it probably takes a he'll of a lot to get banned from a restaurant. I must have eaten in thousands and never got close. Do you get regularly banned from restaurants Frank?

 

All it takes is an obnoxious 2 year old who won't STFU. Got slung out of one of Paris's finest for that.

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Amazing coincidence that all 3 of them are club legends of various levels then isn't it. What about Ollie Lancashire and Jack Savilles tweets about him? Shall we dismiss then as well?

 

Amazing how all thos you mention might, just might have lost out under the new regime and could not possibly be presenting a slightly biassed POV?

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And at risk of supporting the mongking, it probably takes a he'll of a lot to get banned from a restaurant. I must have eaten in thousands and never got close. Do you get regularly banned from restaurants Frank?

 

It doesn't matter if you are on here, all it would mean is you're only a c*nt some of the time.

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You guys are scraping the barrel - seriously, you feel that using a singlke example that you dont know the details of which is less that 1% to prove/support your theories is incredible. Sorry guys no credibilty whatsoever - did you never do science at school and understand simple concepts as significant data?

 

and I wont even dignify your weasly reply with a response.

 

You have changed Hypo, still have that lovely PM you sent me several years back, asking where I had been, how my common sense was missed... you seem affraid to be out on a limb after the Lowe backing you gave and all those nasty cyber warriors bullying you, you've changed tack and ensured you are fully aligned with the mongguvnor to avoid a repeat - grow some mate. You were more honest before.

 

Massive :lol: BTW i know all of the details exactly what he did and why he was banned so nice try on that one. we're scraping the barrel?!! Whilst you defend your heroes obnoxious and rude behaviour which led him to banned from a restaurant as fine because he's only a c*nt some of the time and must have gone out for a meal before and not be banned!!!

 

Mongboard logic. You really couldn't make it up!!!

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Amazing how all thos you mention might' date=' just might have lost out under the new regime and could not possibly be presenting a slightly biassed POV?[/quote']

 

Where do you stand on the banning of Nick Illingworth for daring to say the club had done something wrong on his website?

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Massive :lol: we're scraping the barrel?!! Whilst you defend your heroes obnoxious and rude behaviour which led him to banned from a restaurant as fine because he's only a c*nt some of the time and must have gone out for a meal before and not be banned!!!

 

Mongboard logic. You really couldn't make it up!!!

 

You best stop now - you are making yourself look ignorant and stupid if you dont get it... best when in a hole to stop digging

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Massive :lol: BTW i know all of the details exactly what he did and why he was banned so nice try on that one. we're scraping the barrel?!! Whilst you defend your heroes obnoxious and rude behaviour which led him to banned from a restaurant as fine because he's only a c*nt some of the time and must have gone out for a meal before and not be banned!!!

 

Mongboard logic. You really couldn't make it up!!!

 

oh and another thing - I dont have hero and am not defending him - if he was indeed banned for bad behaviour (although you dont know the details) - the point your are still failing to grasp is that 1 incident versus 999 odd is not a convincing stat to conclude he's not very nice - be honest - have you ever behaved badly in your life, any skeletons in your closet that you rightly dont want to be forever judged on?

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You best stop now - you are making yourself look ignorant and stupid if you dont get it... best when in a hole to stop digging

 

I am? Jesus Christ Frankie boy if your best attempts at justifying someone's behaviour is that they aren't like it all the time. that's pretty weak, no?

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oh and another thing - I dont have hero and am not defending him - if he was indeed banned for bad behaviour (although you dont know the details) - the point your are still failing to grasp is that 1 incident versus 999 odd is not a convincing stat to conclude he's not very nice - be honest - have you ever behaved badly in your life' date=' any skeletons in your closet that you rightly dont want to be forever judged on?[/quote']

 

I do know the details I was told them first hand and I know several other posters know them as well. I am choosing not share them as its not fair to the owners.

 

The problem is frank it's not just one incident is it. There is this one, the treatment of Nick I, the treatment of other ex players, the fact that we can't retain any back office staff, the unpaid bills and jo shows in court, the issues with the training ground.

 

You and your little band of Internet people are quick to leap to his defence time after time claiming they are all one offs or someone else's fault yet it keeps on happening. I hope you've got plenty of sand available as your head keeps getting deeper into it.

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Fuking hell.

 

Turkish. You don't like NC

Frank, you do

 

This is a bizarre game of trumps

 

It's not a question of not liking him. In fact only today I've praised him on as other thread. I find it hilarious how these Internet people are so keen to defend and justify their man. Complete unable to say or hear a bad word about him. I praise when able and criticise when needed. It's not difficult. And I'm sorry but the CEO of my club being banned from a restaurant for being rude and obnoxious is indefensible.

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I've given you an example, one of a few, not sure what more you are asking for. I could name the place and time (s) it happened but I chose not to on a public forum. Although I doubt it would matter in your eyes as you've already defended his actions by saying its okay for people to acts like Helmets and get themselves banned from places. So if that's your standard the anything seems to be excusable in your eyes.

 

Not so, without facts, I just tend give people the benefit of the doubt rather than judge them or vilify them because of 3rd hand gossip on a forum or tabloid article.

Everyone can have an off day.

 

I just think people in glass houses..........

 

Le tiss isnt perfect. He was as a player in my eyes and he's made a lot of money out of it but should try and be more positive about the club when questioned

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Not so, without facts, I just tend give people the benefit of the doubt rather than judge them or vilify them because of 3rd hand gossip on a forum or tabloid article.

Everyone can have an off day.

 

I just think people in glass houses..........

 

Le tiss isnt perfect. He was as a player in my eyes and he's made a lot of money out of it but should try and be more positive about the club when questioned

 

What about his treatment of Nick I? What about shafting a local company and then not turning up in court?

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It's not a question of not liking him. In fact only today I've praised him on as other thread. I find it hilarious how these Internet people are so keen to defend and justify their man. Complete unable to say or hear a bad word about him. I praise when able and criticise when needed. It's not difficult. And I'm sorry but the CEO of my club being banned from a restaurant for being rude and obnoxious is indefensible.

 

They do insist on defending him. As much as you and hypo insist on not defending him.

Don't let thinly veiled praise cloud that you really can't stand "nicky"

 

I am in the middle... I think he is a right **** but also very good for us

 

I think I am in the middle as I could not care less if he is a bit of a tit to the secretary or is not welcome at a restaurant... Or want to know the ins and outs of things that have nothing to do with the first team

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I do know the details I was told them first hand and I know several other posters know them as well. I am choosing not share them as its not fair to the owners.

 

The problem is frank it's not just one incident is it. There is this one, the treatment of Nick I, the treatment of other ex players, the fact that we can't retain any back office staff, the unpaid bills and jo shows in court, the issues with the training ground.

 

You and your little band of Internet people are quick to leap to his defence time after time claiming they are all one offs or someone else's fault yet it keeps on happening. I hope you've got plenty of sand available as your head keeps getting deeper into it.

 

 

So if everyone knew the your worst behaviour you would be happy for that to the way you are judged?

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They do insist on defending him. As much as you and hypo insist on not defending him.

Don't let thinly veiled praise cloud that you really can't stand "nicky"

 

I am in the middle... I think he is a right **** but also very good for us

 

I think I am in the middle as I could not care less if he is a bit of a tit to the secretary or is not welcome at a restaurant... Or want to know the ins and outs of things that have nothing to do with the first team

 

Utter Bol locks Jamie. I've regularly praised him. As I said I have today.

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So if everyone knew the your worst behaviour you would be happy for that to the way you are judged?

 

All these stories show that Cortese at his worst as you say is a lot worse than the average person. At the very least getting banned from restaurants, no shows in court, the arbitrator thing with nick, the way mlt has been treated, benalis house etc is not the actions of a nice bloke. I suspect even cortese supporters (other than yourself) would concede that.

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Utter Bol locks Jamie. I've regularly praised him. As I said I have today.

 

You can't stand him. Any hint of bad news and your fingers go into over drive.

 

Which is fine. But there are those that do like him.

 

Like I said. I am in the middle and tend to find those with the biggest problem with him. Seem to raise issues about him that have little or nothing to do with the first team... Which to me, is what matters

 

I could not care less if he took a big steaming dump in Benalis Lounge...That is a matter for them. If he sells Rickie lambert against the managers wishes, then I have a problem....

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So if everyone knew the your worst behaviour you would be happy for that to the way you are judged?

 

I couldn't give a toss personally. But then in not a millionaire CEO of a football club spitefully banning fans for saying horrible things about me and getting myself banned from restaurants.

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All these stories show that Cortese at his worst as you say is a lot worse than the average person. At the very least getting banned from restaurants, no shows in court, the ombudsman thing with nick, the way mlt has been treated, benalis house etc is not the actions of a nice bloke. I suspect even cortese supporters (other than yourself) would concede that.

 

 

As with Lowe, I am not a 'supporter' of the man, but a supporter of the ideas and plan - just do not think its right to assume he is a total plankwhen we only have one side of the story - like I said, who wants to be judged by the worst they have done in their lives especially when you then add up the 'not plankish' behaviour and compare the two....

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This is right MLT comes about 7th or 8th for me.

 

Micky is at the top, then Shearer, then Wright, then Paine etc you know blokes who made something of their careers, captained their country instead of just being a big fish in a small pond forever. In fact I'd even rate Chris Nicholl above MLT

 

 

Well I sat next to somebody who was ninety odd and went to his first game in 1921 and he told me that Matty was the best player he ever saw.

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Ok, lets say you were the Saints chairman and I was a Saints legend. As we all know you don't like me, if I was on Sky's "Soccer Saturday" every weekend slagging you off, would you honestly leave the "Matthew Le God lounge" titled as it is? I find that hard to believe.

 

Technically I don't think anyone can use someone else's season ticket, the club aren't actually doing anything wrong not allowing into the stadium someone using Le Tissier's if it isn't him. What they are doing is enforcing the rules for him and not others, but given the one-way public slanging match Le Tissier is having with Cortese I don't blame him for not doing Le Tissier and his mates any favours.

 

Do you really believe it reflected well on NC when he blocked MLT's guests. No really do you think that was classy?

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I think you've got to show Cortese some compassion. He's clearly still grieving. I don't think anyone needs reminding of the tragic loss that he suffered, the cloud of gloom still hangs over St. Mary's. Is it any surprise that Cortese can be sometimes ill tempered, particularly at top restaurants where he is sure to be constantly reminded of his little friend? RIP, Cortese's spoon.

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You can't stand him. Any hint of bad news and your fingers go into over drive.

 

Which is fine. But there are those that do like him.

 

Like I said. I am in the middle and tend to find those with the biggest problem with him. Seem to raise issues about him that have little or nothing to do with the first team... Which to me, is what matters

 

I could not care less if he took a big steaming dump in Benalis Lounge...That is a matter for them. If he sells Rickie lambert against the managers wishes, then I have a problem....

 

I admit I don't like him now because o the way he's treated people. He doesn't care that I don't like him. I found him funny at first and like the streak of arrogance he has. But the more I've heard about him the more I've heard he is spiteful and nasty and treats people with contempt. You can't fault what he's done for the club but I don't understand why he can't treat people with more respect. As I said I'll praise him when he deserves it and he does on football matters.

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Well. I'm yet to see you praise him with any hint of devotion and joy you get in having a right go.

 

Which again is your choice

 

Me personally, if he is a ****... Then so be it. Rather. He was not but I am a fan and really care about results and improvement in the team...

 

As for loyalty etc. good question but let's not pretend that we are loyal as fans. How quickly do we turn on players, boo them even (not saying you do)... We fans an be utterly hypocritical.

 

With that. I still think letting Adkins go now is insane and that we are going down. But I may well be wrong, so lets see...

 

But the idea that NC is not welcome in margaritas or what ever. Really care more about which way to wipe my arse than I do about that, personally.

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Do you really believe it reflected well on NC when he blocked MLT's guests. No really do you think that was classy?

 

Of course it did not reflect well on him, it's petty and stupid - the whole tit for tat thing is childish.

 

But I suspect he is not alone in acting like a **** at times - we all do, and wish/ hope people see it for what it is not judge us on these episodes alone

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Well I sat next to somebody who was ninety odd and went to his first game in 1921 and he told me that Matty was the best player he ever saw.

 

Well he either didn't attend many games or he was just besotted by MLT's loyalty and special gifts. Hundreds of footballers by far superior in quality to MLT have performed at the Dell and SMS, a few of them for the Saints. .

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/\ have a look at the thread about puncheon today. I praised him there. The problem is that when you praise him you don't get people like FC coming out with all sorts of bizarre reasons to defend him so I have to argue

My point more. The thing I find bizarre is the lengths people will go to defend his behaviour and excuses they come out with to justify it.

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/\ have a look at the thread about puncheon today. I praised him there. The problem is that when you praise him you don't get people like FC coming out with all sorts of bizarre reasons to defend him so I have to argue

My point more. The thing I find bizarre is the lengths people will go to defend his behaviour and excuses they come out with to justify it.

 

Equally. The lengths people go to have a pop.

 

What the hell has him not being welcome at a restaurant got to do with anything that matters???? Seriously?

 

What ever reason you give to justify it, people like frank will justify their position with the exact opposite view point

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Well he either didn't attend many games or he was just besotted by MLT's loyalty and special gifts. Hundreds of footballers by far superior in quality to MLT have performed at the Dell and SMS, a few of them for the Saints. .

 

I don't think there have been hundreds of footballers far superior to mlt.

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Of course it did not reflect well on him, it's petty and stupid - the whole tit for tat thing is childish.

 

But I suspect he is not alone in acting like a **** at times - we all do, and wish/ hope people see it for what it is not judge us on these episodes alone

 

You are right of course. But we aren't CEOs of football clubs. In the case of MLTs ticket and NIck Illinsworths that wasn't a moment of anger. It was premeditated spitefullness. He didn't even reply to the letter he got after banning nick, jut ignored then. Do you find that spiteful behaviour acceptable?

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Equally. The lengths people go to have a pop.

 

What the hell has him not being welcome at a restaurant got to do with anything that matters???? Seriously?

 

What ever reason you give to justify it, people like frank will justify their position with the exact opposite view point

 

It was an example of him being a c*nt that was asked for. I'm surprised you fail to understand this.

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I don't think there have been hundreds of footballers far superior to mlt.

 

Since 1921, of course there have been.

 

Even the past 45 years I personally have seen plenty that were better players, Sounness, Dalglish, Rush, Hoddle, Keane, Shearer, Best, Charlton, Osgood, Berkamp,Henry, Law,Giles, Clarke, Ball, Robson,Moore, off the top of my head .

 

I really think our supporters confuse having great talent with being a great player. On his day he was a great player, but sadly his day did not come around anywhere near enough to be considered one of the 100 greatest players since 1921 .

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Well I sat next to somebody who was ninety odd and went to his first game in 1921 and he told me that Matty was the best player he ever saw.

 

Hilarious isn't it. Now saying the people like Alan Shearer and his two decent seasons at Saints were better players for Saints than MLT was. Funnily enough the vast majority of people don't seem to agree, those that don't think it was Matt will go with Paine or Channon. Now apparently he's only 7th or 8th best and only had talent wasn't a great player. Laughable.

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Hello spanners on the internet.

 

Listen up. Matthew Le Tissier will be commenting about matters ascertaining to Southampton Football Club for some time yet.

 

How about at least once a month, every month, for the next thirty years.

 

Now you strange people can hop from foot to foot getting jolly upset about it, grizzle that your opinion is just as jolly well important, whine about how unqualified he is. You can all do that for the next thirty years. Fill yer boots.

 

And you can even squinney and shreik that Matt Le Tissier might say something that might upset the faceless bloke in a suit who haopens to run the club at present.

 

And why not - because thats why we all love football isn't it? To get behind chief executives. We've all got our favourite chief executives, haven't we? They are what make football simply magical. So sure, if Matt puts that at wonderful thing at risk, you people stand up for what you believe in. Grizzle your little hearts out.

 

The rest of us will be still here. Looking on at you. Pointing, and laughing. Pointing and laughing.

 

Just read this...

 

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