Turkish Posted 20 January, 2013 Share Posted 20 January, 2013 http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/saints/news/10173606.Cortese_has_ego_problem___Le_Tissier/?ref=rss Pretty accurate comments IMO. Particularly the bit about him not attending the press conference to explain his decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webby Posted 20 January, 2013 Share Posted 20 January, 2013 Is Cortese in the country? I only ask cos there's talk of phone calls to Lallana and such. So, does anyone know that he's here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge_B Posted 20 January, 2013 Share Posted 20 January, 2013 Was the bit on the website about making a change with an eye on the future (paraphrasing) not him explaining his decision? Given that he's not about to get on Oprah's sofa and give a heartfelt interview, what else is anyone expecting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 20 January, 2013 Share Posted 20 January, 2013 Was the bit on the website about making a change with an eye on the future (paraphrasing) not him explaining his decision? Given that he's not about to get on Oprah's sofa and give a heartfelt interview, what else is anyone expecting? For him just to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 20 January, 2013 Share Posted 20 January, 2013 A lot of talk in the media today about Nicola being upset about the lack of credit he has recieved for the success over the last 3 years. Perhaps he thought Nigel was too popular and simply got jealous? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 20 January, 2013 Share Posted 20 January, 2013 Nothing new really from Le Tiss, is basically waht he said on the radio. Given that Le Tiss is always quick to add his twopenneth (especially as he has a long standing gripe with NC) its a bit hypocritical to suggest NC is alone in having an ego problem - maybe he should take a leaf out Nige's book and look at the glass? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madruss Posted 20 January, 2013 Share Posted 20 January, 2013 Just think, we could have had Micky Fialka in charge if Matt had had his way. Then all of this awful mess would never have happened Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge_B Posted 20 January, 2013 Share Posted 20 January, 2013 For him just to be honest. He honestly thought NA wasn't good enough, made clear by his decision to get rid of him. He honestly thinks Pochettino is good enough, made clear by the fact he's hired him. He might have handled it better with NA on a personal level, but his relationship with one man doesn't demand a national press conference. I can't where he might have been dishonest so far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToreSF Posted 20 January, 2013 Share Posted 20 January, 2013 As many has pointed out, if Cortese had attended the press conference, the whole thing would be about the sacking of Adkins, and quite unfair to the Pochettino. No on liked the decision to fire Adkins, but you really can't argue with the results Cortese has brought to the club. Many people says they would rather be in league one/championship with another owner, but I struggle to believe that. When it comes to all the rumors presented, especially from you Turkish, some of it might be right, and some of it might be wrong. It's impossible to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 20 January, 2013 Share Posted 20 January, 2013 Just think, we could have had Micky Fialka in charge if Matt had had his way. Then all of this awful mess would never have happened Jealousy and ego problems........MLT ,Lawrie Mac, Dave Merrington and the like... have to get over themselves. They were my idols at one time but FFS get on with your lives.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 20 January, 2013 Share Posted 20 January, 2013 http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/saints/news/10173606.Cortese_has_ego_problem___Le_Tissier/?ref=rss Pretty accurate comments IMO. Particularly the bit about him not attending the press conference to explain his decision. We'll probably get our next update from NC in the next pre-season dvd they send out. Can't wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 20 January, 2013 Share Posted 20 January, 2013 For the first time in a long time I'm going to agree with MLT. Cowardly not to show up for the press conference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 20 January, 2013 Share Posted 20 January, 2013 We'll probably get our next update from NC in the next pre-season dvd they send out. Can't wait. Hopefully it'll involve an artists impression of a 80,000 seater harbourdrome with champions league boards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudders Posted 20 January, 2013 Share Posted 20 January, 2013 He honestly thought NA wasn't good enough, made clear by his decision to get rid of him. He honestly thinks Pochettino is good enough, made clear by the fact he's hired him. He might have handled it better with NA on a personal level, but his relationship with one man doesn't demand a national press conference. I can't where he might have been dishonest so far But don't forget some people on here feel Nicola should have sent all fans an individually hand written letter detailing his deepest thoughts and feelings! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted 20 January, 2013 Share Posted 20 January, 2013 He honestly thought NA wasn't good enough, made clear by his decision to get rid of him. He honestly thinks Pochettino is good enough, made clear by the fact he's hired him. He might have handled it better with NA on a personal level, but his relationship with one man doesn't demand a national press conference. I can't where he might have been dishonest so far Is that you just honestly thinking those were his thoughts or do you know those were his thoughts for a fact? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 20 January, 2013 Share Posted 20 January, 2013 There is a condition called Narcissistic Personality Disorder. Look it up. Compare and contrast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 20 January, 2013 Share Posted 20 January, 2013 Jealousy and ego problems........MLT ,Lawrie Mac, Dave Merrington and the like... have to get over themselves. They were my idols at one time but FFS get on with your lives.. No way le tiss or Dave have ego problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 20 January, 2013 Share Posted 20 January, 2013 New song for Monday http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xbb6r5_the-saturdays-ego-official-video-hq_music http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xbb6r5_the-saturdays-ego-official-video-hq_music Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 20 January, 2013 Share Posted 20 January, 2013 But don't forget some people on here feel Nicola should have sent all fans an individually hand written letter detailing his deepest thoughts and feelings! Given the timing and enormity of the decision (that has seen football people stunned) do you realy think it was too much to expect the man who made the decision to front up the media and expain why and why his new choice is the right choice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 20 January, 2013 Share Posted 20 January, 2013 Nothing new really from Le Tiss' date=' is basically waht he said on the radio. Given that Le Tiss is always quick to add his twopenneth (especially as he has a long standing gripe with NC) its a bit hypocritical to suggest NC is alone in having an ego problem - maybe he should take a leaf out Nige's book and look at the glass?[/quote'] Plwase go away you boring man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceandfriendly Posted 20 January, 2013 Share Posted 20 January, 2013 Plwase go away you boring man. He may be boring Roger, but he's right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge_B Posted 20 January, 2013 Share Posted 20 January, 2013 Is that you just honestly thinking those were his thoughts or do you know those were his thoughts for a fact? Honestly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge_B Posted 20 January, 2013 Share Posted 20 January, 2013 Given the timing and enormity of the decision (that has seen football people stunned) do you realy think it was too much to expect the man who made the decision to front up the media and expain why and why his new choice is the right choice? What is to explain, though? His actions were brutally honest. I can deduce that he felt a change was in the best interests of the club, and that he thinks the guy he has hired is an improvement on where we were. I will love NA forever, but I don't need an conference with NC to know his motivation behind his decisions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 20 January, 2013 Share Posted 20 January, 2013 Honestly? Are you his friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge_B Posted 20 January, 2013 Share Posted 20 January, 2013 Are you his friend. Who? Also - what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 20 January, 2013 Share Posted 20 January, 2013 No way le tiss or Dave have ego problems. Know them well...You are right...But like you and me...Can be right WAAAAANKERS at times. Sometimes I wish they would not say stooopid thing in the press or in public forum... MLT world class player and my idol amongst a few others. Dave Merrington......Good footballer and a brilliant youth football coach.....Rubbish on the radio lol. But boyz shut the fluuuck up sometimes... AND meee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 20 January, 2013 Share Posted 20 January, 2013 Plwase go away you boring man. Is that the best you can do when faced with someone you disagree with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudders Posted 20 January, 2013 Share Posted 20 January, 2013 Given the timing and enormity of the decision (that has seen football people stunned) do you realy think it was too much to expect the man who made the decision to front up the media and expain why and why his new choice is the right choice? In an ideal world it would be great to get a bit more information from Nicola Cortese generally and I have told him that in person, his secretary took a note and I assume filed it under recycling! But he’s been our chairman for long enough now for us to know he doesn’t like talking to the media or the fans on a regular basis (remember how we all criticised Lowe for talking too much). Despite what everyone says about his ego, he’s actually relatively shy, although clearly that doesn’t mean he’s not assertive and ruthless when required. He’s told us in a very short sentence why he’s made the decision, we all know why he’s made the decisions. Clearly a lot of people don’t agree with it, but people that are saying that don’t know why he made it are lying, stupid or just in denial. What more do people need him to do, or more to the point WHY do people seem to NEED him to do more? People these days are so soft. As for him fronting up at the press conference Friday, as has already been highlighted, that would have totally detracted from focusing on the new man, so I actually feel Cortese was right to stay away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 20 January, 2013 Share Posted 20 January, 2013 As much as we may moan ***** and disagree about some of Nc's decision-making since he has come in he has only taken us forward let's wait and see if this is his first real mistake! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 20 January, 2013 Share Posted 20 January, 2013 In an ideal world it would be great to get a bit more information from Nicola Cortese generally and I have told him that in person, his secretary took a note and I assume filed it under recycling! But he’s been our chairman for long enough now for us to know he doesn’t like talking to the media or the fans on a regular basis (remember how we all criticised Lowe for talking too much). Despite what everyone says about his ego, he’s actually relatively shy, although clearly that doesn’t mean he’s not assertive and ruthless when required. He’s told us in a very short sentence why he’s made the decision, we all know why he’s made the decisions. Clearly a lot of people don’t agree with it, but people that are saying that don’t know why he made it are lying, stupid or just in denial. What more do people need him to do, or more to the point WHY do people seem to NEED him to do more? People these days are so soft. As for him fronting up at the press conference Friday, as has already been highlighted, that would have totally detracted from focusing on the new man, so I actually feel Cortese was right to stay away. As he's been conspiring behind Adkins back for weeks if not months, and didn't tell Adkins face to face he'd been sacked I think that speaks volumes. Why not do a separate press conference? It would surely be easy for him as his decision is so logical? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 20 January, 2013 Share Posted 20 January, 2013 The fact that he failed to attend the press conference to stand next to his appointment & answer questions sums up the man. Gutless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudders Posted 20 January, 2013 Share Posted 20 January, 2013 As much as we may moan ***** and disagree about some of Nc's decision-making since he has come in he has only taken us forward let's wait and see if this is his first real massive mistake! Amended slightly for you as I think even people who are behind him would agree he's already made a few clangers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonroader07 Posted 20 January, 2013 Share Posted 20 January, 2013 As a Senior Manager in any company you dont explain your decisions, you just listen to folk you respect and then make a decision, staff should then work with the decision if it works it is great if it fails then that is way the top guy earns the top money and gets the chop.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webby Posted 20 January, 2013 Share Posted 20 January, 2013 Is Cortese in the country? I only ask cos there's talk of phone calls to Lallana and such. So, does anyone know that he's here? Anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 20 January, 2013 Share Posted 20 January, 2013 As a Senior Manager in any company you dont explain your decisions, you just listen to folk you respect and then make a decision, staff should then work with the decision if it works it is great if it fails then that is way the top guy earns the top money and gets the chop.. We aren't staff, we're "customers". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudders Posted 20 January, 2013 Share Posted 20 January, 2013 As he's been conspiring behind Adkins back for weeks if not months, and didn't tell Adkins face to face he'd been sacked I think that speaks volumes. Why not do a separate press conference? It would surely be easy for him as his decision is so logical? This is the one area I do agree with, IF what we are hearing in the media is true and Adkins found out via the TV that is awful. I don't disagree that this event has been handled badly in some areas. But I ask again WHY do people feel they NEED to hear a press conference on the subject if he’s already said why he’s made the decision? What more is there to say? Also where you use the word "conspiring" others would use the word 'planning’. In many organisations management should (and do) have succession plans in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudders Posted 20 January, 2013 Share Posted 20 January, 2013 We aren't staff, we're "customers". ok so then what is your product? If your product is football, then what goes on behind the scenes is not relevant to you is it? When you buy a meal you don't need to know about who cooks it, just that it tastes good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 20 January, 2013 Share Posted 20 January, 2013 I do wish Le Tiss would keep his counsel some times. He has nothing of any use to say but just feels the need to stir the ****. Le Tiss is the one with ego problems. Great player, idlo for many, but sadly a bit of a burk. As is Cortese. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Gotsmanov Posted 20 January, 2013 Share Posted 20 January, 2013 Nothing new really from Le Tiss' date=' is basically waht he said on the radio. Given that Le Tiss is always quick to add his twopenneth (especially as he has a long standing gripe with NC) its a bit hypocritical to suggest NC is alone in having an ego problem - maybe he should take a leaf out Nige's book and look at the glass?[/quote'] You are a poor judge of people if you think MLT has an ego problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 20 January, 2013 Share Posted 20 January, 2013 He made a statement explaining his decision. He obviously sorted out the appointment while Nigel was still in the job. He's not the first chairman to do this and won't be the last. At least we didn't have a Dodd/Gorman caretaker scenario. He didn't attend the press conference because it was about the new manager, not a sideshow. To be fair, he's been pretty honest. Whether you agree with him is another matter, but he has been pretty up front. He didn't rate Nigel, so he's got someone in who he thinks will do better. Matt is more than entitled to his opinion. He spoke very well on Sky yesterday. I think we all know where he stands on the subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webby Posted 20 January, 2013 Share Posted 20 January, 2013 ok so then what is your product? If your product is football, then what goes on behind the scenes is not relevant to you is it? When you buy a meal you don't need to know about who cooks it, just that it tastes good! And to continue with that analogy, if the restaurant owner has ambitions of a Michelin star and decides to sack the chef and bring in another in an effort to achieve that, that's surely his perogative. The only thing that we the customers should notice is an improved product if his decision was right. That, and a higher price for the meal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 20 January, 2013 Share Posted 20 January, 2013 Head of company has ego shocker.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 20 January, 2013 Author Share Posted 20 January, 2013 To all you saying why do we need a press conference think about it. He hasn't sacked an underperforming manager who the fans are relieved to see gone. He's sacked a popular manager who had achieved more than we could have hoped in the time frame in an underhand way who were turning results aroud and replaced him with someone most of us have never hears of. 95% of the fan base are against the decision. He's been critised widely in the media. If you think a few arrogant lines about his vision in a press release are sufficient then there is no helping some of you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 20 January, 2013 Share Posted 20 January, 2013 MLT is just bitter imo... NC out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 20 January, 2013 Share Posted 20 January, 2013 This is the one area I do agree with, IF what we are hearing in the media is true and Adkins found out via the TV that is awful. I don't disagree that this event has been handled badly in some areas. But I ask again WHY do people feel they NEED to hear a press conference on the subject if he’s already said why he’s made the decision? What more is there to say? Also where you use the word "conspiring" others would use the word 'planning’. In many organisations management should (and do) have succession plans in place. When the new manager seems to have been watching games and scouting new players while Adkins is working his balls off, thats conspiring. I'd feel like a right mug if I was Adkins. If that happened in most organisations it'd be considered out of order and people wouldn't be happy. And why a press conference? As with anything in life, people respect those who come out and face up to their decisions, it's not rocket science. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manji Posted 20 January, 2013 Share Posted 20 January, 2013 Nothing new really from Le Tiss' date=' is basically waht he said on the radio. Given that Le Tiss is always quick to add his twopenneth (especially as he has a long standing gripe with NC) its a bit hypocritical to suggest NC is alone in having an ego problem - maybe he should take a leaf out Nige's book and look at the glass?[/quote'] MLT and McMoneybags will jump on anything they see as bad publicity. It is completely obvious why Cortese have frozen them out of the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 20 January, 2013 Share Posted 20 January, 2013 When the new manager seems to have been watching games and scouting new players while Adkins is working his balls off, thats conspiring. I'd feel like a right mug if I was Adkins. If that happened in most organisations it'd be considered out of order and people wouldn't be happy. And why a press conference? As with anything in life, people respect those who come out and face up to their decisions, it's not rocket science. how do you know adkins was not aware of it or not.....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dronskisaint Posted 20 January, 2013 Share Posted 20 January, 2013 The fact that he failed to attend the press conference to stand next to his appointment & answer questions sums up the man. Gutless. I disagree... Whilst I'm gutted for Nigel and would much prefer not to have to address this at all - Cortese has been astute enough not to throw petrol on the fire in public when the club is facing a difficult weekend lead up to a difficult match. Granted it was his fire but the media and Saints players and fans are had Nigel's dismisal, Pottechino's appointment and (I feel sorry for his news being buried) Foren's to digest, analyse, comment on and report. He had explained the only reason he was going to give in his statement...someone called a good analogy by questioning if this was so different to Clyne replacing Richardson...and any amount of questioning by journalists with papers to sell or fans feeling aggrieved was not going to change that. It's also completely characteristic of his chairmanship to stay out of the limelight - I genuinely believe pragmatic business judgement drove his decision not to attend, not cowardice. I don't feel good at all about the situation, I believe that Nigel would have kept us improving sufficient to ensure survival and feel for him as he's an honest and genuine person who, in my opinion, did not deserve this but to say NC's reason for not attending was cowardice is just plain wrong ....in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 20 January, 2013 Share Posted 20 January, 2013 I do wish Le Tiss would keep his counsel some times. He has nothing of any use to say but just feels the need to stir the ****. Le Tiss is the one with ego problems. Great player, idlo for many, but sadly a bit of a burk. As is Cortese. Le tiss hasnt an ego problem. That's why he stated loyal to us. Stupid to say that. Things are stirred up already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 20 January, 2013 Share Posted 20 January, 2013 ok so then what is your product? If your product is football, then what goes on behind the scenes is not relevant to you is it? When you buy a meal you don't need to know about who cooks it, just that it tastes good! If my business was football and my business would suffer greatly if my customers left in their droves, as they did last time my business was relegated, I'd like to think I'd face up to them, explain clearly what I wanted to achieve and why I viewed the change as necessary, take the heat out of it and hope that they accept it, or if not accepting it, understand the pathway I'd chosen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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