Best media article so far on the situation

[theyin]

That reminds me, one of the intellectually challenged presenters on TalkSport last night was saying that Cortese's statement on the OS smacked of him trying to build a team on the cheap because he wants to get more academy players coming through to the first team squad....

 

Was that the American idiot? Jeez, I'd never heard such rubbish being spewed.

 

A lot of the meejah (apart from the foreign contingent and especially British specialists on La Liga), these past two days have taken the line the majority on here took, including myself. The difference being, there's a healthy minority waking up the fact it's happened and MP has the credentials to take us on to the next stage.

 

The meejah though need to fill their pages, news items and 24hr broadcasts and have a tendency to stir things up to get a reaction and hardly ever admit they're wrong.

 

We'll see what MP can deliver. Only time will tell but you can be assured come half nine tomorrow night, whatever the score is they'll have all the material they need to keep the conversation going for days to come.

[Mowgli]

A good synopsis...

 

http://www.footballcourier.com/news/story/1899080/why-was-nigel-adkins-sacked/full_story.html

[Wes Tender]

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The difference being, there's a healthy minority waking up the fact it's happened and MP has the credentials to take us on to the next stage.

 

Does he? Doesn't speak English, has only had one managerial appointment before, sacked by that club when they were bottom of the league, no experience of managing a Premiership club, not even any experience of English football.

 

I accept that he might well be brilliant and that he is highly regarded by many and might become the next Mourinho. But on the other hand he might be an unmitigated disaster.

 

We'll have to wait and see, but at the moment, until we have evidence to ground a realistic opinion on, those currently fearing that Cortese might have made a dreadful mistake hold the same validity to their opinion as do those who think that Cortese might have produced a management change that is a masterstroke.

 

Put me in the camp that questions whether Pochettino has the credentials to take us to the next stage.

[pap]

You make very sensible and pragmatic points, however, I think that this situation has been handled so badly that it has alienated the fans. Whilst I fully accept that I am just a customer of a ruthless business, it isn't nice to have that fact rubbed in your face. By acting in a way that is in direct contradiction of the fans' wishes, as voiced by support for Adkins at games, it puts an extra distance between the fans and the club. It hasn't annoyed me enough to stop me going to games, but it will effect some people's decisions who go on an occasional basis. It has affected the way I feel about the club and I might be a bit quieter in my support at games.

 

At clubs that have explicit bankrolling from billionaires, this can be ignored. I'm not convinced that we're in that position. If the club has to be self-funding, treating the fans badly and poor communication is a bad strategy.

 

I agree that a lot of individual things have been handled badly, not just alienating our fans but also likely to antagonise neutrals who've previously had a soft spot for us. Problem is, neither we nor they know what was really going on within the club. People are performing detailed condemnation based on black-box information. The most distasteful things about NA's exit are the pre-meditation and communication. The communication was handled terribly. The pre-meditation, though interpreted as a stab in the back by some (it was), might make some positive difference in the future.

 

I don't think we're ever going to be a billionaire club spunking 50M on established superstars. I'm fairly aligned with the plans of the board on the path to success. Train and keep the best youngsters in the world. We do the train part well; it's the keeping that's been the problem.

 

My overall take is that NA and NC had markedly different agendas. NA was happy enough scraping survival in the Prem. Why wouldn't he be? The sun shines out of Martinez' arse and all he manages to do is save Wigan every year. NC seems to genuinely believe we can do this European lark, and that MP is the man to push the youth agenda.

 

Most Saints fans would be happy enough to survive relegation, but if that's all we do each year, we're going to continue to be perceived as that attractive little talent farm on the South Coast. This is a big roll of the dice to push us forward and as you point out, has lost a lot of goodwill and put us under the microscope, with Cortese being viewed as some invasive virus systematically destroying the pillars of what made English football so great. Such charges have been laid before, particularly around the time of the Pardew sacking along with the odd "difficult to deal with" murmurs during the transfer windows. Well, I ask you - the likes of Peterborough who were going on about our "derisory" offers. Where are they now, exactly?

 

NC may be ruthless, but has been vindicated on his big recruitment decisions. I'm not saying he will be here. Externally, changing managers might be seen as a tremendous gamble. Internally, none of us really know what was going on. May have just reached the point where a change had to be made no matter what.

[Sour Mash]

Was that the American idiot? Jeez, I'd never heard such rubbish being spewed.

 

A lot of the meejah (apart from the foreign contingent and especially British specialists on La Liga), these past two days have taken the line the majority on here took, including myself. The difference being, there's a healthy minority waking up the fact it's happened and MP has the credentials to take us on to the next stage.

 

The meejah though need to fill their pages, news items and 24hr broadcasts and have a tendency to stir things up to get a reaction and hardly ever admit they're wrong.

 

We'll see what MP can deliver. Only time will tell but you can be assured come half nine tomorrow night, whatever the score is they'll have all the material they need to keep the conversation going for days to come.

MP might turn out to be a top manager. He might not. But thats not the point. How hard is that to understand? Or do you lap up anything the club does just for the merest hint of European football?

[Norm]

That 'nasty' Patrick Collins in his page from Mail on Sunday, called our leader a clown. I bet NC won't be inviting Patrick to our first Champions League Final game!

[Frank's cousin]

MP might turn out to be a top manager. He might not. But thats not the point. How hard is that to understand? Or do you lap up anything the club does just for the merest hint of European football?

 

Plenty on here not differentiating between the two decsions though. 1) the sacking and the reasons for that decsion, and 2) who has been appointed - different issues

 

Many of those that you disagree with are not 'defending' either decsion, but trying to understand it and look for the rational behind it - and not simply jumping on the emotional 'outrage' rhetoric bandwagon. Its easy to simply react in that way, but it adds nothing to the debate and simply illustrates that football is still so insular and 'old school' in its mentality.

[Sour Mash]

Plenty on here not differentiating between the two decsions though. 1) the sacking and the reasons for that decsion, and 2) who has been appointed - different issues

 

Many of those that you disagree with are not 'defending' either decsion, but trying to understand it and look for the rational behind it - and not simply jumping on the emotional 'outrage' rhetoric bandwagon. Its easy to simply react in that way, but it adds nothing to the debate and simply illustrates that football is still so insular and 'old school' in its mentality.

Equally there are many posters that don't seem to understand you can be against the decision, but don't necessarily think MP is s**t. Don't understand what you mean by 'insular' or 'old school'.

[Frank's cousin]

Equally there are many posters that don't seem to understand you can be against the decision, but don't necessarily think MP is s**t. Don't understand what you mean by 'insular' or 'old school'.

 

I can, and can appreciate the issue around the sacking/loyalty argument is highly emotive. By old school and insular, my point is that too many are not prepared to look at anything other than the 'shocking decision' and thats that, explaining it simply that its ego or Cortese is a cant - he may well be, but I doubt he made this decsion because he is. He made this decision IMHO, because it became clear to him that NC did not have the ability to deliver the next phase. That might be a cold calculated 'ruthless' decision in most of footballs eyes, but then most of football will express outrage one day, whilst lapping up the 'business' that is the greatest league in the world hype and taking the silver from betting sponsors happy to joke about who is next for the sack and the odds for it - its this hypocrissy that I find so distasteful.

 

The game IS where it is. If we expect success and growth, demand it even (as most did under Lowe shouting to spend some feckin money and show some ambition), we need toi accept that to acheive that we might not have the touchy feely fan friendly club its possible to have in the lower leagues.

[Gis]

A good synopsis...

 

http://www.footballcourier.com/news/story/1899080/why-was-nigel-adkins-sacked/full_story.html

 

A really interesting piece. A complete contrast to the majority, and in my opinion naive viewpoints, as portrayed on the Sunday Supplement, many of the papers, and experts (Le Tis, Merson, Benali, etc.).

[Sour Mash]

I can, and can appreciate the issue around the sacking/loyalty argument is highly emotive. By old school and insular, my point is that too many are not prepared to look at anything other than the 'shocking decision' and thats that, explaining it simply that its ego or Cortese is a cant - he may well be, but I doubt he made this decsion because he is. He made this decision IMHO, because it became clear to him that NC did not have the ability to deliver the next phase. That might be a cold calculated 'ruthless' decision in most of footballs eyes, but then most of football will express outrage one day, whilst lapping up the 'business' that is the greatest league in the world hype and taking the silver from betting sponsors happy to joke about who is next for the sack and the odds for it - its this hypocrissy that I find so distasteful.

 

The game IS where it is. If we expect success and growth, demand it even (as most did under Lowe shouting to spend some feckin money and show some ambition), we need toi accept that to acheive that we might not have the touchy feely fan friendly club its possible to have in the lower leagues.

NC gave the manager that had got him two promotions in two years a couple of months in the Premier League to learn and develop into a Premier League manager. I assume NC will also give MP just a couple of months as well to prove himself by your logic another sacking would be sensible? Edited 20 January, 2013 by Sour Mash

[Frank's cousin]

Does he? Doesn't speak English, has only had one managerial appointment before, sacked by that club when they were bottom of the league, no experience of managing a Premiership club, not even any experience of English football.

 

I accept that he might well be brilliant and that he is highly regarded by many and might become the next Mourinho. But on the other hand he might be an unmitigated disaster.

 

We'll have to wait and see, but at the moment, until we have evidence to ground a realistic opinion on, those currently fearing that Cortese might have made a dreadful mistake hold the same validity to their opinion as do those who think that Cortese might have produced a management change that is a masterstroke.

 

Put me in the camp that questions whether Pochettino has the credentials to take us to the next stage.

 

Dont think anyone is in the 'masterstroke camp' yet Wes, time will be the judge on that - all some are suggesting is that teh decsion was always on the cards and that in NCs eyes, the strategy was always going to require someone with different credentials, as harsh as that is on Nigel.

 

What for one person is ego driven meglomania, is for others the ability and williningness to make harsh and difficult decisions despite the backlash when they believe in their plan.

 

I suspect a lot of why so many have a huge issue with NC is more to do with the fact he keeps us in the dark, we dont know the details of the plan, he wont explain it publically, yet we hunmger for details even if we believe its pipe dream or unrealistic nonsense, our own egos demand to part of that 'inner circle' and can not cope when we do not understand what on the surface appears a 'mad' decsion'. I think especially those in the media as pundits really struggle with the not knowing so react as they do...

Edited 20 January, 2013 by Frank's cousin

[Frank's cousin]

NC gave the manager that had got him two promotions in two years a couple of months in the Premier League to learn o

and develop into a Premier League manager. I assume NC will also give MP just a couple of months as well to prove himself by your logic another sacking would be sensible?

 

Like I said, I dont know - I suspect NA got a few months to prove if he was able to dleiver the next phase? and results, transfers etc did not demonstrate to NC that he did - could also be about when it was possible to get the man he wanted.

 

I appreciate that this makes it all sound and appear quite ruthless - not denying that, it does. But when we use the word 'calculated' it does not have to be negative - it can be about minimising risk or aligning a decsion with the strategy and having the balls to make the decision.

 

It is a huge risk bringing in MP now and I am happy to admit that if thsi is part of the strategy then waiting til the season end would ahve been better - but would teh raection have been any different? Would it be any easier to sack Adkins if we survived in teh prem and he was being lauded for doing so? Sure it woudl be easier if we were relegated under Adkins, but that would also be a set back, and then you have the loyalty card.

 

On a personal level, I would like nothing more than to have Adkins here at the helm and to have watched him develop as the club progresssed. He is a decent guy of integrity and made me proud that we had someone like that as our manager. But that is not what is happening and as much as I dont know whay the decision was made now, does not mean that I dont believe that there was a more to it than just ego + NC being a cant.

[Sour Mash]

Like I said, I dont know - I suspect NA got a few months to prove if he was able to dleiver the next phase? and results, transfers etc did not demonstrate to NC that he did - could also be about when it was possible to get the man he wanted.

 

I appreciate that this makes it all sound and appear quite ruthless - not denying that, it does. But when we use the word 'calculated' it does not have to be negative - it can be about minimising risk or aligning a decsion with the strategy and having the balls to make the decision.

 

It is a huge risk bringing in MP now and I am happy to admit that if thsi is part of the strategy then waiting til the season end would ahve been better - but would teh raection have been any different? Would it be any easier to sack Adkins if we survived in teh prem and he was being lauded for doing so? Sure it woudl be easier if we were relegated under Adkins, but that would also be a set back, and then you have the loyalty card.

 

On a personal level, I would like nothing more than to have Adkins here at the helm and to have watched him develop as the club progresssed. He is a decent guy of integrity and made me proud that we had someone like that as our manager. But that is not what is happening and as much as I dont know whay the decision was made now, does not mean that I dont believe that there was a more to it than just ego + NC being a cant.

Right I'll take that as a 'Yes' you think MP should have a couple of months to prove himself, then should get the sack if he doesn't manage it.

[Thedelldays]

Right I'll take that as a 'Yes' you think MP should have a couple of months to prove himself, then should get the sack if he doesn't manage it.

is that what you will be damanding..?

[Sour Mash]

is that what you will be damanding..?

No, I think it's absolutely ridiculous to give a manager a few months to prove himself in a new league. But there are quite a few on here agreeing with NC's logic of judging Adkins that way.

[Halo Stickman]

A good synopsis...

 

http://www.footballcourier.com/news/story/1899080/why-was-nigel-adkins-sacked/full_story.html

 

Interesting - thanks for posting.

[alehouseboys]

It's all worthless bull shine, our so-called fans on here were all for boycotting matches to remind Cortese who matters most. so what happened next, they all chickened out 'cos they can't stand the thought of missing a match they've paid for. So much for morality all hot air in reality.

 

So are you going Monday night or not? In the 'NA Sacked' thread you said you were "shipping out" so I guess you're one of the ones that have burnt their STs (tho you didn't think NA was very "savvy" in the Chelsea build-up).

 

And sorry to ruin your Sunday but Arsenal 2 down at Chelsea HT btw.

[trousers]

A good synopsis...

 

http://www.footballcourier.com/news/story/1899080/why-was-nigel-adkins-sacked/full_story.html

 

Very good read. Does what the press have failed to do - look beneath the surface.

[Dr Who?]

um pahars posits that it is possible to run a successful football club in an effective and efficient manner. There are good examples of well-run clubs to be found around Europe. You can even find some in England. Arsenal are famously well-run; except they now have no "success", at least relative to their all-conquering days in the 2000s. Look at the clubs that have won the Prem lately. Man City - money, mercenaries and egos. Man Utd - leveraged massively on debt. Chelsea - see Man City, but multiply number of managers by 2.

 

Irrespective of whether Financial Fair Play is correctly enforced, there's still going to be a divide on how football clubs are owned and operated. Long term, a solution that would be ideal for many is for the club to be owned by the fans, and have an elected President. I like democracy; I can go with that.

 

Personally, I don't think we've got enough support for this model (yet). The only thing that will garner us support are impressive performances on the pitch. I've still got mates my age who are the biggest Hampshire hogs you'd be like to meet, yet talk about Saints fans as if they're a different f**king breed or from a different f**king planet because they chose a successful football team to support way back when. THEY ARE FROM SOUTHAMPTON! And that sh!t really needs to end.

 

I was only 9/10 at the time, so my memories may be a bit unreliable, but I have never seen Southampton (the city) buzzing about Southampton FC as much as I did in 84/85. I remember seeing people get excited about Saints that were never excited before, and have never been excited since. We need more 84/85s, and we need a trophy.

 

Sad to say, but the reason a lot of the glory-boys end up supporting the likes of Liverpool and Man U is because those teams have had very successful periods. From our perspective, a 84/85 season is an even tougher proposition than it was back then; the top teams often have subs benches that cost as much as the opposition's entire squad. The PL now features some of the best talents around the world.

 

For me, it comes down to a question of what we need more right now. A more democratic decision making process or results on the pitch? I'm perhaps doing the question a disservice by presenting these as mutually exclusive, so let me put it another way. Would a more democratic decision process help to get better results on the pitch?

 

I think the closest to this was the cup final year in 2003, and the season 2003/04 up to Christmas when we were 4th.

 

This was a great time to be a Saints fan, but we failed to push on, WGS left and the rest is history!

 

I have loved the last 3 years, and hope to continue the love in the future.

[Sour Mash]

A good synopsis...

 

http://www.footballcourier.com/news/story/1899080/why-was-nigel-adkins-sacked/full_story.html

So many think Cortese wants control over the way the team play after all, as suggested by many on here previously.

[trousers]

So many think Cortese wants control over the way the team play after all, as suggested by many on here previously.

 

Are we talking team selection here or overall club strategy?

[CanadaSaint]

Very good read. Does what the press have failed to do - look beneath the surface.

 

Yes, that's an excellent piece, and it has a much better air of credibility than the stuff in the mainstream media.

 

Another dimension of Cortese's style that does him no favours is the fact that he doesn't talk to the media - or even, as far as I can tell, leak anything to selected journalists. In fact he shows the same contempt to the media that he shows to the average fan.

 

The two big negatives from that are A) they don't like him much, and B) "his" side of controversial decisions is seldom, if ever, properly aired.

 

It's all very well for Winter to lament the disregard that chairmen have for fans (and I agree with much of what he wrote), but the media are equally culpable: they happily print without knowledge, present uninformed opinions as cast-iron facts, invite input from people with personal axes to grind, and some even knowingly print lies.

 

The footballcourier article is the most objective article I've seen yet. It doesn't explain or excuse Cortese's abysmal handling of the issue but it does get past the uninformed veneer we see from the mainstream media.

[Sour Mash]

Are we talking team selection here or overall club strategy?

Well was an issue that Adkins varied our formation at times or not?

[Whitey Grandad]

NC gave the manager that had got him two promotions in two years a couple of months in the Premier League to learn and develop into a Premier League manager. I assume NC will also give MP just a couple of months as well to prove himself by your logic another sacking would be sensible?

 

Well we certainly can't afford another two months like the first two of this season.

[Crab Lungs]

One of the best bits I've read...;

 

Patrick Collins (Mail on Sunday): "As football managers go, Nigel Adkins is an unusual chap. He doesn't scream at referees, strike theatrical poses, blame players for his own shortcomings or behave as if the world revolved around Nigel Adkins. Instead, he seems refreshingly normal and rather good at his job. In 26 months at Southampton, he lifted his team by 51 places and won them two promotions. But those promotions were his biggest mistake. For suddenly, Southampton began to be noticed. The chairman, one Nicola Cortese, came scampering towards the spotlight; a minor clown in search of a major role. Instead of enjoying extraordinary progress, he started to make deluded decisions, like looking for a new manager. Four games into Southampton's unbeaten run, he found him. The new man is Mauricio Pochettino, who speaks little English and has just been sacked by Espanyol after a relatively brief but notably unsuccessful tenure. Adkins has won overwhelming sympathy but his record ensures that he will soon find congenial employment. As for Cortese, renewed obscurity beckons. He will not be missed."

[CanadaSaint]

It's all worthless bull shine, our so-called fans on here were all for boycotting matches to remind Cortese who matters most. so what happened next, they all chickened out 'cos they can't stand the thought of missing a match they've paid for. So much for morality all hot air in reality.

 

Nothing will change lemmings will still queue up to jump over cliffs - we are as one? - and just as predictably Saints 'fans' will be queuing up to get into the amphitheatre so that Cortese can heap more **** all over them whilst telling them nothing and ignoring their interests or needs or views.

 

I guess you need reminding - again - about your November post:

 

Two more point down the drain, how much longer can this farcical situation continue before Adkins is put out of his misery? There are no positives when you're chasing 40 points, at this rate we won't even get 20.

 

I'm afraid the "Going down" taunt applies more realistically every week. If we are going to change the coaching people let's get on a FFFing well do it and at least give the new people a fighting chance of keeping us up. Indecision is ruining us. Come on Cortese sort put your mess!

 

I can handle opinions that differ from my own. What I can't handle is gutless hypocrisy.

[ottery st mary]

Can't wait for the CRAAAP to come from the Echo...

[CB Fry]

One of the best bits I've read...;

 

 

 

Spot on. Will upset the "pragmatic" Cortese hero worshippers on here though.

 

In five years time Cortese will be a distant memory. Forgotten and not missed.

[Frank's cousin]

No, I think it's absolutely ridiculous to give a manager a few months to prove himself in a new league. But there are quite a few on here agreeing with NC's logic of judging Adkins that way.

 

No different from most fans only giving the likes of Luggy a few games?

[um pahars]

is that what you will be damanding..?

 

Are you asking in a Jamaican accent man????

[Frank's cousin]

One of the best bits I've read...;

 

One of the best bits I've read...;

 

 

Patrick Collins (Mail on Sunday): "As football managers go, Nigel Adkins is an unusual chap. He doesn't scream at referees, strike theatrical poses, blame players for his own shortcomings or behave as if the world revolved around Nigel Adkins. Instead, he seems refreshingly normal and rather good at his job. In 26 months at Southampton, he lifted his team by 51 places and won them two promotions. But those promotions were his biggest mistake. For suddenly, Southampton began to be noticed. The chairman, one Nicola Cortese, came scampering towards the spotlight; a minor clown in search of a major role. Instead of enjoying extraordinary progress, he started to make deluded decisions, like looking for a new manager. Four games into Southampton's unbeaten run, he found him. The new man is Mauricio Pochettino, who speaks little English and has just been sacked by Espanyol after a

relatively brief but notably unsuccessful tenure.

Adkins has won overwhelming sympathy but his record ensures that he will soon find congenial employment. As for Cortese, renewed obscurity beckons. He will not be missed."

 

I would have though Patrick Collins would have recognised that the two issues should be judged seperately - and then done his homework on MP - who had Espanyol 8th on limited resources and then to see 10 players sold the following season.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Frank's cousin]

perhaps one failing its does highlight is the imporatnce of having the media on side - had NC been pally with them, perhaps the media would be offering a little more balanced perspective rather than @As for Cortese, renewed obscurity beckons. He will not be missed' - a cheap shot from a journo I thought better than that. No one has asked the questions for why NC has made these decsions, instead wollowing in the same emotive rhetoric.

[CanadaSaint]

perhaps one failing its does highlight is the imporatnce of having the media on side - had NC been pally with them' date=' perhaps the media would be offering a little more balanced perspective rather than @As for Cortese, renewed obscurity beckons. He will not be missed' - a cheap shot from a journo I thought better than that. No one has asked the questions for why NC has made these decsions, instead wollowing in the same emotive rhetoric.[/quote']

 

Absolutely. Cortese doesn't just "not have them onside" - his attitude and manner regarding the media have actually placed them on the other side; they wouldn't give him a spot if they had the measles. But he's reaping his own crop here - he caused the problem but he's too arrogant and self-opinionated to resolve it. In fact, if anything he's making it worse with every decision. It's a vicious circle.

[Frank's cousin]

Absolutely. Cortese doesn't just "not have them onside" - his attitude and manner regarding the media have actually placed them on the other side; they wouldn't give him a spot if they had the measles. But he's reaping his own crop here - he caused the problem but he's too arrogant and self-opinionated to resolve it. In fact, if anything he's making it worse with every decision. It's a vicious circle.

 

True, but you need to remember where he is from. Swiss banking and Swiss business in general is usually adverse to media intrusion and like to conduct ts business privately - given the reputation of the British media for said intrusion, its not surprizing that there was little trust from the out set.

[Crab Lungs]

Davis toeing the official line because he has a job for life? Who knows, but the media reports about players being left angry and confused is nearer the mark from what I've been told. And that's why I'm so f()cking angry. Ah well.

[Whitey Grandad]

Absolutely. Cortese doesn't just "not have them onside" - his attitude and manner regarding the media have actually placed them on the other side; they wouldn't give him a spot if they had the measles. But he's reaping his own crop here - he caused the problem but he's too arrogant and self-opinionated to resolve it. In fact, if anything he's making it worse with every decision. It's a vicious circle.

 

Yes, he doesn't understand the football culture in England.

[the saint in winchester]

A quote I heard

 

Players Play

Managers Manage

Supporters Support,

 

Who did I hear saying that in an interview?

 

 

Lawrie Mac .............

 

Don't think it was Lawrie. Pretty sure it was Gordon Strachan towards the end of his time with us. He was getting pee'd off with Lowe's interference and he said "Directors should direct, managers manage ....etc. "

[Halo Stickman]

On the other hand, negative media coverage, especially the stuff spewed out by the broadcast media which doesn’t differentiate between the chairman and the rest of the club - i.e. ‘hope Southampton get relegated for what they’ve done’ – could simply produce a bunker mentality in large sections of the fan base, which would suit Cortese just fine.

[modern matron]

http://www.talksport.co.uk/radio/hawksbee-and-jacobs/130118/balague-southampton-fans-will-have-be-patient-pochettino-189616?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Podcast-Southampton+(Podcast+-+Club+-+Southampton)

 

Interesting interview with Balague on Maurice...

[Crab Lungs]

http://www.talksport.co.uk/radio/hawksbee-and-jacobs/130118/balague-southampton-fans-will-have-be-patient-pochettino-189616?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Podcast-Southampton+(Podcast+-+Club+-+Southampton)

 

Interesting interview with Balague on Maurice...

 

Thanks for that, interesting indeed

[JRM]

Henry Winter's article is very good but makes one crucial mistake comparing Cortese to Abramovich , Cortese isn't a rich benefactor he is just going at spending other people's money , first the Liebherrs and now the large loan from the British Virgin Islands , that money will be paid back from our ticket money , all Cortese does it take a large salary OUT of the club and put his wife's extravagance on club account through expenses.

[Turkish]

Henry Winter's article is very good but makes one crucial mistake comparing Cortese to Abramovich , Cortese isn't a rich benefactor he is just going at spending other people's money , first the Liebherrs and now the large loan from the British Virgin Islands , that money will be paid back from our ticket money , all Cortese does it take a large salary OUT of the club and put his wife's extravagance on club account through expenses.

 

Yep. He's an employee drawing a huge salary for doing job using his mates credit card. IIRC the biggest salary Lowe took out of the club was £250k, that was the year we finished 8th in the premir league. Corteses wage in L1 was c£600k before all the expenses he put through the club.

[Sour Mash]

http://www.talksport.co.uk/radio/hawksbee-and-jacobs/130118/balague-southampton-fans-will-have-be-patient-pochettino-189616?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Podcast-Southampton+(Podcast+-+Club+-+Southampton)

 

Interesting interview with Balague on Maurice...

Decent interview, but just to point out, Balague is a good mate of MP.

[trousers]

Decent interview, but just to point out, Balague is a good mate of MP.

 

MLT hates Cortese. Should we caveat his words too?

[trousers]

TalkSport just about to discuss the "Situation at Southampton"

[ottery st mary]

Yep. He's an employee drawing a huge salary for doing job using his mates credit card. IIRC the biggest salary Lowe took out of the club was £250k, that was the year we finished 8th in the premir league. Corteses wage in L1 was c£600k before all the expenses he put through the club.

 

 

Not sure where you get his wages and exspenses from?

 

Maybe I missed it,,,,,but from records no trace of his wages or expenses.

 

Maybe he gets paid from a seperate company...

 

Then again I am not really very good at reading company accounts..

 

You experts know more about this sort of thing than me..

 

Plus...Rupert took out much more than 250,000 grand a year......

 

Then again I might have been mis reading what I saw.....

 

I am always careful about the bolluuxx talked on here...

 

Sometimes my info is boolluxx so yours might be more accurate..

[mitch01]

I haven't had much time to write recently, but this warranted making some sacrifices to do so. If anybody has a couple of minutes spare, take a look:

 

http://notplayedonpaper.blogspot.co.uk/2013/01/adkins-cortese-and-why-we-keep-coming.html

[Sour Mash]

MLT hates Cortese. Should we caveat his words too?

If you want, but not quite the same is it? How long is the list of Le Tiss's "enemies"? I can think of only one.

[Sour Mash]

Yep. He's an employee drawing a huge salary for doing job using his mates credit card. IIRC the biggest salary Lowe took out of the club was £250k, that was the year we finished 8th in the premir league. Corteses wage in L1 was c£600k before all the expenses he put through the club.

The £600k was for half a year IIRC. All the expenses put through the club is correct as you know.