Saints Warrior Posted 20 January, 2013 Posted 20 January, 2013 I really like the last comment, and agree with mark lawrenson for once. This new manager will be lucky to get us 1 point from 15. Saints 0 Everton 2 For Adkins to go at this stage of the season, and with his side on a good run of five league games unbeaten and out of the relegation zone, is very strange indeed. In fact it is a decision that beggars belief. Pochettino arrives at St Mary's not knowing anything about his players, or with any Premier League experience. He is going to get a crash course, and with a little bit of luck he might even know a few of their names by the time this game kicks off.
John Boy Saint Posted 20 January, 2013 Posted 20 January, 2013 Obviously didn't hear the damning revaluation in the press conference that Pochetino has been researching the players for a few weeks.
Colinjb Posted 20 January, 2013 Posted 20 January, 2013 Pochettino arrives at St Mary's not knowing anything about his players, or with any Premier League experience Lawrenson is a blinkered scouse clown. I would put more value in the opinion of Neil Allen then him.
Restark19 Posted 20 January, 2013 Posted 20 January, 2013 I really like the last comment, and agree with mark lawrenson for once. This new manager will be lucky to get us 1 point from 15. Hope you're joking, if not you appear to be an absolute tit
Pugwash Posted 20 January, 2013 Posted 20 January, 2013 Quite heartening really, as Lawrenson's predictions are rarely correct!! How's the 'tache Mark?
trousers Posted 20 January, 2013 Posted 20 January, 2013 He was predicting 0-2 before Adkins was sacked
Colinjb Posted 20 January, 2013 Posted 20 January, 2013 Typical BBC anti-Saints bias. Not really, just a symptom of their poor employment policy. Please Kraken, don't you descend into parody too.....
The Kraken Posted 20 January, 2013 Posted 20 January, 2013 Not really, just a symptom of their poor employment policy. Please Kraken, don't you descend into parody too..... As much as Lawro is a complete bell-sniff, he does actually talk sense sometimes. If you can tell me what is incorrect about what he said here I'd be interested: "For Adkins to go at this stage of the season, and with his side on a good run of five league games unbeaten and out of the relegation zone, is very strange indeed. In fact it is a decision that beggars belief. Pochettino arrives at St Mary's not knowing anything about his players, or with any Premier League experience. He is going to get a crash course, and with a little bit of luck he might even know a few of their names by the time this game kicks off." Seems entirely reasonable to me.
Colinjb Posted 20 January, 2013 Posted 20 January, 2013 (edited) As much as Lawro is a complete bell-sniff, he does actually talk sense sometimes. If you can tell me what is incorrect about what he said here I'd be interested: "For Adkins to go at this stage of the season, and with his side on a good run of five league games unbeaten and out of the relegation zone, is very strange indeed. In fact it is a decision that beggars belief. Pochettino arrives at St Mary's not knowing anything about his players, or with any Premier League experience. He is going to get a crash course, and with a little bit of luck he might even know a few of their names by the time this game kicks off." Seems entirely reasonable to me. He is focusing entirely on the sacking of Adkins and not at all on the confessed (and somewhat distasteful) recon that Pochettino has already done on our squad and league. Lawrenson's manner is condescending, vulgar and smug. Edited 20 January, 2013 by Colinjb
The Kraken Posted 20 January, 2013 Posted 20 January, 2013 He is focusing entirely on the sacking of Adkins and not at all on the confessed (and somewhat distasteful) recon that Pochettino has already done on our squad and league. If the new boss knows all the squad's names on his first day then I'd be impressed with that, however much of a throwaway and supposedly humourous comment that was supposed to be. Its a fair point as far as I'm concerned; his first day of training was today, he admitted himself he doesn't speak the language fluently.
Colinjb Posted 20 January, 2013 Posted 20 January, 2013 If the new boss knows all the squad's names on his first day then I'd be impressed with that, however much of a throwaway and supposedly humourous comment that was supposed to be. Its a fair point as far as I'm concerned; his first day of training was today, he admitted himself he doesn't speak the language fluently. He wouldn't have made the comment if he had properly researched the situation, the throwaway comment just highlights his ignorance. But of course he didn't need to actually do some digging did he, his reputation should be enough for him.
The Kraken Posted 20 January, 2013 Posted 20 January, 2013 He wouldn't have made the comment if he had properly researched the situation, the throwaway comment just highlights his ignorance. But of course he didn't need to actually do some digging did he, his reputation should be enough for him. Researched it? I'm still not sure myself that the manager knows everyone's name. Certainly not of the whole squad; he's had one day of training. And all that without having a full grasp of the language. You have more faith than I do; we can onlu hope that the duplicitous stance to approach a new manager before dispensing with the previous one was done well in advance.
Colinjb Posted 20 January, 2013 Posted 20 January, 2013 Researched it? I'm still not sure myself that the manager knows everyone's name. Certainly not of the whole squad; he's had one day of training. And all that without having a full grasp of the language. You have more faith than I do; we can onlu hope that the duplicitous stance to approach a new manager before dispensing with the previous one was done well in advance. The hear'say points in that direction. There are too many 'coincidences,' the link to Coutinho, Spanish twitter reports, the immediate replacement of Adkins to say that it could have been anything but planned in advance. Pochettino will have had time to prepare and research, if he is anything close to the reports on him he will have at least been that professional.
SNSUN Posted 20 January, 2013 Posted 20 January, 2013 9/10 from 15 would win the fans over, and looking at the fixtures, that amount is doable. It's at the end of these 5 games that we'll really know if this appointment was a chairmans masterstroke or a massive balls up.
Windmill Arm 2 Posted 20 January, 2013 Posted 20 January, 2013 Lawrenson : "There's no way Ramirez will go to Southampton"
Andy Durman Posted 20 January, 2013 Posted 20 January, 2013 If Adkins was being replaced by say Ferguson or Mourinho would Lawrenson be so disrespectful. Maybe we have the next great world manager?
Shroppie Posted 20 January, 2013 Posted 20 January, 2013 If Adkins was being replaced by say Ferguson or Mourinho would Lawrenson be so disrespectful. Maybe we have the next great world manager? More likely we've just sacked the next great world manager.
Baldbarbarian Posted 20 January, 2013 Posted 20 January, 2013 I refer back to my comment on Lawrenson last week, he is a first class tit
paulwantsapint Posted 20 January, 2013 Posted 20 January, 2013 Seem to remember WGS admitting to not knowing the difference between Claus & Jo Tessem when he 1st arrived Lawrie Mac spoke Geordie Alan Ball squeaked Hoddle spouted b0110cks WGS/ Souness spoke a version of Scottish Adkins spoke fluent Adkins MP admits to researching the team for a few weeks which suggests he will have had lessons in speaking English I am hoping that MP will have successfully raided la liga before the transfer deadline
CB Fry Posted 20 January, 2013 Posted 20 January, 2013 If Adkins was being replaced by say Ferguson or Mourinho would Lawrenson be so disrespectful. Maybe we have the next great world manager? The original Lawro piece on this match from Friday morning was actually about what a fine job Nigel has done. It's been changed in light of revent events of course. You wallies can squinny on but everything Lawro says is fair enough. Had you heard of this bloke on Thursday evening? If he'd just been unveiled as the new, say, Villa manager would you be on here calling him "the next great world manager"? I'd wager not.
Stud mark of doom Posted 20 January, 2013 Posted 20 January, 2013 Lawrenson : "There's no way Ramirez will go to Southampton" Also, Last time I looked, the league table according to lawro's predictions had QPR challenging for the champions league. He is an embarrassment. No doubt the BBC are paying him (tens of?) thousands a week for his expert input.
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 20 January, 2013 Posted 20 January, 2013 Unlike some on here I've always rather liked Mark Lawrenson, both as a player and entertaining TV pundit/commentator. If his predictions aren't all that much better than the guesses any of us might make ... well you lot try calling the scoreline ten games every week and see how many you get right. It would seem that Lawrenson has entirely discounted the possibility of us getting the traditional 'new manager bounce' tomorrow - given the record of incoming Saints managers, that may well be one of the safest predictions he'll ever make.
pilsburydoughboy Posted 20 January, 2013 Posted 20 January, 2013 I really like the last comment, and agree with mark lawrenson for once. This new manager will be lucky to get us 1 point from 15. Saints 0 Everton 2 For Adkins to go at this stage of the season, and with his side on a good run of five league games unbeaten and out of the relegation zone, is very strange indeed. In fact it is a decision that beggars belief. Pochettino arrives at St Mary's not knowing anything about his players, or with any Premier League experience. He is going to get a crash course, and with a little bit of luck he might even know a few of their names by the time this game kicks off. Lawro What a **** His record as a manager hardly puts him in a position to comment on any other Managers Just for the record it looks like he has been on the **** since Christmas judging by the state of him on MOTD last night
egg Posted 20 January, 2013 Posted 20 January, 2013 What's objectionable about that article? Seems perfectly fair and accurate to me. Lawro can be a tool but some of you lot need to understand that the truth isn't anti saints bias or unprofessional reporting etc.
scotty Posted 20 January, 2013 Posted 20 January, 2013 What's objectionable about that article? Seems perfectly fair and accurate to me. Lawro can be a tool but some of you lot need to understand that the truth isn't anti saints bias or unprofessional reporting etc. The bit about MP knowing nothing about the players is probably wrong, I imagine he has actually done the research he claims to have. Lawrensons a prat imho. Spouts opinions as if they were gospel, I notice he hasn't said much about Ramirez after flatly dismissing the possibility that he might consider joining us.
egg Posted 20 January, 2013 Posted 20 January, 2013 The bit about MP knowing nothing about the players is probably wrong, I imagine he has actually done the research he claims to have. Lawrensons a prat imho. Spouts opinions as if they were gospel, I notice he hasn't said much about Ramirez after flatly dismissing the possibility that he might consider joining us. He'll have watched videos of matches, and possibly training, but he won't know the players. He'll struggle to put names to all faces. He won't know their personalities, how able they are to act on instructions etc etc. Moreover he won't have a rapport with them and is unlikely to have earned their respect. Lawro was wrong about Ramirez, and can be a tool but he's right in this article.
scotty Posted 20 January, 2013 Posted 20 January, 2013 He'll have watched videos of matches, and possibly training, but he won't know the players. He'll struggle to put names to all faces. He won't know their personalities, how able they are to act on instructions etc etc. Moreover he won't have a rapport with them and is unlikely to have earned their respect. Lawro was wrong about Ramirez, and can be a tool but he's right in this article. I agree, but that doesnt mean he knows absolutely nothing about the players, does it? I knew nothing about Pochettino until friday, he must know something about our players.
trousers Posted 20 January, 2013 Posted 20 January, 2013 (edited) Unlike some on here I've always rather liked Mark Lawrenson, both as a player and entertaining TV pundit/commentator. If his predictions aren't all that much better than the guesses any of us might make ... well you lot try calling the scoreline ten games every week and see how many you get right. It would seem that Lawrenson has entirely discounted the possibility of us getting the traditional 'new manager bounce' tomorrow - given the record of incoming Saints managers, that may well be one of the safest predictions he'll ever make. He predicted a 0-2 defeat before the news about Adkins broke. He hasn't changed that prediction ergo he doesn't believe the change of manager will have an effect on the outcome of the game. However, no doubt if we end up losing 0-2 as he predicts there will be a section of fans saying: "There you go, Lawro was right about the negative impact of Adkins' sacking"... Lawro suggests changing the manager will have a negative impact yet doesn't reflect that in his prediction. Edited 20 January, 2013 by trousers
saintfully Posted 20 January, 2013 Posted 20 January, 2013 More likely we've just sacked the next great world manager. Ahem... As good a manager as Adkins is, I think this may be going a little too far. At present it seems to me his best quality is his preparedness to learn from his mistakes - which he made plenty of at the beginning of the season. Whether he will continue to learn remains to be seen.
Tokyo-Saint Posted 20 January, 2013 Posted 20 January, 2013 More likely we've just sacked the next great world manager. *painfull laugh* If this was so possibly true, it would be funny.
Window Cleaner Posted 20 January, 2013 Posted 20 January, 2013 I agree, but that doesnt mean he knows absolutely nothing about the players, does it? I knew nothing about Pochettino until friday, he must know something about our players. probably seen every one of our games since last November and videos of all the others this season.
Dalek2003 Posted 20 January, 2013 Posted 20 January, 2013 Seem to remember WGS admitting to not knowing the difference between Claus & Jo Tessem when he 1st arrived Lawrie Mac spoke Geordie Alan Ball squeaked Hoddle spouted b0110cks WGS/ Souness spoke a version of Scottish Adkins spoke fluent Adkins MP admits to researching the team for a few weeks which suggests he will have had lessons in speaking English I am hoping that MP will have successfully raided la liga before the transfer deadline If you look at the statistical analysis, Hoddle was one of our most successful managers so perhaps our new manager would be a advised to spout bo11ocks !
scotty Posted 20 January, 2013 Posted 20 January, 2013 If you look at the statistical analysis, Hoddle was one of our most successful managers so perhaps our new manager would be a advised to spout bo11ocks ! How would we know?
egg Posted 20 January, 2013 Posted 20 January, 2013 I agree, but that doesnt mean he knows absolutely nothing about the players, does it? I knew nothing about Pochettino until friday, he must know something about our players. Yes, he'll know they're footballers and will know about as much as we all can gauge from watching players on video and YouTube. De Ridder looked sh!t hot on video but looks plain sh!t in the flesh, for example. Ok, he'll know something about some of our players. He won't know enough about them all though and I think that's the valid point that was being made.
Cricketphilly Posted 20 January, 2013 Posted 20 January, 2013 Researched it? I'm still not sure myself that the manager knows everyone's name. Certainly not of the whole squad; he's had one day of training. And all that without having a full grasp of the language. You have more faith than I do; we can onlu hope that the duplicitous stance to approach a new manager before dispensing with the previous one was done well in advance. Are not the coaching staff still in place? I cannnot see MP making radical changes. It will much of a muchness, he's been brought in for the long term
CB Fry Posted 20 January, 2013 Posted 20 January, 2013 Are not the coaching staff still in place? I cannnot see MP making radical changes. It will much of a muchness, he's been brought in for the long term They were all sacked with Nigel, I belive.
Maggie May Posted 20 January, 2013 Posted 20 January, 2013 Lawrenson is a blinkered scouse clown. I would put more value in the opinion of Neil Allen then him. You've done it again, using someone's background/orientation in a derogatory manner.
Cricketphilly Posted 20 January, 2013 Posted 20 January, 2013 They were all sacked with Nigel, I belive. Really!? That b*ggers my theory then, thanks.
Sour Mash Posted 20 January, 2013 Posted 20 January, 2013 Obviously didn't hear the damning revaluation in the press conference that Pochetino has been researching the players for a few weeks. ANd by the sound of it scouting/picking new transfer targets for a while. Unbelievable.
Cricketphilly Posted 20 January, 2013 Posted 20 January, 2013 ANd by the sound of it scouting/picking new transfer targets for a while. Unbelievable. Forgetting the collusion, would you not rather then new manager comes in prepared?
trousers Posted 20 January, 2013 Posted 20 January, 2013 ANd by the sound of it scouting/picking new transfer targets for a while. Unbelievable. A business having a continuity plan....madness....
Polaroid Saint Posted 20 January, 2013 Posted 20 January, 2013 Whether right or wrong, MP has been studying videos and stats from saints for weeks. This does not mean he has been watching YouTube FFS. Saints have one of the most sophisticated systems for recording player stats and comparing to video of any sports team in the world. I would imagine MP is using this data. This use of video/stats is also touted as one of MPs 'specialities'.
badgerx16 Posted 20 January, 2013 Posted 20 January, 2013 So many 'experts' writing MP off before a ball has been kicked. NC sees this as progress and improvement, at the moment his is the only opinion that counts.
ottery st mary Posted 20 January, 2013 Posted 20 January, 2013 MP knows all the players names except Rikeeeee...who for some reason calls Scouse. OR was it Lambkins..
CB Fry Posted 20 January, 2013 Posted 20 January, 2013 So many 'experts' writing MP off before a ball has been kicked. NC sees this as progress and improvement, at the moment his is the only opinion that counts. Like who? I think some are a bit annoyed that Nigel Adkins has been written off after quite a lot of successful balls have been kicked. This desperation on here for the media to start gushing about what a masterstroke this all is is nothing short of mental. We've sacked a good man for no reason and replaced him with an unknown. The media, like most normal human beings, don't actually think this is a brilliant move by an undeniable genius. If you want bland unquestioning "super Saints are simply super" spin, then my advise to you is never ever leave the official site. You'll be safe there.
ottery st mary Posted 20 January, 2013 Posted 20 January, 2013 I was gutted when Pardew was moved out...but got over it.. And Pearson..took me a while to come to terms with.. NA...gutted but over it already.. MP is my club Manager and fully behind him already.. COYS
badgerx16 Posted 20 January, 2013 Posted 20 January, 2013 Like who? Well Lawrenson's quotes are condescending at the least. For 'experts' you can lump in all of those who now hope that Saints will be relegated, and that seems to include many on here after reading some of the guff that was spouted in the 24 hours following the managerial change. Yes Nigel Adkins is a nice bloke and the team seemed to have turned the corner, yes MP is an unknown in the EPL, and NC does come over as a complete ****, but I'll say it again - our opinions count for jack sh!t, only Nicola's bears any weight, and he sees this as improvement. It's not the players' fault - so talking of protesting and potentially disrupting Monday's game is counter productive. All we can do is take a lesson from the great NA - draw a blue line under this event and move on. Football, especially in the EPL, is not what it was 40+ years ago when I first walked into The Dell, SKY has seen to that. But regardless of the commercialisation and p!ssing about with kick off times, I want MY TEAM to win every game. This is my opinion and you are entitled to hold an alternative view.
Leicestersaint Posted 20 January, 2013 Posted 20 January, 2013 I was gutted when Pardew was moved out...but got over it.. And Pearson..took me a while to come to terms with.. NA...gutted but over it already.. MP is my club Manager and fully behind him already.. COYS Thank you Mr Superficial!
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