OldNick Posted 20 January, 2013 Share Posted 20 January, 2013 Right, so how is Cortese losing out financially? Apart from maybe not getting a fat bonus on-top of his already huge salary?well a big fat bonus for one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 20 January, 2013 Share Posted 20 January, 2013 I didn't know NC thought that fans have no impact. I have always believed fans mindset has a massive effect on the team.some think not,but any club who has the fans on your back is negative to the team and I'm sure Moyes is delighted to whip the frenzy up,Sky will love it as well. So should NC care about supporter's opinions or not? We're told on this thread that he does what he wants and our opinions don't matter, but then we're also told that we can't say or do anything "negative" due to the impact it might have. You can't have it both ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 20 January, 2013 Share Posted 20 January, 2013 well a big fat bonus for one. I'm sure his £1m + a year will keep him going for a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delmary Posted 20 January, 2013 Share Posted 20 January, 2013 Some things are more important to a football club than a one-off 3 points anyway. Reality check. We're in a relegation battle, we can't afford to drop points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 20 January, 2013 Share Posted 20 January, 2013 Reality check. We're in a relegation battle, we can't afford to drop points. Reality check. Singing "one Nigel Adkins" won't cause us to drop points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 20 January, 2013 Share Posted 20 January, 2013 I think the subtext of this thread is the worry that we've just had the first of several Steve Kean moments. There WILL be protest chants tomorrow, no question. This WILL grow if Cortese is wrong, both about NA's dreadful sacking and about this appointment. No pleading for calm on here is going to stop it. Personally, I hope to hell Cortese has pulled off some sort of master stroke, because the alternative doesn't bear thinking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delmary Posted 20 January, 2013 Share Posted 20 January, 2013 Reality check. Singing "one Nigel Adkins" won't cause us to drop points. I don't have a problem signing Nigel's name. That's not protesting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mirrorcarp Posted 20 January, 2013 Share Posted 20 January, 2013 So should NC care about supporter's opinions or not? We're told on this thread that he does what he wants and our opinions don't matter, but then we're also told that we can't say or do anything "negative" due to the impact it might have. You can't have it both ways. Who gives a f**k what cortese thinks. Lets just rise above it and 100% support the team to 3 more points. How can negativity possibly be positive for the team, and at the end of the day the team is everything. Im sure Adkins would like us to stay up. He will rise above it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.JonB Posted 20 January, 2013 Share Posted 20 January, 2013 So if we go down this season it will be the fans fault will it? The only reason we might go down is because of this terrible decision to sack Adkins. The fans will do their best to get behind the team; but if things go wrong the atmosphere will be hostile. The anger will not be the fans fault; you need to blame the person who casued the anger. This is one massive gamble by Cortese. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 20 January, 2013 Share Posted 20 January, 2013 No, you re-read this forum. Plenty are proposing exactly that in various threads. Well done on finding a few to support your argument. The great majority are hacked off with NC. Nothing more than that and we dont suddenly want the team to do badly. You feel free to roll over and take it if you wish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintpat Posted 20 January, 2013 Share Posted 20 January, 2013 Chanting for Nigel is not a protest. It is the only way the fans can publicly thank one of the best managers we have ever had. It would be a travesty if Saints fans did not sing for Nigel at points, before, during and after the game. It won't negatively affect the players, they will expect it and most would probably be disappointed if we didn't and would probably like to join in. Without doubt, the fans(and the players) need to move on from the latest shenanigans but tomorrow we need to show our support for Nigel- as well as the team. The team will want to win for the fans and the team but they will also want to win for Nigel tomorrow. After tomorrows game we need to move on, the players and the new manager will need all the help they can get. The game I am looking forward to most(whenever it may happen) is when Nigel returns as opposition manager, then Saints fans can give him the reception he fully deserves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 20 January, 2013 Share Posted 20 January, 2013 Who gives a f**k what cortese thinks. Lets just rise above it and 100% support the team to 3 more points. How can negativity possibly be positive for the team, and at the end of the day the team is everything. Im sure Adkins would like us to stay up. He will rise above it. So you won't sing any songs in support of Nigel Adkins? How did the anti-Glazier protests affect Man Utd's on the pitch performances? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mirrorcarp Posted 20 January, 2013 Share Posted 20 January, 2013 So you won't sing any songs in support of Nigel Adkins? How did the anti-Glazier protests affect Man Utd's on the pitch performances? Quite the opposite,i think saintpats has hit the nail on the head. However calling NC a c**t and waving hankies in the air will in the long run not be very helpful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorkie Posted 20 January, 2013 Share Posted 20 January, 2013 Duncan I have only bothered to read your opening post - I can't be bothered to trawl through all the rest! I have to agree with you protests are pointless! We got our club back once we got to League 1 after all the upset of 2-relegations and administration and the comedy Dutch duo! That's when the "real" fans showed themselves. The trip to Wembley made up for not making the play-offs, and the change after a 4-0 away win in Bristol was as big a shock as the events of this week. I don't think the fans have much to do these days with the wealth of the club with the millions pumped in by SKY. The games are easy to follow on internet streams - infact I haven't missed a game all season. All I have missed has been the travelling to games, a couple of beers pre-match, the singing and the general experience of going to a game. When fans become treated like customers and not the life blood of the club - it becomes less appealing to get off the sofa and attend. Saying all that I will be going to Wigan and it will be the best Saturday of the season so far. The only other game I have bothered with this season was Leeds in the League Cup (and we all remember what happened there). Rather than protest I would like to see Monday night turn into a celebration for all Nigel Adkins achieved in his tenure. For the five minutes before the game celebrate and then when the game starts get right behind the team. Show Cortese we are the reason his business exists and without us the club will die! If you want to bouycott a game - make it the last home game of the season if we are safe. I would go as far to suggest the internet police go to the stadium and physically stop any season ticket holder from attending!!!! See you all at Wigan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 20 January, 2013 Share Posted 20 January, 2013 What I find sad is that if Lowe had done these things there would be a meltdown but for some reason Cortese is given licence to act in an even worse fashion (in my book). Making us look like Liverpool in our first season back in the Prem was a pretty poor shown and if it is true that Adkins found out that he lost his job via the media that is appalling. Protest or not it doesn't make any difference, the guy running the show is worse than Lowe as far as I can see. I would rather still be in the Championship and be a family club than sign up for Cortese's vision of te future thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musesaint Posted 20 January, 2013 Share Posted 20 January, 2013 (edited) After Friday’s events several things are clear. Firstly, no amount of ranting and protesting on Monday will make one iota of difference to either Cortese or, more importantly, to what has happened. The decision isn’t going to be reversed. We are where we are. Secondly, we all need to reflect on the fact Saints remain (with or without Nigel Adkins) at a potentially pivotal point in our season. What happens in the next month or so is likely to determine the future of Saints in the Premier League – not just this season but potentially long beyond. If we stay up this season there is every reason to believe the future for the club is bright – very bright indeed. Imagine not only producing young players of ability like Bale, Walcott, Oxlade Chamberlain, Lallana, Shaw, Ward Prowse and many others – but actually being able to consistently keep them at the club. If we go down, the majority of our best players will leave and no one would criticise many of them for doing so. If we go down the club may never recover. What Cortese has done, and the manner in which he has done it, is about a subtle as an atom bomb. However, what we do not need now is division and animosity. Controversial for many though Cortese may be, it cannot be disputed that he has consistently been prepared to act decisively (and often ruthlessly) when the interests of the club require. We frequently may not like his decisions but he has more often than not been proven right when others have been wrong. Nigel Adkins has undoubtedly be dealt with very harshly and I feel truly sorry for him. So on Monday I will be at SMS and I will join in the early “One Nigel Adkins” chants - because the man deserves recognition for what he has done for our club. Beyond that, however, I will get behind our players, our club and our - and I stress the word "our" - new manager. We need three points on Monday. Let’s not undermine the chances of our getting them by tearing ourselves apart in full view of the national media. We are better than Chelski - and we have far fewer points to squander! Edited 20 January, 2013 by musesaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delmary Posted 20 January, 2013 Share Posted 20 January, 2013 After Friday’s events several things are clear. Firstly, no amount of ranting and protesting on Monday will make one iota of difference to either Cortese or, more importantly, to what has happened. The decision isn’t going to be reversed. We are where we are. Secondly, we all need to reflect on the fact Saints remain (with or without Nigel Adkins) at a potentially pivotal point in our season. What happens in the next month or so is likely to determine the future of Saints in the Premier League – not just this season but potentially long beyond. If we stay up this season there is every reason to believe the future for the club is bright – very bright indeed. Imagine not only producing young players of ability like Bale, Walcott, Oxlade Chamberlain, Lallana, Shaw, Ward Prowse and many others – but actually being able to consistently keep them at the club. If we go down, the majority of our best players will leave and no one would criticise many of them for doing so. If we go down the club may never recover. What Cortese has done, and the manner in which he has done it, is about a subtle as an atom bomb. However, what we do not need now is division and animosity. Controversial for many though Cortese may be, it cannot be disputed that he has consistently been prepared to act decisively (and often ruthlessly) when the interests of the club require. We frequently may not like his decisions but he has more often than not been proven right when others have been wrong. Nigel Adkins has undoubtedly be dealt with very harshly and I feel truly sorry for him. So on Monday I will be at SMS and I will join in the early “One Nigel Adkins” chants - because the man deserves recognition for what he has done for our club. Beyond that, however, I will get behind our players, our club and our - and I stress the word "our" - new manager. We need three points on Monday. Let’s not undermine the chances of our getting them by tearing ourselves apart in full view of the national media. We are better than Chelski - and we have far fewer points to squander! Best post of the day! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 20 January, 2013 Author Share Posted 20 January, 2013 I've been saying the same thing since the takeover as well Duncan but some people just don't get it. Everybody is free to protest their dissatisfaction if they are not happy but it is falling on deaf ears and you are wasting your time,cortese will do what he thinks is right to maximise the value of the club for the liebher family and he won't be fazed or swayed by a few hundred fans singing silly songs,throwing their season tickets on the pitch or posing for an echo photographer whilst putting on an angry face and crossing your arms. Some have said 'would you kick up a fuss if cortese changed our colours to blue and moved to Belfast etc etc'......well yes I think everybody would but it wouldn't change a thing,if cortese thinks it will make the investment better then he would do it. It might not be right but this is the price you pay for being owned privately,everybody knew that it would come one day so just learn to live with it......that family friendly,plucky upstart club we used to know (for us fans of a certain age) no longer exists,it died years ago,it's all about the money now. Your job is to pay your money,watch the game with optional singing/chanting, spend a few quid in the stadium and fook off home.....nothing more nothing less. Exactly I am not denying anyone the right to protest, merely it will not change things one iota; so with that in mind we might as well move on (albeit with a bad taste in our mouths). An unpopular decision such has this was always going to come, in a way I am surprised it took so long. For those of us who wish to remain Southampton supporters we are just going to have to lump it - unless of course anyone has £50m in our back pockets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 20 January, 2013 Share Posted 20 January, 2013 Quite the opposite,i think saintpats has hit the nail on the head. However calling NC a c**t and waving hankies in the air will in the long run not be very helpful. I don't think too many people are going to be waving hankies thankfully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theyin Posted 20 January, 2013 Share Posted 20 January, 2013 Sing One Nige etc etc... for sure. To be expected. How about turning your back on NC for a minute or so when he appears at the start of each half. It'll do naff all, but it'll let him know his actions or the way they were carried out were not appreciated. It would be foolish to upset the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 20 January, 2013 Share Posted 20 January, 2013 It would be foolish to upset the team. No one (well, virtually no one at least) is suggesting doing that. We are all fans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 20 January, 2013 Share Posted 20 January, 2013 The analogy of the tenant criticising the new owner's choice of decor after they had bought the house is ridiculous frankly and I would have expected better from you. The difference is that we as fans remain customers of the business, so that did not change when the ownership did, whereas your tenant or the neighbours had no further connection with the new owners. When you say that we relinquished all control when Markus Liebherr took over, we as fans had no control over the club when Lowe and his cohorts were in charge, except for those with shares and only then if they acted in unison. Singing songs for Nigel will register a protest towards Cortese, but should not disturb the players. Whether we beat Everton or not will have a lot more to do with whether Pochinetto drills the team correctly with the match tactics and team selection. The players always have something to prove for a new manager, so I very much doubt that the fans chanting Adkins' name will make any difference; it never unsettled the team when we chanted it before. Spot on wes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 20 January, 2013 Share Posted 20 January, 2013 Exactly I am not denying anyone the right to protest, merely it will not change things one iota; so with that in mind we might as well move on (albeit with a bad taste in our mouths). An unpopular decision such has this was always going to come, in a way I am surprised it took so long. For those of us who wish to remain Southampton supporters we are just going to have to lump it - unless of course anyone has £50m in our back pockets. And again, virtually no one is suggesting that protesting will achieve change (at least not in the short term). There are other reasons to protest, well articulated on here at length Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musesaint Posted 20 January, 2013 Share Posted 20 January, 2013 I don't think too many people are going to be waving hankies thankfully. Seriously unhygienic ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mafiboy27 Posted 20 January, 2013 Share Posted 20 January, 2013 Chanting for Nigel is not a protest. It is the only way the fans can publicly thank one of the best managers we have ever had. It would be a travesty if Saints fans did not sing for Nigel at points, before, during and after the game. It won't negatively affect the players, they will expect it and most would probably be disappointed if we didn't and would probably like to join in. Without doubt, the fans(and the players) need to move on from the latest shenanigans but tomorrow we need to show our support for Nigel- as well as the team. The team will want to win for the fans and the team but they will also want to win for Nigel tomorrow. After tomorrows game we need to move on, the players and the new manager will need all the help they can get. The game I am looking forward to most(whenever it may happen) is when Nigel returns as opposition manager, then Saints fans can give him the reception he fully deserves. Spot on! Support the team. The results went against us yesterday to some point so we really need a win and a perfect start for the new manager. Yes gutted and shellshocked friday, but it's nothing we can do about it other than support the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SB Posted 20 January, 2013 Share Posted 20 January, 2013 This mean I can't dress up as a 'joker' and do a cheeky lap of the pitch shouting Cortese out? In all seriousness, completely agree FF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 20 January, 2013 Share Posted 20 January, 2013 Chanting for Nigel is not a protest. It is the only way the fans can publicly thank one of the best managers we have ever had. It would be a travesty if Saints fans did not sing for Nigel at points, before, during and after the game. It won't negatively affect the players, they will expect it and most would probably be disappointed if we didn't and would probably like to join in. Without doubt, the fans(and the players) need to move on from the latest shenanigans but tomorrow we need to show our support for Nigel- as well as the team. The team will want to win for the fans and the team but they will also want to win for Nigel tomorrow. After tomorrows game we need to move on, the players and the new manager will need all the help they can get. The game I am looking forward to most(whenever it may happen) is when Nigel returns as opposition manager, then Saints fans can give him the reception he fully deserves. Agree with this word for word. The singing of Nigel's name will be cathartic and then we can move on, having shown our feelings towards him and our disgust at the way that Cortese has acted. Anybody who thinks that chanting "there's only one Nigel Adkins" will somehow disrupt the players, had better explain why that would be any different to us chanting the same thing during pretty all of the matches that he's managed since coming here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topcat Posted 20 January, 2013 Share Posted 20 January, 2013 Fitzhugh Fella, your post at the top of this thread ignores one key commercial problem. A business funded to a large extent by customers cannot afford to operate in a way that is offensive to the moral beliefs of a large part of its customers. Starbucks felt the heat on that and Ratners dissappeared. The Club now has two main suppliers of cash, Sky and the customers, the Markus money has stopped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 20 January, 2013 Share Posted 20 January, 2013 Fitzhugh Fella, your post at the top of this thread ignores one key commercial problem. A business funded to a large extent by customers cannot afford to operate in a way that is offensive to the moral beliefs of a large part of its customers. Starbucks felt the heat on that and Ratners dissappeared. The Club now has two main suppliers of cash, Sky and the customers, the Markus money has stopped. I fear that we're no longer the "large extent" of the funding. Now we're in the Prem I believe that to be the case, anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordswoodsaints Posted 20 January, 2013 Share Posted 20 January, 2013 Exactly I am not denying anyone the right to protest, merely it will not change things one iota; so with that in mind we might as well move on (albeit with a bad taste in our mouths). An unpopular decision such has this was always going to come, in a way I am surprised it took so long. For those of us who wish to remain Southampton supporters we are just going to have to lump it - unless of course anyone has £50m in our back pockets. For better or for worse football has moved on and so have we,although I would love it to go back to the old days when I was a kid in the 70's and through to teenage years in the 80's standing on the terraces it is never going to happen. Things have moved on and there are a lot of younger supporters who will never experience being treated like a caged animal so although those days have gone and things have improved we are still treated like animals....cash cows who have to remain silent. Football is big business and sometimes decisions are made that are unpopular just like other big businesses and the supporters voice is not as essential as it once was for these businesses to continue. If people want to voice their concerns then that's fine by me,after all I did it back in the branfoot days and in the end the supporters got their way........but I'm not so sure this would happen today at a privately owned club,in fact I can positively say it wouldn't happen. By all means let your feelings be known as its your right as a fan but people need to realize that it won't change a thing. Cortese has made some controversial decisions in the past that have turned out ok so we have to give him a chance to prove the right decision was made so I suggest you give him a bit of stick when he takes his seat ( if that what you want to do) but then put equal amounts of effort in getting behind the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpweySaint Posted 20 January, 2013 Share Posted 20 January, 2013 Exactly I am not denying anyone the right to protest, merely it will not change things one iota; so with that in mind we might as well move on (albeit with a bad taste in our mouths). An unpopular decision such has this was always going to come, in a way I am surprised it took so long. For those of us who wish to remain Southampton supporters we are just going to have to lump it - unless of course anyone has £50m in our back pockets. Nobody is stopping you from moving on, do as you please, I'd rather not. It may not make a dramatic change but im not comfortable doing nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 20 January, 2013 Share Posted 20 January, 2013 2 simple facts: 1) Protests won't achieve anything positive 2) Highlighting the futility of protests will not prevent protests Two simple incorrect statements. The 2nd one being partially wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 20 January, 2013 Author Share Posted 20 January, 2013 Nobody is stopping you from moving on, do as you please, I'd rather not. It may not make a dramatic change but im not comfortable doing nothing. I understand but I guess I just don't get the point of trying to do something which is not going to get results....but like I said I do understand where you are coming from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 20 January, 2013 Author Share Posted 20 January, 2013 Fitzhugh Fella, your post at the top of this thread ignores one key commercial problem. A business funded to a large extent by customers cannot afford to operate in a way that is offensive to the moral beliefs of a large part of its customers. Starbucks felt the heat on that and Ratners dissappeared. The Club now has two main suppliers of cash, Sky and the customers, the Markus money has stopped. Topcat - if the Liebherr money has dried up completely then we have seriously moved into the red. My guess is NC has turned a £14m club into a £50m+ club and he still has access to funds to ensure their investment is secure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 20 January, 2013 Share Posted 20 January, 2013 I understand but I guess I just don't get the point of trying to do something which is not going to get results.... If I can lay my hands on a time machine any chance you can pop back to the 80s and have a chin wag with Arthur Scargill for me? Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 20 January, 2013 Share Posted 20 January, 2013 Duncan is right we should be protesting at the game . The team are far more important. So protesting at the game tomorrow will have a potentially very negative affect on the players . Is this what you want upweysaint ? To see the negativity of protests affect the players confidence etc . Nigel would want us to get behind the team even though he has been harshly treated . Finally I hope sky do not spend too much time talking to the voice of the fans . Those they call sisa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 20 January, 2013 Share Posted 20 January, 2013 I fear that we're no longer the "large extent" of the funding. Now we're in the Prem I believe that to be the case, anyway Chances are we won't be in it for long and once the plastic wa.nkers have fu.cked off again it'll be real fans left to pick up the pieces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 20 January, 2013 Share Posted 20 January, 2013 (edited) I hear what people are saying in that chanting Nigel's name is a mark of respect for the man rather than anyone having a pop at the new manager. You get that, I get that, we all get that. However, you can bet your bottom dollar that Sky and the rest of the media will spin it to create a "Fans don't get behind the new manager" sensationalist storyline. It's what the media does best...whipping up storms.... Edited 20 January, 2013 by trousers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 20 January, 2013 Share Posted 20 January, 2013 I hear what people are saying in that chanting Nigel's name is a mark of respect for the man rather than anyone having a pop at the new manager. You get that, I get that, we all get that. However, you can bet your bottom dollar that Sky and the rest of the media will spin it to create a "Fans don't get behind the new manager" sensationalist storyline. It's what they do...whipping up storms.... Who gives a fu.ck what the press says? By next week they won't give a toss about us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 20 January, 2013 Share Posted 20 January, 2013 Who gives a fu.ck what the press says? By next week they won't give a toss about us. A significant portion of the posts on here in the last 48 hours have been latching onto what the media have been saying so I would venture a fair few "give a f***' how the club is portrayed. Just a hunch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 20 January, 2013 Share Posted 20 January, 2013 For better or for worse football has moved on and so have we,although I would love it to go back to the old days when I was a kid in the 70's and through to teenage years in the 80's standing on the terraces it is never going to happen. Things have moved on and there are a lot of younger supporters who will never experience being treated like a caged animal so although those days have gone and things have improved we are still treated like animals....cash cows who have to remain silent. Football is big business and sometimes decisions are made that are unpopular just like other big businesses and the supporters voice is not as essential as it once was for these businesses to continue. If people want to voice their concerns then that's fine by me,after all I did it back in the branfoot days and in the end the supporters got their way........but I'm not so sure this would happen today at a privately owned club,in fact I can positively say it wouldn't happen. By all means let your feelings be known as its your right as a fan but people need to realize that it won't change a thing. Cortese has made some controversial decisions in the past that have turned out ok so we have to give him a chance to prove the right decision was made so I suggest you give him a bit of stick when he takes his seat ( if that what you want to do) but then put equal amounts of effort in getting behind the team. Strange thing that the club was privately owned by a few local businessman in the Branfoot era, i think the big difference is our fear that NC would take his "ball" and not let us play anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 20 January, 2013 Share Posted 20 January, 2013 A significant portion of the posts on here in the last 48 hours have been latching onto what the media have been saying so I would venture a fair few "give a f***' how the club is portrayed. Just a hunch. They're the same folk who rattle on about FM13 stats and suck up everything on the OS so forgive me for not considering them important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 20 January, 2013 Share Posted 20 January, 2013 A significant portion of the posts on here in the last 48 hours have been latching onto what the media have been saying so I would venture a fair few "give a f***' how the club is portrayed. Just a hunch. Regardless, I see that as no good reason to do or not do something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 20 January, 2013 Share Posted 20 January, 2013 Regardless, I see that as no good reason to do or not do something. 'Reason' is merely a human concept so fill your boots... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 20 January, 2013 Share Posted 20 January, 2013 They're the same folk who rattle on about FM13 stats and suck up everything on the OS so forgive me for not considering them important. People from both 'sides' have been latching onto the media bun fight. Six of one and half a dozen of the other. Just an opinion mind you so discard as you see fit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 20 January, 2013 Share Posted 20 January, 2013 They're the same folk who rattle on about FM13 stats and suck up everything on the OS so forgive me for not considering them important. As NC is so bad would you let a member of your family now join the club if the opportunity arose? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 20 January, 2013 Author Share Posted 20 January, 2013 I hear what people are saying in that chanting Nigel's name is a mark of respect for the man rather than anyone having a pop at the new manager. You get that, I get that, we all get that. However, you can bet your bottom dollar that Sky and the rest of the media will spin it to create a "Fans don't get behind the new manager" sensationalist storyline. It's what the media does best...whipping up storms.... Even though you are a Tory supporting Mail reader I hate to say it you speak sense. I can sense a coalition coming on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 20 January, 2013 Share Posted 20 January, 2013 Even though you are a Tory supporting Mail reader I hate to say it you speak sense. I can sense a coalition coming on. Ha ha - I don't get many compliments so will frame that one (You were half right... I don't read a newspaper these days...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 20 January, 2013 Share Posted 20 January, 2013 Seen some insults on here in my time but that's the most extreme. And he qualified a superlative to boot... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diggers Posted 20 January, 2013 Share Posted 20 January, 2013 If the Chelsea fans aren't getting anywhere, why do all the commentators agree that Benitez doesn't have a chance of getting the post full time? "The fans wouldn't stand for it"..Fans can influence a clubs decisions, shame its too late to save Nigel. Doesn't mean that we should all shut up and put up. What major change will Cortese make next? Do we accept what ever, its there's to do with as they see fit apparently. So, its not OUR club at all, no more so than any other club in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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