Huffton Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 Yep, thats right. I hope he fails and we get relegated. Why? Because that will mean Cortese has failed. Ive supported Saints for over 30 years, but yesterday something changed for me. We went from being a decent club with values we could be proud of to being a wannabe Man City, a club that rides roughshod over fans and employees alike in the aim of squeezing a few more quid out of them for rich owners who don't give a stuff about football. Sadly this is what the premiership is all about now. Quite frankly you can keep it. The way I feel at the moment I will not be renewing my season tickets next year, I realise this won't affect the owners one jot but I don't feel I can put my hard earned money into something that behaves like it did yesterday, and has been doing for a little while now. After all the Lowe times I thought we had hit rock bottom and things couldn't get any worse, perhaps I was wrong, we've gone from one nutter with at least a small shred of decency to a bigger one with none whatsoever. I realise I will get all sorts of abuse thrown my way for posting this, go for your lives, I really couldn't give a toss what anyone else thinks. Theres a saying that goes 'be careful what you wish for', maybe we should have. Sad times. Cortese out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 And you're the moronic embodiment of why people on here who claim to be able to have their cake and eat it can't. There's no way you can separate legitimate anger with NC from supporting the new manager and getting behind the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 Very glad to hear Huffton may not renew his season ticket next year as he appears to be a manager supporter not a club supporter. No true Saints' fan would welocome relegation and personally, the fewer such people there are in the Stadium, the more room there is for real supporters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 As much as I believe Cortese deserves to see this go tits up,and be relegated, I can not wish that on the club and our supporters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shirleysfc Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 And you're the moronic embodiment of why people on here who claim to be able to have their cake and eat it can't. There's no way you can separate legitimate anger with NC from supporting the new manager and getting behind the team. Yep, sour mash will be on here soon telling us everyone is still behind the players!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 if he fails, we go down... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 I respect other peoples opinions, but I don't understand this extreme level of opinion. This is still our football club, so for chirst sake don't wish it to fail. How we've treated Adkins is shambolic and embarrassing, but wishing the worst for the club isn't the way forward is it? Really? Heart over head moment going on here. Give it a few days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Saints Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 Respect your view but I will forever support my club no matter who is manager or chairman. We were all here before Nigel Adkins and we're still here after him. Why will we still be here? The one thing we all have in common, we love Southampton Football Club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintjersey Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 You are a moron. Can't believe anybody who calls themselves a Saints supporter would welcome relegation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 if he fails, we go down... One way or the other with this one, in my opinion. No middle ground. We'll either grow and do fantastically well, or get relegated adrift of the others. I'm hoping for the first one, obviously. This is now a time for the likes of Kelvin to show his worth in the backroom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonroader07 Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 Yep, thats right. I hope he fails and we get relegated. Why? Because that will mean Cortese has failed. Ive supported Saints for over 30 years, but yesterday something changed for me. We went from being a decent club with values we could be proud of to being a wannabe Man City, a club that rides roughshod over fans and employees alike in the aim of squeezing a few more quid out of them for rich owners who don't give a stuff about football. Sadly this is what the premiership is all about now. Quite frankly you can keep it. The way I feel at the moment I will not be renewing my season tickets next year, I realise this won't affect the owners one jot but I don't feel I can put my hard earned money into something that behaves like it did yesterday, and has been doing for a little while now. After all the Lowe times I thought we had hit rock bottom and things couldn't get any worse, perhaps I was wrong, we've gone from one nutter with at least a small shred of decency to a bigger one with none whatsoever. I realise I will get all sorts of abuse thrown my way for posting this, go for your lives, I really couldn't give a toss what anyone else thinks. Theres a saying that goes 'be careful what you wish for', maybe we should have. Sad times. Cortese out. What a statement, people have called me the biggest **** on this board, YOU now have that honour and in my view you should be banned for being a Traitor... Off with his head and his balls FFS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 One way or the other with this one, in my opinion. No middle ground. We'll either grow and do fantastically well, or get relegated adrift of the others. I'm hoping for the first one, obviously. This is now a time for the likes of Kelvin to show his worth in the backroom. if we go down..i feel too many changes in the team will mean we wont bounce back up first go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudders Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 I respect other peoples opinions, but I don't understand this extreme level of opinion. This is still our football club, so for chirst sake don't wish it to fail. How we've treated Adkins is shambolic and embarrassing, but wishing the worst for the club isn't the way forward is it? Really? Heart over head moment going on here. Give it a few days. We have to assume that a certain percentage of forum members will have been on their periods over the past couple of days and as such we are bound to see some posts of this irrational nature. The rest of us need to just stay strong for them, get them a hot water bottle to rest on their tummies and try not to upset them any further! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonroader07 Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 We have to assume that a certain percentage of forum members will have been on their periods over the past couple of days and as such we are bound to see some posts of this irrational nature. The rest of us need to just stay strong for them, get them a hot water bottle to rest on their tummies and try not to upset them any further! Well said Dr Gun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Rooney Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 Oh my god, welcome to the world of modern football, **** happens and people move on. I support Southampton FC as it is my hometown club, through thick and thin, through manager after manager, when my favourite player is sold. It does not matter who is or isnt at the club as long as the club is still there. I dont think NA deserved the sack but it has happened, I don't know Adkings personally so my life moves on, for all we know he could have been a c**t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 if we go down..i feel too many changes in the team will mean we wont bounce back up first go Oh, totally. We'll be doing a Blackburn/Wolves/Bolton. We'll just turn into a **** NPC team again. Simple fact. This new bloke will be out quicker than you can say his name, and that's that. Obviously I'm praying that doesn't happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 We were all here before Nigel Adkins and we're still here after him. Why will we still be here? The one thing we all have in common, we love Southampton Football Club. This, even wives come and go , no matter how much you think you love them, but one thing that is forever there is SFC. That will never change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 YIve supported Saints for over 30 years, but yesterday something changed for me. We went from being a decent club with values we could be proud of to being a wannabe Man City, a club that rides roughshod over fans and employees alike Sad times. Cortese out. But its not the first time is it ? I remember similar thoughts on feeling we had lost our integrity when Dave Merrington was sacked, and the timing of it,and the way the club dressed it up. That was appalling. Also and before that, the way Alan Ball was 'allowed' to leave, almost eased out of the door. It reminds me of a comment made by a friend when Chris Nicholl was sacked - the first time Saints had sacked a manager - "I just hope now that we've let that genie out of the bottle [ sacking the manager] we don't become like every other club now, sacking managers every five minutes ". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 (edited) Yep, sour mash will be on here soon telling us everyone is still behind the players!! And this opening post is going to affect the players how exactly? Edited 19 January, 2013 by Sour Mash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
los_saint Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 Yep, thats right. I hope he fails and we get relegated. Why? Because that will mean Cortese has failed. Ive supported Saints for over 30 years, but yesterday something changed for me. We went from being a decent club with values we could be proud of to being a wannabe Man City, a club that rides roughshod over fans and employees alike in the aim of squeezing a few more quid out of them for rich owners who don't give a stuff about football. Sadly this is what the premiership is all about now. Quite frankly you can keep it. The way I feel at the moment I will not be renewing my season tickets next year, I realise this won't affect the owners one jot but I don't feel I can put my hard earned money into something that behaves like it did yesterday, and has been doing for a little while now. After all the Lowe times I thought we had hit rock bottom and things couldn't get any worse, perhaps I was wrong, we've gone from one nutter with at least a small shred of decency to a bigger one with none whatsoever. I realise I will get all sorts of abuse thrown my way for posting this, go for your lives, I really couldn't give a toss what anyone else thinks. Theres a saying that goes 'be careful what you wish for', maybe we should have. Sad times. Cortese out. Bell end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Without a Halo Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 Yep, thats right. I hope he fails and we get relegated. Why? Because that will mean Cortese has failed. Ive supported Saints for over 30 years, but yesterday something changed for me. We went from being a decent club with values we could be proud of to being a wannabe Man City, a club that rides roughshod over fans and employees alike in the aim of squeezing a few more quid out of them for rich owners who don't give a stuff about football. Sadly this is what the premiership is all about now. Quite frankly you can keep it. The way I feel at the moment I will not be renewing my season tickets next year, I realise this won't affect the owners one jot but I don't feel I can put my hard earned money into something that behaves like it did yesterday, and has been doing for a little while now. After all the Lowe times I thought we had hit rock bottom and things couldn't get any worse, perhaps I was wrong, we've gone from one nutter with at least a small shred of decency to a bigger one with none whatsoever. I realise I will get all sorts of abuse thrown my way for posting this, go for your lives, I really couldn't give a toss what anyone else thinks. Theres a saying that goes 'be careful what you wish for', maybe we should have. Sad times. Cortese out. I respect your views and am tempted to feel the same but cant! I have supported saints for 40 years and more and we have been through worse times than this! The way we have behaved has been poor indeed and football now is all about money and little else. however I am and will always be a Saints supporter and will put this episode behind me like so many others in the past and suppoort the new manager and team neither of whom are to blame! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 Huffton you really have lost the plot. Sadly the search only goes back 13pages on here. i would have liked to have seen some of the threads about NA when we were bottom of the league. i suspect there were many who are now up in arms that would be wishing for NA to be sacked then. I hope the new man is very successful and in 10years or so we are sitting in a 50k stadium being the only team in the south of England playing in the European super league. If we dont keep up we will be left behind. Cortese has a ruthless drive that i hope will bring us unbelievable success. If he fails you can go proudly to our sparsely filled ground with your rattle, swing your scarf around your head, and talk about what a gentile football club we are,whilst we take on Hereford etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 I've been keeping my 'facepalm moment' on Adkins being sacked up my sleeve for now but I think we have a winner.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFrost Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 Yep, thats right. I hope he fails and we get relegated. Why? Because that will mean Cortese has failed. Ive supported Saints for over 30 years, but yesterday something changed for me. We went from being a decent club with values we could be proud of to being a wannabe Man City, a club that rides roughshod over fans and employees alike in the aim of squeezing a few more quid out of them for rich owners who don't give a stuff about football. Sadly this is what the premiership is all about now. Quite frankly you can keep it. The way I feel at the moment I will not be renewing my season tickets next year, I realise this won't affect the owners one jot but I don't feel I can put my hard earned money into something that behaves like it did yesterday, and has been doing for a little while now. After all the Lowe times I thought we had hit rock bottom and things couldn't get any worse, perhaps I was wrong, we've gone from one nutter with at least a small shred of decency to a bigger one with none whatsoever. I realise I will get all sorts of abuse thrown my way for posting this, go for your lives, I really couldn't give a toss what anyone else thinks. Theres a saying that goes 'be careful what you wish for', maybe we should have. Sad times. Cortese out. and that will achieve what exactly? Will it "get one over" on Cortese? Will it "prove Cortese wrong"? I've met plenty of people with very similar personalities to Cortese (not that I've met the bloke) and can conclusively tell you that even if we do go down and Pochettino is a complete failure Cortese will still think he made the right decision in changing the manager when he did. Blokes like that don't look back on what they may or did get wrong. I think Cortese's decision to get rid of Adkins at this time was an appalling one and I think it's one of the most farcical sackings in PL history, but I'm not going to let my hatred of the decision or any of my dislike towards Cortese get in the way of the club I have supported since I was a small boy (and believe me that was a long time ago). To say I feel incredibly sorry for NA is a big understatement but hating Cortese isn't going to bring him back. Sure the fans have got to make a big statement about what Nigel Adkins did for this club and the Everton game will be an ideal opportunity but it can't let us get in the way of supporting the club's progress this season. The best thing we can do right now is get behind the team and the manager and support them like we've supported them so far this season. If this managerial change does turn out to be footballing suicide like many (including myself) are fearing then the time to publicly protest against the chairman is after we're mathematically relegated. Nigel Adkins is my eyes will always be a club legend and I genuinely wish him all the best. I can say with confidence that the next club that hires him will be very blessed. We all owe him a great deal of gratitude and I'm sure we'll all hold him in very high regard for a very, very long time. But as much I hate to say it we've got to very grudgingly move on. If people want to stop supporting Saints as a result of this all this that is their decision, but I'm not going to let one of the darkest days in the club's recent history stop my support of 40+ years. As fans we've got to publicly express our gratitude to Nigel Adkins, but at the same time we've got to support the team and not let this undo all the progress we've made in the last few years. As for the fans that want to do nothing but hurl abuse at the chairman/new manager (even if the chairman does deserve it), then I'm afraid Fratton Park is just down the motorway. It just staggers me how many people on here have laughed for years at the moronic Pompey fans doing it on the PTT, only to want to do exactly the same thing when all of a sudden our club has become a laughing stock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 Very glad to hear Huffton may not renew his season ticket next year as he appears to be a manager supporter not a club supporter If he supported Adkin's like he says he does then I'm not sure why he's reacting in the polar opposite way to which Adkins himself would react to this situation. Baffles me how people can praise Adkins' outlook on life then react completely differently themselves. Bordering on hypocrisy IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huffton Posted 19 January, 2013 Author Share Posted 19 January, 2013 If he supported Adkin's like he says he does then I'm not sure why he's reacting in the polar opposite way to which Adkins himself would react to this situation. Baffles me how people can praise Adkins' outlook on life then react completely differently themselves. Bordering on hypocrisy IMO. Not sure how standing by my principles makes me a hypocrite, but if you say it does... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets B Avenue Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 I've been keeping my 'facepalm moment' on Adkins being sacked up my sleeve for now but I think we have a winner.... Its a tough one. What with Hypo's regular inane babble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 if we go down..i feel too many changes in the team will mean we wont bounce back up first go I feel a Dalek repsonse coming on. I agree though. Hardly any teams recover if they have big earners in toe. If we go down Cortese's decision will be heavily scrutinised. I've always thought it would be tight, but there were genuine signs that we had turned a corner and got the belief needed to stay up. I'm much more nervous now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 Yep, thats right. I hope he fails and we get relegated. Why? Because that will mean Cortese has failed. Ive supported Saints for over 30 years, but yesterday something changed for me. We went from being a decent club with values we could be proud of to being a wannabe Man City, a club that rides roughshod over fans and employees alike in the aim of squeezing a few more quid out of them for rich owners who don't give a stuff about football. Sadly this is what the premiership is all about now. Quite frankly you can keep it. The way I feel at the moment I will not be renewing my season tickets next year, I realise this won't affect the owners one jot but I don't feel I can put my hard earned money into something that behaves like it did yesterday, and has been doing for a little while now. After all the Lowe times I thought we had hit rock bottom and things couldn't get any worse, perhaps I was wrong, we've gone from one nutter with at least a small shred of decency to a bigger one with none whatsoever. I realise I will get all sorts of abuse thrown my way for posting this, go for your lives, I really couldn't give a toss what anyone else thinks. Theres a saying that goes 'be careful what you wish for', maybe we should have. Sad times. Cortese out. oh dear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge_B Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 Don't know why it's not possible to be upset about yesterday's events whilst still supporting Southampton FC. I'd have NA at my house absolutely any time and bar the $kates I wish him luck no matter what he does, but I also hope that Cortese is vindicated and that Pochettino is in charge for a long time to come with us at the highest level. No idea why the two aren't possible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 Yep, thats right. I hope he fails and we get relegated. Why? Because that will mean Cortese has failed. Ive supported Saints for over 30 years, but yesterday something changed for me. We went from being a decent club with values we could be proud of to being a wannabe Man City, a club that rides roughshod over fans and employees alike in the aim of squeezing a few more quid out of them for rich owners who don't give a stuff about football. Sadly this is what the premiership is all about now. Quite frankly you can keep it. The way I feel at the moment I will not be renewing my season tickets next year, I realise this won't affect the owners one jot but I don't feel I can put my hard earned money into something that behaves like it did yesterday, and has been doing for a little while now. After all the Lowe times I thought we had hit rock bottom and things couldn't get any worse, perhaps I was wrong, we've gone from one nutter with at least a small shred of decency to a bigger one with none whatsoever. I realise I will get all sorts of abuse thrown my way for posting this, go for your lives, I really couldn't give a toss what anyone else thinks. Theres a saying that goes 'be careful what you wish for', maybe we should have. Sad times. Cortese out. Does the "riding roughshod over employees" extend to Nigel's treatment of Dean Hammond and Dan Harding. "After all the Lowe times I thought we had hit rock bottom and things couldn't get any worse, perhaps I was wrong". No you were right, the summer before Cortese and Marcus rode into town, was slightly worse than the time that a Argie international with a half decent reputation in Spain was appointed as Manager of our Premier League side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BILLY Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 Yep, thats right. I hope he fails and we get relegated. Why? Because that will mean Cortese has failed. Ive supported Saints for over 30 years, but yesterday something changed for me. We went from being a decent club with values we could be proud of to being a wannabe Man City, a club that rides roughshod over fans and employees alike in the aim of squeezing a few more quid out of them for rich owners who don't give a stuff about football. Sadly this is what the premiership is all about now. Quite frankly you can keep it. The way I feel at the moment I will not be renewing my season tickets next year, I realise this won't affect the owners one jot but I don't feel I can put my hard earned money into something that behaves like it did yesterday, and has been doing for a little while now. After all the Lowe times I thought we had hit rock bottom and things couldn't get any worse, perhaps I was wrong, we've gone from one nutter with at least a small shred of decency to a bigger one with none whatsoever. I realise I will get all sorts of abuse thrown my way for posting this, go for your lives, I really couldn't give a toss what anyone else thinks. Theres a saying that goes 'be careful what you wish for', maybe we should have. Sad times. Cortese out. Call youself a Saints Supporter. Hoping we go down. You need to man up mate, get over it and move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 Not sure how standing by my principles makes me a hypocrite, but if you say it does... I didn't say it makes you a hypocrite - I'm simply saying that I'm struggling to understand why people don't extol the same virtues as Adkins. In other words, I think Adkins himself would disagree with your stance. (which of course doesn't make your stance "wrong"....) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 Yep, thats right. I hope he fails and we get relegated. Why? Because that will mean Cortese has failed. Ive supported Saints for over 30 years, but yesterday something changed for me. We went from being a decent club with values we could be proud of to being a wannabe Man City, a club that rides roughshod over fans and employees alike in the aim of squeezing a few more quid out of them for rich owners who don't give a stuff about football. Sadly this is what the premiership is all about now. Quite frankly you can keep it. The way I feel at the moment I will not be renewing my season tickets next year, I realise this won't affect the owners one jot but I don't feel I can put my hard earned money into something that behaves like it did yesterday, and has been doing for a little while now. After all the Lowe times I thought we had hit rock bottom and things couldn't get any worse, perhaps I was wrong, we've gone from one nutter with at least a small shred of decency to a bigger one with none whatsoever. I realise I will get all sorts of abuse thrown my way for posting this, go for your lives, I really couldn't give a toss what anyone else thinks. Theres a saying that goes 'be careful what you wish for', maybe we should have. Sad times. Cortese out. Well its sad that its come to this. Can see now that we have supporters who are just plain daft. You are entitled to your opinion, but no respect for it. If you support Saints you do so for life, not just because you don't like one episode. Modern football is like this now, and has been for quite a long time in all honesty. I had massive resepct for Adkins and what he had done, was doing, but in the end he is a manager and will draw a line under this, move on and be even more successful elsewhere. Quite clear to me in hindsight that he has known this is coming for a few weeks. Suspect he was told either after WBA or at least Sunderland. He certainly knew he was a dead man walking on Wednesday night. To hope the club is relegated is just one of the most stupid things that a so-called supporter could do. Get behind the new man and lets see where it takes us. I actually don't find it offensive to be likened to Man City, they have some of the best supporters around (unlike their arrogant neighbours) and are making the most of the good times, because they know what goes around comes around. If we followed your ideas we would be like the nasty, spiteful, tinpot club down the road, not even knowing if they will exist in 6 months time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge_B Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 I'd also hazard a small wager that all these "I'm off" drama queenz won't actually go anywhere, they'll just be the ones that start the "Pochettino out" threads the next time we go 1-0 down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceandfriendly Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 I've been keeping my 'facepalm moment' on Adkins being sacked up my sleeve for now but I think we have a winner.... There've been plenty of opportunities to get the facepalm out over the last 24hours or so. Impressed that you've been able to hold out this long! This thread is another fascinating insight into the mind of this particular individual, really interesting stuff. Embarrassing for him, sure, but great entertainment for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polaroid Saint Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 Interesting you choose Man City as an example (and not say Chelsea or Liverpool, which would have been correct). Man City's work with the fans and the community has been exemplary and they are building a fantastic atmosphere up there as well as winning the league. If we were to become the Man City of the south, I would welcome it. In fact, its a great analogy. Look what happen after Hughes (incredibly popular young English manager who seemed too be on the right track)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 I don't hope that he fails, but I can't see much success in the immediate future. If we do go down then I can see a few years before we're back up again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintfully Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 This, even wives come and go , no matter how much you think you love them, but one thing that is forever there is SFC. That will never change. As ridiculous, illogical and emotional as these statements are, they are nonetheless true. I could no more change my allegiance and fandom of Saints than I could cut of my head and then watch telly. Sad though it is sometimes, its still the case that I was born a Saint and will remain one whatever. Its about knowing where you're from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordswoodsaints Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 Very glad to hear Huffton may not renew his season ticket next year as he appears to be a manager supporter not a club supporter. No true Saints' fan would welocome relegation and personally, the fewer such people there are in the Stadium, the more room there is for real supporters. I'm with this,I don't go to support a manager.....in fact I don't really give a rats arse who the manager is as long as I see a decent game of footie played by players who put the effort in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huffton Posted 19 January, 2013 Author Share Posted 19 January, 2013 Thanks for replying with a reasoned response. Possibly youre right about Nigel, who knows? The problem for me is not just SAints, who I will always support, but the premier league and what its become as a whole. Sadly to me it isn't football anymore, its just a cash cow where a bit of loyalty is non existent. I would be happier out of it if it means this is the way our club is now run. Well its sad that its come to this. Can see now that we have supporters who are just plain daft. You are entitled to your opinion, but no respect for it. If you support Saints you do so for life, not just because you don't like one episode. Modern football is like this now, and has been for quite a long time in all honesty. I had massive resepct for Adkins and what he had done, was doing, but in the end he is a manager and will draw a line under this, move on and be even more successful elsewhere. Quite clear to me in hindsight that he has known this is coming for a few weeks. Suspect he was told either after WBA or at least Sunderland. He certainly knew he was a dead man walking on Wednesday night. To hope the club is relegated is just one of the most stupid things that a so-called supporter could do. Get behind the new man and lets see where it takes us. I actually don't find it offensive to be likened to Man City, they have some of the best supporters around (unlike their arrogant neighbours) and are making the most of the good times, because they know what goes around comes around. If we followed your ideas we would be like the nasty, spiteful, tinpot club down the road, not even knowing if they will exist in 6 months time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 I never hope the club fail, but think they have mad a mistake.... Please be wrong, and European football and trophies in a couple of seasons! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue Saint Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 Yep, thats right. I hope he fails and we get relegated. Why? Because that will mean Cortese has failed. Ive supported Saints for over 30 years, but yesterday something changed for me. We went from being a decent club with values we could be proud of to being a wannabe Man City, a club that rides roughshod over fans and employees alike in the aim of squeezing a few more quid out of them for rich owners who don't give a stuff about football. Sadly this is what the premiership is all about now. Quite frankly you can keep it. The way I feel at the moment I will not be renewing my season tickets next year, I realise this won't affect the owners one jot but I don't feel I can put my hard earned money into something that behaves like it did yesterday, and has been doing for a little while now. After all the Lowe times I thought we had hit rock bottom and things couldn't get any worse, perhaps I was wrong, we've gone from one nutter with at least a small shred of decency to a bigger one with none whatsoever. I realise I will get all sorts of abuse thrown my way for posting this, go for your lives, I really couldn't give a toss what anyone else thinks. Theres a saying that goes 'be careful what you wish for', maybe we should have. Sad times. Cortese out. And you support Saints??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mightysaints Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 Managers and players come and go. I will always support Saints till i die. No one is bigger than the club. Get behind the lads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melmacian_saint Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 Did we slice our wrists when Souness and Lawrie Mac left because of Lowe and because we were now a trading business?? Did we remember it when we were getting boozed up in Cardiff or Birmingham?? Thought so. Nigel wasn't the first, won't be the last. We may miss him at some stage, we may find out it wasn't all roses. It's not just football, it's life. Anything other than this is hot-headed talk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theyin Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 OP: Behave soft lad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 While I don't agree with the OP, surely you've got to ask questions of a decision made by management that brings about this sort of reaction in the fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Matty Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 and that will achieve what exactly? Will it "get one over" on Cortese? Will it "prove Cortese wrong"? I've met plenty of people with very similar personalities to Cortese (not that I've met the bloke) and can conclusively tell you that even if we do go down and Pochettino is a complete failure Cortese will still think he made the right decision in changing the manager when he did. Blokes like that don't look back on what they may or did get wrong. I think Cortese's decision to get rid of Adkins at this time was an appalling one and I think it's one of the most farcical sackings in PL history, but I'm not going to let my hatred of the decision or any of my dislike towards Cortese get in the way of the club I have supported since I was a small boy (and believe me that was a long time ago). To say I feel incredibly sorry for NA is a big understatement but hating Cortese isn't going to bring him back. Sure the fans have got to make a big statement about what Nigel Adkins did for this club and the Everton game will be an ideal opportunity but it can't let us get in the way of supporting the club's progress this season. The best thing we can do right now is get behind the team and the manager and support them like we've supported them so far this season. If this managerial change does turn out to be footballing suicide like many (including myself) are fearing then the time to publicly protest against the chairman is after we're mathematically relegated. Nigel Adkins is my eyes will always be a club legend and I genuinely wish him all the best. I can say with confidence that the next club that hires him will be very blessed. We all owe him a great deal of gratitude and I'm sure we'll all hold him in very high regard for a very, very long time. But as much I hate to say it we've got to very grudgingly move on. If people want to stop supporting Saints as a result of this all this that is their decision, but I'm not going to let one of the darkest days in the club's recent history stop my support of 40+ years. As fans we've got to publicly express our gratitude to Nigel Adkins, but at the same time we've got to support the team and not let this undo all the progress we've made in the last few years. As for the fans that want to do nothing but hurl abuse at the chairman/new manager (even if the chairman does deserve it), then I'm afraid Fratton Park is just down the motorway. It just staggers me how many people on here have laughed for years at the moronic Pompey fans doing it on the PTT, only to want to do exactly the same thing when all of a sudden our club has become a laughing stock. Agree with most of this but will never accept C--tese - he deserves all the abuse heading his way and that will not affect the team, new manager or our support for OUR club one bit - was the same withLowe. As for spending any money on programmes or in his corporate empire - never. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graveworm Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 Yep, thats right. I hope he fails and we get relegated. Why? Because that will mean Cortese has failed. Ive supported Saints for over 30 years, but yesterday something changed for me. We went from being a decent club with values we could be proud of to being a wannabe Man City, a club that rides roughshod over fans and employees alike in the aim of squeezing a few more quid out of them for rich owners who don't give a stuff about football. Sadly this is what the premiership is all about now. Quite frankly you can keep it. The way I feel at the moment I will not be renewing my season tickets next year, I realise this won't affect the owners one jot but I don't feel I can put my hard earned money into something that behaves like it did yesterday, and has been doing for a little while now. After all the Lowe times I thought we had hit rock bottom and things couldn't get any worse, perhaps I was wrong, we've gone from one nutter with at least a small shred of decency to a bigger one with none whatsoever. I realise I will get all sorts of abuse thrown my way for posting this, go for your lives, I really couldn't give a toss what anyone else thinks. Theres a saying that goes 'be careful what you wish for', maybe we should have. Sad times. Cortese out. Shame on you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Billy Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 Despite the fact that NC is not the fans favourite he is trying to do what he stated and set out to do. Loyalty is one thing but success is another and although NA was a really nice guy etc the question has to be asked 'did he really have what is needed to make us a really good prem side?'. Lets not forget that we have been slating him for poor selections and strange substitutions of late which have cost us games. The Chelsea game for example might have been won had the prems english top scorer been playing from the off. I dont take to NC and he comes across as a guy who I would never be pals with, but, it is obvious he is doing what he thinks is right to get this club success as proven by the funding he has acquired for players etc and perhaps this new guy just might prove to be the new Guardiola. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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