EBS1980 Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 With all of Adkins staff being sacked too does anyone know who have replaced them? With the new fella have limited English I'm hoping we have someone who can get the points across in the dugout ready for Monday!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 Les"I run the show even though I have never achieved anything" Reed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 He said that 'his team' had been researching Saints so sure he has a coaching team that will/have joined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 He said that 'his team' had been researching Saints so sure he has a coaching team that will/have joined. How long do you think they were researching for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 How long do you think they were researching for? Several weeks by the sound of things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 Several weeks by the sound of things. This. Which is not their fault by the way. Hopefully it will have helped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 This cloak and dagger stuff makes my blood boil, business should not be done like that, would anybody like this done to them? I would be distraught and the thought of my boss headhunting and actively going out and seeking new managers behind my back is frightening, what kind of character is this new guy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordswoodsaints Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 I hope this is his translator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 This. Which is not their fault by the way. Hopefully it will have helped. Not entirely true. They may not be the only ones in modern football to do it, but hiding in the shadows, conspiring for a change of manager for weeks, while the current one is grafting away lacks morals in my book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 I hope this is his translator Thats how I order my drinks when in Benidorm! Thanks for the giggle! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 SSN have just shown him arriving for today's training session......he arrived with four others...all of which look like his back room staff. Sky say they will be reporting live a little later on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 Not entirely true. They may not be the only ones in modern football to do it, but hiding in the shadows, conspiring for a change of manager for weeks, while the current one is grafting away lacks morals in my book. They aren't the ones conspiring. They are offered a job and they accept. The cruel world of football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 Not entirely true. They may not be the only ones in modern football to do it, but hiding in the shadows, conspiring for a change of manager for weeks, while the current one is grafting away lacks morals in my book. Lack morals! Its has no morals and is low as it gets, without comparing different cultural differences, stabbing someone in the back may be commonplace abroad I do not know (I hope not) but this is alien to most British, we still deal with a handshake and honour it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 They aren't the ones conspiring. They are offered a job and they accept. The cruel world of football. Thats not cruel or it did not have to be, thats a JFK type coup d'état conspiracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 They aren't the ones conspiring. They are offered a job and they accept. The cruel world of football. I think you'll find they were. They knew Adkins was currently in the job, grafting as hard as he could for the club, while they took their several weeks to watch the team, negotiate their contracts, and move over here. I know they're not the first or last to do that kind of thing, but as I say, pretty iffy morals regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 I think you'll find they were. They knew Adkins was currently in the job, grafting as hard as he could for the club, while they took their several weeks to watch the team, negotiate their contracts, and move over here. I know they're not the first or last to do that kind of thing, but as I say, pretty iffy morals regardless. Completely different to the guy who wouldn't have talks with us because he wanted S*****horpe to get compensation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 SSN have just shown him arriving for today's training session......he arrived with four others...all of which look like his back room staff. Sky say they will be reporting live a little later on. From where i'm hiding it looks like Dennis Rofe is putting the cones & balls out and Javi who is stood next to MP is shouting instructions to Dennis in English. Does not look promising!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 Completely different to the guy who wouldn't have talks with us because he wanted S*****horpe to get compensation. Exactly. Speaks volumes about their approach to life and the people they work with. Sadly that means little to some of the fans on here as they dream of the Champions League.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 From where i'm hiding it looks like Dennis Rofe is putting the cones & balls out and Javi who is stood next to MP is shouting instructions to Dennis in English. Does not look promising!! You just turned the clock back a few years! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint77 Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 that i am afraid is the way it works throughout football I think you'll find they were. They knew Adkins was currently in the job, grafting as hard as he could for the club, while they took their several weeks to watch the team, negotiate their contracts, and move over here. I know they're not the first or last to do that kind of thing, but as I say, pretty iffy morals regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 Completely different to the guy who wouldn't have talks with us because he wanted S*****horpe to get compensation. Precisely. It says a lot about them as people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 Precisely. It says a lot about them as people. who says he never talked....he would not resign...that was different Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 To those who think Adkins should have been sacked before a new manager was interviewed and appointed, do you really believe that an interim manager for a few weeks, maybe Jason Dodd, would have been a good idea when we only have 16 games to avoid relegation? As for the new coaching staff, it is just possible that Pochettino, knowing he was coming to work in England and only has limited command of the language himself, might have considered whether any of his support staff could speak English or to what extent interpreters might be needed. On the other hand perhaps the players are all spending the weekend learning Spanish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 who says he never talked....he would not resign...that was different The principle is the same. He didn't want to leave S****horpe without compensation because he is an honourable man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 The principle is the same. He didn't want to leave S****horpe without compensation because he is an honourable man. indeed..he is a top bloke...that does not mean MP isnt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 With all of Adkins staff being sacked too does anyone know who have replaced them? With the new fella have limited English I'm hoping we have someone who can get the points across in the dugout ready for Monday!!! Most likely the Captain of the Belgrano will be there to help "steer the ship " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 indeed..he is a top bloke...that does not mean MP isnt All I said was I can't imagine adkins plotting to take over from another manager for weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersubpuckett Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 get over yourselves, this goes on all the time in business in this country and i'm sure nige was adequately compensated it wasn't mp's decision to sack adkins but you can't blame him for accepting a job like this or researching his new role i think the timing and manner of his departure was disappointing and wish him all the best (he's given us two of the best years as a fan i can remember) but i bet he wasn't as surprised as some of you lot ideal scenario for me from this point? NA gets a fabulous new job and we have a successful end oe our first season back in the premier league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue Saint Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 indeed..he is a top bloke...that does not mean MP isnt This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 get over yourselves, this goes on all the time in business in this country and i'm sure nige was adequately compensated it wasn't mp's decision to sack adkins but you can't blame him for accepting a job like this or researching his new role i think the timing and manner of his departure was disappointing and wish him all the best (he's given us two of the best years as a fan i can remember) but i bet he wasn't as surprised as some of you lot ideal scenario for me from this point? NA gets a fabulous new job and we have a successful end oe our first season back in the premier league Compensation can not buy morals, can not buy class and it cant buy trust. We deserve the hammering we are getting, or Cortese and the club he manages,runs, owns and operates does or does not as the case may be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 All I said was I can't imagine adkins plotting to take over from another manager for weeks. you cant imagine....well, football is a cut throat world.....nothing should be ruled out nigel is clearly a top guy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 (edited) of course, the new manager (can't spell his name yet) will have his own assistants, coaches etc...but unless they are a bit more proficient in English..... that translater is going to have a lot to do.. Edited 19 January, 2013 by david in sweden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 get over yourselves, this goes on all the time in business in this country and i'm sure nige was adequately compensated it wasn't mp's decision to sack adkins but you can't blame him for accepting a job like this or researching his new role i think the timing and manner of his departure was disappointing and wish him all the best (he's given us two of the best years as a fan i can remember) but i bet he wasn't as surprised as some of you lot ideal scenario for me from this point? NA gets a fabulous new job and we have a successful end oe our first season back in the premier league Quite correct. It does go on all the time in business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 that i am afraid is the way it works throughout football No, not throughout football. Like I say, they won't be the first or last to do it, doesn't make it right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS1980 Posted 19 January, 2013 Author Share Posted 19 January, 2013 Wonder if they have been to a few games to watch their future squad already... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 get over yourselves, this goes on all the time in business in this country 1) No, it doesn't. 2) Doesn't make it right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 This cloak and dagger stuff makes my blood boil, business should not be done like that, would anybody like this done to them? I would be distraught and the thought of my boss headhunting and actively going out and seeking new managers behind my back is frightening, what kind of character is this new guy? This is completely the norm in the world of football today. You do realise that don't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 The principle is the same. He didn't want to leave S****horpe without compensation because he is an honourable man. This isn't an issue. Adkins has always shown himself to be a man with clear principles but that doesn't make him the best person to manage Southampton. A manager who can achieve a point per game and can only win 3 out of 11 home games, isn't good enough to survive in the Prem. Surely it would be better to be in The Prem with a new manager than in the Championship because the Chairman had put loyalty to Adkins above success for SFC. Whether Pochettino will keep us up, we have to wait and see but he doesn't have a great act to follow as far as the first half of this season is concerned. How things pan out will give us the answer but stubbornly refusing to accept that when performances are weak a change might be for the best doesn't seem the best way forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 This is completely the norm in the world of football today. You do realise that don't you? I can't think of too many cases whereby the incoming manager admits to watching us for weeks, is announced as our new manager at the same time as Adkins is told he has been sacked (from some reports by seeing it reported on tv). No-one is saying modern football doesn't have a fairly ruthless aspect to it, but the morals of this are s***e regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudders Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 This cloak and dagger stuff makes my blood boil, business should not be done like that, would anybody like this done to them? I would be distraught and the thought of my boss headhunting and actively going out and seeking new managers behind my back is frightening, what kind of character is this new guy? Are you serious? When pards was given the boot everyone was complaining that someone else wasn't already lined up. This time Cortese has got somebody lined up in advance people are saying it's underhand, the chairman can't win can he. From a business continuity perspective, if any chairmen, managers, team leaders are thinking of taking someone out of a role, they should also be thinking about who they are going to bring in as a replacement to keep the business moving. It's no different than Adkins thinking about taking someone out of the first team and bringing someone else in, Cortese has just done it on a bigger scale (and we're led to believe by the media it hasn't been handled very well). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seaford Saint Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 This isn't an issue. Adkins has always shown himself to be a man with clear principles but that doesn't make him the best person to manage Southampton. A manager who can achieve a point per game and can only win 3 out of 11 home games, isn't good enough to survive in the Prem. Surely it would be better to be in The Prem with a new manager than in the Championship because the Chairman had put loyalty to Adkins above success for SFC. Whether Pochettino will keep us up, we have to wait and see but he doesn't have a great act to follow as far as the first half of this season is concerned. How things pan out will give us the answer but stubbornly refusing to accept that when performances are weak a change might be for the best doesn't seem the best way forward. Surely he and the team were on a steep learning curve and had done their learning.....no defeat in the last five games. Players had come in to replace weaker ones. I do believe Nigel would have kept us up....not sure about this new guy. Unless we have an infkux of arrivals, that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 Surprised Wilkins went, when NC actually promised him a role at the club for life after Pardew was sacked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BILLY Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 Most likely the Captain of the Belgrano will be there to help "steer the ship " What a ******* pointless comment! I think 800 men died on the Belgrano. I glad we kept the Falklands British but no need to mock the men who died - on both sides. You should be ashamed of yourself! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 Surprised Wilkins went, when NC actually promised him a role at the club for life after Pardew was sacked. Glad someone else remembered this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CamberwellSaint Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 Most likely the Captain of the Belgrano will be there to help "steer the ship " I'll bet Adkins is at home thinking, "I hope the fans don't kick off with anything really juvenile. That's what has poisoned the atmosphere at Stamford Bridge and Saints don't need it". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 Might be worth having Jason Dodd and Martin Hunter involved on Monday to help with the transition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golac's Cunning Stunts Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 I'll bet Adkins is at home thinking, "I hope the fans don't kick off with anything really juvenile. That's what has poisoned the atmosphere at Stamford Bridge and Saints don't need it". I'll bet he isn't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golac's Cunning Stunts Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 What a ******* pointless comment! I think 800 men died on the Belgrano. I glad we kept the Falklands British but no need to mock the men who died - on both sides. You should be ashamed of yourself! Hopefully we haven't got another Argie in charge of a sinking ship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 Hopefully we haven't got another Argie in charge of a sinking ship all getting a bit weird talking about the belgrano...he more than likely does not care..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BILLY Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 Hopefully we haven't got another Argie in charge of a sinking ship And you continue with your stupid comments - get a life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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