georgeweahscousin Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 For anyone (like me) who didn't know too much about him, I had a chat with a La Liga expert. He is pretty positive about him! http://wp.me/p1mFFL-s9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 this guy is so highly regarded in spain. I wonder why no clubs in Spain offered him a job? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joesaint Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le Tissier Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 I'm sure this fella will be a success. Everything that's happened is not his fault. Thing is he could go to Chelsea win everything and be the next Jose. Then it would only be a dream to have someone like this. However you are only as good as your players. So lets hope he's ****ing good. Either way its only going to be a short appointment. If he fails he'll be sacked and if he is a genius he will leave to a bigger club. I think people are more ****ed with the way Nigel has been treated rather than who the new guy is. My only criticism is that he can't speak English. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puddings and Monkeys Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 this guy is so highly regarded in spain. I wonder why no clubs in Spain offered him a job? Do you know that for a fact or are you guessing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 Sounds good but La Liga aint the Premership. So we'll all have to wait and see if his well meaning words come true - I hope so for SFC's sake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 this guy is so highly regarded in spain. I wonder why no clubs in Spain offered him a job? Guilleme Balague said he recently turned down Valencia and Sampdoria . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 Guilleme Balague said he recently turned down Valencia and Sampdoria . I've seen the mention of Sampdoria but not Valencia - very interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 Whatever we think of the NA sacking its a different issue to the appointment that has been made. NC wouldn't have done it unless he genuinely thought this guy will do better than NA did. He is hardly a joker having been La Liga coach of the year a few years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 I've seen the mention of Sampdoria but not Valencia - very interesting. Yup definitely heard Valencia mentioned. And was touted as a possible Real Madrid boss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 this guy is so highly regarded in spain. I wonder why no clubs in Spain offered him a job? They did I for one am excited, dissapointed at what has happened today, but excited for our future right now. All I need is some transfers to turn my head Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 I've been told he's been brought in specifically to get the best out of Steve De Ridder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 this guy is so highly regarded in spain. I wonder why no clubs in Spain offered him a job? He's got good stats on football manager, except fitness is 3. I don't know about you Glesga but this gives me anxiety pains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 I've been told he's been brought in specifically to get the best out of Steve De Ridder. Not possible I'm afraid we've already seen the best of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 Guilleme Balague said he recently turned down Valencia and Sampdoria . Yeah but he is his mate. It is like asking me if bearsy was linked with knees up mother brown. His opinion means nothing as it is bias. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 Would be very interested to hear the views of a cross-section of Espanyol fans. Any chance georgeweahscousin? Cheers for that article btw. Interesting reading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 Yup definitely heard Valencia mentioned. And was touted as a possible Real Madrid boss. During his ascendency with Ipswich George Burley was once lauded as a possible successor to Sir Alex Ferguson at Old Trafford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pingwing Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 Not possible I'm afraid we've already seen the best of him. And that was a youtube video many moons ago, hit his peak then scored a big contact from it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colehillsaint Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 During his ascendency with Ipswich George Burley was once lauded as a possible successor to Sir Alex Ferguson at Old Trafford. Lets drink to that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceandfriendly Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 Thanks for the article Chris, good work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 (edited) Guilleme Balague said he recently turned down Valencia and Sampdoria . 1) Sampdoria was in the first two years of his four year reign aka the good 2 years. 2) Valencia have never offered him a job 3) If i had an agent and he/she links me to the Barcelona job, does that make me a top "forward thinking" manager? Edited 18 January, 2013 by Glasgow_Saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 this guy is so highly regarded in spain. I wonder why no clubs in Spain offered him a job? Probably because he only left Espanyol in November, just 2 months ago, there are no clubs in Spain with a managerial vacancy, he isn't Spanish and has said he wants to work in the Premier League because it is currently seen as the top League in Europe. Trying to undermine him with comments like that made by G_S is not in the interests of SFC, so lets get behind MP and wish him well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LVSaint Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 Yup definitely heard Valencia mentioned. And was touted as a possible Real Madrid boss. Was that before or after he guided Espanyol to twentieth in La Liga? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/mauricio-pochettino-goes-from-real-madrid-link-to-battling-against-relegation-8458285.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 Probably because he only left Espanyol in November, just 2 months ago, there are no clubs in Spain with a managerial vacancy, he isn't Spanish and has said he wants to work in the Premier League because it is currently seen as the top League in Europe. Trying to undermine him with comments like that made by G_S is not in the interests of SFC, so lets get behind MP and wish him well. We didn't have a managerial vacancy either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 Spanish clubs work in a strange way, most of them elect a president (chairman) every x years or so. Espanyol got a new president a while back and the first thing he did was fire Pochettino and put his own man in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/mauricio-pochettino-goes-from-real-madrid-link-to-battling-against-relegation-8458285.html I note that this article mentions our latest managers policy of promoting youth team players into the first team - it may well be significant that this aspect of the game was specifically mentioned on the OS too yesterday. So perhaps the underlying cause for NA's dismissal was that Chairman and Manager were in fundamental disagreement re how fast our youngsters should be brought through? If that is the heart of the matter - and I must point out that I don't know for sure that it is - then I for one would trust a football mans opinion on that matter, over that of some Banker, seven days a week and twice on Sundays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 I note that this article mentions our latest managers policy of promoting youth team players into the first team - it may well be significant that this aspect of the game was specifically mentioned on the OS too yesterday. So perhaps the underlying cause for NA's dismissal was that Chairman and Manager were in fundamental disagreement re how fast our youngsters should be brought through? If that is the heart of the matter - and I must point out that I don't know for sure that it is - then I for one would trust a football mans opinion on that matter, over that of some Banker, seven days a week and twice on Sundays. I noticed that as well, I've said a few times that there seems to be an awful lot of wastage from our academy and that there are certain positions that we don't seem to develop at all well. Left back...tops, CB ..inexistant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNOWY Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 His record suggests that after a decent start at Espanyol the team steadily declined resulting in a parting of the ways in November. Espanyol have improved considerably under their new manager which would suggest that he was part of the problem. Adkins achieved 17 points from our last 12 matches, an excellent progression after a difficult start..But not good enough for Cortese. It would be useful if Cortese could let us all know what his expectations are for the remainder of the season so that we can reasonably judge MP's performance. What is the "next level"? Good luck to MP, he is going to need it working for Cortese & Reed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 I noticed that as well, I've said a few times that there seems to be an awful lot of wastage from our academy and that there are certain positions that we don't seem to develop at all well. Left back...tops, CB ..inexistant. So the positions developed at academy level is the issue of the first team manager now? Adkins had integrated Shaw brilliantly and was also a big advocate of JWP and Ben Reeves. If the plan is to swamp our first team with academy players then we are in trouble. Giving debuts to 23 academy players sounds sounds desperate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 His record suggests that after a decent start at Espanyol the team steadily declined resulting in a parting of the ways in November. Espanyol have improved considerably under their new manager which would suggest that he was part of the problem. My understanding of the Espanyol situation is that the club's increasingly bad financial position meant that Pochittino was less and less able to put his strategy and methods into practice, and thus you had a vicious circle of decline. I don't know what type of football Espanyol are playing under the new manager but I would imagine it's a type of football that fits better to a system that is much more sustainable under a declining financial model. Don't forget Adkins got relegated with S****horpe when, as I understand it, they hit the financial buffers. So, I don't personally read too much into how Espanyol are playing now vs how they were playing in the latter days of Pochittino's tenure. These situations are rarely that black and white. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 I note that this article mentions our latest managers policy of promoting youth team players into the first team - it may well be significant that this aspect of the game was specifically mentioned on the OS too yesterday. So perhaps the underlying cause for NA's dismissal was that Chairman and Manager were in fundamental disagreement re how fast our youngsters should be brought through? If that is the heart of the matter - and I must point out that I don't know for sure that it is - then I for one would trust a football mans opinion on that matter, over that of some Banker, seven days a week and twice on Sundays. It was a similar situation with Lowe and Rednapp. It's not that easy to have a competitive team full of academy youngsters. If it were, they'd all be doing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNOWY Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 (edited) http://www.thenational.ae/sport/football/javier-aguirre-has-revived-espanyol Worth a read. Finished 14th with 8th highest wage bill in La Liga. Edited 19 January, 2013 by SNOWY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 I'm prepared to back him all the way, but I don't accept that the downturn was simply due to losing players. This season Espanyol got 9 points from 13 games under him. After he left they picked up 10 from the next 6. In stark contrast to NA, also sounds as if he doesn't cope well or bounce back when things aren't going do well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 I'm prepared to back him all the way, but I don't accept that the downturn was simply due to losing players. This season Espanyol got 9 points from 13 games under him. After he left they picked up 10 from the next 6. In stark contrast to NA, also sounds as if he doesn't cope well or bounce back when things aren't going do well. Yes, that is a worry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 22 January, 2013 Share Posted 22 January, 2013 Not sure if this has been posted already? http://www.skysports.com/video/inline/0,,17100_7521971,00.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 22 January, 2013 Share Posted 22 January, 2013 Not sure if this has been posted already? http://www.skysports.com/video/inline/0,,17100_7521971,00.html Hmmmmmmmmmm First we nick Liverpools new signing Then we nick Real's next manager Damn funny stuff being put in our water these days, I blame that French Gas thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 22 January, 2013 Share Posted 22 January, 2013 Not sure if this has been posted already? http://www.skysports.com/video/inline/0,,17100_7521971,00.html He's crap and no one has ever heard of him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 22 January, 2013 Share Posted 22 January, 2013 He's crap and no one has ever heard of him Perhaps we had to step in quickly before someone else signed him up then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 22 January, 2013 Share Posted 22 January, 2013 Perhaps we had to step in quickly before someone else signed him up then. Genuinely think it's a step up. Don't really understand the double standard in footy, tbh. Ok to replace players on a whim but not managers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tttdcs Posted 22 January, 2013 Share Posted 22 January, 2013 Joan Verdu any good ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 22 January, 2013 Share Posted 22 January, 2013 Joan Verdu any good ? Best player at Espanyol (from what I've heard/read). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golac's Cunning Stunts Posted 22 January, 2013 Share Posted 22 January, 2013 I'm sure this fella will be a success. Everything that's happened is not his fault. Thing is he could go to Chelsea win everything and be the next Jose. Then it would only be a dream to have someone like this. However you are only as good as your players. So lets hope he's ****ing good. Either way its only going to be a short appointment. If he fails he'll be sacked and if he is a genius he will leave to a bigger club. I think people are more ****ed with the way Nigel has been treated rather than who the new guy is. My only criticism is that he can't speak English. Why do you think that? The guy has only ever managed one team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 22 January, 2013 Share Posted 22 January, 2013 Why do you think that? The guy has only ever managed one team? Well that's convinced me. Pochittino out! (FFS) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golac's Cunning Stunts Posted 22 January, 2013 Share Posted 22 January, 2013 Well that's convinced me. Pochittino out! (FFS) Great reply. Where did I say get him out? k-n-o-b Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 22 January, 2013 Share Posted 22 January, 2013 Why do you think that? The guy has only ever managed one team? Bob Paisley only ever managed one team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 22 January, 2013 Share Posted 22 January, 2013 Great reply. Where did I say get him out? k-n-o-b My reply was indeed great but not a patch on yours. I'm learning fast though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golac's Cunning Stunts Posted 22 January, 2013 Share Posted 22 January, 2013 My reply was indeed great but not a patch on yours. I'm learning fast though. Apologies - uncalled for by me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 22 January, 2013 Share Posted 22 January, 2013 Genuinely think it's a step up. Don't really understand the double standard in footy, tbh. Ok to replace players on a whim but not managers? God not this again. You can replace 1/11th of the team with someone of similar ability with minimal impact. You cannot replace 100% of the management staff without long term effects (though you can get away with it for a little while, as Adkins' team proved yesterday). If you were to replace 100% of the match day team, you would see a significant difference. Therefore it is perfectly reasonably to replace a player on a whim but not to do so with a manager (or an entire team). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 22 January, 2013 Share Posted 22 January, 2013 Joan Verdu any good ? Who is she? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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