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We got to the premiership with Adkins doing a great job with the players he had. This season we've turned into a mini Chelsea, spending millions that we haven't got. We now have a manager with no premiership experience, no grasp of the English language who'll probably get us relegated. Our massive overspending will be revealed, we'll go into administration and Cortese will sink of to the murky depths of Italian banking where he belongs.

 

I genuinely hope this happens. Maybe then we'll finally have our club back. Until then, I'm out. In fact, it's going to take a lot to convince me to come back to football at all. After the year of alternative sport we had in 2012, I can't honestly see anything football has to recommend it.

 

Over and out.

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Maybe then we'll finally have our club back.....
Seems to me that a lot of people have been saying this over recent years/decades - regardless of league position, manager, chairman, solvency etc etc etc What will determine whether or not we have our club back, because there have been a lot of different scenarios in recent years and none of them seem to be good enough?
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We got to the premiership with Adkins doing a great job with the players he had. This season we've turned into a mini Chelsea, spending millions that we haven't got. We now have a manager with no premiership experience, no grasp of the English language who'll probably get us relegated. Our massive overspending will be revealed, we'll go into administration and Cortese will sink of to the murky depths of Italian banking where he belongs.

 

I genuinely hope this happens. Maybe then we'll finally have our club back. Until then, I'm out. In fact, it's going to take a lot to convince me to come back to football at all. After the year of alternative sport we had in 2012, I can't honestly see anything football has to recommend it.

 

Over and out.

 

Genuine question - what is the definition of "having our club back" - what does it actually mean?

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Genuine question - what is the definition of "having our club back" - what does it actually mean?

 

A club that cares about the fans? Not one ruled by a power hungry dictator. I don't want this club to become the new Chelsea, which is what I can see happening with Cortese at the helm. It's becoming soulless.

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A club that cares about the fans? Not one ruled by a power hungry dictator. I don't want this club to become the new Chelsea, which is what I can see happening with Cortese at the helm. It's becoming soulless.
When did we last have that then? The Ted Bates era perhaps. Has it all been dreadful since then?
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Having our club back means, not having an arrogant deluded arsehole running it with no respect for anyone who works for him or the fans that support it, and sacking one of the brightest and best young managers in the country for some Argie **** who can't even speak English.

I don't wish to be associated with a club ran by such a spoilt rich boy who thinks he can treat everyone like ****.

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We got to the premiership with Adkins doing a great job with the players he had. This season we've turned into a mini Chelsea, spending millions that we haven't got. We now have a manager with no premiership experience, no grasp of the English language who'll probably get us relegated. Our massive overspending will be revealed, we'll go into administration and Cortese will sink of to the murky depths of Italian banking where he belongs.

 

I genuinely hope this happens. Maybe then we'll finally have our club back. Until then, I'm out. In fact, it's going to take a lot to convince me to come back to football at all. After the year of alternative sport we had in 2012, I can't honestly see anything football has to recommend it.

 

Over and out.

 

I have a lot of sympathy for that viewpoint.

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Having our club back means, not having an arrogant deluded arsehole running it with no respect for anyone who works for him or the fans that support it, and sacking one of the brightest and best young managers in the country for some Argie **** who can't even speak English.

I don't wish to be associated with a club ran by such a spoilt rich boy who thinks he can treat everyone like ****.

I agree with the sentiment (apart from the "Argie" xenophobic reference).
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Having our club back means, not having an arrogant deluded arsehole running it with no respect for anyone who works for him or the fans that support it, and sacking one of the brightest and best young managers in the country for some Argie **** who can't even speak English.

 

 

How much do you know about the new manager then?

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We got to the premiership with Adkins doing a great job with the players he had. This season we've turned into a mini Chelsea, spending millions that we haven't got. We now have a manager with no premiership experience, no grasp of the English language who'll probably get us relegated. Our massive overspending will be revealed, we'll go into administration and Cortese will sink of to the murky depths of Italian banking where he belongs.

 

I genuinely hope this happens. Maybe then we'll finally have our club back. Until then, I'm out. In fact, it's going to take a lot to convince me to come back to football at all. After the year of alternative sport we had in 2012, I can't honestly see anything football has to recommend it.

 

Over and out.

 

Go support Norwich instead you absolute joke

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I look at a club like Swansea and see that as a model for what our club could be like, successful, but still very much tied into it's fans in every way.

 

In fairness Swansea are a great example but sadly probably the only example of combining success and fan orientated.

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The difference is Swansea's manager left with good grace to go to a bigger club and the good people that run their club then appointed another quality manager.

Our chairman acted like a spoilt brat, sacked a good honest and successful manager and appointed a relatively unknown one who can't even communicate with most of the players. Cretinous and shamefully disrespectfull to all.

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I saw him at the Rosetta Stone stool in West Quay last week, before buying some olive and sunblushed tomato ciabatta and telling the manicure set seller to foxtrot oscar

 

 

If you set foot in Westquay smirker, youre a braver man than me.

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In fairness Swansea are a great example but sadly probably the only example of combining success and fan orientated.
Shows it's hardly rocket science for it to happen though. That is how the game will eventually end up, once all these f*****g money men p**s off and find a new toy.
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Rebirth? Eh? Sounds like you want to move a few miles along the M27.

 

Interesting you making the connection with our fishy friends there. If we've learned anything from the hilarity of the Takeover Saga thread it's that we don't want the same thing to happen to us. Many posters on here point the accusing finger at Skate fans for accepting what was going on at their club for the short-term glory and ignoring the glaringly obvious fact that it would only ever end badly for them. Are we to do the same? Sit back and say "oh well - if Nicola wants to spunk loads of borrowed funds and go for the glory then he must know what he's doing"?

 

One recurring theme we get from our pet Skates on the PTS thread is that they would happily see the club fall lower if it meant they could finally get rid of the cancer that has been killing them for the last few years and start afresh with an honest club that they can be proud of. That resonates with me right now. Cortese has had my full support up until now. He's rubbed a few people up the wrong way along the line, and I always previously adopted the belief that you sometimes have to be a little ruthless if you want to succeed and didn't allow myself to be bothered by it, but not any more. This action he has taken today has left me sick to my stomach.

 

EVERYTHING that Nigel has achieved here over the last two and a half years has come about because of the honest values of the man, the man that united the fanbase in a way that nobody has done since the days of Gordon Strachan. Far and away the best manager I have seen in my Saints-supporting life, and one that I really felt could finally provide us with the stability we have been craving since Chris Nicholl was sacked 21 years ago. His optimism and belief was infectious and there is no doubt in my mind he will go on to greater things. He brought a feelgood factor to SFC because of his integrity, and in one foul swoop today a narrow-minded, megalomaniac fool has wiped out all trace of that and turned us into Chelsea mark II.

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Having our club back means, not having an arrogant deluded arsehole running it with no respect for anyone who works for him or the fans that support it, and sacking one of the brightest and best young managers in the country.

I don't wish to be associated with a club ran by such a spoilt rich boy who thinks he can treat everyone like ****.

 

Edited slightly, but this is exactly how I feel - and have done for some time.

 

He has also succeeded by his actions today of making the club very unpopular in the wider football community, as is evidenced by this amazing response in in comments section of this BBC article. (2305 comments at present)

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21079956

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Interesting you making the connection with our fishy friends there. If we've learned anything from the hilarity of the Takeover Saga thread it's that we don't want the same thing to happen to us. Many posters on here point the accusing finger at Skate fans for accepting what was going on at their club for the short-term glory and ignoring the glaringly obvious fact that it would only ever end badly for them. Are we to do the same? Sit back and say "oh well - if Nicola wants to spunk loads of borrowed funds and go for the glory then he must know what he's doing"?

 

One recurring theme we get from our pet Skates on the PTS thread is that they would happily see the club fall lower if it meant they could finally get rid of the cancer that has been killing them for the last few years and start afresh with an honest club that they can be proud of. That resonates with me right now. Cortese has had my full support up until now. He's rubbed a few people up the wrong way along the line, and I always previously adopted the belief that you sometimes have to be a little ruthless if you want to succeed and didn't allow myself to be bothered by it, but not any more. This action he has taken today has left me sick to my stomach.

 

EVERYTHING that Nigel has achieved here over the last two and a half years has come about because of the honest values of the man, the man that united the fanbase in a way that nobody has done since the days of Gordon Strachan. Far and away the best manager I have seen in my Saints-supporting life, and one that I really felt could finally provide us with the stability we have been craving since Chris Nicholl was sacked 21 years ago. His optimism and belief was infectious and there is no doubt in my mind he will go on to greater things. He brought a feelgood factor to SFC because of his integrity, and in one foul swoop today a narrow-minded, megalomaniac fool has wiped out all trace of that and turned us into Chelsea mark II.

 

Only poorer, with no chance of ever winning the Champions League, regardless of what that loon Cortese thinks.

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We got to the premiership with Adkins doing a great job with the players he had. This season we've turned into a mini Chelsea, spending millions that we haven't got. We now have a manager with no premiership experience, no grasp of the English language who'll probably get us relegated. Our massive overspending will be revealed, we'll go into administration and Cortese will sink of to the murky depths of Italian banking where he belongs.

 

I genuinely hope this happens. Maybe then we'll finally have our club back. Until then, I'm out. In fact, it's going to take a lot to convince me to come back to football at all. After the year of alternative sport we had in 2012, I can't honestly see anything football has to recommend it.

 

Over and out.

 

Pathetic. You're either a plastic or a skate or both. Good riddence - no spine.

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Edited slightly, but this is exactly how I feel - and have done for some time.

 

He has also succeeded by his actions today of making the club very unpopular in the wider football community, as is evidenced by this amazing response in in comments section of this BBC article. (2305 comments at present)

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21079956

 

100% agree.

 

A club is more then it's league position. Would you rather sit 1st have no soul and be hated by everyone or be last have dignity, respect and be praised by the community for how you act?

 

We have no say in how the club is run, have no say in who stays and who goes. We have no respect for staff, previous players, the fans and people who have done good things here. Who would want to support something like that?

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Interesting you making the connection with our fishy friends there. If we've learned anything from the hilarity of the Takeover Saga thread it's that we don't want the same thing to happen to us. Many posters on here point the accusing finger at Skate fans for accepting what was going on at their club for the short-term glory and ignoring the glaringly obvious fact that it would only ever end badly for them. Are we to do the same? Sit back and say "oh well - if Nicola wants to spunk loads of borrowed funds and go for the glory then he must know what he's doing"?

 

One recurring theme we get from our pet Skates on the PTS thread is that they would happily see the club fall lower if it meant they could finally get rid of the cancer that has been killing them for the last few years and start afresh with an honest club that they can be proud of. That resonates with me right now. Cortese has had my full support up until now. He's rubbed a few people up the wrong way along the line, and I always previously adopted the belief that you sometimes have to be a little ruthless if you want to succeed and didn't allow myself to be bothered by it, but not any more. This action he has taken today has left me sick to my stomach.

 

EVERYTHING that Nigel has achieved here over the last two and a half years has come about because of the honest values of the man, the man that united the fanbase in a way that nobody has done since the days of Gordon Strachan. Far and away the best manager I have seen in my Saints-supporting life, and one that I really felt could finally provide us with the stability we have been craving since Chris Nicholl was sacked 21 years ago. His optimism and belief was infectious and there is no doubt in my mind he will go on to greater things. He brought a feelgood factor to SFC because of his integrity, and in one foul swoop today a narrow-minded, megalomaniac fool has wiped out all trace of that and turned us into Chelsea mark II.

Fantastic post.I totally agree with this.

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Where was all this melodrama earlier in the season? The likes of Dean Hammond, Lee Barnard, Billy Sharp, Dan Harding all served us well over the promotion seasons, but were discarded - did they not deserve a crack at the big time having got us there? Kelvin Davis has been a rock for us in recent years - yet he too was quickly discarded after a few games. Nigel did not consider them good enough and sought replacements. Were fans up in arms then?

 

Nigel is just a piece of the machine - Cortese does not believe he is up to the longer term ambitions of the club and has acted to replace him. I 100% feel that Nigel should have been given to the end of the season.....but Cortese felt otherwise and I am dismayed by the hysterical over-reaction of many on here. Get behind the team and Mauricio FFS!!

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We got to the premiership with Adkins doing a great job with the players he had. This season we've turned into a mini Chelsea, spending millions that we haven't got. We now have a manager with no premiership experience, no grasp of the English language who'll probably get us relegated. Our massive overspending will be revealed, we'll go into administration and Cortese will sink of to the murky depths of Italian banking where he belongs.

 

I genuinely hope this happens. Maybe then we'll finally have our club back. Until then, I'm out. In fact, it's going to take a lot to convince me to come back to football at all. After the year of alternative sport we had in 2012, I can't honestly see anything football has to recommend it.

 

Over and out.

 

Same here

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Where was all this melodrama earlier in the season? The likes of Dean Hammond, Lee Barnard, Billy Sharp, Dan Harding all served us well over the promotion seasons, but were discarded - did they not deserve a crack at the big time having got us there? Kelvin Davis has been a rock for us in recent years - yet he too was quickly discarded after a few games. Nigel did not consider them good enough and sought replacements. Were fans up in arms then?

 

Nigel is just a piece of the machine - Cortese does not believe he is up to the longer term ambitions of the club and has acted to replace him. I 100% feel that Nigel should have been given to the end of the season.....but Cortese felt otherwise and I am dismayed by the hysterical over-reaction of many on here. Get behind the team and Mauricio FFS!!

 

It's the timing and the manner of his dismissal that upset me.

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We got to the premiership with Adkins doing a great job with the players he had. This season we've turned into a mini Chelsea, spending millions that we haven't got. We now have a manager with no premiership experience, no grasp of the English language who'll probably get us relegated. Our massive overspending will be revealed, we'll go into administration and Cortese will sink of to the murky depths of Italian banking where he belongs.

 

I genuinely hope this happens. Maybe then we'll finally have our club back. Until then, I'm out. In fact, it's going to take a lot to convince me to come back to football at all. After the year of alternative sport we had in 2012, I can't honestly see anything football has to recommend it.

 

Over and out.

 

Barely anyone is particularly happy about this, infact the majority of us are pretty angry right now, but for gods sake what a drama queen you really are. Total wet blanket, get a grip you utter clown

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Barely anyone is particularly happy about this, infact the majority of us are pretty angry right now, but for gods sake what a drama queen you really are. Total wet blanket, get a grip you utter clown

 

This, I know its not as bad but I remember when the new shirts came out, get over it and support the club moving forward or ***k off

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EVERYTHING that Nigel has achieved here over the last two and a half years has come about because of the honest values of the man, the man that united the fanbase in a way that nobody has done since the days of Gordon Strachan. Far and away the best manager I have seen in my Saints-supporting life, and one that I really felt could finally provide us with the stability we have been craving since Chris Nicholl was sacked 21 years ago. His optimism and belief was infectious and there is no doubt in my mind he will go on to greater things. He brought a feelgood factor to SFC because of his integrity, and in one foul swoop today a narrow-minded, megalomaniac fool has wiped out all trace of that and turned us into Chelsea mark II.

 

Spot on.

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Makes me laugh.

 

I've lost count of the "best 2 years of my life" supporters, bemoaning NC's treatment of Nigel after the wonderful 2 years he gave us. Yet they dont want that evil NC running the club, they want the sucsess he bought, they matched his ambition to get back to the Premiership, but now we're there, "can we get off now, can you tone your ambition down Nicola".

 

 

Had Leon Crouch cobbled together some sort of consortianum, we'd have our club back. Lawrie could get in for free, Matt could wave on the pitch, Osman do the halftime nonsense. We wouldn't sack decent people like Nigel, we would be respected in the press and on SSN. Does anyone seriously beleiev we'd be watching Gaston and drawing with Chelsea.

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You really don't get it. You have the win at all costs mentality but for some it is about more than just winning.

 

So were you up in arms when Nigel displayed this "win at all costs" attitude towards Dean Hammond, surely he deserved a chance in the Premiership. Or Kelvin, surely he deserved better that being dumped for a kid and then a Nutter. He may have cost us a few goals, but football's about more than just winning.

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When did we last have that then? The Ted Bates era perhaps. Has it all been dreadful since then?
it is all emperors new clothes. I have never felt the club to be that welcoming at anytime. Perhaps FF , the sponsors, and any one who provided a bit of free service,may have seen some of it as they were useful to the club.

Every school holiday my brother and me would walk from Shirley to the Dell car park to wait for the players to come out from training to get autographs. Out would come one of the club officers and throw us out of the car park. Those were the days when kids and women were not welcome at football. The clubs then woke up to the fact of merchandising etc and all of a sudden they couldn't do enough for the later generations. Do not believe that any football club cherishes its fans as much as they make out, like Starbucks or any other big business, money is the main reason they are there. Saying that NC and ML set up the Saints foundation and that is the closest I have seen to a proper charitable scheme set up.

Iam cynical i know but it does make me smile when I see fans worrying what other fans feel about us. At the end of the day we all have soft spots for certain teams but when we were hours from being wound up where were they? People say they hope we go down, most of them did already.

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So were you up in arms when Nigel displayed this "win at all costs" attitude towards Dean Hammond, surely he deserved a chance in the Premiership. Or Kelvin, surely he deserved better that being dumped for a kid and then a Nutter. He may have cost us a few goals, but football's about more than just winning.

 

It's this for me I'm afraid.

 

Hammond, Harding, Sharp, Davis, chaplow, jos even from a sentiment point of view should have had a crack at the prem without the spectre of being replaced.

 

Nigels record has been outstanding for saints, and I love the guys attitude. One of the reasons it hurts so much is he is such a likeable man. But for reasons we probably will never know he wasn't deemed good enough by the people that matter in taking that decision, and, like the players listed above has been replaced.

 

It seems irrational, unfair, immoral even but Adkins is now not a physio turned manager but a well respected manager destined for a premier league team. Southampton FC gave him that opportunity. It's not him I'm worried about!

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It's the timing and the manner of his dismissal that upset me.
Whitey i hope you are well. Is the timing better now or after another 4or5games? The timing of the 2-2 with Chelsea was terrible for NC, can you imagine fans feelings towards NA if we had lost on Wednesday? Playing his wonder plan against Chelsea had us 2 down at half-time, it was only forced upon him to bringing RL onthat helped unsettle the Chelsea defence and in turn give us a focus to build from. Iam glad NA can walk away from here with his head held high, a wealthy man and with many jobs open to him. NA is a winner in all of this, we are the ones who are left holding our breath
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I was feeling really proud bout the Saints before yesterday. I was invested with Adkins he was like a hero, and I'm still mad that Cortese f*cked my hero in the arse. Yesterday I felt the same as Partridge Saint like I don't give a f*ck bout Southampton no more, but today I feel a little bit better. Probably by Monday I'll probably be back to getting behind the club. I'm fickle like that!

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I was feeling really proud bout the Saints before yesterday. I was invested with Adkins he was like a hero, and I'm still mad that Cortese f*cked my hero in the arse. Yesterday I felt the same as Partridge Saint like I don't give a f*ck bout Southampton no more, but today I feel a little bit better. Probably by Monday I'll probably be back to getting behind the club. I'm fickle like that!
Bearsy you keep me sane with your insanities, lol
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