Matthew Le Tissier Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 Lots of interesting tweets from those in the world of football tonight. Micky Channon has hit the nail on the head I think. @Mick_Channon_TV: A rich man's toy doesn't belong to those that care most. Sad, wrong, but true. #saintsfc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles34 Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 All these ex players who haven't realised that football has moved on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 See the sad thing is that if Mick had written that yesterday, the usual suspects would be out having a right go at him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 All these ex players who haven't realised that football has moved on. It's not that it's just that cortese is an idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 It's not a rich mans toy though. it's a spolit, petulant, egotistical wan*ker given free rein with him mates credit card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 It's not a rich mans toy though. it's a spolit, petulant, egotistical wan*ker given free rein with him mates credit card. This. I now believe it's this. I just hope high-heels has got this one right... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 It's not that it's just that cortese is an idiot. "An idiot" who helped save the club from oblivion or years in the lower leagues and instead guided the club to the Premier League 3 years after taking charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 All these ex players who haven't realised that football has moved on. Isn't Mick's tweet about precisely that? All these forum posters who can't actually read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 This. I now believe it's this. I just hope high-heels has got this one right... Fair play to you crabs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 The club would have been saved. He has a lot of money that isn't his and the good he's done has been tempered by treating the fans like a bunch of kids, falling out with club legends and completely losing a moral compass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrZuess1979 the 2nd Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 If it goes tits up call NC all the names under the sun But with out him we'd probably not even have a club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 "An idiot" who helped save the club from oblivion or years in the lower leagues and instead guided the club to the Premier League 3 years after taking charge. Are you Cortese? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 Fair play to you crabs. I'm probably stupid, but what did I do? Sorry, my head's a bit of a mess right now, ha. I can't even choose teams for my accy at the moment! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anothersaintinsouthsea Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 "An idiot" who helped save the club from oblivion or years in the lower leagues and instead guided the club to the Premier League 3 years after taking charge. You say that like Cortese was the manager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le Tissier Posted 18 January, 2013 Author Share Posted 18 January, 2013 Yep. I don't think its a case of him not moving on. This is aimed at Cortese To be fair he is a rich man. And he certainly isn't in it for the love of the club. Its just to become richer. Why do people insist on saying Cortese saved us from oblivion. He just latched onto a good thing and got his mate to front the cash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 I'm probably stupid, but what did I do? Sorry, my head's a bit of a mess right now, ha. I can't even choose teams for my accy at the moment! For previously defending Cortese and then changing your mind in the face of the available evidence. Seems that is beyond the usual few on here but it shows them up for what they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hockey_saint Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 Are you Cortese? I see the in fighting has begun. It IS a FACT, HE guided Markus to buy the club and it was his astute signing of Adkins in the first place so perhaps we should give him a chance and stop moaning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles34 Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 Isn't Mick's tweet about precisely that? All these forum posters who can't actually read. No, Channons post is about how the club belongs to the fans, and how the likes of Roman and NC don't have the same sentiment. My observation is about the likes of Benali and co telling everyone how bad the decision is, because its not fair. There's no fair in football anymore. The game has changed so much, even from Mattys day. Posters that are a bit self pretentious eh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 You say that like Cortese was the manager No, I say it because without him we wouldn't be in the Premier League wondering why we sacked a manager. We'd either not exist or still be in the lower leagues. People were like this when Pardew was sacked, Cortese's plan worked then, why rule it out working again so quickly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 Are you Cortese? Is what I said not true then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 No, Channons post is about how the club belongs to the fans, and how the likes of Roman and NC don't have the same sentiment. My observation is about the likes of Benali and co telling everyone how bad the decision is, because its not fair. There's no fair in football anymore. The game has changed so much, even from Mattys day. Posters that are a bit self pretentious eh! It's wrong and if you just let things go like that it will get worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 No, Channons post is about how the club belongs to the fans, and how the likes of Roman and NC don't have the same sentiment. My observation is about the likes of Benali and co telling everyone how bad the decision is, because its not fair. There's no fair in football anymore. The game has changed so much, even from Mattys day. Posters that are a bit self pretentious eh! "Sad, wrong but true" you mean. Like Mick's tweet said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bwanamakubwa Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 This. I now believe it's this. I just hope high-heels has got this one right... He's got the last two right, otherwise we wouldn't be so upset. Personally, I thought Adkins was excellent. His attitude in the face of everything, his energy, his heart and soul thrown in to everything he does. I'm gutted he's gone, but he will be fine. He's no longer the physio who is a half decent manager, he's a premier league manager. It's Southampton football club I'm worried about and I really hope cortese gets three appointments right on the trot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 No, Channons post is about how the club belongs to the fans, and how the likes of Roman and NC don't have the same sentiment. My observation is about the likes of Benali and co telling everyone how bad the decision is, because its not fair. There's no fair in football anymore. The game has changed so much, even from Mattys day. Posters that are a bit self pretentious eh! So do all chairmen of moder Premiership clubs have to act like Cortese did today to be successful? I think not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
percy windham Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 Jack Saville (remember him?) was on twitter this morning calling Cortese a helmet. Jack Saville @JackSaville Maybe people will understand me when I said nicolai was a helmet.. Adkins was a great manager and an absolute gentleman.. Jack Saville @JackSaville Said it when I left last year.. Don't get that club at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrZuess1979 the 2nd Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 We could have dOne a lot worse Are you forgetting the jokers who were pref bidders And the shambles that own Coventry Yes he is a business man who is probably looking to get richer, or is he seeing a dream through for an old friend ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 For previously defending Cortese and then changing your mind in the face of the available evidence. Seems that is beyond the usual few on here but it shows them up for what they are. Well, yeah, I have. Cheers btw. I do know some things about Cortese that I've only disclosed to a few on here, so I had an idea. This is just the icing on the cake unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 Well, yeah, I have. Cheers btw. I do know some things about Cortese that I've only disclosed to a few on here, so I had an idea. This is just the icing on the cake unfortunately. That's why I was amazed at how loudly and frequently people were shouted down on here for daring to criticise Nicola. You didn't have to look far to find it. Speak to one or two people in corporate or a few ex or current employees off the record and it was clear what he was like. According to some on here though they were just jealous or deluded. My hope is that valid criticisms of this regime will be more widely listened to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 I see the in fighting has begun. It IS a FACT, HE guided Markus to buy the club and it was his astute signing of Adkins in the first place so perhaps we should give him a chance and stop moaning. So people aren't allowed to be annoyed at the sacking of the most succesful manager in our recent history? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rshephard3 Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 No, I say it because without him we wouldn't be in the Premier League wondering why we sacked a manager. We'd either not exist or still be in the lower leagues. People were like this when Pardew was sacked, Cortese's plan worked then, why rule it out working again so quickly? What is the plan? How much further can we go? Adkins took us from the relegation zone in League 1 and was moving up the table in the premiership. What is the overall plan? Europa League? Champions League? If so we don't need the odd £50,000 a week 12 million Ramirez do we? We need about £150million in squad investment and a large new spanking stadium. When Pardew was sacked we were somewhat of a sleeping giant and Adkins has not been able to show his potential with us. Basically how big can we be? If you sack Adkins after spending £100million on superstars I understand but he spend what was required to build a squad that was looking in good shape to stay up. In my lifetime a hard working Saints team that's good enough to hold its own in the top league is something to be truly proud of, not something to sack a manager over. When we qualify for the 2014/15 Champions League and beat Barca in a 100,000 seat stadium in Eastleigh with a shopping centre and 6 hotels attached to it I will eat my words. All of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LVSaint Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 People were like this when Pardew was sacked, Cortese's plan worked then, why rule it out working again so quickly? Looking back two years ago, Pardew's sacking had us puzzled, but it's a different scenario than it is now. That was early in the season, in a completely different league. Right now we find ourselves in a very delicate position perched above the relegation zone, but playing well, good recent results, good momentum etc. If this was destined to happen anyway, why not get the dirty business over with next summer? Why now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpweySaint Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 No, I say it because without him we wouldn't be in the Premier League wondering why we sacked a manager. We'd either not exist or still be in the lower leagues. People were like this when Pardew was sacked, Cortese's plan worked then, why rule it out working again so quickly? Pure speculation, not a fact. The Pardew sacking was differnet, we were underperforming, Adkins had exceeded expectations time and time again. Even so is being in the premier league all that? Is where the club is more important then what it is? For me, no, for others well mabe ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le Tissier Posted 18 January, 2013 Author Share Posted 18 January, 2013 The fact of the matter is there is a lot of fans that don't know things that have gone on etc etc bla bla. That's not there fault so rightly so they stand by Cortese. But in the past there has been the same posters trying to put posts across of what he's like and what he has done bla bla. But most tend to abuse people for trying to put across what he is actually like . I'll be the first to admit I'm pretty **** at putting my opinion across, give me a hammer and a saw I'm ok. I'm just not the best at putting across my point. But the long and short of it is I've never liked the man. As I've always said all will come out in the end and slowly but surly it is. You will not find any ex player who will have a good word to say about him, fact is they have left and they can now voice there opinon. Thats easy to dismiss it and say they are bitter, however you will also struggle to find any current player or employee to have a good word to say about him, but you won't hear about that from afar as its more than their jobs worth. All I want is the same as all of you which is the best for the club I love. Don't give the moron the satisfaction of a protest as he will thrive of that being the attention seeking sociopath he is, We need to get behind the team and stick together. I'm personally even going to give gully and Boruc a break for a few weeks and hope they prove me wrong with a new lease of life. If they don't ill be on there case again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Marco Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 Looking back two years ago, Pardew's sacking had us puzzled, but it's a different scenario than it is now. That was early in the season, in a completely different league. Right now we find ourselves in a very delicate position perched above the relegation zone, but playing well, good recent results, good momentum etc. If this was destined to happen anyway, why not get the dirty business over with next summer? Why now? Plus also Pardew had not delivered two promotions back to back and had the club 15th in the premier league. Pardew going was harsh but understandable. Sacking a guy to bring in a guy who himself was recently sacked by a relegation threatened team is not filling me with confidence. I hope it turns out well for us all but it has an erie feel to it that reminds me of when Wotte and Jan came in. They were hyped as guys who would take the club on with their total football style. Turned out to be total ******** more like. Of course it could work out and it could be a stroke of genius. But if you gamble long and often enough your eventually lose. Cortese has made a huge gamble here, he has traded stability, positivity, togetherness and a team playing well for an unknown quantity. If it goes balls up then the view he knows what he is doing and is a good businessman will well and truley be gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 Bet he won't even show up at the Everton game. Jellyfish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armitage Shanks Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 This isn't about whether it is fair or not. On the face of it, it's just a bad business decision. Plain and simple. But only time will tell if my statement is correct but the odds are not in favour of Cortese having made the correct decision. Sadly, this is football today and I guess as fans we either accept it or stop supporting the game we all love. The game is full of egotistical fools with no regard to decency or the common fan. This also includes many of the players as well as the executives running the clubs. The whole sport is cancer ridden from top to bottom. But it is only a game. And we'll all be back on Monday or shortly thereafter cheering on the club we love. Nigel will find himself a new club and be very successful. I have no doubt. He deserves it and one day, mark my words, he will manage our country. Thanks Nigel for two and half very special years. We will not forget what you gave us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colehillsaint Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 "An idiot" who helped save the club from oblivion or years in the lower leagues and instead guided the club to the Premier League 3 years after taking charge. Why do people forget how often ego driven football chairmen completely loose the plot after some success? It's not even as though it hasn't happened to us. Can someone explain this to me please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolan Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 Why do people forget how often ego driven football chairmen completely loose the plot after some success? It's not even as though it hasn't happened to us. Can someone explain this to me please? Why do people forget how often fans completely lose the plot after 'change'? It's not even as though it hasn't happened to us. Can someone explain this to me please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le Tissier Posted 18 January, 2013 Author Share Posted 18 January, 2013 I think it's been brewing for a while. This is just the icing on the cake. People can only support someone and see the good in someone for so long. YOU CAN'T POLISH A TURD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colehillsaint Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 Why do people forget how often fans completely lose the plot after 'change'? It's not even as though it hasn't happened to us. Can someone explain this to me please? Well the change on this occasion makes very little rational sense. Saying that NC is not an idiot is not an answer is it? I am pointing out that football history is absolutely littered with intelligent men that have let their ego obscure their judgement, and fans that have stopped asking questions after a bit of success. I genuinely don't get that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matty's Caddy Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 I think it's been brewing for a while. This is just the icing on the cake. People can only support someone and see the good in someone for so long. YOU CAN'T POLISH A TURD What a bed wetter. Get over it and give the new guy a chance We all loved what Nigel achieved but he was hardly pep guardiola Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manji Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 No, I say it because without him we wouldn't be in the Premier League wondering why we sacked a manager. We'd either not exist or still be in the lower leagues. People were like this when Pardew was sacked, Cortese's plan worked then, why rule it out working again so quickly? People were saying the same when Pardew was sacked, maybe a little less mawkishness though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katalinic Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 The club would have been saved. Who by and on what evidence? I hear this trotted out from time from time but with little evidence to the contrary - people have short memories - we were in deep **** and anyone that says anything else is deluded. Do you think if we had been taken over at the last minute by the local candlestickmaker we would be in the Premier League? No, and people would be moaning about that. Football these days is a business and rightly or wrongly Cortese has made a business decision - only time will tell if it was correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manji Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 Calling Cortese names is just retarded. Lets just simplify it for you bed wetters out there. Adkins did a superb job getting us to the Premier but was clearly out of his depth.If you dont believe just go back over the results this season. We have lost and drawn from winning positions. Not to mention a couple of appalling matches Wigan, Sunderland. Some outright peculiar substitutions. The faffing around with the goalkeeper situation and so on. Not to mention the amount of money Adkins was given to spend and still we are only a few points above an absolute ****e Reading. Cortese was absolutely right to make the decision. The fans reaction has verged on a Diana like form of mass hysteria. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le Tissier Posted 18 January, 2013 Author Share Posted 18 January, 2013 What a bed wetter. Get over it and give the new guy a chance We all loved what Nigel achieved but he was hardly pep guardiola Just for the record I was referring to the outburst at Cortese that has been brewing for a while. For the record pep guardiola is a household name for what he achieved at Barcelona. I think even you could manage Barcelona and be a success. I wonder how pep would do managing an average club with average players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golac's Cunning Stunts Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 The fact of the matter is there is a lot of fans that don't know things that have gone on etc etc bla bla. That's not there fault so rightly so they stand by Cortese. But in the past there has been the same posters trying to put posts across of what he's like and what he has done bla bla. But most tend to abuse people for trying to put across what he is actually like . I'll be the first to admit I'm pretty **** at putting my opinion across, give me a hammer and a saw I'm ok. I'm just not the best at putting across my point. But the long and short of it is I've never liked the man. As I've always said all will come out in the end and slowly but surly it is. You will not find any ex player who will have a good word to say about him, fact is they have left and they can now voice there opinon. Thats easy to dismiss it and say they are bitter, however you will also struggle to find any current player or employee to have a good word to say about him, but you won't hear about that from afar as its more than their jobs worth. All I want is the same as all of you which is the best for the club I love. Don't give the moron the satisfaction of a protest as he will thrive of that being the attention seeking sociopath he is, We need to get behind the team and stick together. I'm personally even going to give gully and Boruc a break for a few weeks and hope they prove me wrong with a new lease of life. If they don't ill be on there case again. I think the sacking of Nigel is disgraceful. However, your views on Cortese are entirely subjective. Your opinion is formed by hearsay and second hand knowledge. You have no direct knowledge of anything yourself. Therefore it is no better than idle gossip really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golac's Cunning Stunts Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 Just for the record I was referring to the outburst at Cortese that has been brewing for a while. For the record pep guardiola is a household name for what he achieved at Barcelona. I think even you could manage Barcelona and be a success. I wonder how pep would do managing an average club with average players. To be fair, a lot better than Matty's Caddy and I'm sure he'd be the first to admit that :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golac's Cunning Stunts Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 I think it's been brewing for a while. This is just the icing on the cake. People can only support someone and see the good in someone for so long. YOU CAN'T POLISH A TURD Make a turd look like it comes from Poland? Or do you mean pollish? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 Nabil Hassan now reporting on twitter that Adkins found out he'd been sacked when he saw it on tv. What are the thoughts from the Cortese worshipers on that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anothersaintinsouthsea Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 Calling Cortese names is just retarded. Lets just simplify it for you bed wetters out there. Adkins did a superb job getting us to the Premier but was clearly out of his depth.If you dont believe just go back over the results this season. We have lost and drawn from winning positions. Not to mention a couple of appalling matches Wigan, Sunderland. Some outright peculiar substitutions. The faffing around with the goalkeeper situation and so on. Not to mention the amount of money Adkins was given to spend and still we are only a few points above an absolute ****e Reading. Cortese was absolutely right to make the decision. The fans reaction has verged on a Diana like form of mass hysteria. Posts like this will dredged up if we end up getting relegated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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